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Namzy:
You should have quoted to confirm

Abi o, @Valto na you talk am first. I thought it was my own OCD acting overtime every time i see his posts.

androsurf:
The price is #235k for the 3.3kva, and I've gotten it today as I was made aware that the price will be going up soon anytime from tomorrow.

thanks for the recommendation... @ samir101ng

Your welcome .

Glad to hear it worked out. You can add a wifi dongle to the inverter for remote monitoring & communication later as an upgrade.

Try and get those Yingli panels from their office since its been confirmed to be in stock. You won't regret it. Hope you get a very good 100A BMS for your LifeP04 batteries. Don't forget to use rated breakers and surge protection in the install of your inverter. Also, let it be properly grounded and connected to your earth system to avoid surge/lightning strikes that can damage your system.

idsolar:
Goodmorning family. Pls Myhome solar pump 2hp installed showing error code E.pan. d panel volt is >200V within limit of 350v. Pls what's d medicine

I am not a solar pump specialist but for a more detailed feedback you need to furnish more information on the brand & model of your solar pump. And a more detailed error code. You can snap the error code and spec sheet on the side of the pump. Also, you can google the error code.

haslaw:
Good evening gurus,

Please does anyone have or know where I can get any good 80A MPPT or 100A MPPT Charge Controller.

My location is Kaduna and Abuja

You can order an SRNE Charge Controller from their authorized dealer in Lagos. Comes with warranty and can be way billed to you in Abuja.

https://www.srnesolar.com/product-category/solar-charge-controller/mppt-ssystem

HM Solar Co Ltd
10b Prince Jude Nwabueze Street, Greenfield Estate,
Ago Palace Way, Isolo, Lagos, Nigeria
Olive Estate, Alhaji Ganiyu Olaiya Street, off navy gate
Satellite Town, Lagos
+2348034490636
+2347040329474
+2349050884061
hmsolarcoltd@gmail.com

isangjohnson:
Can Morningstar Mppt CC charge lifepo4 battery?
I couldn't just find the lithium as other battery chemistries were clearly stated in the manual... Do I have to go through custom settings?

Yes, Morning Star CC can charge LifeP04 batteries.

https://www.morningstarcorp.com/lithium-batteries/

Kindly check out the above link for more info. Dem Oga Niyi & GeorgeD1 can aid you further in programming your CC.

Which model of Morning Star CC do you have ?

androsurf:
Thank you boss, I'm planning to setup a 24v system with the batteries, so I know I will need to buy a new 24v inverter. The problem is that I don't know which brand of inverter to buy yet that is not too expensive but reliable (the Microtek I bought developed fault within 6 months of usage) and the capacity that's ideal for my setup... Also whether to buy inverter first or be buying panels one by one.

Might I add that I currently have #200k to invest this month towards the project, so I want to invest it wisely... Thank you

I will recommend you get a 24v 3.5kva SRNE Hybrid inverter with a built-in MPPT (150v). A 3.5kva should be able to handle all your current & future loads (deep freezer) and with a built-in MPPT saves you the cost of buying a separate charge controller. SRNE is also a good brand with an authorized dealer in Lagos for your warranty issues. But dollar prices are going up so you may need to adjust your budget a little. Contact Mr Ugo below for a quote. For solar panels, i recommend you get Yingli solar panels from their dealer in Lagos. A 380W or 450W panel should be okay for your setup (8 pieces). Yingli solar panels are budget friendly and far more reliable than those nameless chinese panels that are flooding the market.

https://www.srnesolar.com/

HM Solar Co Ltd
10b Prince Jude Nwabueze Street, Greenfield Estate,
Ago Palace Way, Isolo, Lagos, Nigeria
Olive Estate, Alhaji Ganiyu Olaiya Street, off navy gate
Satellite Town, Lagos
+2348034490636
+2347040329474
+2349050884061
hmsolarcoltd@gmail.com

