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TAO11:
I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the Binis regard as Oghene who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that this Oghene is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

You tried your best but all your references are after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the King whom the Binis regard as Oghene who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that this Oghene is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

You tried your best but all your references were after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the King whom the Binis regard as Oghene who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that the Ogane is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

You tried your best but all your references are after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the Ogane who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that the Ogane is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

You tried your best but all your references are after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.


The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Gregyboy, do you want to give the Yoruba people around here headaches? The people are still scratching their heads around the $1000 dollars challenge, you came up with another assignment.

The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
Hahahah! He fled after the humiliation. Follow thread below, people:

https://www.nairaland.com/5314103/benins-first-educated-nigerians-dr/9#89185234

The queen of copy and paste fabrications doesn't know how to give a simple citation with date any more.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
The book was completed in 1897 and published years afterwards. This is known information.

And you asked for a writing up to 1897.

What you should seek to do is disprove the fact that the writting was completed by 1897.

I already see the humiliatiin in your tone.


Having humiliated you on your idiotic challenge:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

Your idiocy must be obvious to you now at this point.

Quote a book on Benin history that mentioned Oduduwa, Oranmiyan and Ife. You know how to cite a book. You are not new to referencing a book.

If you are not up to the task, please let others try their luck.

If Benin had relationship with Ife in the first 400 years of Benin written and documented history, there would have been numerous mention of Ife in Benin history and the mention will not just be confined to the 1800s alone.

There are numerous mention of Lagos in Benin history from 1603.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
(1) Books are written before they are published.

(2) If the completion date of the writting is known, then we say we know the completion date.

(3) If only the publication date is known, then was just that.

(4) But in this case, we also know the completion date.

This humiliation you've brought upon yourself is inescapable.

And that's because your moronic challenge is simply not well planned out, courtesy of your illiteracy.


My challenge to you however is as follows:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

Your idiocy must be obvious to you now at this point.

All you need to do is copy and paste as usual and give us the reference to the book with year published. Just give us a citation and stop all these embarrassing dribbling around with words.

Ejoor, we are all waiting. There is no deadline yet to the prize payout.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Juliusmalema:
Hmmmmmm


That's sound.

So samuk extra $1500 added.


I think Yorubas and Bini should call for cultural and historical confluence to Iron issues out.

Very interesting, what are you still waiting for. Hopefully all the fabrications from the Yorubas will stop after this.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
Who do you think is taking your moronic challenge.

Your idiotic challenge says a book "written in..."--- but now it's become a book "published in...".

Your idiotic challenge alludes to a book containing "Benin's written history" --- but now it's changed to a book whose front title must say "Benin Written History".

In any case, before you begin to delude yourself, I'm simply pointing out your idiocy to you by asking you to meet the following challenge:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

Your idiocy must be obvious to you now at this point.

When you cite a book , don't you cite the purplish date, you have suddenly forgotten how to give a citation. The queen of copy and paste fabricated citations is finally humbled.

This is a head scratching moment for all the Yoruba pseudo nairaland historians.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

TAO11:
Listen up Illiterate, Johnson's "The History of The Yorubas" completed in 1897 is littered with Ife, Oranmiyan, Oduduwa, Ife-Benin connection.

But do we expect from an illiterate who struggles to feed but wants to send people $1000?

cc: geosegun

Even though Johnson didn't write the history of Benin, but I am ready to consider it if you can give me the year the book was published. Please provide a citation from the Johnson's book you referred to, including the year it was published.

Please hurry up I am sure our readers are waiting for this great moment of revelation.

I am already panicking and quaking in my boots.

This is indeed a serious head scratching moment for all Yoruba nairaland pseudo historians.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Juliusmalema:
Well, If possible for certain purposes. Igbos are Republicans and balanced to always allow views but it seems you guys now wants to rode on that for granted.

We aren't known for fabricating lies but it seems it needs to be adopted to re-write the hands of time.

Igbos needs history of them been alone and such history should be encouraged onwards.

Igbo have their history. No one is saying Igbo doesn't have history, early Igbo history has Benin built in and if you want Igbo history without Benin, you will have to wait a bit longer because there are people and kings across Igbo land who are still claiming Benin ancestry.

Juliusmalema:
It can only be changed with time and by scholars. We can't predict time but certainly some histories has to be laid off to suit time and in consonance with situations on ground. Many things has happened and time passed and so we must not allow certain histories that might be injurious to us to let go.


We need to phase it out and people like that writer you quoted need to be called to order.

You are basically saying scholars will come and fabricate new history to change the old history.

That is what the Yoruba scholars have been doing with Benin history, that is why I throw up the challenge to them.

The truth is, fabricated, China made history can't stand the test of time, history are made and not fabricated.

TAO11:
Hahahaha!

You too already know him to be a circus clown. Lol.

What you may not know about him, however, is that he is also an illiterate --- an insecure one at that.

I swear he hasn't read one book about Benin history.

