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Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 11:35pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
It is harder for your brain to process unknown words so it needs to work harder to process it as these words excite it as it attempts to relearn and store this information as new info so it is expected to spike in activity when speaking in unknown tongues but this was not the case here.
The whole point of speaking in tongues is that your brain does not process the words. It just spews them out mindlessly. That's very easy.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 11:30pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Seun you admitted to having carried out a fake holy ghost baptism experience.
False.

To your first comment I can tell you categorically that when anyone attempts to speak gibberish, in order to sustain that so called gibberish he would need the active participation of his brain.
Generating gibberish is extremely easy compared to most things the brain has to do, so it makes sense for brain activity to drop a little bit.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 11:17pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Nope frontal lobe activity at all.
False. There was a dip in frontal lobe activity, but it was still quite active. Concocting gibberish is easy. It doesn't require much brainpower.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 11:02pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
I asked how can speaking in tongues be from our subconscious yet trigger no brain activity
yet the same science says dreams are from our subconscious but they trigger a lot of brain activity. Are there 2 different kinds of subconsciousness?
You seem to have misunderstood the science. The science shows a dip in frontal lobe and left caudate activity specifically when speaking in tongues. I suspect that generating nonsense sounds requires far less subconscious brainpower than creating a dynamic simulation of reality.

naijadeyhia:
How can you say your experience was very NATURAL just like every SPIRITUAL experience. Can you place NATURAL EVENTS on the same platform as SPIRITUAL EVENTS?
All spiritual events take place in the imaginative minds of believers. A good example would be the one you described earlier on this thread.
HealthRe: What Could Be The Cause Of This Prob?? by Seun(mod): 10:42pm On Nov 29, 2016
Ebuka2016:
thanks boss
No, that may help your symptoms but you need to find out the real cause of the problem before you can be permanently cured. I wish some of the actual doctors on this forum would take a look at this case.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AWCON 2016, Semi Finals. 1 - 0 (Full Time) by Seun(mod): 10:25pm On Nov 29, 2016
aadvark:
chineke! seun dey watch women ball?
That South African goalkeeper ... let me check her age first ...
PhonesRe: Data Rate Increase: A Deliberate Mechanism To Reduce Social Media Influence? by Seun(mod): 9:50pm On Nov 29, 2016
This is the first time an action by the NCC hasn't made sense to me. What went wrong? huh (it seems the chairman was replaced 3 months ago)
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 9:40pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Yet you turn around here to say NOTHING IS SPIRITUAL?
I said it was as spiritual as any spiritual experience that anybody has ever had, which is correct. But it was also purely psychological. Indeed, all spiritual experiences are mostly psychological. My experience was emotional and genuine but very natural, just like every spiritual experience.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 9:18pm On Nov 29, 2016
Emmanystone:
Whathuh??.
it's Spiritual but not supernatural? Whathuh? So, the supernatural operates differently from the Spiritual. This is new. Pls Seun teach me something new.
Nothing is spiritual in the 'true' sense. All the things people perceive as being spiritual are just psychological in nature, primarily emotional.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AWCON 2016, Semi Finals. 1 - 0 (Full Time) by Seun(mod): 8:50pm On Nov 29, 2016
Congratulations to everyone!!! kiss
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 5:18pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia, thanks for sharing your experience.

The feeling you described as "electricity" is best described as a tingling sensation. People often feel it when they listen to really moving music or watch powerful scenes in movies or when they orgasm or when something really scares them. It's associated with intense emotional states. You reacted to it in the way that you did probably because you interpreted it as a sign that the Holy Spirit was literally touching you all over.

What was your pastor doing during the 2 hours that you were lying on the floor, speaking in tongues? Weren't you disturbing the service? Also, why did the pastor have to direct the Holy Spirit to release you before you stopped? Didn't the Holy Spirit know that it was time to stop?
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 4:51pm On Nov 29, 2016
EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
Seun is actually over 34, bit of an old man.
sad
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 4:12pm On Nov 29, 2016
mostyg:
Not speaking in tongues. He would be able to speak and understand any language spoken to him during the exorcism
Can you give an example of a time when you experienced such? If not, what leads you to believe that it has ever happened?
Christianity EtcRe: Interpretation Of Tongues Spoken In "Way Maker" By Sinach by Seun(mod): 4:09pm On Nov 29, 2016
I used to speak in tongues, and I can probably still do it, even though I've been an atheist since before I started Nairaland:
Seun:
When I gave my life to Christ at Foursquare Gospel Church, I was in JSS 1. After we said the sinner's prayer, our Sunday School teacher tried to get us baptised in the Holy Spirit. I was waiting for the Holy Spirit to descend on me and make me speak in tongues, but I didn't feel anything. Most of the girls started speaking in tongues, but I got nothing. I earnestly and sincerely ask God for it, but nothing happened.

