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Funny enough banana island look just like my average neighbourhood in Doha. Nigeria and mediocrity no be here. Wat Nigeria's richest ppl enjoy is wat average ppl in other countries enjoy.
Smh

This is pearl qatar...equivalent of banana island. Where rich ppl live in doha

PAGAN9JA:
people like you are the reasons for our problems today . you know what you practice is wrong yet you do it. This is called slavery.

huh?

Unam Sanctam Catholicam et Apostolicam Ecclesiam

One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church

Afonja people are so lame. I see why the hausas like u ppl. U are so easy to manipulate. Aboki knows that Igbo is a con man...he cant try to con a con man. But yoruba ppl are so easily used by aboki...because u lots are just lame

Fuckster565:
The truth is how many abokis will participate in this useless poll.

I laugh

The fact that u guys know that Buhari support base is mostly uneducated northerners shows that u are well aware that he is a wrong choice...for its a known fact that uneducated ppl make choices based on primitive reasons like tribe and religion. Most dont support Buhari because of the good of Nigeria

HtwoOw:
BF products are the ones who hate Buhari ,

But he no consyn me , Jonathan won the polls online

ur people are holding this country down. U all hate progress

spyder880:
Life history, schools attended, positions held before now?

How is he better than Chukwuka Utazi?

Abeg ask am o. Maybe na APC People

Yyeske:
So shameful to you that the 'minority' is having the say.

Yes it is shameful. The minority are the politicians who are yet to see the handwriting on the wall. In my research i noticed that all who have ever told me no biafra are either in active politics or living in north or west

Lagos alone has more Igbos than any Igbo speaking state, why are they not returning back here since they and others in the rest of Nigeria count among the 'silent majority'?

Lagos cannot have more igbos than anyother igbo speaking state. Thats just ur random statistcs...not fact based. However i know for a fact that many most igbo traders in lagos are supporting biafra. Check the last sit-at-home compliance in igbo dominated markets.

Remember another Biafran separatist group had urged all Biafrans to move to Biafraland before 30th May. I know you are one of those outside Biafraland and finding it difficult to move back

Yes i am outside biafra land..but not in nigeria. I just finished my first house in a city in biafraland...waiting on God to bless me to start another...still in Biafraland Igboland. What u dont know is that b4 Nnamdi kanu, i was one of those igbos who carry one Nigeria for head like gala. I had dreams of building a house in Abuja. The biafra movement changed me. It changed so many Igbos

Yyeske:
What progress have you and your IPOB being making towards the actualization of Biafra?
Sick and tired of all this online rants everyday.

they dont make much progress because of nay sayers like u...who happen to be a powerful minority

Ikechukwu12:
First of all, please change your narrative about me. I'm oshmili, not ika.
secondly there are ikas that say they aren't igbo while there are ikas that says they are. Go to Agbor, you'll more likely find Igbo deniers there while if you head to igbodo or even umunede, but especially in igbodo. you'll more likely find ikas that says they are igbo. It all depends on who you meet. Like that musician, wizboy, is ika but very few people are aware of it because he sees himself as igbo. It just depends on who you meet. Unfortunately, SE Igbos focus their attention on ikas that are deniers and ignore those that aren't. Also, most Anioma do not have the interest or energy arguing with SE Igbos on whether we are Igbo or not. The only ones that does by the looks of it are usually the deniers. To me, they are the embarrassment of our community and sadly, they are the most vocal.

ok bro. Ps...i never said u were ika. Am just asking u about the ikas

Throwback:
I keep reading your own words and only marvel at your ignorance.

How can you cede a city to a people who have always owned it, never lost it and decided its progress?

Murtala Mohammed initiated the moves in 1976 that resulted in the Abuja federal capital in 1990, so how did Lagos cease being a federal capital after the war that long ended at 1970?

So why did you not show me that the capital being moved to Abuja from Lagos was a loss for the West?

And you claim that oil being a national asset that allows only 13% derivation for the host states that are not Igbo, was a gain for the North and West, but not a gain for the SouthEast that is still struggling to produce more oil than Ondo in the SouthWest?

I acknowledge the loss of the SouthSouth states when it comes to oil revenue matters, stop forcing yourself into a group you do not belong. If the SouthEast lost anything, it only lost what never belonged to it to begin with.

If I remember correctly, the ethnically heterogeneous Eastern Region that existed then was majorly producing oil from Ijaw land. Ijaw land was in the East, while Itsekiri land that also produced oil was in the West but to later become the regionally independent MidWest.