Penuelseun:
I mean that it is better to buy and assemble the parts yourself or contact someone who does. You can read through the thread a few pages back to get a grasp of what I mean

Let's not be too quick to recommend the DIY approach especially for novices who are not comfortable tinkering by themselves and might prefer to just purchase a ready solution. However, if budget is a big issue for you then the DIY approach "can" save you some costs but you will bear responsibility for how good your install is. A simple 12v 800w solar setup can also suffice for your setup. LifeP04 batteries are going to be the major cost for you. You can get a 12v tubular battery at affordable prices since your loads are not major.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
I strongly believe you had a 24v nominal system at this time? This would mean relatively high amps passing through the CC - any amps above the CC's clamp current rating and the battery disconnects for any reason (operator error, el cheapo breaker randomly tripping under load) the CC goes kaput immediately.

Truly the Morningstars are designed for industrial situations with heavy duty DC breakers that will not nuisance trip - someone here suggested a work around - use of a double pole breaker where you pass positive PV through one pole and positive battery through the other - if the breaker ever trips, both PV and CC disconnect together, a second breaker can be used for the actual PV disconnect.

Another way is to use a DC contactor (such as used for BMS ) with the contactor coil powered off battery voltage whereas the PV passes through the contactor's main contacts (common and Normally Open) any loss of battery immediately disconnects the PV too.

Finally I think MorningStar made firmware updates to help this problem - by now they may have upgraded their component spec to deal with such an issue.

https://community.morningstarcorp.com/solar-charge-controllers/post/high-voltage-disconnect-hvd-and-battery-management-system-bms-LE9tzamr9tZKuob

Here's a link to a community post on their forums on the topic. There's a good comment there regarding lead acid batteries. I have found out that a lot of times following the instructions regarding the specs of a product saves a lot of headaches in the long run. That and proper installation according to those specs is key to getting your product to last long. Morning Stars have a high tolerance but even they are not bullet proof if not used correctly or installed.

Sapiosexuality:
Wow! This is detailed.

I am copying all the advice here to my Notepad.

1.
Two decent 12v 200ah batteries (Quanta, Ritar etc) and wire them in series for a 24v 200ah system.

2.
Two (2) 450W Yingli Solar Panels in series for this.

3.
A good 60amps MPPT (Powmr) should do the job.

4.
For inverter a 12v 1.5kva since you are on a budget but you can do 24v 2000w also.


Before I start working on the four points above, I just want to ask:

1. Where's the best place to buy them? Just want to make sure I'm not getting fake products.

2. For the Quanta or Rita batteries does language matter? I see some as Pure Sine wave, etc., is any 12v 200ah battery okay for this?

3. For the Yingli solar panels, does it matter if it is monocrystalline or polycrystalline?

4. What about the cables for connection? Any specific brand?

To make sure I don't make mistake since I'm buying and doing it myself.

Thank you.

1. Personally, i like buying my stuff online directly. AliExpress is a good online marketplace that ship your items directly to the nearest post office in your area. If your lucky, they might use Speedaf couriers for faster delivery. However, you can search on Jumia & Kongo for the brand name of Suoer for the inverter range i shared with you. I saw some sellers selling it there- during a recent search. Too many fakes in the nigerian market. You can buy an inverter and mppt direct from there but you will have to pay with a dollar card at black market rates. You also run the risk of being asked to pay duty on those items by NIPOST. But even at that, i prefer that unless i have a decent alternative. Oga Valto has a decent range of inverters he sells. Oga Odimbandi sells Powmr charge controller also.

2. Your budget will decide a lot of things and is a big variable in the type of things you can buy. Personally, i recommend a 24v system which is two 12v batteries in series. Now for the batteries, dem plenty for market with different characteristics. But though more expensive i prefer AGM batteries which are sealed and maintenance free even though GEL/tubular batteries can also do the job but my problem is they vent gas and so you don't install them indoors. Quanta & Ritar are the name brands of two AGM battery manufacturers. Luminous & Eastmann also manufacture and sell GEL/tubular batteries. If you want to do LifeP04, unless you want to DIY your better off buying a coupled system from someone. Again , check Valto's post and other sellers on the options they have. But do your own due diligence also.

