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hensben:
I respect iniesta though but some f.ools on here are making me to speak ill of him. I would've like to go there to know.

In conclusion, Lampard and iniesta are legends and I have regards for them.

Nihilist:
Bro lets not go there....

Lampard is our legend...let us just respect him as such

dmcdad:
Ohh... How I love you bruv! God bless you for this.

Danhumprey:
actually,it is funny and hypocritical how many barca fans are ready to bandy stat around when arguing about hazard's goal/assist output but when same stick(stat) is use to judge a barca player,they go hay-wire. it is pure hypocrisy!




stats do not tell the whole truth! alot of things happens in a football match that stats alone do not show/explain.



that aside,it is absolutely ridiculous and laughable to call iniesta 'unproduct'/waste of space/useless. there are things that players like iniesta do in a game that the camera/stats do not tell/show,just like busquet who many people underate.


before judging iniesta,we should pause to look at a range of criteria to judge him with. for one,the system at barca emphasise patience and no rush to create chances or score goals. the system emphasise choking and tiring out the opponents with ball possession.



if you watch barca games indepth,you will see that iniesta is like messi,both are able to create something out of nothing even in tight space. that why you see 4 or 5 opponents surrounding iniesta,man-marking him. and when iniesta attract such number of opponents to himself,he frees up the other players,keeping ready and alert to recieve thorough-balls to score goals or assist. he use his dribbles and trickery to create chances for his team mates,just like hazard. that is why i dont understand the hazard's hatred/dislike by barca fans.



lets be fair,if you cant use stat to judge iniesta,then in the same vein,you have no moral right to use stat to judge hazard. EOD!

hensben:
when I said England has average players also did I mention any of the above names in your comment huh. Are Villa, Xavi, Torres, Alonso, Ramos, casillas, alba, iniesta, Sylva, capdevilla average players? Btw, in my earlier comment I mentioned good and average players like bousquet, pique n Valdez. Common sense should tell you I meant Valdez is average while Sergio n pique are good. Remember we have good Better best in English language.

hensben:
I thought you said we shouldn't discuss lampard vs iniesta since they play in different league why bringing up Neymar vs hazard or you wan start your own huh.

Make I dey observe you first.

hensben:
At the emboldened, I just had to, as you can see it has yielded result.(if u know what I mean).
Valdez wasn't a starter for Spain, England has average players as well and they are not consistent with selection due to hype here an there unlike Spain over the years.

Nihilist:
Riquelme is widely regarded as the greatest if not one of the greatest number 10s in the history of the game...he retired with 52 career assists. Zidane retired with 46.. The great Ronaldinho finished with 127 assists....incidentally the same number as Iniesta...except half of those were in lesser leagues sef...

Goddam unproductive niggas...

diggz:
@ sebod

Kindly explain how fernandud torres 38goals won the world cup for Spain? And,I don't even want to bother about fernadud contributions in winning european medals.

Pls we should not open another discuss on ronaldo n Suarez or torres and Rooney on this thread plssssss.......!

hensben:
bro na same question I dey ask. Anti-Chelsea/hazard's logic= Neymar>hazard due to stat ignoring the fact that they in different league, formation, position, tactics and club. Now story change when I mentioned lampard>iniesta since football is all about stat according to them. Lol

I call them awon sentimental wereys.

hensben:
Bro you fall my hand for this long epistle wey you drop. Team win trophies in game of football. If you disagree with my above sentence then explain to us how Torres 38 goals won WC and Europe for Spain? If he was the keeper that saved one on one with Robben or the defender that cleared so many dangerous balls or is it possible he assisted himself with the goal, same question in iniesta's case. ronney was a good player but overrated by English media since na their son and he is currently enjoy that dividend with his huge weekly salary. That aside, I am not a fan of stats because it doesn't tell the whole story of players in a match, one of the reasons I still tell anti-hazard/Chelsea on here that hazard is a quality player( zidane of all people know this too). But this anti-Chelsea/hazard keep/kept throwing stats at hazard simply because Neymar, who plays for Barcelona in LA LIGA, as a striker in 4-3-3 formation,scored 40 goals plus for that reason is better than hazard. Which made me to raised lampard vs iniesta argument since it's about stats for anti-Chelsea/hazard on here. Most times, even team glory and play make some average/good players in the squad look like beast. E.g, Valdez, pique, Sergio bousquet.

ollah1:
Perfectly said. U will still be quoted wrongly tho. Watch this space

Nihilist:
I personally just get irritated when people bandy stats about without understanding what football is about.

Barca don't throw through balls about upandan. They are very patient with the ball. Often times, the ball goes through a long sequence of passes before it finds its way into the net. There's no rush to 'create chances'. The chances will come

What Iniesta and Xavi do..is control the tempo.

I'm sure many of you here will remember how Ibime was shouting how wanted Schweinsteiger back in the day...that's a man who used to average 4 league assists per season.

Will Ibime say he was vociferously advocating for an 'unproductive nigga'?

I mean come on...between 2010 and 2015 Pirlo registered 13 league assists on one occasion...the rest of the time he was averaging 4-5 assists per season

Of course, they will tell you that it was a deep position blah blah...but the fact of the matter is...most of the time players like Iniesta and co are not the ones that release the final ball.

They control the game and assist the assister.

I find it extremely idiotic that anybody will look at the highly decorated captain of the greatest club football team ever...and say he is unproductive

The only people allowed to say that are lobotomised zombies or people who don't understand football.

mcdreeezy:
Suarez has finally broken the padlock. The door is now open and from here henceforth, the golazos shall flow like milk and honey.

ElCule:
Today is my birthday.


A convincing win away to eiber will be a birthday gift from my darling FcB.

Krasid:
DID YOU KNOW that Barcelona have a 0.5 penalty conversion rate this season(18 played, 9 missed).A Barca vs Madrid UCL final decided on PK's would be a dream.

dmcdad:
I feel the pichichi ain't gonna save him this time around. Especially with the Euro 2016 in the summer. I feel his performance in that tournament will more or less determine his inclusion and not pichichi. And of course I don't see Portugal going anywhere.

bykebyke:
The only reason I am concerned about this Pichichi is because I need MSN on the podium in the next Ballon D'or ceremony,If Cristina fails to win the Pichichi,then its certain that he will not be among the top3..if he wins it..

ddippset:
Ronaldo just scored 4, real madrid just scored 7 goals. Still the real madrid thread is like a ghost yard. Why is nobody happy over there? At least real madrid football club gets the pichichi trophy again this season na!

pelvicky:
who remember this iniesta run against PSG


one word. . unproductive nigga

dmcdad:
Sebod I sight you...

Na sidon look I dey oooooo. The matter tire me for here.

FBS:
Again, I'm not jumping into arguments but how can a player be GREAT yet UNPRODUCTIVE? Just asking?

dmcdad:
^^^^^^^ An opportunity of a lifetime. He would have something worthy to say to his kids when he encountered the G.O.A.T

sinizia:
I don't mean to intrude, but did Ibime really said about Iniesta? The genius of Barca or another Iniesta we don't know of?

homesteady:
I've said it here before, nobody should put hope on Suarez winning Pichichi.

Decale:
Messi gives out pks that won't affect the outcome of the game. That's the team spirit, to increase the MSN's goal tally. I see nothing wrong with that, the only problem is for them to train themselves on the art of penalty taking.

Messi won't give it out if the team is ahead by a lone goal or behind. That's why the team is how it is, unselfish and a model for other European clubs to emulate.

ollah1:
Who missed the pen? I'm not watching