The Ijaws in the East were already opposed to using their natural resources of crude oil to develop Enugu that was Igboland. When the Ijaw Adaka Boro led a secessionist uprising to secure Ijaw oil for the separatist NigerDelta republic, an Igbo Aguiyi Ironsi and Emeka Ojukwu, as Military President and regional governor respectively, ensured such demand for freedom and emancipation by the oil owning Ijaws was crushed by military might.

So if Nigeria eventually gave autonomy to such oil bearing regions that are not Igbos, then I can accept that it was truly your loss but the gain of those who owned the oil.

What you were left with was the federal allocation funded by such oil proceeds that you did not own, just as the West and North got same federal allocation while not owning oil resources just as the SouthEast didn't own either. For that, you should be thankful and not cry that you are marginalized over oil that was not your own.

You never hear the SouthWest cry marginalization over the oil producing MidWest that was cut out of it by the Eastern and Northern alliance that dictated the government of the 1st republic.

Now that you have your oil in your Igbo Imo and Abia, Just as the Yorubas have in their Ondo and Lagos, Igbos are still having regrets over the independence the Eastern NigerDelta got from the Eastern region.

Do you see or hear Yorubas exhibit any regret over the independence the Western NigerDelta (Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijaw, Bini, Esan, Anioma, Isoko) got from the Western region?

If you miss that oil income that Adaka Boro regretted the Igbos were using to develop Enugu to the detriment of Ijaw land, don't you think the SouthWest should also be missing the oil income that accrued to Delta and Edo states?

Yet we are satisfied with just federal allocation, but you want oil income that is not yours and that is now rightly beneficial to those who truly own the oil. Whether they be non-Igbo or Igboid of the NigerDelta.

For the sake of those who own the naturally occuring oil by no effort of their own, their loss is truly Nigeria's gain, but they still have a derivation of 13%. A policy that affects states in the NigerDelta, and the more resent states in the SouthWest and SouthEast.

u didnt answer my questions. Igbos signed up for the 1960 constitution. Today we use the 1979 constitution that igbos were not part of its formation. The mid west left the west in a constitutional referandum. The eastern region was carved up as it suited the north and west...without input from stake holders who were at war.
Why didnt the capital move to north in a constitutional manner prior to the war. Or heck why did it move to north? Why not move to east or calabar? It moved unconstitutionally to the benefit of the caliphate.

Then answer wat the old eastern region or igbos have gained...that we didnt have b4 the war...in the nigeria we signed up for

Ikechukwu12:
I don't get the reason for this thread? Did any Anioma that partook in the last sit at home tell you they wouldn't? Since we partook in the last one, what makes you think we wouldn't this time around. Please tell us your reason.

Secondly, stop insulting Anioma. Ika does not equal the entire Anioma. Ika is a small aspect of Anioma and they aren't even the good side so the f2k? Please stop insulting us. You have Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and Oshmili. So what makes you think the entire Anioma is Ika? When someone is correcting you, listen to it and stop arguing senselessly. Thank you

thanks for the correction. Why do the ikas say they are not igbo? Is it based on facts or conjecture. I wanna know this. Cos if its about language..i can tell u that even we in the se dont all speak wen native igbo. I dont hear abriba igbo in abia state....or abakaliki igbo, yet they are all igbos. Also our culture and orgin in se also differ...yet we are all igbo

princetigris:
you cannot tell me about my people. Agbor, umunede, ekuoma, ite-ogbeje, abavo and so many are called ika's. From isheagu to ogwashi-ukwu to isele-ukwu and mpkitime to the ezechime tribe of onicha-ugbo, idumuje unit and ugboko are called aniocha. .
The oshimili people consist of Asaba, okwe, oko(anala, ngbele e.t.c), Ibusa, ebu, akuku-ibo, ugbolu, okpanam and so on.
Finally the Ndokwa's which are the Ossissa, kwale, ebedei, Abbi, aboh, iselegu, umutu and so.
The ika language is called asusu-ika, and the Ndokwa's speak Ukwuani language. Note: the aniocha language is almost similar with that of the oshimili but have slight difference.
An average aniocha/oshimili man, including the Ndokwa man hardly understands the Ika language. And also the Ika man and the aniocha/oshimili man hardly understand the Ukwuani language.
So my brother the difference much.

