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With that PSG midfield, I can confidently request for them. They are no threat at all.

Usb: Krasid, it's over again this season, let's give support to the basket ball team
Krasid: boss, with luck, we can still win the UCL
Usb: our players are prone to injury, we are going trophy-less for the second season
Krasid: no boss, we won pichichi last season and I am sure Ronaldo will score 40+ goals for us to win it again.

dmcdad:
I'd rather be beaten 10-1 and still win the treble than glory in beating a team 10-1 and go trophy-less.

Krasid doesn't care about going trophy-less sir as long as his idol scores 5 out of the 10 goals

This was what you said after you asked of what Iniesta can do that Lampard can't do better and nihilist replied you never to go that lane

hensben:
I respect iniesta though but some f.ools on here are making me to speak ill of him. I would've like to go there to know.

In conclusion, Lampard and iniesta are legends and I have regards for them.

hensben:
Point of correction my friend, I didn't support the topic rather I raised it and iniesta been termed unproductive was never part of my argument.

You did not support the topic after raising it and yet did not call those supporting it to order. That's not a quality of one man mopol.
Anyhow sha, let's just get over it since the truth has been established.

hensben:
Either you or someone else mentioned my moniker after ibime was busted by sleekdot. I was busy then so couldn't reply.

I tell una before I be one man mopol.

Hesben the one man mopol
You claimed you wanted to avenge the Hazard-Neymar debate on Barca fans, hence the reason for supporting the topic.
Or is there a new definition for one man mopol?
Well well, you have always proclaimed yourself as a Barca fan, you are still partially part of us and as such, there's no issue bro, it's all for the fun of it.

dmcdad:
Why your conscience dey judge you na? Sebod, anybody call names? No one called names about the follow-follow thingy. You are just feeling guilty so-to-say.

You be my guy no fear. Besides, lets leave the Iniesta or whoever argument. E never tire you?

dmcdad:
Abeg I no call names oooooo.

But haba, no be your guy again? You wan reject now wey him need you most?

Afrodoc is always available to help anyone that needs help. na my guy really, I just like the way e dey always push himself to a tight corner only to stylishly find a way of escape.

dmcdad:
Some people dey beg for mentions make them for use get more recognition. It ain't gonna work fella!

No mind that your guy, he's already feeling guilty for being a follow follow

dmcdad:
Who be that one bruv?

Your guy with un productivity stuff....

afrodoc2:
Lol case closed. Dayo Sneh don send 2 people to hospital in 1 day

When I told you your service would be needed, you didn't believe me.

Attention dmcdad!
Your guy has finally been exposed. Na only me just dey there dey laugh.

Nihilist:
I feel like crying for Bimffo and the rest of the unproductive brigade

So Ibime knew all these since?

Advocating a qualitative rather than quantitative comparison.

Ibime may God forgive you!

Amen!

Ibime:
You are very stewpid!!!

Iniesta went a year without no la liga goals and assists.

Dayokanu was trying to trap Airmark on a technicality by asking him to bet that Iniesta went a season without goal and assist.


Iniesta went goalless and assistless in LaLiga from March 2014 to April 2015.

That's why I was asking Dayo to bet on a year, not on a season.


Don't think because Dayo won a bet that Iniesta is now productive. He is still unproductive, Dayo just won a bet.

I knew you would result to insult and you did not disappoint.
I don't insult and would definitely not start with you.
When I called you out to tell us why your Lampard could not make any of his robust stats count on the biggest stages for his country, you avoided it. After all, you claimed Zidane won the world over with his heroics for his country and not about his clubs and I asked why Iniesta should be crucified for doing same for his country.
It's obvious you have a lot of followers here that look up to you and would take your word to the bank any time any day, stop feeding them with wrong info sir. Thank God there are still knowledgeable folks here that can always put you to check.

afrodoc2:
I can't help he is a wicked nigga. See how he pushed bimffo until that one jabo from bridge?
People go just come here dey yarn Ta Ta Ta all over the place to the level of betting money over what they ain't sure about. Time to pay up now "no network".
And I blame guys like you,ibime and the artist formerly known as Coogar . You guys will bring up arguments with your hidden agenda and some innocent unsuspecting folks here with more MB than footie knowledge will start supporting one side or the other.

The emboldened says it all!
Some guys here have so much belief in some and digest whatever they say hook, line and sinker without even making any attempt to verify how true their claims here.
Some just jumped in and were shouting Iniesta went a year without goals and assists, some shouted how unproductive he is all because their hero said so. One even jumped in and asked how Tores scored 38 goals in world without taking time to understand the post.
So many guys need treatment doc, we would appreciate if you could be of help

diggz:
Bros no vex abeg,na the reasons above naim make us say make we forget this talk.

I saw and bolded where u used the productivity of ronaldinhos dribbles against jjs, so can you tell us why u ain't supporting ibimes claim instead of sebod as regard iniesta?