When I got to Ife and started attending ECU, the fellowship my parents attended, we had to take a membership class and my teacher and his best friend also tried to get me baptised in the Holy Spirit to no avail. I remember them taking me to the sports center and praying with me and urging me to speak. I patiently waited for the Holy Spirit to descend on me but nothing happened. Then they had to explain that speaking in tongues is by faith. God supplies the word, and we speak them out, they said. To me it sounded as if they were encouraging me to fake it, and suggesting that everyone fakes it, but I just couldn't accept that. I wanted to experience it genuinely, like the apostles did in the bible.

So one day, as I was praying very intensely in my room, I felt a subtle urge to start saying some nonsense words that came to my mind, and I did. And once I started, I found that new words came to my mind and I could continue speaking them. That's how I started speaking in tongues. In my fellowship, it was common for the pastors to ask everyone to start speaking in tongues during worship; now I could join in! But it was also a bit of a disappointment because the experience was emotional, not supernatural. The Holy Spirit didn't take over my body.

When I was re-watching Sinach's video to transcribe her tongues, I actually felt the urge to speak in tongues again. I think listening to the beautiful way she sang the tongues triggered something in me. I bet I can still speak in tongues today if I choose to succumb to the feeling.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 4:04pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Thank you for admitting that your experience was emotional and not spiritual
Correction: I didn't say it was "not spiritual". I said it was not supernatural. It was as spiritual as any actual religious experience.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 3:47pm On Nov 29, 2016
When I gave my life to Christ at Foursquare Gospel Church, I was in JSS 1. After we said the sinner's prayer, our Sunday School teacher tried to get us baptised in the Holy Spirit. I was waiting for the Holy Spirit to descend on me and make me speak in tongues, but I didn't feel anything. Most of the girls started speaking in tongues, but I got nothing. I earnestly and sincerely ask God for it, but nothing happened.

When I got to Ife and started attending ECU, the fellowship my parents attended, we had to take a membership class and my teacher and his best friend also tried to get me baptised in the Holy Spirit to no avail. I remember them taking me to the sports center and praying with me and urging me to speak. I patiently waited for the Holy Spirit to descend on me but nothing happened. Then they had to explain that speaking in tongues is by faith. God supplies the word, and we speak them out, they said. To me it sounded as if they were encouraging me to fake it, and suggesting that everyone fakes it, but I just couldn't accept that. I wanted to experience it genuinely, like the apostles did in the bible.

So one day, as I was praying very intensely in my room, I felt a subtle urge to start saying some nonsense words that came to my mind, and I did. And once I started, I found that new words came to my mind and I could continue speaking them. That's how I started speaking in tongues. In my fellowship, it was common for the pastors to ask everyone to start speaking in tongues during worship; now I could join in! But it was also a bit of a disappointment because the experience was emotional, not supernatural. The Holy Spirit didn't take over my body.

When I was re-watching Sinach's video to transcribe her tongues, I actually felt the urge to speak in tongues again. I think listening to the beautiful way she sang the tongues triggered something in me. I bet I can still speak in tongues today if I choose to succumb to the feeling.
Christianity EtcRe: Scientific Study Of Speaking In Tongues by Seun(mod): 2:50pm On Nov 29, 2016
naijadeyhia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc
The video suggests that some Christians do not consciously concoct nonsense words when they speak in tongues. For those Christians, the tongues come from their subconscious minds while they are emotionally aroused. Those Christians are under a genuine and honest delusion.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 2:15pm On Nov 29, 2016
Amadaz:
how about those that transform to insects and animals
I don't believe that this has ever happened. You could be falsely accused of having transformed, and many people would stupidly believe it.
RomanceRe: Is It Okay For Ladies To Move Around With Condoms In Their Bags? by Seun(mod): 1:32pm On Nov 29, 2016
It's highly recommended for ladies who are allergic to unwanted pregnancies, HIV/AIDS, etc, and whose bodies aren't made of wood.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 2:20am On Nov 29, 2016
AnonyNymous:
And even on the rare occasions that it actually does happen:

This happened last month. Its not a strange phenomenon. It has to do with your subconscious taking over for a while. There are several cases of similar incidents. If this were Nigeria and it happened in a church we wouldn't hear the end of it.
yea, he actually studied Spanish before the accident, so the real story is that he couldn't speak English for a while.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 1:13am On Nov 29, 2016
Ksudr:
I will not say much... Download and watch this movie "The Exorcist "
Movies are not real... undecided
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 1:12am On Nov 29, 2016
Feel free to explain why the "witch" could not have asked a NEPA official to ensure that the power would be off during her demonstration.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 1:05am On Nov 29, 2016
If felixomor has something to say about live power lines, he should go ahead and say it.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 12:46am On Nov 29, 2016
felixomor:
Hehehe, sorry, no GSM then.
But they had watches. "Switch off the power at 3pm and reconnect it at 4pm. I'll start my demonstration at 3:10 for safety"
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 12:30am On Nov 29, 2016
felixomor:
Hahahahaha.
So i guess the witch was a nepa worker.
Or probably someone the "witch" knew.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 11:25pm On Nov 28, 2016
felixomor:
I have watched a witch climb an electric power line to the top and come back down in the ancient city of Benin without electrocution.
Electrical technicians climb electric power lines all the time without electrocution. The key is to have the power switched off before climbing it. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Mr. Seun Pls Dis Goes To U by Seun(mod): 11:13pm On Nov 28, 2016
Smallville10:
hahahahahahahahaha... JESUS CHRIST...

The palm tree stuff? Songs of solomon huh

I thought u would say something abt maybe Jesus or Daniel or Elijah or some story in d bible...

Pls, prove me wrong and tell me there's more, than just that Romantic book
The people who wrote the bible believed in so many things that don't exist, such as God, angels, satan, demons, and miracles. Most books, chapters and verses are full of references to these imaginary things. That makes it hard to find a significant portion of the bible that is all true.
Christianity EtcRe: Mr. Seun Pls Dis Goes To U by Seun(mod): 11:07pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
I enjoy engaging you . Its fun . So easy smiley
Thanks. Engaging you isn't difficult, just pointless, like prayer. Even if you become an atheist, you'll be a lying atheist, so what's the point?

It is a fact, as I said, that most bible scholars believe that the story of Exodus is a work of fiction. Any honest google search will show this.
Christianity EtcRe: Mr. Seun Pls Dis Goes To U by Seun(mod): 10:57pm On Nov 28, 2016
felixomor:
Oh, you have exposed Seun again. grin
He didn't, but I hate engaging apologists. I believe it's largely a waste of time. I prefer to engage with people who are honestly wrong.

KingEbukasBlog:
What bible scholars ? The reputable ones say the exodus is not fiction http://www.reformjudaism.org/exodus-not-fiction
It is a fact that most bible scholars believe that the story of Exodus is fiction. Even your cherry-picked article mentions two scholars who do.
Christianity EtcRe: Mr. Seun Pls Dis Goes To U by Seun(mod): 10:23pm On Nov 28, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Any story you don't understand is regarded as fiction grin grin grin
Any reference to things that don't exist is fiction. Any story that bible scholars don't believe to have actually happened is fiction. For example. most bible scholars believe the story of exodus is fictional. Upon reflection, this is obvious. All those mighty signs couldn't have happened.
Christianity EtcRe: There Are No Such Things As Witches And Wizards; It's Just A Psychiatric Issue by Seun(mod): 10:17pm On Nov 28, 2016
mostyg:
I guess you have never seen where exorcism is been performed, where the subject (the possessed) speaks the language he never spoke nor understood in his sane mind.
You mean like speaking in tongues?
Christianity EtcRe: Saved From Danger Experience. Tell Your Story by Seun(mod): 10:08pm On Nov 28, 2016
I'm very glad that you got lucky, though it is unfortunate that other guy was chased and injured.

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