I laugh at u ss igbos and how naive u guys are. And how the enemy was successfuly able to use u guys. I am from udi in enugu state and if i speak my real udi language, an Ngwa man from abia wont understand it and vice verser. Does that make us different tribes? Every igbo clan has a distinct language but we are all igbo because names are similar. In SE they teach a central igbo in schools..but u guys refuse to learn it..because of oil politics.

Let me quickly ask u. Wat has the igbos from se ever don to u? Compare that (if any) with wat u igbos from ss have done to us. Call the results.

Then compare that with wat the north and west (whose tune u are dancing now by refusing ur ethnicity) has done to both of us. Call the results again.

U guys really were easily used to get to us and worst is that it was the action of one of ur sons from delta state that led to the ostrasizing of the igbos

Yyeske:
You ain't even sure that the sit at home will take place in Anambra this time, you are already worked up getting across the Niger. Remember your boast about Anambra guber election last year.
I've told you several times that your recruitment strategy on Nairaland won't work as long as I'm here.

well its working on me at least. And u can eat my àss if u dont like. Igbo solidarity must go on with or without sell outs

Throwback:
Ahmadu Bello never cared about Nigeria, hence his decision to remain in the regional space to remain as premier and rather allow his deputy party leader Tafawa Balewa to proceed to the federal parliament and eventually become Prime Minister. Unlike Awolowo and Azikiwe, who like Bello were also pioneering regional premiers but had federal ambitions that bello never cared for.

Whatever policy he enacted for the good of his own region is apt if it serves the people and purpose of that region. No one dictated policy to the West or East, so no reason why anyone should dictate to the North what should be best and accommodating for migrants of other regions who had already fully occupied their own regional space and jobs before looking outside.

So indeed, I have no problem with what a regional premier that is well known to accommodate the culturally and religiously diverse tribes of his enclave, initiated for the benefit of his own region. Later history has already taught us that even within the same homogeneous ethnicity and religion, some states will lay off workers just because they are from a different state, while the other state too reply with same intra-tribal discrimination.

That you too bemoan that Northenization policy for its North first agenda, only suggest that I am right to say you Igbos left your own region having found the opportunities there limiting, and voluntarily proceeded to the greater land spaces Nigeria afforded you to make a better living. A Nigeria that was yet to "marginalize" Igbos as you all love to wail and whine about.

As for the oil and gas that has so much benefited Nigeria, most of it has remained outside of whatever you chose to call Alaigbo. For what you call Alaigbo, I could also mention the Yoruboid Itsekiris who have been commercially producing oil long before any Alaigbo tribe. If you mention Imo and Abia oil, then you should remember that Ondo has also been producing more oil than those 2 SouthEast states combined, and Lagos is now producing too.


I am not asking you to be grateful without reason, I am telling you to stop denigrating and disrespecting the places you found economic refuge for yourselves, for which you now try to claim you were forced to migrate because your own region under your control was denied development.

I am also telling you to remember what made your tribe depart the tribal enclave on an economic sojourn, as you now clamour to bring the lost sheep back into the same enclave they voluntarily departed and continue to flee from till today. Remember your economic condition when you dreamed of a life outside, and your economic condition now that you arrogantly claim and regret that you have developed a foreign place you arrived with no penny in your pocket, so you want to now return home to develop your origins.

Remember that the star that does not remain in the sky will only drop to the Earth and turn into dust, while the sky will ever remain shining with newer stars.

I keep reading ur words and see the evil u try to propagate. However i will tell u these facts.

1. The Igbos signed up for the contents of the 1960/63 constitutions. Nothing more.

2. The igbos never trauncated the 1960 constitution as u all love to write. That was done by the Gowon/Murtala/Obasanjo regime which replaced the regions with states they created without Igbo input and replaced the 1960 parliamentry constitution with the 1979 constitution also without Igbo input. They did it in a way it would favour them. (North and west gain, east loss)
P.s Ironsi's decree 34 was not meant to be carried over to a civil constitution. It was meant to give his military junta control over the regional military governors. But the roaches still made it civil law. Even after agreeing with ojukwu at Aburi for a confederation

3. Before the war, the eastern region had 50% ownership of their oil. After the war and without their input, it was reduced to 13% (north and west gain, east loss)

4. Before the war, lagos belonged to all Nigeria as a federal district. After the war, it was ceded to the yorubas. (West gain)

5. Before the war, igbos owned and mined coal in Enugu. After the war coal became fg's property and was left to rot in favour of oil. (East loss)

6. Without input of Igbos, Gowon moved Nigeria's capital to his region...the north. (North gain)

7. In sharing oil revenue, igbos got 5 states while the rest of Nigeria got 6...whith the caliphate getting 7 states. (East loss)

Pls tell me what Igbos gained in the economic and political activity that happened in Nigeria after the war. I have showed u wat u lots gained.

