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[quote author=WS. Smith].[/quote]If you are not a Christian who reads the bible as such, it makes sense that your "long" story above makes no sense. That goes for many people on NL who are quick to mis-quote and shout out all the negatives of the bible. Your ignorance about Christianity and bible is clear for all to see.

God is who He is.

Whether you believe it or not , whether you accept it or not. it doesn't change the fact that God remains God. He is still God. If you don't know it now, you will know it by the end of this year. This is a guarantee.

The only solution to this constant embarrassment of Nigerian citizens is to sort out Nigeria. Every country is tired of Niger people and their wahala and crime!

Freiburger:

My prayer is that you one day eat your words when these armed robbers visit you and give you a special personal service.

tribalism: Your English Language is a potential armed language robbery suspect. Jungle justice next.

My prayer is that you one day eat your words when these armed robbers visit you and close your mouth forever.

COOLDUN: I support your point 1000% and joined you in praying for all these Armed Robbers/Criminals human rights campaigners on this nairaland to be the next victims of the armed Robbers and other criminal related activities this night. Let them then capture the Armed Robbers and treat them well, in order to show an example to the Nigerian angry mobs, they accuse of being barbaric. Poverty have entered so many Nigerians’ brains, that is why they are always confused in their statements. We are crying of corruption in the system today, but we forget that many of your legislooters and lawbreakers in NASS, are former/present ly Armed Robbers, sponsors. And protectors. For jungle justice to stop, criminality should stop first. Those who oppose jungle justice should carry out an ANTI CRIME Campaign, those of you the armed robbers on nairaland forum, I advise you guys to stop crime or die in the hands of the angry mobs. The choice is yours now.

Please pray not only for the robbers on NL but also those who buy stolen goods. They are just as bad as the robbers. If there is nowhere to sell the stolen goods, then it would not pay for them to steal these things in the first place.

poweredcom: Omo the bible is just a piece of best seller jare its partially correct because its has been adultrated and its not complete - so how do you call an incomplete book a sacred book

Its adultration has nothing to do with its divine nature or sacredness.

The phrase biblia sacra (holy books) first appeared sometime in the Middle Ages. In English, one of the earliest—if not the earliest—uses of “The Holy Bible” appeared in 1611 on the cover of the Authorized Version, known in the U.S. as the King James Version. The word holy has several meanings, and, all of them describe the Word of God.

One meaning of holy is “sacred, sanctified, hallowed.” When God spoke to Moses at the burning bush, He commanded Moses to remove his sandals because he was standing on holy ground. This was ground made holy by God’s presence. Because God is sacred, the words He speaks are also sacred, and sinful men such as Moses must be mindful of God’s holiness.

The Bible is called the Holy Book because it is the inspired Word of God and God is holy. (Also the Holy Word of God)

rhymz: hahahahah. . .that is the excuse christians use when there is an obvious irreconcilable BULLSHYT that can't be explained. . . Who da Bleep is holyspirit? A mental invention I guess.

Really!!! You will understand one of these days hopefully before its too late.

Sincere Bible believing Christians would understand who the Holy Spirit is.

Kamxin: The catholic church have the holy spirit(Jn 16:12-13), thats why writing and interpreting our works is possible. Let dis be clear any written works by humans is an intellectual property, and so the issue of copyright is coming into play. Thats why you can't remove a single word from the koran (pirating) legally because it is a violation of copyright.

This is the BIBLE not Koran.

The documents of the Bible were not received in some trance-like state of the people who wrote them down. Nor is the Bible of the same form as, for instance, the Koran or the Book of Mormon. Moslems believe that the Koran was given directly from God without human intervention. Mormons believe their Book was copied straight from miraculous golden plates given by God.

The Bible consists of documents written by human beings. Christians believe that God used, but in no way distorted, the real-life characters of the writers in recording what they wrote. But God so guided the writers that what is written is what God has inspired to be written. Hence, for example, there are four eyewitness accounts of the life of Jesus Christ in the New Testament which record some of the same events with details that the writer himself saw or was impressed by that others do not record. Otherwise some record events that the others do not.

The documents of the whole Bible consist of real-life historical accounts, law books, poetry, wisdom writings, prophecies, eye witness accounts and letters. The whole Bible was written and compiled over a period of about 1,200 years. The authors of the documents were from varied backgrounds including statesmen, historians, leaders, prophets - who were priests, shepherds and farmers; governors, kings, a tax collector, a physician, a business man, a fisherman, and a theologically trained academic.

Most of these people never met and yet there is a fundamental unity about the whole Bible. This is most remarkable and very compelling, and leads to the conclusion that the Bible is much more than just a human document.

charlsecy4: Though collections of sacred writings, varying in extent, existed in the various local Churches of Christendom, the canon or official list of Scripture was only compiled by the Church toward the end of the fourth century—at Hippo in 393, Carthage in 397, whence it was sent to Rome for confirmation in 419. The Bible may be called the notebook of the Church, and she has always claimed to be the guardian, exponent, and interpreter of it. . . .

