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How do people benefit from owning Ostriches? Do they eat them? Eat the eggs?

MizMyColi:
She sounded so sure of the dusting powder ish.

You come across as an educated person, so it's amazing that you want your daughter to get no pleasure from sex when she grows up. Why?

KingEbukaNaija:
Nobody deconverted from Christianity .

joseph1832:
Are you sure anyone converted? Fine, I know many Nigerians are gullible, but heck, converting because of the testimony of someone you don't know.

Come on...

Well, it's their primary concern. I have to address it whether or not I think it's realistic. In their defence, testimonies are surprisingly powerful.

SirWere:
. Considering the fact that damogul seems to be the only theist here capable of carrying out a coherent investigation; shouldn't you waive this one time

That's a very naive and disastrous idea. He has repeatedly shown us that he doesn't care about the rules. I hope he starts obeying them soon.

Mimzyy:
Our almighty founder banned the originator of the thread and tonight he locked the thread.

That's misleading. He was banned for breaking the rules. He wasn't banned for merely creating the thread. He made some false accusations, etc.

I can assure you that anybody who converted away from Christianity because of that thread is fully aware of everything that's been going on.

I wish to congratulate everyone who has been active on this thread for convincing us that HardMirror's story is probably not entirely true.

To put an end to this controversy, I've dropped the thread in question from the home page, since HardMirror hasn't proved that it is all true.

I hereby urge all ex-Christians who became atheists because of HardMirror's testimony to reconsider their beliefs in light of this information.

I hereby close this thread and instruct every Nairaland member who wants to continue to discuss HardMirror's story to go to the original thread.

damogul:
New thread loading.

Now he has been banned for disobeying a moderator. SirWere must be a prophet.

I wish to congratulate everyone who has been active on this thread for convincing us that HardMirror's story is probably not entirely true.

To put an end to this controversy, I've dropped the thread in question from the home page, since HardMirror hasn't proved that it is all true.

I hereby urge all ex-Christians who became atheists because of HardMirror's testimony to reconsider their beliefs in light of this information.

I hereby close this thread and instruct every Nairaland member who wants to continue to discuss HardMirror's story to go to the original thread.

SirWere:
Damogul has been banned;

This is false.

I wish to congratulate everyone who has been active on this thread for convincing us that HardMirror's story is probably not entirely true.

To put an end to this controversy, I've dropped the thread in question from the home page, since HardMirror hasn't proved that it is all true.

I hereby urge all ex-Christians who became atheists because of HardMirror's testimony to reconsider their beliefs in light of this information.

I hereby close this thread and instruct every Nairaland member who wants to continue to discuss HardMirror's story to go to the original thread.

I wish to congratulate everyone who has been active on this thread for convincing us that HardMirror's story is probably not entirely true.

To put an end to this controversy, I've dropped the thread in question from the home page, since HardMirror hasn't proved that it is all true.

I hereby urge all ex-Christians who became atheists because of HardMirror's testimony to reconsider their beliefs in light of this information.

I hereby close this thread and instruct every Nairaland member who wants to continue to discuss HardMirror's story to go to the original thread.

I think it is very wrong for HardMirror to have continued his story on a different thread instead of sticking with the original thread.

Please return to the original thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

I think it is very wrong for HardMirror to have continued his story on a different thread instead of sticking with the original thread.

Please return to the original thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

KingEbukaNaija:
Deism is very logical . Pandeism is not original , it just conflated ideas in deism and pantheism . Atheism restricts logical thinking , supports close-mindedness especially shown by atheists .

Are you a deist? What do you believe?

HardMirror versus the Apologists and their multiple handles.

You're sucking all the oxygen out of this section. Thinking of funnelling everything back to the first thread. Maybe that will contain the shitshow.

bbfever:
Seun did you bother checking the date the moniker was registered? it was 2012! And not just registered as that seems to be your latest lingo.

I am actually asking the questions you should be asking and it worries me.

I just want this silly sideshow to be over.

bbfever:
https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian

Extract I had formal Pastoral training from my home church with a certificate. (Don't want to name the church). That was before I got admission into FUTA.

Do you think it's possible that the random FUTArian who registered to drop that comment simply wasn't aware of this pre-FUTA certificate?

bbfever:
So you say Hardmirror was never trained as a Pastor and was just attention driven? cc seun

Did HardMirror say he was formally trained as a Pastor? If so, can you urgently give me a link to where he said so? Thanks a million!

onyenze123:
I believe in the moral and non mystical teachings of Jesus only

The moral teachings of Jesus are not that great, frankly. Most of them were badly thought through, while he didn't talk about many things which he should have talked about. For example, he didn't denounce the practice of slavery. He didn't denounce domestic abuse or accept it as a legitimate reason for divorce. He didn't agitate for gender equality and was arguably sexist himself: of the many women who were following him about and caring for him, none of them was ever appointed as an apostle. He preached pacifism to the point of stupidity in passages that most Christians wisely ignore. He thought financial planning was a sign of not having faith in God, because God provides for the birds (in reality, most of them die of starvation, disease, and predation, but Jesus didn't know that). You can develop a much better moral system by yourself!

Kudos for taking a step in the right direction.

baybeeboi:
Which means at some point u submitted your email publicly on Nairaland

We should br very careful with our personal details.

Yea. Should have mentioned that.

Gift101:
Please is anyone receiving this same email ?
Seun pls come here o...

This only affects those who posted their emails publicly on the forum. If you've not done that, you have nothing to worry about.

yorhmienerd:
At last you admitted that he told a lie,

Not exactly.

will it be too hard to push it to FP to allow those that saw the first post verify for themselves and know the original truth OR you don't want to loose your new atheist converts?

Don't put words in my mouth.

EyeHateGod:
Hardmirror better come and admit that you told a lie let all this talk die down jare..

yeah

MrMontella:
I knew something was going to happen..when i saw mynd.44 on this thread...
Well..
Seun hardmirror seems not to want to co-operate
here are instances that shows he claims to know the name...
www.nairaland.com/3477844/investigation-hardmirrors-claims-pastor-atheist/5#51320458
www.nairaland.com/3477844/investigation-hardmirrors-claims-pastor-atheist/4#51315993
www.nairaland.com/3477844/investigation-hardmirrors-claims-pastor-atheist/4#51315882

www.nairaland.com/3477844/investigation-hardmirrors-claims-pastor-atheist/5#51318120 etc..
If hardmirror can co-operate..this would go smoothly...
I believe there are ways to release evidence..without compromising his aninomity....

Thanks. So the pretence continued for a while. This is worse.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
So, I am still strongly of the opinion that Hardmirror lied by implication, knowing fully well, what the adverse effect of telling the truth will be to his narrative.

Would you agree that it's been blown way out of proportion, though? "I won't mention his name here" Thats nothing compared to someone pretending to be an atheist and registering multiple alt accounts to tarnish someone's reputation, isn't it?

Funjosh:

You should express yourself coherently or be silent.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Seun, I never knew you read law...

When someone says, "I won't mention the name her", what does that imply? Please tell us.

Surely there must be more than this. They said he fervently insisted that he knew the name, but in the quote provided he implied it without directly saying so. To me, it reads as if he was embarrassed to admit that he didn't know the name, so he sidestepped it in a slightly misleading way. This is not the big insistent lie that was promised, or @jonbellion what do you think? Was that a big lie in your view?

Seun:
In the quote you provided, I can't find the part where he claimed to know the name of the brother. Can you point it out to me?

Ok I have seen it. He said, "I won't mention his name here" Is that all?