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I have a quiz for ma fellow Nairalanders. . . . . .

Which Nigerian player has played in all levels of football competition(U17, U20, Olympic, Nations Cup and World Cup)??

Dayo, Kit, Tkb, Sagamite. . . . .
Answer in 5 mins.

First correct answer. . . . .$100.

tkb417:
what about the U 20 team in 1993? them Okochas, mancha, precious monye and co
who handled that team? james Peters abi?

Mauritius 93?
The most useless national squad ever. . . . . .but i agree Amodu's 2010 team is worse.

dayokanu:
Amodu won the Benue state lottery.

Tkb, Didnt you see the way Sharon and co were wanking over Boras 1998 team?

Troussiere qualified us for the world cup without any stain, his record in Nigeria ia almost perfect.

have you forgotten Fanny Amun of the "fumble and wobble" fame . Go watch Nigeria 95. With Gideon imagudu, Olumide harris, Duke Udi, manga Mohammed etc

Bora's team spanked Spain in France 98.
That Spanish side had many Real Madrid players - who had just won the UCL just before the World Cup.

dayokanu:
1) Clemens Westerhof
2) Otto Gloria
3)Phillipe Troussiere
4) Jo Bonfere
5)Samson Siasia
6) Manfred Hoener
7) Yemi Tella
Sebastine Broderick
9) Bora Milutinovic
10) Fanny Amun

Something must be wrong with you guys, abeg.
Dayo. . . . . .U sabi football too much not to include Supremo Amodu in your top ten managers in Nigeria.
Are you saying Fanny Amun is better than Sagamite's Amodu? Are you sure? Didn't Amodu win the Nations Cup in 1980?

tkb417:
Amodu shd be number 12 after Okey Emordi

U must be joking, innit?

U mean Lord Amodu Shuaib has never won any competition for the National Team before?
I thunk he won the Nations Cup in 1980 and 1994. . . . Plus he won Atlanta 96 and China 85.

TKB, check your facts o. . . . .
This guy musta won something. . . . .otherwise, Sagamite wouldn't be here defending the Supreme Commander-in-Coach, Amodu.

Dr Kitaun:
Where is Thigts Libregts in your list ?

Berti Vogts ?

Manfred Hoener ?

abi u no be asskiser again ?      

But levels pass levels o. . . . . .
TKB feels Amodu isn't in the elite league of Naija coaches and Sagamite thinks Amodu is number one.
One man's Lexus is another man's wheelbarrow.

^^
What about Sebastian Brodericks. . . . .The Naija coach of Canada 87?
Fanny Amun?? Japan 93?

tkb417:
i wont talk again if sagamite shut up

Before you stop talking. . . . . .
I am writing a thesis on Nigerian Football coaches.

Can you gimme the top ten list of the best Nigerian coaches since 1970?

dayokanu:
Serbia and not American right?

England did not LOSE to America. . . . .In case your amnesia has kicked in again.
It was 1-1. Germany LOST to Serbia. . . . .Vidic's team took a whooping 3 points from the NAZIs.

Nemanja Vidic is probably the best defender in the game no shame in that, How about Oguchi Onyewu from Nnewi?

Like i said. . . . .the match ENDED in a draw but GERMANY got sodomized.

Rooney and Heskey have nightmares of Onyewu haunting them ever since

How come?
Rooney and Heskey broke Onyewu's defence. . . . .England scored in the first 5 mins.
Klose and Podolski did nothing against Vida's defence even when given a free shot from 12 yards. Pathetic German team.

proudly9ja:
By the way, did you place a bet on this thread reachinga hundred pages? Cos your arguements are getting a bit lame

Sagamite lost this argument in the 50th page.
From page 51 to the current page, he's been running from pillar to post to defend his beloved manager(FAGmodu).

@ Dr Kit,

We would never know what Lagerback had in mind in the second half.
Taiye Taiwo's injury put paid to any tactical approach Lagerback might have had in mind.

Maybe he woulda brought in Nsofor or Kanu or Adeleye. . . .but when his LEFT BACK got injured and the replacement also got INJURED, what can a manager do? Ignore the left back position and keep bringing in STRIKERS? HELL NO!!!!!

Sagamite:
He achieved his targets. Lagerback failed in his.

Achieved his targets by LOSING to Ghana in ACN?
So the NFF told Amodu a quater-final berth was his target?

He has a track record, Lagerback has none.

What track record?
Has Amodu ever played at any global competition before?
Track record ma arse. . . . . . .Amodu na local champion.