By these Councils, the Bible we see today came into be. These Councils are Catholic. How do we know? Well, St. Ignatius of Antioch called the Christian Church Catholic. Let me quote him, "Where there is Jesus Christ, there is the Catholic Church."

The OT that was approved by the Church was the Septuagint the Greek translation of the OT. The Bible later on was translated into Latin by St. Jerome. The Latin Vulgate was its name. It included the deutronacanonical books, like Tobit, Maccebees 1 and 2, etc.

It was not until the Reformation that Protestants remove those books. The books which early Christians have read.

Story! Story! unless you were there personally to verify it. You are just quoting what is all over the net. What does compilation have to do with invididual interpretation?

k2039: So the bible writers were catholic,David who wrote Psalm was a catholic or Job who wrote the book of Job was a catholic.
Your claim is laughable.

I agree with you poster because a lot of people don't actually READ the bible. They just follow the rumours and don't have a personal relationship with God so they lack understanding apart from what they are told by their pastor in church.

vandarsar: Ever noticed most of the bible we're reading in English and other languages apart from Hebrews have lost their true meaning? Hebrew is the correct interpretation of the holy bible, the rest has been manipulated to reflect each denomination beliefs and doctrines and to suit the kinda life style we living nowadays..... I mean whats the meaning of "Youth bible"? "Contemporary english bible"? etc.

The question is not asking about the different kinds of bible translations? It asking about the individual text in the Bible.

k2039: So the bible writers were catholic,David who wrote Psalm was a catholic or Job who wrote the book of Job was a catholic.
Your claim is laughable.

Me am baffled by this o? There is no mention of catholic owning the copyright in the bible.

How can someone own God? You need to own God and the Holy Spirit to be able to say you own the Bible.

tevinsolt: every verse should be interpreted in contest, every chapter should be interpreted in light of the ones that precedes it and the ones that are after it.

Exactly my point!

charlsecy4: I think it's the Catholic Church that complied the first Bible! If not for the Catholic Church, 95% of the world would have been Muslim.

Sorry, your comments deserves a basic bible study lesson even if its on NL.

Who Wrote the Holy Bible? The short answer is the Holy Spirit.

This is the answer the Bible gives, and it is also a confessional answer for Christians. This is also the reason why it is called the Holy Bible, the source is divine.

The more involved answer is that various men (and perhaps a woman or two) recorded what God had said to them. The Letter to the Hebrews in the New Testament begins by declaring "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days He has spoken to us by a Son?" (Heb 1:1-2a). The Son here, through whom God has spoken most clearly, is the life of Jesus of Nazareth who is the Christ (Greek for lord) or Messiah (Aramaic and Hebrew term for someone anointed to do a task).

So to answer your question, God has spoken thorough prophets directly, and indirectly, through scribes, psalmists, and others who were under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

larrymoore: l am interestd. I need further explanation pls.

abi o! me too. please tell us more.

Seeking the biblical author's intended meaning necessitates interpreting Bible verses in context.

Every word in the Bible is part of a verse, and every verse is part of a paragraph, and every paragraph is part of a book, and every book is part of the whole of Scripture. No verse of Scripture can be divorced from the verses around it. Interpreting a verse apart from its context is like trying to analyze a Rembrandt painting by looking at only a single square inch of the painting, or like trying to analyze Handel's "Messiah" by listening to a few short notes.

The context is absolutely critical to properly interpreting Bible verses. In interpreting Scripture, there is both an immediate context and a broader context. The immediate context of a verse is the paragraph (or paragraphs) of the biblical book in question. The immediate context should always be consulted in interpreting Bible verses.

The broader context is the whole of Scripture. The entire Holy Scripture is the context and guide for understanding the particular passages of Scripture.

We must keep in mind that the interpretation of a specific passage must not contradict the total teaching of Scripture on a point.

Individual verses do not exist as isolated fragments, but as parts of a whole.

The exposition of these verses, therefore, must involve exhibiting them in right relation both to the whole and to each other. Scripture interprets Scripture.

A plain reading of Genesis indicates that when God created Adam in His own rational image, He gave Adam the gift of intelligible speech, thus enabling him to communicate objectively with his creator (and with other human beings) via sharable linguistic symbols called words (Genesis 1:26).

God sovereignly chose to use human language as a medium of revelational communication.

If the primary purpose of God's originating of language was to make it possible for Him to communicate with human beings, as well as to enable human beings to communicate with each another, then it must follow that He would generally use language and expect man to use it in its literal, normal, and plain sense.


This view of language is a prerequisite to understanding not only God's spoken word but His written Word (Scripture) as well.

