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jay bee: Yes oh
Sagagenius Sagasexy Sagalicious Omnisaga
Make una bow kia kia

You forgot Sagacity, Saga Saga, Saga-hit-it!

byne: y are nigerians insulting their own father's land.. They have forgotten they are the chosen ones, the future of the country. If we all keep abusing this country what will our children say about the country? Though it's funny & Its a shame as well. Pls change ur mind set about this country.

How is stating the facts an insult?

You have been trained by useless rulers to not face facts and sweep things under the carpet and tolerate the rot?

stanlolo85: but still some of d bulbs are nt working, did,t you see them? Or ar u blind

Which bulbs were not working?

iragbijile: Sagamite is not the future of Nigeria, not anywhere close. His best days are way behind him, and he is still in his late 20s. He was never in it anyways.

Cretin is this all you hard to say? Are you really that dumb?

[quote author=$tunna]Applying for the chance to host The Olympics is like inviting the world over for a play and not getting it is same as , nope (from the world...we dont like you, dont trust you and most importantly we dont respect you people![/quote]How?

Why do people make moronic statements?

I just don't understand!

wellmax: Team Nigeria was in London for #ONLYPICS

I am so happy.

If they had got just one medal, then you will see my nation's brigade of moorons self-consoling and saying "We try now! At least we got one, unlike Gabon". And we go on as ususal like if nothing happened.

Now that we did not get shyt, I hope there are sackings because our cretinous rulers only act when we are humiliated internationally.

Ishilove: o really? Enlighten me

Come off it, it is not you.

I just caught a glimpse at the London 2012 Closing Ceremony of the failure, Frankie Fredericks, sitting in the VIP section.

Bloody useless failure.

This pageant white girl is making me consider going to Rio o!

Nigeria can never pull this off.

I was watching and thinking if this was Nigeria, some of the bulbs used for the light effects will not be working.

It will be a full mess made of lack of ingenuity, corruption, below-mediocre mentality and utter incompetence.

dare2think: Shussh!

Don't let cap28 see this ohh!

The anti-west theorist will have a fit!

How dare you be proud of the white man's country!

iragbijile: ^^^

You must be quite a charmer in real life, arent ya?

Too many posts, too little sense, zero likes. You should be ashamed of yourself Sagamumu.

Cretin!

God, I am so proud of this country, men!

Financial lesson.

bosun11: @berem take it easy na.at least 1 of dem is married now..God knows am damn tall..at least over 6inches.and 4ft tall...and also good-looking..smiles..#babaGodNoni..

There is hardly any way you will be above 6ft 2 and will not know your exact height.

I have never seen it before. You would have some point been measured for being exceptionally tall.

Ishilove: Yes.

That is not you.

BlackPikiN: I am 5'9 with a wonderful athletic body to match..
I take on any girl anytime whether taller or shorter than me. I dey knack them.

One thing about all these girls saying shorter men are bla blah is that you will eventually go out with someone ur height or slightly shorter than you.

I have two friends who are only 5'8 but their chicks are 5'10 and I am very sure say dem swear say them no go follow people wey dey tall pass.

So to you, most women date men of equal height or shorter than them?

Really?

So there are a lot of tall men who are left single then because men are, since the last time I checked, taller than women on average?

BlackPikiN: Guy u dey short!!!

1.66m na appro 5'5".

Hmm!

So what do you think is the average height in Nigeria?

What do you think is the average height in the world?

stillwater: @Sagamite
I'm not against marriage. In fact I would cherish companionship from that one person. My mum's parents died so early, and she tells us it's the little values she learned from her mum, that is what she carried to her own marriage. Nobody sat her down to say 'ehn these are the basics on marriage or we are training you for marriage'. My parents trained me to be a well grounded human being that wherever I find myself I would be able to handle the situation. This is not to say she wont lecture me when I'm getting married.

Those hints are too strong men. Calm down, woman.

Ah, ha! You want all these to yourself?

Greedy!

It is not only you that wants Saga Saga. It is a scarce international market product.

iragbijile: Okay okay okay! Sagamumu, you are intelligent. In fact, you are fabulous paapaa. You want me to validate you, okay, I will. You are phocking intelligent. Now, you go out there and act like one intelligent mo'afucker, instead of acting like a coward here online. Dont allow those biatches in real life London to tell you you are a nobody. You are from Sagamu, the land of infinite untarred roads; of mud houses with thatched roofs; of unpainted homes; of corrupt politicians; of OPC; of babalawos and mamalawos; of substandard secondary schools and universities. Sagamumu if you know what you are worth prove it in real life, but be ready to take the hits though because in real life there is no Google and no spell checker.

Keep on working hard to annoy me!

Come on, cretin! You can do it.