3. The 450W Yingli panels are monocrystaline and budget friendly compared to other brands. Buying cheap chinese knock off panels will not give you decent yields from your solar setup. As suggested by Oga Valto, you might need to increase the panels to 4 if your going for a 24v system.

4. I am not an installer so i can't comment on the type or brand of cable you need. But just make sure that the correct size of wire is used and that it is original copper that's used.

Sapiosexuality:
Guys, say I'm trying to do a 24hr solar source for about 600W or 1000w, would that be possible with a budget of 350k?

The total load is actually about 515 but I'm trying to raise it to 600 or 1000w (depending on cost). Is the budget enough for 600w and 24hr? If not, what can I can with that budget? Thanks.

So, we need to break it down for us to understand your requirements better.

Four main factors are at play here:

1. The loads you intend to power
2. How many hours you need to power that load
3. Solar panels size
4. Inverter size to power those loads.

1. You need to an energy audit of your loads. We can't stop repeating our self on this matter. Check the power requirements of your load by listing all the appliances you need to power and the power they consume. You can check on the power supply of the appliances to see their ratings.

2. So, this where it gets tricky. In an ideal situation, your solar panels should be producing enough power for your load and have some left over to charge your batteries. So, lets say from 9am to 5pm your solar panel should be powering your device (8hrs). That leaves you to power the device with battery from 5pm to 9am (16hrs). So, taking an example of 600w, assuming the power stays the same, you need to power 600w for 16 hours so you need to get a battery capacity for that. So power required = 600W. No. of hours = 16h. Total Power (Energy) = 600W x 16h = 9600Wh. Now, if your going for lead acid battery you can only use 50% depth of discharge so you will need a battery with high ah so that you can discharge the capacity you need from it without damaging the battery. You have a choice of a three choices here.
a. Buy two 6v batteries, wire them in series to make 12v
b. Buy one 12v 200ah battery either gel, AGM
c. Buy two 12v 200ah battery to make a 24v system.
I advise you get two decent 12v 200ah batteries (Quanta, Ritar etc) and wire them in series for a 24v 200ah system. LifeP04 is out of range of your budget. Good luck with that

3. So, for solar panel size, you need a panel that will power the 600w load for those 8hrs and charge the battery for later use (16hrs). i will recommend two (2) 450W Yingli Solar Panels in series for this. A good 60amps MPPT (Powmr) should do the job. Because of heat, shading and inclination of the solar panels you might not hit the rated nameplates of the panels but its a good over sizing.

4. so, for inverter i recommend a 12v 1.5kva since you are on a budget but you can do 24v 2000w also. While there are several Chinese clones littering the market with cheap internal components, i advise you get a decent brand to last you long. I have attached a decent Suoer Brand that ship direct to Nigeria from AliExpress.

So, this is my humble attempt at an analysis. Your budget is very tight though you may need to look at that battery capacity you need to power items for so long. Good luck

EPOMA:
Has anyone looked into the Hyundai shingled panels
I am so impressed with them , The 400w produces over 460watts . I am trying to get them

Hyundai Perc Shingled Solar Module - 400w

I place Hyundai in the same category of products from manufacturers like LG, Sunpower, Panasonic, REC.

Premium solar panels with high efficiency but at a COST. Do they even have a reseller here in Nigeria ? I believe you will have to import them directly per crate which will come at another premium. For now sha, my top 2 panels in Nigeria Jinko Solar (Palette) and Trina Solar (solarpoweretal) who both have authrorised dealers in the country and sell panels above 500W in capacity. They are also both rater Tier 1 with high efficiencies above the 21% range.

