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@lifedonor: Congratulations and thanks for sharing your experience. It’s enlightening to for me. God bless your girlfriend. Why didn’t you choose to contact the NCDC in the end?

You case seems to sound like a mild case of COVID19. You are very likely to survive, Don’t worry.

You need to call the NCDC number and keep calling it until you get through. Report back to us if you can’t get through. If you can, let’s know what they ask you to do.

Lifedonor:
Thanks God bless you.. By tomorrow I don't know if to start with the therapy or I should treat malaria

Please go to a hospital. They will test you for malaria. It can also cause tiredness which can be mistaken for shortness of breath.

Have they run out of contacts to trace? Don’t they have people calling their hotlines begging to be tested but are denied because they have no travel history? So why would they even need to conduct a door to door search for people with the Coronavirus? I don't understand.

I am a strong proponent of the use of face-masks and I think that, if not for the aggressive marketing campaign by the WHO to brainwash people against protecting themselves, the Coronavirus would not have killed so many people. The WHO is to blame for this tragedy.

However, what the governor said was wrong. Even after putting a mask on every face, we still need to continue reducing our exposure to to the Coronavirus by avoiding risky situations that we can afford to avoid. Masks do not provide perfect protection. Nothing provides that.

Good, but people should be required to wear face masks, especially in crowded places like markets. The virus spreads too quickly if people don’t have any form of protection. Face masks properly worn by everybody could have a synergistic effect that can slow down an epidemic dramatically, allowing the testing and isolation process to catch up.

I want to fault this, but I can’t. It’s unfortunate that many people will have to get fat during this period.

I wish they would tell us more about the new cases. Were they travelers? Rich or poor? Where did they catch it? Why were they tested? Did they use face-masks? And, most importantly, we need to know about their movement before they were diagnosed. There should be detailed, anonymized information about every case that we can analyze.

It would have been better to spend the 20 billion on Facemasks and test kits.

I'd have prefered South Korean doctors but the Chinese are the best alternative. The Western medical establishment is currently failing badly.

I'm grateful to Pastor Chris for giving us something to laugh about in this dark, depressing time.

Once enough people have died and our economies have suffered sufficiently, they'll start to recommend masks and the Coronavirus will go away.

With this attitude, he could be the next Boris Johnson, but I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Please take care of yourself, sir.

Isn't food an essential service? Very confused.

Good, but there are many other truths you need to tell them.

Good, but there are many other truths you need to tell them.

raymi:
Seun, I think you need to do more research about this virus and listen to the experts.

Who are the experts and what are they saying? I mean, the South Koreans who are beating the virus without locking everything down are the best experts on the matter of the Coronavirus. Why listen to experts from countries that are losing hundreds of their citizens to the virus every day instead of experts from South Korea and other Asian countries, who have actually demonstrated that their ideas are effective?

Also, how many Economics experts did our leaders consult before deciding that shutting down the commercial capital of the country, which is responsible for a third of our GDP Is more cost-effective than massively funding the NCDC so they can increase our testing and isolation capacities to match or exceed that of South Korea?

First of all, everything is secondary when it comes to human lives. Business, economy etc. Human lives are priceless. We cannot gamble with human lives because we want Nairaland or other companies to grow or not lose money.

Forget Nairaland. I will probably lose my sanity if this lockdown continues much longer. And it pains me because the experts in South Korea have demonstrated that if you put the right things in place, you can beat the virus without shutting down your economy. Why is the whole world not listening to these experts?

By the way, we gamble with human lives all the time. For example, with the lockdown, the government is gambling with the lives of poor people who struggle to meet their basic needs. It’s gambling with the lives of Innocent people will be killed as a result of a sharp rise in robberies by desperate impoverished people. It’s gambling with the lives of failed business owners and retrenched workers who will commit suicide.

The use of face masks, according to experts doesn't stop the spread of the virus effectively.

Many experts are now saying that the above information by the WHO is false. Dr Fauci of USA said that if we have enough masks, putting a mask on every face would help against the virus and the US CDC is advising Americans to wear home made face-masks to slow the spread of the disease. The head of China’s CDC, an expert who is winning the battle against COVID19 in his country, said that not wearing masks is a big mistake:

Q: What mistakes are other countries making?

A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says

How do you even think government can enforce face masks and social distancing?

If the government can enforce the lockdown, they can enforce physical distancing.

You setup detailed rules that are sensible and logical, make sure everyone knows what the rules are, provide materials that they will need, and shut down or fine establishments that fail to follow the rules. After a few have been made examples of, others will fall in line.

I've been thinking of that too.

As much as I hate the lockdown, because I believe that people should be allowed to move around if they wear a mask and practice physical distancing, holding a party with the group of people who are most likely to be infected by the Coronavirus, is awful. Was her husband arrested?

9jaRealist:
That’s how medical science works...
WHO goes with available evidence, until there’s new evidence.>

The evidence is not new. This article on the possibility of asymptomatic transmission was written on the 4th of February:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/health/coronavirus-symptoms-germany.html

tempem:
Quick Squad!

Why did she run? They should ask her and let us know.. It's very important..

Agreed. We need to know if they treat patients at the isolation center as well as they should.

I love what this man is doing. The main issue with the locally made masks I’ve seen is the lack of a nose wire which allows you to shape the mask around your nose. They need to sew some flexible wire that holds its shape into the top of each mask.

So most of us cannot go to work even if we wear N95 masks and safety goggles, but some people in the same country can congregate in large numbers without any form of protection because of their religion? Not fair.

sammyj:
Nobody advised agianst face mask

How about this tweet by the US Surgeon general:

Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!

WHO said people should only wear it if they are sneezing or coughing or taking care of Coronavirus patients.