He wins 70% of his matches, Lagerback wins 43%.

Where are these stats coming from?
I will eat ma nose if Amodu has won 70% of his matches.
Not even Ferguson or Mourinho can boast of such records. 70% wetin? Na yam?

So who should have been given a chance to take the team?

Amodu had TIME(loads of it) and he fauled to achieve his primary targets.
All Amodu had to do to to take Nigeria to the world cup was play in the FINAL of the Nations Cup.
He didn't need to win it. . . . . .Just take Nigeria to the final and the world cup was his. . . .but the ruminant animal failed against average African teams and yet he shoulda been taken to the world cup.

I will personally hire a trigger-man to shoot Amodu in the head should such day come.

Sagamite:
So far Lagerback is failing. He may need more time, but if that was the case why change the coach earlier?

Lagerback + Time = Success
Amodu +(Time X 1000000000) = Failure.

Isn't the difference clear?

dayokanu:
Losing to a team of Ivanovic, Stankovic, Krasic and Vidic all CL players and playing with a man down for most of the game is not a measure of the German team.

They even created a lot of opportunities despite being a man down and not going down like some sissies against USA who dont have any CL quality player

Story. . . . .Story!!!
What was the FINAL SCORE after 90 mins?

Germany created chances, Ozil did 200 bicycle kicks, Podolski ran 200km/hr(faster than Porsche), Muller put a top spin on the ball. . . .
Who fuckin cares about such nonsense? Were Germany sodomized or not?

montelik:
@ Sagamite. While I agree with the double standards you are trying to expose. I don't think most Nigerian disliked Amodu because he was black. Most of the average super eagles fans problems with Amodu was not really related to racism. Also it is not fair subject Lagerback to "Monday morning quarterbacking". After all if Obasi had scored with an empty net, would pple not point to that as evidence of his tactical expertise. You yourself who not be criticizing him now had Obasi scored.

Like i have said. . . . . .
Sagamite is the king of hindsight analysis.

Amodu is so good he lost to Egypt scandalously with 11 players(No players got injured, no sub got injured).
If this Amodu is so excellent, why was he sacked?

Wow. . . . .
What a relief. . . . .The Nazis getting fecked by the HUGE Serbian cock.
Next time, someone would learn to be humble.

Nemanja Vidic. . . . . .The NAZI conqueror.
Podolski will forever be having nightmares of Vidic sodomizing him.

Sagamite:
First of all, Nsofor is better than Obasi. Nsofor would have made the team list before Obasi.
Nsofor was better in Olympics than Obasi. Nsofor has more caps than Obasi. Nsofor has more goals for SE than Obasi.
Please don't say that again. This saying anything to defend oyinbo is becoming lame.

Now you are using previous records again. . . . . . . .
Nsofor is better in the Olympics than Obasi? That was in the Olympics!! This is the World Cup.
Two different competitions under two different managers. Odems is a better player than Yakubu but in this competition, Yakubu has been head n shoulders over Odems. . . . .same logic applies to Nsofor and Obasi.

Obasi n Nsofor are suffering from stage-frights. . . . . Not every player can handle the pressure of playing in the World Cup.

Secondly, I was only mocking you that why not bring a striker with a worse performance against Arg to come and defend for you.

Lagerback considered Argentina a bigger threat than Greece.
With Argentina, he needed to defend because of the quality of their players. Argentina is not GREECE.

Amodu

Argentina 0 Nigeria 0

Mexico 1 Nigeria 1

Japan 0 Nigeria 3

France 0 Nigeria 1: Although not competitive by name, France was under pressure to win at home with their A-team against a B-team of an inferior team

17 wins in 24 matches (Win rate: 70%)

Japan are now World Champions?
Mexico are World Champions? The Argentine team Amodu drew in Riyadh was an experimental team.
They had no WPOTY in that team and they didn't have 3 forwards who scored 105 goals in their respective leagues.

Lagerback

Argentina 1 Nigeria 0

Greece 1 Nigeria 0

57 wins in 131 matches (Win rate 43%)

Argentina 1-0 Nigeria(Argentina had Messi, Tevez and Higuain)
Greece 2-1 Nigeria(Nigeria played 10 men for 60 mins).

So you can list NOTHING?
So the coach was daft for bring him in to DEFEND a goal?
LWKMD

He was instrumental to the only chance we created.
Had Yakubu showed more composure, Nigeria woulda scored the 2nd goal.
Osaze created no chance neither did he make any shot on target or contributed to one.
He was a pile of w@nk.