FEGEITOK:
In other words they were Industrial Control Systems (ICS) compliant way way back.

To be honest with you. I am beginning to realize that taking some time to understand the market before investing is paying off. I know the power of Modbus and this is capability is important to me.

The way it is going, I might end up not getting the Schneider.

Hehehe E dey enter your eye abi. Morning Star dey chook your eye abi. @Zeestone1 we have a propective convert o !

I faced this same issue early in my research. Morning Star has now added all the other bells and whistles you might need to their refreshed charge controller lines and now have expanded their inverter range. My only issue with their inverter range is the lack of a 5kva 48v product. Their 48v inverter range tops out at 2.5kva which is a little too small for my energy needs. The Solax X1 G4 Hybrid inverter is topping my list right now. And a Morning Star setup of inverter and charge controller is going to be too expensive in my opinion for the 2.5kva inverter power you will be getting. Of course the GenStar 100amp charge controller is going to be a solid investment for those with large battery banks with brand agnostic inverters.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
So Morningstar had Modbus TCP support, embedded webserver, email and triggered alert functionality and so on bundled into their CCs at least 10 years ago.

It is just that their target market was more of industrial and engineering and dealing with the complexity needed to use those features was normal for those environments - the users had the required technical background and rigor to use the tools without trouble.

Victron appears better because they open sourced their own development and thereby made it easy for hard core technical people and normal users and DIYers to collaborate and leverage on each other's work.

And the open source community that Victron opened up to greatly helped in more wide use adoption. But the killer functionality i think was the bluetooth app that allowed people to use their smartphones to update firmware and tinker with settings without all the technical complexity of morning star that you correctly alluded to. The VRM environment too was much better looking and tight integration with other products within the ecosystem using a cerbo gx also added to ease of use. Now with an inverter and charge controller from morning star, the rate of failure from an installation should be really low looking at our environments here in Nigeria. I love the fact that the products are overspecced and fanless. Perfect for those off-grid rural installations where you don't need to worry too much about the equipment malfunctioning.

zeestone99:
You hear morning star now, see as your adrenaline pumped up... If I catch u and morning star

Even me sef my blood don dey hot .

I have attended several Morning Star webinars now, read some of their whitepapers and even contacted them on warranty issues. Their high engineering standards and the way they overbuilt the designs on their products made me fall in love with it. Add to it the fact that their products are used in industrial applications with several certifications reassured me on their use. At the time my only issue with them was lack of Bluetooth/wireless, 60amps instead of 100amps and their software support was not as good looking nor interactive like Victron. Plus they had no inverter line of products that one can integrate their charge controller into. Things have changed now for the better. Victron still has a far more robust ecosystem and inter connectivity amongst its products but Morning Star has made a huge leap forward to catch up. Please for those who do not know, Victron & Morning Star are the German cars of charge controllers and inverters. America & Europe. Their prices also reflect those high quality.

NiyiOmoIyunade:
Good news all around!

I used to be somewhat of a MorningStar fan boy before porting to Lithium and leaving them behind (tearfully) because they had limited support for Lithium chemistries and poor handling of battery disconnects

However, these products or concepts from MorningStar are not so new, they have had a 300w SureSine inverter for some years now and even demoed their bigger inverters in Nigeria (@Richmond had a few units to test I believe). Also they have had a 600v 60a Charge controller that could be parallel stacked with little extra equipment (same as their standard 150v/60a CCs) so fairly ahead of Victron in that area.

Just to set the right base as we evaluate how far they have come.

Forgot to tag you and Oga GeorgeD1 sef as the resident Morning Star fanboys

I believe Oga GeorgeD1 is still rocking his Tristar-60 charge controllers.

Yes, they mentioned in their webinar having had a product in the inverter range (300w12v) but nothing as fully loaded as what they are bringing out to the market now. If i remember correctly, the lack of certain features/upgrades was what led you and others to port to Victron and they themselves alluded to that fact that it took them years to work on upgrading their lines of products to their "high standards" before releasing them to the market.