In Sagamu, we have CEMENT/LIMESTONE! What do you have in your village? Oloshi.

Kobojunkie: I did not say to teach kids marriage . . you cannot do that because again, there are no one-solution-for-all when it comes to marriage/relationship etc. And teaching kids [b]ABOUT [/b]marriage is not the same as teaching kids marriage.

Kids are not all dumb . . when they see their mum and dad live and sleep together, and that they are referred to as husband and wife, they kind of figure out that is probably a bit of what marriage is about.

Oh, really?

As in, really?

So there is one-solution-for-all when it comes to life?

Sho mi-e the la-i-ty o, Kobo!

Show me that one solution, jowor!

When my babalawo in Sagamu wanted to sell me that solution, I said No because I thought he just wanted to milk extra money from me. I did not know it was real.

Kobojunkie: How do I da e lowun when I have no idea where you are taking the discussion?

Easy questions!

If you can understand me when I said this:

https://www.nairaland.com/1012348/parents-how-teach-daughters-self-esteem/6#11772431

You can understand this:


Really?

Now we are for teaching kids marriage?

So when I said girls should be taught about marriage and also boys should too, I was fcking right and demonstrating fabulous intellect?

Now, lets move to the second part. Explain to me, what proportion of people are intelligent enough about life and know about life to be able to teach their kids?

Answer the questions.

I keep on saying it. I keep on telling people.

Mo ma n so fun yin pe logic flow ninu veins me. E fe gba gbo. Lojo Sunday! Ojo Oluwa!

(I keep telling you people logic flows in my veins. You refuse to believe. On a Sunday! The day of the Lord!)

Kobo da mi lowun! (Answer me)

Kobojunkie: No one said don't teach your kids ABOUT Marriage. In most cases, you don't need to because you are teaching them ABOUT even without knowing it, in the way you handle yours.

Oh!

Really?

Now we are for teaching kids marriage?

So when I said girls should be taught about marriage and also boys should too, I was fcking right and demonstrating fabulous intellect?

Now, lets move to the second part. Explain to me, what proportion of people are intelligent enough about life and know about life to be able to teach their kids?

[quote author=Miss_Ife]I got that from your answer. Despite the fact that I live in the west, I am still amazed at the number of girls who are "trained for marriage" to an extent that they cannot picture any other ambition for their lives. Little girls are praised for taking care of their dolls and being peaceful (i.e. quiet) while little boys are encouraged to take risks and play rough. You go to a park and see parents let their boys climb everywhere without worrying much, but when the younger sister tries the same thing they call her back "baby, you're gonna hurt yourself, come and play house".
What I mean is that, even though I wouldn't compare the condition of women in the north of nigeria with those of their counterparts in the west, there is still a long way to go to get rid of this traditional "training for marriage" thing.[/quote]I will caution you about the example you gave.

Even though I am die hard advocate of freedom of choice for EVERYONE.

If you go through my historical posts, you will I have always advocated women should be free to make a choice about their lives.

If she wants to face her career and leave house work to the husband, I am all for her freedom to do that.

I just want my own freedom to say she is not the one for me too. Because awa Alpha Male ni wa (I am an Alpha Male)!

I love facts, reality and objectivity with a sick passion.

Now in the example you gave, if both the boy and girl fall and scar their faces, who do you think would lose out more in future.

Lets face the realities of life sometimes and manage things with sensibility not emotions.

I get your logic but I think that example was not apt!

Kobojunkie: So, in your mind, teaching all girls, and boys, equally, critical thinking skills, instilling common sense ideals in to them is not a way of improving on anything?

You said people should not teach their kids about marriage because it does not work?

Is that an improvement process in the Koboizen-Zero Sigma masterclass?

Kobojunkie: um . . I didn't make such a claim.

Of course many of the mother's training their kids for marriage are themselves not in great marriages -- many of them are abandoned mothers, others in bad relationships, and some think they have the greatest marriage ever.

What do you mean you did not make such a claim?

You said people should train their kids for life but should not train them for marriage.

So you assumed people know and are successful in life and can teach it, while on the other hand you assumed people do not know and are not successful in marriage so cannot teach it and should not bother.

Those are useless asssumptions aint they?

Kobojunkie: OK, there we agree.

It's just that I think a lot of us know what this "training for marriage" thing is. I mean you go to, say a village in the Eastern/Northern Part of the country for instance(anyone who takes this as an ethnic attack is a class A mor0n) and you find cases of girls being trained and talk to of how what they do wrong as kids, or do not get right as children, will affect their marriages. In the north, girls are almost often groomed for marriage. When you try to engage them, they don't seem to function outside of that mindset.

So your logic is that because training of marriage is poor, you would rather abandon it completely than improve it?

Is that some Koboizen-Zero Sigma process I have never heard of.