European competition is now shyte?  

If you don't play in the top clubs in Italy, England and Spain, you are not a GRADE A player.

So playing Juve is shyte? But if Lagerback wins such you would plaster this place with it as success?

Which Nigerian player is a regular Juventus player?
All we have are players in Switzerland, Russia, Montenegro and San Marino.

They are regulars except when injured.
TT, Yobo, Etuhu, Enyeama, Odiah, Odems, Uche, Adeleye, Yak all REGULARS. Uche is even highest goalscorer for his team. Some are league winners.

Uche is the highest goal scorer for his team. What is this team?
Can you compare the quality of players Ivory Coast have got to the Nigerian players.
Look at CIV - They have Eboue(Arsenal), Toure(Man City) DROGBA(Chelsea - EPL conquerors), Kalou(Chelsea), etc.
That is what i call a quality team not the buncha scraps Amodu left before getting SACKED.

Amodu should develop players for you but Lagerback has no options.  

Amodu had more time to develop these players.
LGBK had only few weeks to assemble a World Cup Squad, of course he had to work with the shower of shyte Amodu assembled.

The local matches LGBK watched nko, what did he discover. Amodu told you all then: THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. And they were not hence CHAN. AMODU KNEW!!!

LGBK should choose World Cup players based on the local matches he watched in few weeks? WOW!!!
That's a first. Amodu;s total number of years as a Naija manager is FIVE YEARS and yet you cannot point to something positive the ruminant animal achieved as far as player development is concerned.

Obasi is FIRST striker in his team. Secondly, winger.

Obasi is a winger(hence a midfielder).

Winger is not a midfielder, otherwise you are saying Messi or Saviola are midfielders. That is lame arguments.

Cristiano Ronaldo was a winger in Man Utd and i remember him breaking the record of the highest scoring midfielder.
In other words, a winger is effectively a midfielder. Figo, Nani are not called strikers. . . . They are MIDFIELDERS. Touch-line huggers.
Players who play on the wing in a 4-4-2 system are midfielders. Ribery is a midfielder not a striker.

You don't agree with facts?

I cannot see the FACTS here.

Option A
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-452348.2240.html#msg6237682

Option A in hindsight. . . . .  .
This is so easy to dream about because you weren't on the bench to deal with the unexpected injury copped by TT and his replacement(Echejile).
Not even Mourinho coulda done something to salvage a result yesterday.

We all saw how Serbia dismantled the Almighty Germans today when Germany were a man short but then Lagerback should be Rinus Michel and should win even if he is playing 7 men against 11.
In Lagerback's shoes yesterday, Amodu's team woulda conceded 6 goals.
He conceded 3 goals against Egypt even with 11 men. . . . . .

Sagamite:
Also you know that under Amodu our stats were great so Amodu is a good coach?

Abeg, stop mentioning Amodu's stats here. . . . .
Amodu never played a quality team in competitive matches.

Lagerback played Argentina(2-time world cup champions) and ranked 7th in the world
He also played Greece(Euro 2004 champions) and ranked 13th in the world.

Amodu played shyte teams that were ranked 80th, 74th and 123rd in the world.
Who wouldn't cop good stats against such nonsense teams?

dayokanu:
Germany lost to Serbia with 10 men

England drew USA with 11 men Do you see the difference?

Serbia have Ivanovic, Vidic, Stankovic, Kolarov, Krasic etc who play top level club football

USA ? ? ?

Germany lost to Serbia with 10 men

Germany's ranking. . . .6th
Serbia's ranking. . . . . .15th

England drew with USA

England ranking. . . . . .7th
USA ranking. . . . . . . . .14th.

I think England did better. . . . .There are only 7 places between them and USA.
There are 9 places between Germany and Serbia and Germany still LOST like a biaaaatch that they are.

Sagamite:
Lets imagine Odems did not cover himself in glory.
Obasi is the one to bring in? Why not Nsofor?  

Obasi is better than Nsofor.
Nsofor is the forward version of Taiye Taiwo. Powerful left foot, no brains.

Compare Amodu's win rate to Lagerbacks.

Amodu's win rate against which quality?
I will beat Kenya, Mozambique, Namibia, Lesotho, Libya and Liberia with the quality in the Super Eagles.

Obasi?

Please tell me what he has done.
Tell me what cross he has made.
Tell me what shot on target he has made. I wait.  