See better product.

Moving onto other news.......

Morning Star have just launched a new range of products upgrading their solar charge controllers and introducing a new range of inverters. O boy, Morning Star have really gone all out on this. They increased the voltage of their flagship charge controller from 150v to 200v and increased the amperage from 60ah to 100ah finally catching up to Victron. They also added Bluetooth and wifi finally. Their new range of inverters is fanless people and over built Morning Star standard to handle and operate in rugged areas and high temperatures. Check them out in the link https://www.morningstarcorp.com/new-products-fall-2022/

DamianX:
Hello pros in the house. What is the recommendation and what will it cost me to power and ultrawide monitor, CPU, led light bulbs, speakers, PS5, charge gadgets, Basically a home work station for atleast 16 hours when there is an outage. The power condition here is good just that sometimes total blackout can last for 3-5 days so I want a backup solar system that will serve me through my daily activities.


Something like this...

You will have to do an energy audit of all the things you want to power. Check the rated power draw on the power supply and total it up times the number of hours you want to run them for. The figure you get will determine the system setup you will need. Do you intend to get a setup with charging from solar panels or do you want to charge from the grid alone ? Also for your budget LifeP04 or Lead Acid ? Since there are no major loads for you to run, a basic 3.5kva 24v system should be enough to do the job. If you add a 24v 280ah LifeP04 battery pack, you should be golden.

truthbetold22:
This guy is a complete slowpoke. Let’s just say it how it is and rest. What is all this defense for? You may not have had the intention to scam him but you sure weren’t upfront about the condition of the inverter. Wether u wanted to give him a new board or not is after the fact.

Simply accept it as it is rather than spewing rubbish; what is in your hardware mounting or unmounting that we have not seen on google before?

You called the installer a small boy, called the buyer a radionic, what that has to do with buying inverter is what I don’t know? Some of you think old age is enough reason to be condescending or disrespectful. Your age is in your pocket, this is a public forum. There are foolish old men and wise young boys so be guided!!

Which kind over bloated self importance be this?

Dude has totally just lost it in my opinion. Just thrashed his self respect and worth on this platform. And the internet never forgets. Just tarnished his image with all the unnecessary name calling and poor attempts to deflect from the truth. To add salt to injury, calling all the people that have commented rightfully against him as "internet trolls" Chai !!! It is well with us. Nothing wey we no see for this thread sha.

desiji:
i think you have completely lost it, when we talked i told you how much you wanted to buy a MPP 8kw inverter for 450k which i already know i was going to fix because the display board was defective i had other things doing which i couldn't fix i wanted to give an mppt board as JARA and you are here ranting you must totally delusional saying what you did, ask a boy of 19 to come and cheack and you called him an installer,
must be dreaming. mind you he came to my house if i anted to scam you will i do that you must have lost something in your oblongata, even gave the poor boy money for tansport

Oga Desiji,
Your reply still hasn't resolved the fact that you attempted to knowingly sell a defective product to people who intended to buy your product in good faith. Even in your initial post here on this thread no where was it stated that the inverter in question was faulty and needed repair either by you or the prospective buyer. That is the main bone of contention here. Nobody will have minded buying a product with a known issue if the seller is honest and upfront about it something which a lot of sellers on this thread and in Nigeria as a whole regularly do. It makes buyers to be guarded and cynical when trying to purchase items from people to avoid being cheated out of their hard earned money. An explanation or even apology will have sufficed rather than all these.

This thread needs a long overdue update Boss.

kiekie1:
Hello, why scouting around on my mention knowing absolutely well i don't owe you anything neither have i had any issue with you in person .
It's becoming quite immatured floating around Nairaland for unnecessary attention whereas serious minded peeps go about their daily businesses .