To say I've refuted, debunked, and trashed him (and exposed him as fatuous lying illiterate) is actually an understatement.

Please educate and embarrass the illiterate with your vast knowledge and even deprive him of $1000 US dollars.

The Igbos and Yorubas can collaborate on this simple challenge.

You can't copy and paste your way out of this. Insults wouldn't help you either.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Juliusmalema:
As far as he removes Bini from the story no matter who is lording over each other, I am okay by it.

Before tomorrow revisionist like you might twist the story. I just want Bini/Igbo stories phased out of this life.

You know that's impossible, what God have ordained can't be changed by man. Igbo will continue to remain part of Benin history till eternity.

Ife is Lucky, it only came into Benin history after 1897, but Igbo has been there for centuries.

Olaudah Equiano book of 1789, 102 years before the end of Benin empire, said Benin and Igbo were having a very loving relationship centuries back, before the British came to end the honeymoon, how would you change this narrative.

Juliusmalema:
I have already proved that.

Ife ruled over Bini even till this day.

This like bringing two blood brothers and ask another person to tell the story of the same blood brothers when it is obvious one ruled over the other.

Nna men forget about blood brothers fighting, all you need to do is simply repost your original prove since you claimed to have proved it before. You will not only embarrass me but deprive me of $1000 US dollars.

This is going to be a big embarrassment to the Igbos and Yorubas if they can't answer this simple question.

Juliusmalema:
No need for external hands.

TAO11.

Come and educate your little blood brothers.

We suppose not to be meddling into Yorubas/Bini historical feuds. Brothers do fight sometimes.

Whilst we are waiting for the queen of copy and paste fabrications to come and save you guys the embarrassment of your fallacies.

The below is what I got from one of your Igbo brothers, what is your take on his contribution.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The Portuguese were referring to Nri.

Eze Nri was like the pope of Igbo cultural and religious practicies and also a King of the ancient Nri territories of Enugwu-Ukwu, Agukwu, Enugwu-Agidi and Nawfia.

Ofo (which is the staff of office) will normally be issued out to Igbo kings, Benin Obas and Attahs of Igala, by the reigning Eze Nri who was the high priest.

In the olden days, every Oba of Benin and Attah of Igala, must also be made an Ozo title holder before they become proper candidates for any royal positions.

The thing is that people have no idea that Igbos were the principal civilizing influence in the dark ages. I hope one of these days, the full tale of Nri people will be revealed to the world.
Perhaps, about a hundred years ago, some British anthropologists asked the reigning Nri king which territories were under Nri influence. He mentioned towns including Aguleri and Idu (the way ancient Nri people referred to Edo/Bini people).
This Nri king had no idea Portuguese anthropologists had already been to Benin and found evidence of Nri overlordship of Benin, a few hundreds of years before.
Imagine if these Portuguese did not make this recording, today people will be accusing Nri people of chest-beating, but thank God these Portuguese people visited.

geosegun:
The above summarized it all. Another knock out from @TAO11. What a well seasoned scholarly person you are...Respect.

I wonder why some people will be comfortable to lie and distort history because of their inferiority complex. What's the big deal if one city rules over the other...? For the records, Britain was enslaved by Roman's, the now mighty US was ruled by small highland Britain for almost 400 years and brought about her civilisation and heaven did not fall. Even Britain, the US and some rest of old powers are confidence to include these in there national histories. They ve accepted who they are and have moved on and hence, great people now.

But nay, our people will distort histories and think they are doing themselves a tribal service? Not knowing that it was a great disservice to generations yet unborn, as no one will ever take you/them serious in any way. This act of historical distortions is a national disgrace. This has to stop.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Juliusmalema:
Igbos has nothing to discuss with Bini.

Face Yoruba that is ruling you guys.

A bini man also a Yoruba man. Only state of origin differs.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Juliusmalema:
The history exists

Those who are ready to prove it should go ahead but It was Ife king that send his son to Bini to rule over them..


Revisionist are always weak in their own argument.

Why don't you provide the answer to the challenge instead of calling on others to do it for you.

The period in question is 1475 to 1897.

RedboneSmith:
The post said 1987. Now you're saying 1897.

I am sure that was a typo, go back to the previous discussions on this challenge, it was written more than once. It's between 1475 to 1897.

You can also read previous post on this challenge. The queen of copy and paste hasn't be able to copy and paste her way out of this.

If the Benin told the English about Ife while the English were busy ransacking and burning down Benin city in 1897, I am sure the Benin would have also told other Europeans that visited and documented the history of Benin between 1475 and 1897.

All you guys need to do is just provide a reference to such a book or writer and the prize is yours.

INnaMAN:
The history of the acient benin kingdom and empire by chief D.N Oronsaye.

D. N Oransaye was written after 1897. Nice try anyway.

RedboneSmith:
Hmm. Between 1476 and 1987, you say.