Please try to include productivity this time. Thanks

Bros, if you have been following the debate from the start, you would see where your ibime claimed Zidane gained world's recognition for winning the world cup and Euro for France and not about his work at club level but crucified Iniesta for winning same international trophies for his country albeit his work at club level.
I even quoted his post and the page for your verification, but all you saw was Tores scoring 38 goals in world cup, an assertion I am still expecting you to correct to avoid misleading people. Regards!

AjanleKoko:
Since Chelsea is obviously not winning squat, they need something to cheer themselves up na

Hello bro, longest time. I guess you intentionally abandoned this thread.

dmcdad:
These EPL guys are just plain dummies. Sometimes you wonder what Chelsea fans smoke and you think they are the worse of the EPL lots. And lo and behold, Arsenal fans would come with stupidity rubbing all over them, and then you wonder which of them is more stupid and clueless.

I saw the guy who interpreted 38 international goals as 38 world cup goals and I just wondered why he is still breathing.

I already unfollowed them. Me making posts still is because of the mentions I get, and as soon as I respond I make sure I uncheck the 'follow thread' checkbox.

If you noticed, none of them countered my arguments over the Neymar and Hazard ish, rather they started saying it wasn't about Hazard in the first place even though they were still the ones who couldn't help but include the Neymar-Hazard comparisons as a criteria. You just begin to imagine what is wrong with those guys.

I just dey laugh them. After bringing the Neymar and Hazard comparison, and I dealt with it leaving out goals or assists, them change the story say it was all about Iniesta. Just imagine!

Also, none was able to answer my question as regards the fact that, if Lampard is not better than Zidane and/or Xavi albeit with far better stats than the pair, how come he is better than Iniesta because of the stats? So when it comes to Zidane and Xavi his stats won't count, but when it comes to Iniesta it will. Na wa ooooooo.

How can they counter obvious facts? They just have to find a way of moving away from it.
I asked your man guy to name the mediocre English players Lamps played with that stopped him from making any of his robust stats count when it mattered most for his country while the don was able to do it with the average players in his team. That's when I heard for the 1st time that Pique and Busquests are part of good players while only Valdez was the average one. It's such a funny thread where majority don't really know what football is all about while there are some very sound ones too.

dmcdad:
I just unfollowed that thread. Gosh!

Lampard is better and more productive than Iniesta because he poses better stats, but he is not better than Zidane and Xavi albeit with better stats over the pair. Jeez! What kinda hatred is this?!

El Illusionista. Make them no let Ray Hudson hear all those balderdash oooooo.

I have never stayed that long on the thread. I am glad there are still reasonable ones among them lecturing and correcting their wrong info
Imagine the follow follow guys who don't even know anything about football but to sit down and digest whatever their godfather tells them
Imagine the dude that interpreted 38 goals for country to 38 goals in world cup?
Imagine your guys that even rushed to claim Hazard is better in dribbling than Iniesta?
One aboki even claimed our very Mikel Obi would perform better than Iniesta?
The jokes are endless my brother. It can only be on Chelsea thread

nonsoroyalty:
is like u are a big fan of iniesta

It's not about being a fan of a player bro, it's all about being a football fan. Someone that enjoys the game and sees beyond just scoring and assisting. We all have our sentiments towards one thing or the other, but it's unacceptable and ridiculous when we allow our sentiments be cloud our sense of judgement. I have come to realise that there really exists some Chelsea fans who are also true fans of the game. One can't but give it to nihilist, griffon, siniza, sleekdot and co for their unbiased analysis on the topic. They truly admire quality and are shy to admit when they see it.

dmcdad:
Well said bruv. But walai you get time sha. You dey try oooooo. Na mainly waste of time.

Even god-Messi never get a standing ovation for Bernabéu, not even Cristiano, albeit Modric was once given that honour. Yet, the illusionista is just a passenger / an unproductive player.

You know I hardly get involved on issues like this. But, so many people have been misinformed by all these campaign of hatred and one has to remind them of some certain facts. Imagine someone saying I said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? What a funny world with so many funny people

diggz:
Oh! I get your point clearly.....but,I ain't buying it sorry.

That's good. Then you have to change the part that said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup. There's a difference between scoring 38 goals for Spain and scoring 38 goals in world cup. People don't have to be misinformed.

diggz:
In a bid to win arguements or make a point I see loads of people displaying heavy double standards but,wetin concern me? When person claim say fernadud score 38goals for world cup just to rubbish Rooney..... then to further buttress same point said, ronaldos 60plus goals compared to Suarez 25goals last season is inferior because saurez sabi draw map of Nigeria pass then I give up

Who said Tores scored 38 goals in world cup? It's obvious you didn't get the point and you could have asked for clarification rather than concluding.

Before the final against Manchester United in the UCL final, this was what the legendry SirAlex Ferguson said.
"I'm not obsessed with Messi, Iniesta is the danger. He's
fantastic. He makes the team work. The way he finds
passes, his movement and ability to create space is
incredible. He's so important for Barcelona."
And after the match, Waney Rooney quipped "Iniesta is the best player in the world"
And for the innocent ones who really don't know much about the don, just go to you tube and check Iniesta's performance in the latest el classico. Check his work rate, assist and goal and tell me the definition of vision and productivity. For Madrid fans to applaud a Barca player (their eternal enemy), there must be something special about him. Iniesta was the 1st player after Maradona in 1983 and Ronaldinho in 2005 to be applauded by Madrid fans after orchestrating their demolition.
Everyone has his favourites anytime any day. Down grading a player who has won it all all out of hatred is the height of hypocrisy.

hensben:
I respect iniesta though but some f.ools on here are making me to speak ill of him. I would've like to go there to know.

