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 Computers › Re: Naira Sign (₦) On A Keyboard? by Seun(mod): 5:00pm On Dec 14, 2008 |
osagab:@osagab: that's a very clever solution. Thanks! I think you also need to enable UTF-8 encoding in your editor. |
| Nairaland General › Re: Seun Partiality Is A Disease by Seun(mod): 3:51pm On Dec 14, 2008 |
We will look into the "iice can I meet you thread", but mukina2 and other moderators are working very hard to make this forum habitable and we need to give them more respect and appreciation. |
| Programming › Re: Want To Know About Programmer Opportunities by Seun(mod): 3:38pm On Dec 14, 2008 |
The vast majority of software opportunities out there don't really require programming. They involve software installation, configuration, administration and customization.  |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Ghana: The Real Pride Of Black Africa by Seun(mod): 3:35pm On Dec 14, 2008 |
Ghana cannot "colonize" Oshodi alone, not to talk of the whole of Nigeria!  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It That Witches, Wizards And Demons Never Attack Atheist? by Seun(mod): 10:18pm On Dec 13, 2008 |
Take your "demon-possessed" child to a good mental institution, and he will be "healed" in 2 weeks. Grr. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool (2) Versus Hull City (2) Saturday 13th December by Seun(mod): 4:37pm On Dec 13, 2008 |
So it's 3-1 now? |
| Programming › Re: Criticism Of Object Oriented Programming by Seun(mod): 11:57am On Dec 13, 2008 |
Let me put it this way: Python is object oriented. It is also procedural. And functional. And module-oriented. The website emphasizes the OOP aspect to keep people like you interested, that's all. I think we can all agree that the misuse of OOP constructs is a bad thing. What we don't agree upon is what constitutes misuse and what constitutes acceptable use. To discuss this we have to discuss various specific problems and explore the ways of solving them with each approach. 1 Like |
| Programming › Re: Moving On To J2EE by Seun(mod): 11:48am On Dec 13, 2008 |
What is J2EE used for?  |
| Sports › Re: Forgotten Players In Nigerian Soccer by Seun(mod): 8:53pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
moderator, i want to know why i found this thread in the recycle bin. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Barca versus Real Madrid by Seun(mod): 5:27pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Barca! (Making this thread sticky because both teams are really well known) |
| Programming › Re: Criticism Of Object Oriented Programming by Seun(mod): 3:37pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
@seunAs someone who uses Python everyday, I can assure you that you don't know what you're saying. Python is a multi-paradigm language. It supports OOP, procedural, functional, etc. Anyone you like. (Unlike Java which forces OOP on you by forcing you to declare classes in every single program.) Your post is quite insightful, even though I don't fully agree with you, but please leave Python alone. |
| Sports › Re: PSV Eindhoven (1) Vs Liverpool (3) by Seun(mod): 3:26pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
bgees:Big talk! |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool (2) Versus Hull City (2) Saturday 13th December by Seun(mod): 3:24pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Liverpool? League Leaders? How and when did this happen? Is this a train we need to jump on? |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea (1) Vs West Ham United (1) Sunday 14th December by Seun(mod): 3:23pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
Chelsea, the most boring team on the planet, is probably going to win yet again. Alas. |
| Politics › Re: CNN Says Oil Is A Curse To Nigeria! by Seun(mod): 2:54pm On Dec 12, 2008 |
The report is nothing new. We all know these things already. Why are we making it such a big deal? |
| Sports › Re: Brazillian Girls With New Throw In Skills - Pics by Seun(mod): 9:57pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
I don't support women doing tedious sports.Does she even know you exist, not to talk of seeking to be romanced by you? The fact that you are not attracted to muscle does not imply that women should not play sports. Every woman need not please you, you only need one. Some like them feminine (wimpy and weak) and some like them strong. 1 Like |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United (2) Vs Aab (2): Live by Seun(mod): 9:51pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
What. Man U is losing? I don't believe it. They had just equalized when I left. |
| European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FC Porto(2) Vs Arsenal (0): Live by Seun(mod): 9:50pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
These gunners; always breaking peoples' hearts. |
| Culture › Re: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by Seun(mod): 9:48pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
Someone I know was being beaten by her husband like a dog. She went to the police to complain and the police man said and I quoteWhy couldn't she look for a police woman? If you're waiting for wife-beaters to save you from other wife-beaters, you will wait forever. Women need to take charge of their own concerns and stop expecting men to 'save' them. Wise up, ladies. |
| Politics › Re: Yar'adua Seeks End To Immunity For Leaders by Seun(mod): 6:36pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
| Culture › Re: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by Seun(mod): 6:24pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
I honestly don't think anyone should question God's word "OKO NI OLORI AYA"Question: was that statement not written by a man? You're just proving the original poster right! |
| Sports › Re: The True Fact Of Nairaland Sports Section by Seun(mod): 6:20pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
Yeah, can we create a long-running thread for every single Nigerian player abroad and update each one regularly? |
