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manny4life: Earn what?

You must really be dreaming, when I heard Seun's mods are unpiad, I was shocked. I've come to appreciate them more than before. Now you're suggesting users earn from here. That will ONLY COME TO PASS, only if NL is taken over which I sure don't foresee.

Many people earn good money from Nairaland. By providing commercial products and services to Nigerians.

emyguz: @ Seun.

Pls I request that the way local searches are done on this sites be improved. For example, it doesn't have to bring out the replies made on the topic. And also, it should just bring out the topic heading.

Most times, I find it boring searching for articles on Nairaland's local site search. Pls that would make Nairaland look more beautiful.

Thanks

why don't you use the google search option?

denzel2009: duh... happy joysticks are bent.

dude, you should see a doctor asap.

rafhell: don't push your luck. seun is gay.

Actually, I'm as straight as a happy joystick. If you had access to certain folders on my computer, you would have no doubt about this.

nitrogen: Everyone knows that you are a PDP agent, your type will never be frank and realistic for once.

If I'm a PDP agent, why did I vote for ACN in the governorship elections even though I didn't even know the candidate? And why am I recommending Oshiomhole as the better candidate? When did Oshiomhole join PDP?

Added you on Facebook, for what it's worth.

Bblaq17: Looking @ d issue of making Nigeria better,is it possible 2 make Nigeria better without d decisions affecting d poor?

Shouldnt helping the poor (as opposed to oppressing and tormenting them) be a important component of any plan to make Nigeria better? How can we claim that Nigeria is getting better if things are actually getting worse for the poor among us? Don't the masses matter anymore?

berem: exactly! You just spoke my mind.buh if he becomes the vice,who will be the president?

Adams Oshiomhole, a man of the people. he performs but he also cares about the masses, unlike Fashola.

Nope. I'm as single as the moon.

I'm confused. Is the female SSS officer pictured above supposed to be a Nigerian? I very much doubt that.

Everyone is so young! Kudos to you guys.

I also think they should be banned.

ogugua88: The US is my birth place and residence. Africa is my home.

If you live in the US and plan to continue living there indefinitely, then you cannot claim that Africa is your home. Definition of home: The place where one lives permanently, esp. as a member of a family or household. [url=https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=define%3Ahome]Source[/url]. Based on what I know, I think USA is your home.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]This has never been in dispute[/quote]It was in dispute. The statement "It is difficult to argue with an atheist because he would have no reason to tell the truth" was meant to imply that it's less difficult to argue with religious people because they are more truthful. Since most religious people are not "true Christians", that's not true. I'm glad that we are in agreement concerning this issue.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]What we haven't heard is why honesty ought to be valued by an atheist.[/quote]I can give you 5 reasons why honesty should be valued by human beings:
1) Honesty is fair. You don't want others to be dishonest with you, so why should you be dishonest with others?
2) When you are consistently honest, people tend to trust you. This makes them more likely to hire or do business with you.
3) Being dishonest in your professional life is fraud; it can land you in prison and tarnish your family's reputation.
4) Telling the truth makes life less stressful because you don't have to keep track of which lies you've told which person.
5) Being honest can make you feel good about yourself, especially when your honesty is commended by other people.

This is where I joined the discussion:

Wahala90: It is difficult to argue with an atheist because he would have no reason to tell the truth.

I think I have convinced you that many atheists - those who value honesty - have many reasons to tell the truth. And that there's no reason to believe that the majority of people who identify themselves as Christians on this forum or elsewhere are more honest than the atheists on this forum or elsewhere, since most people who identify themselves as Christians are not "true Christians".

@toba what I said earlier was correct. Lying, stealing, rape, murder, 419, terrorism, corruption, torture, and even human trafficking are forgiveable sins. As long as you don't insult the holy spirit, you can ask for forgiveness 5 minutes before your death and they will all be wiped away. As a Christian, if divine retribution is your primary reason for doing good, then its not a very compelling reason. Perhaps thats why so many Nigerian Christians do bad things regularly.

You claim that willful sin may not be forgiven depending on its gravity. I think that's just not biblical. Apart from the so_called sin against the holy spirit, all other sins are forgivable in the new testament...

Lexusgs430: Ain't you aware most women normally have driving shoes in their cars?

Nope. That's an interesting solution.

Siena: I've always driven with shoes. It's a safety thing too.

How so? Though I have limited experience, I feel driving without shoes is a bit safer because it allows for more precise control of the pedals.

Perhaps you should forget about stardom and look for more practical opportunities in the music industry. Maybe song-writing for popular artistes?

toba: @ emphasized text. You are very wrong. People have choices and have the right to do and not to do. Your forum is moderated with strict rules, yet people choose to disobey the rules and give the moderators more work. Can we then say Seun osewa the 'god' of NL is not making positive behaviour a "must" in any practical sense on NL.

If there was no enforcement of the strict rules, then yes, it would be correct to say I'm not "making positive behaviour a must" on Nairaland. The bible threatens 'sinners' with hell fire - but only if they don't beg for forgiveness before they die. That's weak. That's why it's not effective.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]For most religious people, God makes it a must for them to be honest, fair, kind etc.[/quote]That's simply not true. Most armed robbers, kidnappers, suicide bombers, dictators, scammers, and corrupt politicians in Nigeria are religious, so it's clear that God is not making positive behaviour a "must" in any practical sense.

For Christians in particular, the fear of hell fire is not sufficient to compel them to behave decently because all they have to do is confess their sins before their die in order to escape hell, regardless of their prior actions. You can steal, kill, lie, cheat, and be wicked to people, and then when you're in any life-threatening situation, just shout "Jesus forgive me" and you're good. How does that enforce good behaviour?

I think good behaviour comes from two main things: law enforcement & values. Obviously, people will behave themselves if they know that failure to do so will likely result in an arrest, prosecution, and jail-time. However, even a good legal system won't dissuade people from doing bad things if they know they won't be caught (naija syndrome), or if their bad behaviour is not illegal.

But what prevents you from doing a bad thing when you know you won't be caught or when the bad thing you want to do is not illegal? Values. By values, I mean our deeply held beliefs about how we should treat our fellow men. That's what makes people do the right thing when there is no one watching.

There is no question about the fact that some few people, aka "true Christians" and "true Muslims" are motivated to do good for religious reasons. But there are very few of them, and majority of them are the very same people who would have done good even if they did not believe in God.

I think basic human decency comes from your upbringing and temperament. If your parents teach you to value things like hard work, honesty, & fairness while you're young, you are likely grow up into a decent human being. Apart from that, certain people are just naturally conscientious; they always want to do the right thing. It doesn't have much to do with religion.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]What exactly are these basic human decency & principles and why must anyone or everyone adhere to them?[/quote]Things people generally consider to be desirable traits. Like honesty, kindness, fairness, hard work. I never said everyone must adhere to them.

Wahala90: It is difficult to argue with an atheist because he would have no reason to tell the truth.

I don't understand. Are you saying that your primary reason for telling the truth is that you're afraid of being cast into hell fire for lying? What happened to basic human decency & principles?

Driving with shoes on must be much harder for women, because women's shoes are far less comfortable than men's shoes.