Hmm. If I go to my archives and dig up the books written by Talbot, Egharevba, etc, and you no wire me this 1K, I go swear for you oh. Hehn!

The challenge is on, mind you Egharevba was written after 1897.

RedboneSmith:
J U Egharevba's work counts as written history between 1475 and 1987 oh. I'm just telling you now make them no chop your 1K.

The challenge is very simple. Anybody interested should go through the various libraries and archives of Benin history written between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period and believe me there are thousands of pages covering every rulers and people Benin came into contact with. All I am asking is to point out the names Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan from any of those written accounts.

The thread has gone quiet since I throw up the challenge.

I am certain there will be nothing to point to because Benin/Ife relationship was created after the end of Benin empire in 1897.

The Yoruba are trying to create Ife out of the ashes of Benin empire and claim Benin history for themselves, but Benin is not completely dead, buried or cremated yet.

davidnazee:
Ife can never be great without Benin.. Everything they have said about Ife is Benin, take Benin out of it and there is no Ife.

That's why I have this challenge for them.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1987, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

INnaMAN:
it span back from the 12th century.when crowned prince ekaladerhan that was sentenced to death was set free at ughoton near benin.

Ekaladerhan found his way to ile ife.and also changed his name to izoduwa.whom the ife people call oduduwa.the people of benin wanted ekaladerham as king after the death of his father but due to his already advanced age he presented oranmiyan his grandson instead

Please provide the 12th century book your historical accounts was written in and get your account details ready to receive the prize.

If you don't have a bank account, don't worry, your prize will be sent to you via western union.

gregyboy:
Jeez


I want to disproved the fact that there was no Benin-ife connections that it was all made up for political gains........


What do i get

Sorry no prize for that.

Juliusmalema:
The young man is a small boy. If Okowa can declare his Igboness even his king of Owa. Who are the others..

Mixture indeed with Igbo names and cultures throughout. Sometimes people should look at how they sound with some argument on a serious note.

Biafra have been warned to stay out of south south.

Any future Biafra will be confined to the current 5 south eastern states, there is no land to steal in the south south, the owners of the land have spoken.

Delta State Governor, Dr. If­eanyi Okowa who hails from Owa- Oyibu in Ika North-East council area within Anioma land, disowned the purported map, insisting that no part of the state was in Biafra territory ab-initio.

“We have criticized Biafran agita­tion. Anioma land, as it is, from here we are part of old Bendel State, we are part of the Mid-west State, we have not been part of the South-East, so obviously, we cannot be said to be part of them.

“We may speak a similar language but we are not part of the South-East. We were part of the Mid-west which was later Bendel State. We are now Delta State and we are Deltans,” Okowa told journalists in Asaba.

“The governors of Rivers, Cross River and Akwa-Ibom have made pronouncements prohibiting such protests. There are no more demon­strations in Port Harcourt, Calabar and Uyo because the governors are no longer tolerating the agitators.

Ndi Anioma of Nigeria, in a statement jointly signed on behalf of Anioma nation by Lauretta Onochie, Emeka Esogbue, Gloria Adagbon, Emmanuel Nwaokolo, Smart Ajaja, Frank Ofili, Benson Ozour, Harris Pen Ogbolu, Lawrence Egwali, Gregory Ogbolu, Ifeanyi Onwuli and Fidelis Chimokwu, noted that Biafra died permanently in 1970.

“Like most observers who followed the nature of Biafra in 1967, Ndi Anioma is of the view that Biafra died perma­nently in 1970 with the surrender speech made by Philip Effiong in which he emphatically stated: ‘Biafra ceases to exist’, following Col. Emeka Odimegwu Ojukwu’s escape to Ivory Coast.

“In spite of this circumstance, a few resentful people of South-East origin are attempting to exploit a non-existent opportunity to make the present democratic dispensation ungovernable.
“But for posterity, Ndi-Anioma must make its position clear thus: Anioma has never been part of Biafra in history or administration. For record purposes, Anioma was first situated in the Western Region, then Midwestern Region, Bendel State, and now Delta State in the South-South. We cannot for any reason afford to be forcefully strong-armed into any region, outside the region within the South-South geographical zone.

“Henceforward, the representation of Anioma in differ­ent maps of Biafra does not and cannot amount to Anioma being part of Biafra. That can only be in the figment of the imagination of desperate irredentist adventurers who cre­atively made such maps to satisfy their thirst for empire-building. They may make Anioma to exist in their maps, but the world must note that it does not have our consent as we reject that tag vehemently.

Besides this stand, is the position of the traditional ruler of Asaba, Asagba (Prof.) Chike Edozien who insists that the unity of Nigeria is no longer negotiable after the frat­ricidal war that claimed several lives including Asaba na­tives.

“What is the greatness of Asaba? The greatness of Asaba is that it the beginning, the centre of a great country that houses more than one-third of black people in the world. So if you divide Nigeria, Asaba will become the centre of part of that great country, you have diminished Asaba, I don’t want Asaba to be diminished.