Kobojunkie: um . . . I can't because I have no clue what you are on about.

You claim people cannot teach about marriage and relationship because they don't know it themselves.

So you are saying there are no people that know about marriage and relationships in this world?

Is that not delusion?

Kobojunkie: incompetence? "THEY ARE DOOMED"? "It is an abyss"?

um . . . . please remember to leave your delusions at the door.

I have no clue where you are in this or how to help get you back to the discussion.

Answer my gaddamn questions.

You did not think before you spoke?

Spoke to a friend of mine in the North recently.

He met a man that is the headmaster of a secondary school up there, who said proudly he has 3 wives and 27 children.

When one female teacher asked him how he manages to care for them and raise them as responsible people, he said "that is in the hand of God".

Those are the people teaching Nigerian kids.

Kobojunkie: What magic? Training your child in something you probably don't even have a good handle on in your case, is far more critical than training your child on common sense ways to handle all things as they come?

Again . . .

So the argument is no more about the impossibility, it is about incompetence?

So there are no people successful in marriages and relationships and understand it? That is what you are saying.

So if no one can understand it and train it, then the kids will never be able to understand it too then. THEY ARE DOOMED!

It is best in your "life training" then to tell them to avoid relationships and marriage, it is the abyss.

Kobojunkie: um . . . Life in general, you can offer advice for. Training a child for life implies getting them ready to better handle the many bricks that life throws at most everyone of us.For instance, training a child on anger management, helps at least equip that kid with skills that help them better handle situations where they find themselves loosing it because of what something or something has done. It is easier to apply common sense solutions when it comes to training kids for life. However relationships are a more complex "sub-section" - it is hard to find a template/one-size-fits-all solution for. To this day, there are no templates on how to handle many of the issues that arise in relationships. That is why in this day and age, people are more and more encouraged to go seek out help from counselors, pastors, etc. Because no matter how much training you get, no matter how much common sense you know of, when you add a second human being to the equation, the situation becomes even more unpredictable, and complex.
That is why many parents focus at least training/instilling values that equip their kids with healthy self-esteem so that whatever life/relationship throws at them in the end, they(the kids themselves) are better able to handle it(not fall apart), and make right decisions for.

Really?

So you can do all these magic for life but it cannot be done for marriage and relationships.

Marriage and relationships are not part of life?

Marriage and relationships are less complex than life in general?

And life is ONE human being?

So you would train YOUR child on life but leave out the most critical and, according to you, complex part of it out and tell them "Figure it out yourself jor".

What can I say. "Amazing"!

Kobojunkie: There is nothing sensible about asking that boys be equally trained for marriage because there is no proof that the so-called training that women get, even works, both here in the developed world and in the non-developed world. And are you suggesting that the "trained for marriage" women are winning, today? Please show me cause I don't see where that is happening. I know of a couple of "trained for marriage" women who are abandoned wives.

I would rather we raised HEALTHY ADULTS, both male and female, and should they get into relationships, they are equipped to handle the day to day surprises that await them. Not trained monkeys who EXPECT things to go one way and when it doesn't they either panic or make decisions that at the end of the day learn to bigger problems for themselves and maybe for society. I don't think you can FAIL when you raise a child with a healthy self-esteem, ready to tackle whatever life throws at em.

What the heck is a real man now?

Really?

So you think you can train people for life but you can't train them for a sub-section of it (marriage and relationships).

Really?

You want to waste my time with illogical and emotional arguments?

andromida: Because when it fails both side lose but guess which one tends to lose more

Actually its the society that loses more. Increase in broken homes,children out of wedlock etc etc
Its not a war of the sexes.

Yes society loses. But have you ever wondered why it ends up being called a man's world?

You are free to deny facts if you want, but it will still be facts.

andromida: Sit there and keep on hoping men should want companionship and marriage like you want it.

The reality is there are many men who want marriage and companionship too.

Yep. But, by and large they are normally, the less attractive options to most women until the women pass their prime and want to settle down.

Research (I saw some years ago on TV) shows an ideal scenario for women is to be boned by the bad boy (dashing and mysterious looking men) while the good guy is the one they prefer to raise the child with. Hence their choices of partners (attraction to potential partners) changes depending on the time of the month. Anecdoctally, this is reflected in instictive choices of women when they are young (with biological time in hand) and have choices. From the docu implication is when women are pre-ovulation, they are more likely to give number to harder looking men. Post-ovulation, softer looking guys are likely to be more attractive and have a chance.

Women call themselves complex. I agree, I accept that fact and I manage it as best as possible to Saga Saga's advantage and privilege. I can't change them. Mi o lagbara e (I no get the power). All I do in life is to try and get as much relevant information about complex things so I can make an informed decision, not wishful thinking one.