He did little but he was still better than Osaze overall in terms of general performance.

They are not fit but most are regulars in their clubs?

Only Mikel Obi played regularly last season.
Yobo was in and out. . Etuhu was not a regular for Fulham . . I don't reckon with the remaining cos they play in the shyte leagues of Europe.

They are not fit and Lageerback took them to world cup?

Who else is there to take to the world cup?
Shouldn't that be Amodu's fault. . . . .  .Amodu left useless players before he got sacked.
As an indigenous National Team manager, he shoulda discovered more players in the SE with the time he had and the familiarity with the Naija league but he did nowt.

We should not defend a goal when we are one man down. So when should we start defending it? When we are 2 man down or 2 goals down?
I don't tell lies. I say it as it is.
Obasi is a striker/winger, not a midfielder:

A winger is a midfielder. . .
Finidi and Amuneke were not called strikers.
They were midfielders in a 4-4-2 system. Figo is a winger and a midfielder.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/6198169.stm
http://www.achtzehn99.de/spielerportrait-profis-en-2/23/
http://www.achtzehn99.de/kader-profis-en/

You agree?

I don't agree.

He should have brought it defensive padding instead of striker at first to counter the attcking sub rehaggel made. Abi I lie?

U lie. . . . . .
In the 34th minute, you don't start defending with 5 defenders.
The KEY is to keep the shape and squeeze out all the space the Greeks would want to get.
That plan worked perfectly as Greece couldn't find that space and they resorted to long distance shots.

4-4-1 with no DM but a CM and hot-headed AM is useless.

Remember my option A is 4-4-1. Abi i lie?

Your option A was 5-3-1 or 5-1-3.

Has anyone else noticed how difficult it is to control this JABULANI ball?

90% of the passes have been OVERHIT. . . . .
Normal passes keep going astray.
In terms of quality, this is the worst world cup ever.


GERMANY LOSE OOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dayokanu, how useless is your beloved country now?

England drew - ERECTIONS for you.
GERMANY lost. . . . .?? ?? ?? ??

RuuDie:
see dis serbia oh. . . . una no wan end dis game!?

Serbia are useless.
Even now, i want the Germans to score and shame these Serbs.
They have no ambition at all.

tkb417:
This Poldoski is a waste pipe

I dunno who is more useless. . . . .
ZIGIC or Podolski.


What is with extra-tall people and lack of mental faculty?

Zigic
Crouch
Dayokanu

Emperoh:
Sauron
Who has the fastest goal in WC history?

Hakan Sukur against South Korea in 2002.
11 seconds, i think. . . .

dayokanu:
How many in the English team are really English?

all the black players have Carribean heritage right?

But this is the same country that produced Hitler.
I am not sure he would be happy NIGGAZ are now representing his beloved Germany.

ZIGIC is useless. . . . . . .

He should be burying that.

Krasic has been MOTM for me.
He has destroyed his marker.

PODOLSKI is useless. . . . . .
Honestly, how did this guy make the German team?

SERBIA hit the POST!!!

Krasic sodomising German defenders like CRAZY.

ogazi007:
Vidic of all defenders,he made such a glaring blunder.
he was lucky he didnt get a red card.

How was that a red card?
Did he prevent a goal scoring opportunity? No German player was near the ball and the handball was accidental.

Podolski is running Ivanovic to the ground.
Serbia should change Ivanovic. . . . . . He's been w@nk in this game.

dayokanu:
SAved

I thunk GERMANS don't miss penalty kicks.

VIDIC is such a w@nker. . . . . .

Why raise your hands.


GERMANY missed THE PENALTY.

PODOLSKI is the most useless GERMAN player EVER.

What a pass by Phillip Lahm
What a tackle by VIDIC!!!!

Iyineda:
Osaze Odemwingie is my biggest disappointment so far. . .

My sentiments exactly.

I expected so much from Osaze but he failed massively. . . .
He was useless against Argentina - he squandered one of the very few chances we had by trying to be Messi.

Last night, he did nothing. He played like he didn't want to be on the pitch.
His distribution was nauseating and his general performance has been gash.

RuuDie:
super eagles or super nazis. . . . i care not! a bookable offense is a bookable offense - did cahill deserve a straight red against germany? no! but the germans benefitted from that, now they are on the receiving end; albeit correctly, live with it and quit moaning!

People just love arguing for the sake of it.
Any tackle from BEHIND is a yellow card. . . . . .Klose did it twice and was booked TWICE for it.
What is the INJUSTICE here?