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Pastor AIO: I found this on a website and thought it quite interesting and pertinent to this thread. Apparently this happened in a discussion between Dawkins and a Rabbi.

Here's a pertinent quote:
The author insisted, however, that he was referring to the God of the Old Testament as he actually appears in the text. This prompted Lord Sachs to accuse Dawkins of reading the Bible "literally, as a fundamentalist."
"How do you decide which bits are symbolic and which bits are not?" Dawkins later asked.
"Very simple," the Chief Rabbi replied. "The rabbis in the 10th century laid down the following principle: if a biblical narrative is incompatible with established scientific fact, it is not to be read literally."


http://theologica.ning.com/forum/topics/scientific-fact-determines-hermeneutic?page=2&commentId=2124612%3AComment%3A427428&x=1#2124612Comment427428

Pastor AIO: ......................
So you see, interpretation depends entirely on context. And the context in which you read the bible is not based on the bible. The Bible is subjected to the interpretation. The instructions for interpretation is not found within the bible, so therefore the bible is subject to another authority above it, [b]The Authority Of The Interpreter.
Actually this applies to all text, not just the bible, so Koranist should also take note.

Pastor AIO: cool, my only concern now is that 'the spirit of God' can only be applied to the bible. Why can't the 'spirit' give me a new perspective when I read the morning paper? Why can't i use the 'spirit' to read my memo when I get to work? this will surely give me some deep insights that will make me an asset to my company.

Seewealth: all of you are talking from Christianity point of view. have you ever thought of others whose religions are not Christianity. according to the bible, there is NO OTHER WAY to God except through Christ. this means all other religions are deceiving themselves, hence MUST go to hell for not going through Christ.Christians are only about 1/3 of world population. these people also believe in their religion with passion the way you do.remember if you were not born into a christian family, you wouldn't be a christian. think about it and please don't pretend you don't know that other religions exist.

truthislight: The resurrected dead will be judged based on what?
Their passed deed? No.

The wages of sin is death Romans 6:23.

havent died, they have paid for their passed sins, Romans 6:7
they come out on a clean slate.

ghazzal: Did u not read from above that the wages of sin is death. And since all hv died, the sin is erased already. What is there to be judged for again!

seyibrown: Do not confuse physical death with spiritual death. Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is (spiritual/eternal) death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. You get eternal life or eternal death. If the death referred to in Romans 6:23 was physical death and sinners died a physical death because of sin then we would expect righteous people not to die a physical death.

ghazzal: i dont seem to get you!
Are you saying that the eternal life is not physical eternal life?
Then read Rev 21:4.

vicoson: If God is a God of justice, how will sinners be rewarded for the little good they did?

ghazzal: Did u not read from above that the wages of sin is death. And since all hv died, the sin is erased already. What is there to be judged for again!

OLAADEGBU: "You are my strength when I am weak

You are the treasure that I seek
You are my all in all
Seeking you like a precious Jewel
Lord, to give up I'd be a fool
You are my all in all[/b]

Jesus, Lamb of God
Worthy is your name
Jesus, Lamb of God
Worthy is your name

Taking my sin, my cross my shame,
Rising again, I praise your name,
You are my all in all,
When I fall down you pick me up,
When I run dry, you fill my cup,
You are my all in all.

Jesus, Lamb of God
Worthy is your name
Jesus, Lamb of God
Worthy is your name"

sconsults: chei .Another mad man.please try and see a psychiatrist because hallucination and delusions is a serious mental case before you start seeing 72 virgins and then bomb people so that you can meet them

obadiah777: sup my main man Seriallink. OH YES BRAH, HARDCORE SLAVERY IN HEAVEN. RECIPROCAL SLAVERY FOR THOSE WHO DID SLAVERY ON EARTH. THE LORD AINT FORGET ABOUT THE TRANSATLANTIC SLAVERY. THE LORD REQUIRETH THAT WHICH IS PAST. JUST BECAUSE JUSTICE IS NOT SPEEDILY EXECUTED AGAINST A CRIME DONT MEAN THE LORD HAS FORGOTTEN. A DAY TO THE LORD IS LIKE 1000 YEARS TO MAN. THOSE HEATHENS ARE ABOUT TO GO IN SLAVERY WHICH WILL BE A PART OF THEIR SECOND DEATH. YOU READ IT HERE FIRST. WHEN IT ALL STARTS UNFOLDING THE LORD WILL BRING YOUR MIND TO THIS POST. AND LIKE YOUNG JOC SAID ? ITS GOING DOWN AND ITS GUARANTEED TO GO DOWN

mekaboy: SO GOD LEFT MEN OF GOD WITH GREAT NUMBER OF MEMBERS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE INFLUENCE.TO REACH.OUT TO.NIGERIANS, PEOPLE WHO.NIGERIANS WILL LISTEN TO.TO COME AND TELL YOU TO WARN NIGERIA. SO ITS ON.FACEBOOK AND.NAIRALAND THAT YOU WARN ALL.NIGERIANS.U POSTED A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK WHICH ONLY A FEW OF YOUR FRIENDS CAN SEE.AND YOU ONLY TOLD YOUR PASTOR AND NL.
SO HOW MANY NIGERIANS HAVE YOU WARNED.?HOW MANY.NIGERIANS CAN HEAR YOU?SO GOD TOLD YOU THAT HE TOLD YOU TO GO AND WARN NIGERIANS AND YOU REFUSED?WHERE DID HE TELL YOU TO GO AND WARN THEM?IS THERE A.SINGLE PLACE WHERE ALL NIGERIANS GATHER.?GOD TOLD YOU TO WARN NIGERIANS AND U.WENT TO WARN UR PASTOR.DID U GO TO THE RADIO OR TV STATIONS TO SAY.WHAT.YOU HEARD?

IF GOD WILL LEAVE ALL THE MEN OF GOD AND DEPEND OB YOU TO DELIVER A.MESSAGE.TO ALL NIGERIANS , THEN YOU MUST BE A GREAT PROPHET.

CHECK.YOU.BP OFTEN, REDUCE YOUR GARRI AND GROUNDNUT INTAKE.

MAKE SURE U EAT WELL AND HEALTHY BEFORE SLEEPING.

REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FICTION MOVIES YOU WATCH.

God left all the able-bodied, strong, adult Israelites - including Saul, the King, who was 'a man of great stature' - and chose 'little' David to conquer 'giant' Goliath with a sling and stone! Where have you been?

plaetton: First,are you saying that you have never written that whatever exists must have a beginning?

It is very much like you to dodge or ignore my question and then jump into my definition of energy.

That energy can neither be created nor destroyed is a scientific model that all have come to accept. It is not my definition. It is the standard definition. Are you conceding that god is energy?
Deepsight had come fulll circle to to agree as much.
Have you?

ayoola2002: U can't understand enjoyment of having two wives.