In conclusion, Lampard and iniesta are legends and I have regards for them.

You don't need to use any derogatory word on an issue like this bro, nobody has ever insulted you in the course of this debate.
You respect Iniesta, you don't need to join the bandwagons to pull him down because of some certain people. You could have as well stuck to your opinion about him rather than joining in tagging someone you respect unproductive just to gain some cheap points. After all, no one has ever killed you for holding on to your opinion about Hazard, so why do you have to shift the post here to negate your opinion. You are not a f00l and surely nobody is one. Learn to pass your message without insults. One luv bro!

When the captain of the best club in the world is vision less, indecisive and unproductive.
You can only get that on chelsea thread.....

Nihilist:
Bro lets not go there....

Lampard is our legend...let us just respect him as such

I have been trying hard to believe you are a Chelsea fan.
Hesben my common sense man, always saying anything just to prove a point

dmcdad:
Ohh... How I love you bruv! God bless you for this.

Thanks bro!

Danhumprey:
actually,it is funny and hypocritical how many barca fans are ready to bandy stat around when arguing about hazard's goal/assist output but when same stick(stat) is use to judge a barca player,they go hay-wire. it is pure hypocrisy!




stats do not tell the whole truth! alot of things happens in a football match that stats alone do not show/explain.



that aside,it is absolutely ridiculous and laughable to call iniesta 'unproduct'/waste of space/useless. there are things that players like iniesta do in a game that the camera/stats do not tell/show,just like busquet who many people underate.


before judging iniesta,we should pause to look at a range of criteria to judge him with. for one,the system at barca emphasise patience and no rush to create chances or score goals. the system emphasise choking and tiring out the opponents with ball possession.



if you watch barca games indepth,you will see that iniesta is like messi,both are able to create something out of nothing even in tight space. that why you see 4 or 5 opponents surrounding iniesta,man-marking him. and when iniesta attract such number of opponents to himself,he frees up the other players,keeping ready and alert to recieve thorough-balls to score goals or assist. he use his dribbles and trickery to create chances for his team mates,just like hazard. that is why i dont understand the hazard's hatred/dislike by barca fans.



lets be fair,if you cant use stat to judge iniesta,then in the same vein,you have no moral right to use stat to judge hazard. EOD!

There's is a huge difference between those that watch Iniesta play and those that only check out the highlights and stats. Thumbs up for your analysis as I rest my case. E0D!

hensben:
when I said England has average players also did I mention any of the above names in your comment huh. Are Villa, Xavi, Torres, Alonso, Ramos, casillas, alba, iniesta, Sylva, capdevilla average players? Btw, in my earlier comment I mentioned good and average players like bousquet, pique n Valdez. Common sense should tell you I meant Valdez is average while Sergio n pique are good. Remember we have good Better best in English language.

Mr Hesben the coomon sense!
I don't expect to see a vision less and unproductive nigga up there same as Alba.
And you never told us the players in the England starting 11 that were termed average in those years that stopped Lampard from making any of his robust stats help his team to any of the finals.

hensben:
I thought you said we shouldn't discuss lampard vs iniesta since they play in different league why bringing up Neymar vs hazard or you wan start your own huh.

Make I dey observe you first.

No sir, I would never be involved in such an argument again. I only tried to let you see what and what are expected from a player compared to CR7 and Messi that brought about the much heated argument of Hazard and Neymar. I wish you could get my point.

hensben:
At the emboldened, I just had to, as you can see it has yielded result.(if u know what I mean).
Valdez wasn't a starter for Spain, England has average players as well and they are not consistent with selection due to hype here an there unlike Spain over the years.

Ohhh you mean the likes of Rooney, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Gerard and co selected from the best clubs in a supposed best league were average? And why could Lampard that was productive not make one of his great stats count while Iniesta despite being unproductive in a team of average players could? Lampard would give up all his robust stats to score just a world cup winning goal sir!

Nihilist:
Riquelme is widely regarded as the greatest if not one of the greatest number 10s in the history of the game...he retired with 52 career assists. Zidane retired with 46.. The great Ronaldinho finished with 127 assists....incidentally the same number as Iniesta...except half of those were in lesser leagues sef...

Goddam unproductive niggas...

....and this is what same Riquelme had to say about the don.
"The one who plays this game the best is Iniesta: he
knows exactly when to go forward and when to drop
back. He picks the right moment to do everything:
when to dribble, when to speed things up and when to
slow things down. And I think that’s the only thing that
can’t be taught or bought. You can learn how to shoot
and how to control the ball, but being aware of
everything that’s happening out on the pitch – that’s
something you’re either born with or your not"