The Bible as a body of literature exists because human beings need to know certain spiritual truths to which they cannot attain by themselves. Thus these truths must come to them from without - that is, via objective, special revelation from God (Deuteronomy 29:29)


And this revelation can only be understood if one interprets the words of Scripture according to God's original design for language - that is, according to the ordinary, plain, literal sense of each word.

Seeking the Author's Intended Meaning

Instead of superimposing a meaning on the biblical text, the objective interpreter seeks to discover the author's intended meaning (the only true meaning). One must recognize that what a passage means is fixed by the author and is not subject to alteration by readers. Meaning is determined by the author; it is discovered by readers.


Our goal must be exegesis (drawing the meaning out of the text) and not eisogesis (superimposing a meaning onto the text).

No reader has the right to impose his own ideas on the text. Scripture itself clearly teaches that the only meaning of a text is what the Holy Spirit intended when He inspired the human writer (2 Pet. 1:20-1).

It follows that every text has only one correct interpretation. If two readers disagree on what it means, at least one of them is necessarily wrong. Perhaps both are wrong. How do we discover the one correct interpretation?

We must consult the author Himself, the Holy Spirit. We must allow Him to teach us.

dadicvila: did u read the article at all?how dare you say they were unarmed?i pray armed robbers pay your family a visit this night then you will know they are armed....they should have burnt them joh!why delay till i.diot policemen rescue them??there are many armed robbers on nairaland advocating for the right of their colleagues to rob and maim innocent Nigerians and go scot free

Don't mind them. I can't believe anyone will support armed robbers who kill and maim innocent people unless you yourself are a armed robber.

.. You live by the gun so die by the gun. Thank God no graphic pictures this time. People seemed to have learnt that wen u post the pictures online you risk exposing yourself as a jungle judge.

Osama10: This is a clear case of system failure.

... No. This is a clear case of their time was up!

Richfella: Lol, which one be magical instrument again?

RIP dudes, crime does not pay.

How can they rest in peace when they died in pieces terrorising innocent people?

2sexy: That is what most people often think when you discuss such issue here but I can tell you that the fact that someone discuss a thing like this doesnt mean he still has feeling for her...

it is not something that I can really explain to make you understand but I do know that downcasted has no feeling for this girl.

Change is the only constant thing in life and as someone said in the previous page "I guess there is a thin line between love and hate" which translate to if someone once loved you, it does not me he cant hate you in the long run because it is just a thin line between the two state.

I understand what you are saying but It's neither here or there. Why is he bothered at all if he no longer cares for her? Beats me!

downcasted: Centje - I really do not have the-strength for all
These relationship issues anymore, I prefer the- neutral option
And she dares not make a direct physical contact with me else she'l be embarassed
In ways unimaginable

You clearly still care for her in my opinion. Deal with your feelings first before making any decisions. Love is a risk but can also be rewarding. If you truly loved her, you won't want to hurt her and do all the nasty things others are recommending.

All you need is closure and the best way to get it is by keeping busy and filling your life with things that you enjoy. Each day will be a struggle but in time you will become stronger for it. Concentrate on your own recovery before anything else.

downcasted: Centje - I really do not have the-strength for all
These relationship issues anymore, I prefer the- neutral option
And she dares not make a direct physical contact with me else she'l be embarassed
In ways unimaginable

You clearly still care for her in my opinion. Deal with your feelings first before making any decisions. Love is a risk but can also be rewarding. If you truly loved her, you won't want to hurt her and do all the nasty things others are recommending.

All you need is closure and the best way to get it is by keeping busy and filling your life with things that you enjoy. Each day will be a struggle but in time you will become stronger for it. Concentrate in your own recovery before anything else.

The only thing I can see is that you still love her.

Love cannot be switched off and on. All the advice on this thread seem to have completely missed it becos they do not know her like you do. She can't be that bad if you stayed with her for 6 years.

It will be tough for you emotionally , there is no easy way out. This is the truth.

ThoniaSlim: Hmmmm You claim your over her and you'll ignore the message. Yet your so bothered by the message that you come on NL and open a thread solely to share this message? I wonder why!

Exactly my thoughts too

sortedupdate: You're good at writing but such a poor rumour hawker...

Journalist my foot.

It's all over the net www.news2.onlinenigeria.com
and u are trying to convince some fools that its a rumour.

coogar: what's so big-dealish in choosing a wife?
be friends with her, get to know her, talk to her.....love her!
what else?

If it was so easy, why are divorce rates so high?

She is cute and the best bit looks all natural!

Africans especially nigerians are not affectionate by nature so would never understand this. All they know is shouting , shouting and nothin but more shouting. No gentleness at all!

[quote author=post.email]I dont know what sanusi is on about, is Naira accepted outside Nigeria?[/quote]Only on the planet of Apes!