Xander85

divicoded:
biaffrauud
They cannot even co-ordiante themselves internally and see them shouting woof on Headies award
yeye republic
banana republic of biafrauud

I laugh wen i see cheap shots like this from skull mining demons

Aboki go allow Nigeria to develope?

flyca:
Make a list of first-twenty countries and Nigeria will still not be there.

A few weeks ago, Rwandan Airlines landed in Colorado!
Rwanda. Rwanda. Rwanda of 1994 genocide o
I'm surprised that they are not on the list, but the country is striving hard.

Ethiopia is another progressive country. Their fashion industry is top-notching.
Also to celebrate women's day 2018, Ethiopian Airlines flew an all women's flight - pilots, cabin crew were all women!

These are the Real African Giants!

Una don kill this firgemachar guy

Xander85:
Looks like you're just looking for an argument just for the heck of it! Ask any neutral today who the most daring and most widely travelled group in Nigeria are and chances are 8 times out of 10 you'd come up with Igbo as the answer!

Because of our daring, independent, republican and mercantile nature, Igbos are not afraid to seek out new challenges, new opportunities or to broaden their horizon. This stands in stark contrast to those who generally chose to be insular and preferred to play it safe by sticking to already known and defined borders (remember you accused only Ndigbo of travelling, so don't blame me for the assertion made in this paragraph).

Because of their republican and democratic society, during the period of the empires Igbo interaction with her neighbours was more by way of trade, whereas for others at the time it was more by way of conquest to expand their empires. The Sokoto Caliphate, Oyo Empire and Benin Empire were examples of such. If Ndigbo had been interested in territorial conquest and expansion, it's most likely you'd not have had the many other languages in the south Eastern part of Nigeria as you have today...they'd all probably be speaking Igbo like you have in the western part (minus Edo and Delta states) where they all speak Yoruba. If you check the old map of the Oyo Empire you'd see it stretched into present day kwara and Kogi states...hence the Yoruba influence and Yoruba speaking groups. Same influence can be found in the way almost all the northern part of Nigeria speaks Hausa, due to the influence of the Sokoto Caliphate and the later Sokoto Oligarchy.

So what i'm saying is that the Igbo, even though they are a widely travelled people, had a different kind of relationship with her neighbours than was the case with the other big two.

Another daring and widely travelled people were the British, Spanish, Portuguese and the Germans. You can't say their travels were borne out of a serious case of inferiority complex can you?

You mentioned the dates 1914 to 1940. I don't know why you chose that particular period, but any noticeable spike in the emigration of Igbo to other parts of Nigeria during this period would be as a consequence of the interplay of two factors: 1) the daring, mercantile and independent-minded nature of Ndigbo; 2) and the coming into being of Nigeria (first Southern Nigeria and then the amalgamation of the two protectorates in 1914 by Lugard). Remember that at the time Lagos had the gravitational pull both for administrative and political purposes, and it says something that a people can travel from so far and still be able to make their mark in a far off place like Lagos was at the time. Same scenario played out after 1914 in the North when the Igbo were found there in their numbers playing key roles aiding the British colonials in their administration of the region. Both Zik and Ikemba were born in Zungeru. I hope you remember the part Zungeru played during the Norths colonial period?

the thing u have to know about the dude Throwback is that he is the perfect definition of an Igbo hater. And what makes it worst is that he seems educated....so he can throw big words around and promote lies that ppl use as truths.

B4 the coming of the whiteman Aba and onitsha were already big cities. Iron works, palm produce, slaves, artifacts and livestock were all sold in these big cities. Ppl migrated from ibibio and ejeagham into these cities to be part of the trade.

The hausas were also coming down south ward...they gave our merchants horses and cows in exchange for slaves and iron weapons...we never went up north at the time...until the game changed and we all became one country.