It looks as if the reign of the dreaded Coronavirus is nearing its end as countries are beginning to realize that the WHO’s guidance against wearing face-masks is comically, tragically, obviously, and totally wrong.

For example:

The American CDC is now advising Americans to voluntarily wear a basic cloth or fabric face mask when they go out to help curb the spread of the new coronavirus.

These non-medical masks can be either purchased online or simply made at home, the CDC says.

After insisting for weeks that healthy people did not need to wear masks in most circumstances, federal health officials decided to change their guidance in response to a growing body of evidence that people who do not appear to be sick are playing an outsized role in the COVID-19 pandemic

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-03/cdc-recommends-wearing-face-masks-during-coronavirus-pandemic

PS:
Here in Nigeria, Cross River and Abia states have decided to allow people to come out of their homes if they have face-masks on. The Government of Abia State even charged tailors to sew 3 million face-masks because imported face-masks are scarce right now.

We are waiting for the federal government to implement this policy nationally so that we can shut down the Coronavirus instead of shutting down our economy.

greatme2good:
What of during rainy season? Coz we are about entering the season.

I think it will spread faster. Especially in June (24°C - 30°C) and July-September (23°C - 29°C) which will still be considered warm elsewhere.

Fortunately, we have enough time to put a mask on every face, and enforce good hygienic practices like washing of hands before entering any market, store, school, church, bank, etc. Enough time to ramp up our testing capabilities massively so we can isolate almost every single person who has the virus, including those who haven't experienced any symptoms of the disease. Meanwhile, our economy can continue to run so that the taxes needed to fund NCDC's aggressive efforts will continue to be paid by profitable businesses and employed workers.

Effect Of Temperature On COVID-19: An Unscientific Investigation.

In the early days of the Coronavirus scourge, many Nigerians believed that we wouldn't be affected because of our hot weather. Now that we're testing people, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of confirmed cases, to about 210, which is still quite low for a country with 190 million residents. However many people suspect that the virus has penetrated our society far more deeply than the NCDC statistics suggest. We've noticed that people who travelled to colder countries recently or spend most of their time in air-conditioned spaces, or their direct contacts, are massively over-represented among the confirmed cases. Is this because they are the only ones being tested, or is heat a factor?

Here is the list of the 10 countries that have the highest number of active COVID-19 cases, and their forecasted temperatures for the day:
* USA has 257,790 active cases. The temperature forecast for New York is 8°C - 15°C.
* Italy has 85,388 active cases. The temperature forecast for Rome is 7°C - 25°C.
* Spain has 77,488 active cases. The temperature forecast for Madrid is 6°C - 19°C
* Germany has 65,309 active cases. The temperature forecast for Berlin is 1°C - 12°C
* France has 61,650 active cases. The temperature forecast for Paris is 6°C - 17°C
* UK has 34,428 active cases. The temperature forecast for London is 4°C - 16°C
* Iran has 31,954 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tehran is 8°C - 19°C
* Turkey has 20,012 active cases. The temperature forecast for Istanbul is 8°C - 11°C
* Switzerland has 14,169 active cases. The temperature forecast for Geneva is 3°C - 17°C
* Netherlands has 13,986 active cases. The temperature forecast for Amsterdam is 4°C - 14°C

On average, the top ten countries with Coronavirus have a temperature forecast of 5.5 - 16.5°C. The temperature forecast for Lagos is 26°C - 34°C, and for Abuja, it's 24°C - 36°C. This is a massive, massive difference! The maximum temperature of nine of the countries above is lower than the minimum temperature of Lagos. The maximum temperature of 7 of those countries is lower than the minimum thermostat setting of most Nigerian air-conditioners (18°C).

The countries mentioned above are in Africa, Asia or Europe. What about Africa? Here's our top 5:
* South Africa has 1,401 active cases. The temperature forecast for Johannesburg is 9°C - 15°C.
* Algeria has 1,004 active cases. The temperature forecast for Algiers is 9°C - 17°C.
* Egypt has 703 active cases. The temperature forecast for Cairo is 24°C - 34°C.¹
* Tunisia has 472 active cases. The temperature forecast for Tunis is 8°C - 17°C.
* Burkina Faso has 236 active cases. The temperature forecast for Ouagadougou is 28°C - 43°C. ^1
1 The Egypt data is misleading because the their average temperature last month was 11.6°C to 26°C, but Burkina Faso is a legitimate outlier; the country is much hotter than Nigeria.

The above data, in spite of the outlier, is enough to convince me that the Coronavirus likes cold weather and probably spreads faster in cold places, such as air-conditioned cars, offices, and homes. This, apart from the lack of testing, may explain why we are yet to see as many cases of transmission outside the circles of travellers and the rich and powerful in Nigeria as expected. It is consistent with what we know about other respiratory illnesses, and why countries like the US expect the disease to slow down in their summer season (starting from June).

When I see videos of Lagos officials spraying open areas e.g. roads & sidewalks in Lagos, I have to laugh, because I strongly suspect that, if they actually bothered to test for the presence of the virus on those surfaces, they'd find nothing at all because the sun already sterilized them.

Knowing that the virus hates our hot temperature gives me hope. If a cold country like South Korea (0°C -13°C forecast for today) could beat the virus without destroying their economy by imposing a total lockdown, a constantly hot country like Nigeria could do much better if we used the same tactics. We need to start testing people who have had close contact with confirmed cases before they show symptoms. We also need to enforce universal wearing of face-masks and social distancing everywhere, which in itself may even be sufficient to end the virus.

May your days be bright and hot. May your air-conditioners be off and your windows wide open (to get rid of aerosolized droplets). Cheers.

PS: I always make a lot of mistakes when I post long articles, so if you spot any errors, omissions, or false statements, please correct me.