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Ajibam: op..You can try to shy away from it, but christianity along with the aforementioned two are Abrahamic religions. Maybe you should do your research on it. |
macof: Guys don't get it wrongSeriously, their action begs the question if God/Allah ever said such things. |
Oduduwaboy: Dear sakaguchi, i congratulate you for finally employing your innate ability to reason and applying logic . See , religion is a joke & the greatest fraud of all time; especially the middle eastern religions. |
Paul Runner? ![]() Fake list. Let me not even start with the Sunday Mba mystery. |
harbiola1: @OP, i've given u a better condition which u seem to have ignored only to be displaying ignorance.You gave a better condition and I did exactly what you asked. Let me quote what you said. harbiola1: Can you bring those verses one by one and let's discuss about it together.I have done exactly what you asked. I brought the verses one by one. I brought out my argument on why it is provocative. You fail to give your defence. What could have made you to reconsider your earlier position? ![]() In my mind it is self defence because of a little presentable knowledge i've about it. and to u it is nothing but a war mongering on innocent people.And e given you ample evidence to show it isn't self defence. Either way, I don't know how choping the hands and heads of fleeing people and ambushing them is self defence. Self defence or not, it is completely brutal. Mahatma Gandhi would have made a better judgement in this instance. There are better ways of self defence than choping off the head and hands of hapless people who have been armbushed and are fleeing. ![]() |
nnady chuks: Keep quiet all of you, afterall you all were not there... Just mind your business before amadi ohia blast you all ![]() |
castielo: Ok, so what's your purpose of asking diz question? when u finally get the 'answer' you want what's gonna happen next? ..And the question still persist. Struggling Christians and Muslims have doubts and questions that need answers, why not be of great service to tell us why Yahweh asked for the genocide of a whole nation. 1 Samuel 15:2-3, "This is what the LORD Almighty says: Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" |
Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight" Did you see that? ^^^^ Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, according to this passage, I don't see how lying in wait and ambushing unbelievers turn out to be self defence. This is clearly a form of military offensive. But then, offensive or defensive, this brutal and graphic condoning of violence is ill-assorted with the notion of a loving Allah. This is classic brutality. Mahatma Gandhi would have done a better job here. |
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy who is clearly under pain really an act of self- defense? ![]() |
The only offence this people committed was not believing in a new religion. They did not fight the people whom this verse below addresses Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." It is a perfectly normal thing for people to have objection to new changes in things. Allah s.a.w who is all-knowing of this fact still asked for the head of people who he himself lovingly created ![]() |
harbiola1: Can you bring those verses one by one and let's discuss about it together.Quran (2:191-193) This passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). |
harbiola1: Can you bring those verses one by one and let's discuss about it together.I will do that. You'll see, but then, either ways, provocative or not, those quranic verses does not show the feature of a loving God. |
There are other tons of old testament and quranic verses where God/Allah acted worst than Hitler. The big question is... "WHY?" |
Those who refuse to take part in the fighting will be discriminated on... Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain. Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." |
Deuteronomy 20 contains Yahweh's instructions about war. If a city does not accept Israel's offer of peace and open its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" (verse13). With regard to other cities, the command is (verse 16), "Do not leave anything that breathes." You probably also recall that the walls of Jericho came tumbling down, and then the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys" (Joshua 6:21). This certainly seems brutal and vindictive, doesn't it? Or consider Joshua 11:20, "For it was the Lord himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the Lord had commanded Moses." From our twenty-first century point of view, we ask, "What good was accomplished by all this annihilation?" Is this the same loving God preached in the new testament? |
sakaguchi: The Quran:The above clearly show instances that are provocative and not in any way a form of self defence. |
The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong- doers, etc.)" Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…" Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." |
Let's look at Moses and Joshua, they went around wreaking havoc on towns and innocent people to get what they wanted. Look what Joshua did to Jericho....he didn't even want the land, but he killed all of the men, women, and children...then on top of that, he burned the place to the ground, for no reason at all. I really don't wanna feel like the last 23 years of my life have been dedicated to some1 who orders and condones the killing of innocent children. I wouldn't praise Hitler, but somehow I feel like I am. I love God, and I wanna continue to love God...I like having something to believe in, a divine power, I like waking up everyday knowing some1 is watching over me....but i'm sure the citizens of Jericho felt that way too....but look what happened to them. |
This is an appeal to the mods, I do not intend to cast a slur on any religious group, I am religious and find knowing God a fulfilling virtue. I came to a point in my life where I started questioning religions and beliefs to see the veracity in it. I looked into Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism and so on. Let me give my take on the Abrahamic religions ( Islam, Christianity and Judaism) For instance, Allah told muslims through prophet Mohammed s.a.w to chop off the heads and fingers of infidels wherever they are hiding. He even called muslims who refuse to join the free for all slaughters as hypocrites and that they will be sent to hell for not slaying the infidels. Yahweh in the old testament told Moses that if any people fail to accept Israel's offer of peace, then the Lord has put them in their hands, all males are to be killed. Sometimes the carnage is even worse. I don't want to make the post long but Allah's and Jehovah's way seems brutal. Why is Hitler considered evil if God/Allah has ordered people to do such before. Trust me, I know Nigerians, always scared of asking barefaced question, we'll rather put on religious regalia and shy away from the germane questions raised. |
This is a shame on nairaland. 2 contrasting topics? WTF |
Why should I do midnight calls when MB's are dashed out everyday. I mean, with BBM, whatsapp, facebook, viber, 5kobo per second glo Gbam. Abeg, wetin go make me still call in d night. Na winch we be ni? Glo call centre go dey cut our calls every 10 10 minutes sef !!! |
On a serious note, we are doing ourselves great disservice in trying to phatom out the best from these duo. Why? Is their not enough room for several Africans to stand as best in the podium of history. I really don't know much about Nkrumah, my apologies but the little I know about him shows him to be a great leader albeit his not so pleasant end. Secondly, the argument of the greatest african with these 2 as contenders would never surface in Tunisia, Morocco or Libya. Let's call africa the black world. If that is true, then I will give the greatest africans to be : W. E. B Du Bois Nnamdi Azikwe Desmond Tutu Ahmadu Bello Nelson Mandela Kwame Nkrumah Obafemi Awolowo Robert Mugabe Kamuzu Banda Malcolm X Martin Luther King And all the the champions of the black race who paid the ultimate price for the struggle. N.B this list is in no particular order. |
I don't blame them, they are drunk on Alomo. |
Yes you did, this story looks more fake compared to the previous fake story. |
Like it or not, this girl did you a huge favour. She told you she is in another relationship, a lot of them would have kept mute, give you an aye and then you'll find out some other "schoolboy" is digging her. My advice. She doesn't love you, that's why your presence isn't strong enough to dissuade her from school paroles. Even if she loved you, she may still her school paroles (its called cheating but many 9ja girls don't view it that way) but from what you wrote, her doesn't evince any form of love to you safe platonic. Do the easy thing now bro! Move on. The pain now is better than having a wife who doesn't love you and cheats on you. The girl may/mayn't break-up with her current boyfriend, that is not a plus for you whatsoever, she may leave him and go for another. Bro, do the easy thing, the right thing, the best thing...#move on. This advice is however easier given than practised. |
chukxie: Cat /kæt/The fish seller was confused because he doesn't know the difference between cut and cat. |
django1: I have one question though, how do these Ghanaians usually locate anything to do with Ghana on nairaland with a speed of light?Because they are jobless. |