I paused , pondered about the monicker and asked myself "why unnecessarily bitter for no just cause?" "Do i owe you in anyway" ? I've always gone about daily transactions making sure we deliver goods & services & we keep developing to be sincere! I'm not a spirit , I'm fully available esp in Lagos, if you've any grievance, meet me up for resolution as saner beings do. That's all !


I crave your indulgence, Let peace rule! #Gracias

So, just to clarify are you the owner of Techland or in any way affiliated to Techland Solar https://www.techlandsolar.ng/ ?

TechGeek777:
@valto to increase sales on your LFP batteries, I suggest you create FAQs and post it here AND also build a website where you can list prices of all your items.

I thought it's just 100ah/105ah & 230ah LFP you sell, don't know you even sell 150ah.

Many more will purchase from you but are tied down due to one or two reasons.

The truth is you MUST have high patronage on your LFP batteries, but you should equally be able to invest in tech-based advancement.

What you are doing now (box) is mechanical.

@Kiekie1 of techland, I must commend your website its professional and straight to the point.

@Kiekie1 of techland, I must commend your website its professional and straight to the point

Hehehehehe One Chance............If you know, you know

See examples of a lightning damage to a house DB. Or if that your overloaded transformer in your area decides to do werey for you or when NEPA brings back "strong light" to your area and you hear tvs and other electrical appliances going off like gunshots.

odimbannamdi:
Guys,

Please i need your thoughts on this:

What is the implication of a house not having a proper earth connection (or even none at all)?

What components of a solar inverter system could possibly get damaged due to this situation?

And, how can we prevent those damages without having to resolve the earth connection issue?

Finally, how easy is it to do an earth connection for an already built house or to resolve a poorly done earth connection?

Apologies if my questions seem out of place...i am not too techy... ...but i really want to learn.

Thanks

I am also not too techy but "Google" is a good friend of mine and so these are just my thoughts and NOT professional advice.

What is the implication of a house not having a proper earth connection (or even none at all)?

If the house is not earthed, people could get electrocuted. Without an earth connection, the safety switches will not work and an electrical fault could cause a house or appliances to become ‘live’ as the current flows to earth. there is poor or no connection between the electrical wire and the earth stake. Surge and lightning damage to electronics is a frequent occurrence especially with an unstable grid like ours and during the rainy season. So earthing is highly recommended both for personal safety and to protect your expensive home electrical equipment,

What components of a solar inverter system could possibly get damaged due to this situation?

Everything. A proper surge or lighting strike can even burn the inverter if a direct strike hits your installation. Lightning contains awesome amounts of electrical energy. Lightning discharges have been measured from several thousand to over 200,000 Amps (enough to light half a million 100 Watt bulbs) and even though of a very short duration, can cause tremendous damage and destruction.

And, how can we prevent those damages without having to resolve the earth connection issue?

Electricity always looks for the shortest path to the earth, therefore if there is any problem where the neutral wire is broken or interrupted, then it is the grounding wire that provides a direct path to the ground. This direct physical connection allows the earth to act as a path of least resistance and prevent an appliance or a person from becoming the shortest path. An earth rod is the most basic protection you can start with for the grounding for the house and you should be able to link some parts of your DB (Distribution Board) to it. An SPD (Surge Protection Device) can also be included at the AC input of your inverter connection apart from the AC breaker. I am not an electrician so i cannot be detailed enough but it is highly recommended you get a professional electrician to check out the wiring of that location.

Finally, how easy is it to do an earth connection for an already built house or to resolve a poorly done earth connection?

Again a proper electrician should be able to assess the electrical wiring and check out the grounding. Egbon Niyi and Bigrovar have talked extensively here about their grounding process and can talk a bit more on that you check out their previous posts here.

AkoEja:
I already have the inverter and MPPT please, with solar on the roof linked to my old system

Why not contact their authorized dealer directly ? They can link you with a certified installer and any warranty issues you may have in the future.

https://komponents.ng/contact/

Call:
0809 937 8347
0809 017 5943

Email:
info@komponents.ng
Visit:
27B Ize-Iyamu Street, Off Billings Way Oregun, Lagos 100212.