| Culture › Re: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by Seun(mod): 1:51pm On Dec 10, 2008 |
This is a discussion forum. It's a place for people to "bitch" about things. |
| Programming › Re: Criticism Of Object Oriented Programming by Seun(mod): 11:51am On Dec 10, 2008 |
OOP sure does help in ActionScript, with inheritance and creating classesThis reminds me of something i wanted to point out. GUI development is one of those areas where OOP seems to work really well. Another area is gama development, or any program that involves virtual simulations. I would absolutely use OOP if I was creating anything like that, because OOP is a natural fit for those problems. But it's a mistake to force OOP into every 'complicated' problem. The Linux kernel and GNU linux are not OOP. Apache is not OOP. PHP became successful without supporting OOP. Yahoo used PHP exclusively before it supported objects. Is Yahoo not a complex website? It's a myth that OOP is better for every complex problem. OOP is just one possible approach and it fits certain problems better than others: games, simulations, graphics. You can still do all this in a procedural language if you structure your app into modules and you have functions here and there but my point is that you can do it more easily in OOPYou think it's easier in OOP is probably because that's what you're used to. But it's not the only way, and it's not always the best or most user-friendly way. Let's use the right tool for every job. Very valid pointsThanks.  But: those concepts originally came from procedural programming and OOP simply stole them. Tuples and list are just Lists in java but i have a problem with the fact that you can have mixed data type in them. It will be very hard to find bugs that are based on you putting a wrong type in a tuple. i.e ur app expects a String but you have somehow added a number into the tuplePython is strongly typed. If you try to perform numeric operations on a string, you'll get a TypeError. So that's not a problem. (but you have to run your program to catch the error). The advantage is that I can group any arbitrary objects together without defining a class or struct. Instead of being forced to define a User class, I can create a tuple (iduser, username, emailaddress). And I can take 50 such tuples and add them to a list, and send the list to a PromoteThemAll() function. Unlike a class, I can include only the fields needed by the PromoteThemAll() function. @Seun: good point but u can not extend the hello, standard library without the source code if need be or can u ?.Yes, you can. You can create new functions that depend on the functions in the standard library. That is equivalent to overriding a class method with a new method that calls the parent method. You can create new data structures that contain data structures in the standard library. This is equivalent to adding new variables in a child class. @Seun: Guess u still have a lot to learn about OOP in the real sense. Inheritance solves that problem neatly and it works fine for me sha.No, it does not. Unless your database supports inheritance, you have to rewrite the database queries, which is the same as what you'll need to do in a procedural program. Inheritance is a fancy name for "writing new functions that depend on provided functions". The amount of code you have to write is the same, the only difference is the way you write it. @Seun: I am hearing that for the first time in my life ?. What holds a Student's table in your programme logic ?The database holds my students table. My program logic retrieves rows based on SQL queries and stores them in tuples, which contain just the fields that are needed in the current function. "redundant and wrong" what authority are you quoting. HuhThe [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_repeat_yourself]don't repeat yourself[/url] principle (DRY) All you need to do is to write an app that builds your classes straight from your database.What happens to your classes when your database changes? That's why the DRY principle exists. read up "OBJECT ORIENTED DATABASE DESIGN".I have and it's mostly hype too. It's meant to appeal to people who are afraid of SQL. Don't be: SQL is just another programming language that you can master very easily. I think anything you can do with a procedural language you can do with an OOP language but the converse is not the case.There is no modern procedural language that doesn't support OOP, and there is no OOP language that doesn't support procedural programming. The point is to use the right tools for the right job. When you use OOP for appropriate problems like GUI work, simulations, and graphics, it helps a lot. When you use it inappropriately in text/html processing programs, data access libraries, etc, it just makes your program harder to read. Anything you put in a program that doesn't need to be there makes the program harder to read and maintain (except comments, of course). OOP makes sense because reality (as in things we see around us) is most easily modeled using this paradigmProgramming is not about modelling reality. It's about solving problems. Sometimes, the problem involves modeling virtual objects e.g. game characters and GUI widgets, and that is where OOP is really useful. But when you're executing complex mathematical calculations, doing complex text/html processing, or manipulating a complex corporate database, OOP can be more of an obstacle. What I'm proposing is a multi-paradigm approach: let us understand the best practices in OOP and procedural programming, and use the most appropriate mix for each project. Don't define classes or use inheritance unless that is the clearest way to solve the problem. In fact, there are many useful programming paradigms beyond OOP and Procedural. E.g. functional. Let's learn them all, and use them all, where appropriate. 1 Like |
| Literature › Re: Pulitzer Prizes To Allow Online-only Publications by Seun(mod): 2:31pm On Dec 09, 2008 |
Nice! |
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