The fg has denied igbos things like international airports, good federal highways and a friendly police (like u have in the north)

I am a christian through and through...a catholic...but I see sense in what the op is saying. Religion and culture are tied together. It will be conflicting if ur religion and ur culture are dissimilar. U will end up contradicting urself. Africa is today majorly christian or muslim. These 2 religions are alien to our cultures. That is why u can see that there is peace in saudi arabia. No terrorism in all of the Real Arab world (saudi, oman, qatar, uae, kuwait). That is why u cannot see extreemly rich pastors in europe.
The richest pastors in the world today are found in poor nigeria. All other muslim countries apart from the real arabs and maybe malaysia are battling terror

cronsberg:
you forgot that the constant harrasment of the fulanis by all these tribes will also unite all the fulanis to jointly fight a common united enemy, and by then you will know what feeling the heat means, cuz beleive me only a small fraction of herdsmen fulani are fighting now. You will not want to experience what a united fulani unslaught will look like. And you know what, let all the tribes unite against us if they like, it wont mean shiiittt. The north is ours you know, we can easily also chase you out of the north, and btw the word among herdsmen now is since there should be no cattle herding, no farming also. So lets see how it goes

see this kid...i think the social media is starting to get into ur head abi? If i catch u one on one u go know say u be small pikin. If a war between only fulani and only igbos erupt in this country without 3rd party involvment..na that time u go know say we been pass una tey tey... keep riding on the euphoria of civil war that was fought mostly by middle beltans and yorubas. Can u name one fulani commander during the war?
U are best in killing defenceless ppl. U come to a village at night and start shooting kids and women. Cowards

Obi1kenobi:
Those Fulani men clearly didn't come for a fight. That's why the locals were filling fly "chasing" the Fulani people back. There are clearly many genuine, peaceful herdsmen, probably like these ones, that are different from the murderous bandits terrorizing many areas in the country.

it serves to teach them that they are no longer welcomed by their fellow Nigerians. The fulanis will one day unite the entire south and middle belt against them

Temple1288:
Surpass who?

You mean Ebuka or Frank Edoho would actually surpass Steve Harvey or Michael Strahan if they get into America, right?

lol...we cant surpass them in entertainment in their own country...entertainment is cultural. We surpass them in median family income and education. Google it bro

Them roast am walahi....these Black Americans aint got love for Africans honestly...

But then we seem to surpass them once we get in to America

Emilokoiyawon:
Bisi is Yoruba name. The Yoruba blood in him is responsible for his engineering brilliance.

Yoruba Amaka

lol....his name is Ndubuisi...shortened to bisi in America...his two parents are pure igbos

Wasting money....govt shouldnt be involved with graffitis. If u wanna beautify lagos, keep building neat roads. Dismantle shanties and old dirty buildings.

Forget graffittis...they are for gang neighbourhoods

This is just another mumu thread. The MOD that moved it to front page is very smart.

O boy...wat u are telling us is boring...u know the type of info the ppl who came into this thread are seeking and u are here telling us ashewo business

In 10 yrs time when u look at this thread, u will see how childish it was

Roger3D:
We will continue to put you in your place

For now. For how long...I cannot say. Soon the Niger Delta region will wake up....the middle belt also. Soon yoruba and hausa will be put in their place...so that they can see how it feels... i blame mumu gej tho

Roger3D:
You evil Greedy tribe, it will be a cold day in hell before any other ethnic group associates with you

of course we are greedy. Its a good thing that greed is what ppl associate with us....not unnessesary violence, abject poverty and illiteracy like the north... nor diabolic, fetish, dirty, two-faced and cowardly like the west.

America is also accused often of greed...we are in good company...wat else will u say?

Ovamboland:
See high level delusion, how do you achieve all the above without changing the Federal Constitution?

On one hand you want an igbo nation, on the other hand you want to incorporate some non igbo nation into your dream land. The non igbo nations you want are only those who have oil deposit.
And you think people won't see through your greed and deceit?
If you believe so much in a small and homogeneous entity, the last thing you would consider is adding other cultures that are alien. You simply exposed the main motivation for the Biafra adventure is greed before anything else.

lol...dont worry, we Igbos have very little oil. We intend to like every other Nigerian tribe milk the Niger Delta of the oil within one Nigeria...since we know that achieving Biafra now will not be realistic. We would however keep the Biafran dream alive. When oil finishes or becomes obsolete and the Niger Delta region become irrelevant and highly poluted then the Biafra project will intensify.
By that time, the tribes of ND will willingly want to go with us.

mikolo80:
define transform enugu

I cant even understand why u quoted me or wat the hell u were talking about

mikolo80:
what asset
once the drums pf war beat money will be changed and naira will be useless.ibo don,t sell thei land so....nothing to lose
glo base stations will be shtdown and useless to you