Working Hours:
Mon - Fri: 9AM - 5PM
Sat & Sun: CLOSED

Valto:
not true bro. an inverter like deye comes with 5yrs warranty. most transformer based inverter are power guzzlers, especially those products u mentioned.

I agree. The standby consumption alone on those things is like a load sef.

Depending on the quality of the transformer inside (most low budget brands use low quality), the longevity of those transformers are in doubt.

Yes, transformer based inverters are good for devices with high surges but unless your going to be running a lot of air conditioning, refrigerators, air compressors and other heavy loads over 5KVA. If you really need it, then go for reputable brands with toroidal transformers inside to get better efficiency.

isangjohnson:
Una dey spoil people's market here oh.

You always have a choice of where you can spend your money at. But just be honest about what your selling to people. When people call you out for your false claims, its not about spoiling your market but better informing other potential buyers to get a more open picture of what your selling. Niyi spoke some pages back earlier about information asymmetry in the solar market and i agree. A lot of people who buy and sell products in the solar market are either not well informed or deliberately withhold information from buyers to make a sale counting on the ignorance of buyers not to do their own homework first.

This back and forth on Felicity batteries is not even up for debate. We have listed the pages of several sellers of Grade A LF280k EVE cells that are used in electronic vehicles like Tesla. Chat them up on Ali Baba and ask them how much to sell you the same capacity of cells, BMS, casing for these LifeP04 cells. YouTube is littered with tests on LifeP04 cells by Chinese manufacturers who sell their products en masse everywhere they can. Three things stand out for me. The use of Grade B cells which are being recycled from other previous applications and so have reduced life cycles, the nameplate capacity of the batteries not being delivered in real world use compared to their claims and poor customer service from Felicity Reps when it comes to repairs and servicing of faulty equipment. But because LifeP04 has some advantages over the mass market lead acid batteries we have in the market (higher DOD & faster charging), we accept every manufacturers claim at face value. The knowledge gap in the solar industry in Nigeria sometimes is shocking reading all the comments newbies and some sellers post here. Felicity has an advantage of selling a different battery technology with great advantages in the market right now, it doesn't mean that you are getting your moneys worth. People with clamp meters, multimeter, smart shunts have done capacity tests and even opened a battery showing refurbished BYD cells here. But hey, it's your money and your choice.

TechGeek777:
Boss why na?

820k just to buy above, money wey reach to setup 24v LA system.

Abeg op if the money too much channel some come my side as I dey struggle financially to get Solar for house

I dey help am spend the money ni.

When quality is more important than price, then better to have several options to choose from. You get access to a wider pool of products.

All pockets are not equal o TechGeek777

FEGEITOK:
Your concerns are noted. That said when I wanted to buy an AC, I got Panasonic because of their reputation for quality, last week I wanted to get another AC, and did some more research and two names popped up, Panasonic and Daikin.

Needless to say there are other brands which maybe cheaper.

But quality to me is more important than price.

I am interested in Schneider and Victron precisely because of the bells and whistles. I want more than a barebones inverter.

Great to hear

You can checkout SolaX X1 Hybrid G4 and Alpha ESS SMILE-G3 range of inverters for all in one inverters with high voltage batteries. SolaX has an authorised dealer here in Nigeria https://www.atlanticwastepower.com/ with a 10yr warranty on their products. Cool setups that are an all in one package without seperate charge controllers, combiner box, batteries, etc.

earthrealm:
I recall earlier where you said victron isn't a DIY plug and play device....has that changed, if not best you always state that when recommending victron, b4 a newbie listens to your advice and goes to buy victron, but gets stumped and finds out, he cant install and use right out the box

While paying an arm and leg in the process. Chinese inverter manufacturers have come a long way in quality inverters that are budget friendly without all the bells and whistles that European products like Victron, SMA etc have.