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Christianity EtcRe: I Saw A UFO Last Night!!! by seyibrown(f): 12:16am On Oct 24, 2012
CrazyMan: Which one is frosbela again? Is frosbel now married? sad

@topic.

Awake from your hallucination...its morning already.

But emmm...I found your story interesting though.
grin grin grin frosbel's wife or twin sista! grin grin

@ frosbela: Your protests are borne in mind! grin grin It's just hilarious to see someone lay claim to our beloved frosbel on NL with a user ID!
Christianity EtcRe: Present Dilemma by seyibrown(f): 9:30pm On Oct 23, 2012
If your friend were wise, they would remember the first time they neglected your advice. The more reason to give it to them straight this time. If it helps, just add that you do not mean to interfere. You'll feel even worse if they do not take your non-direct advice and come to harm again this time. They might be the one turning around to ask why you didn't tell them what exactly you saw.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is God Not Called The God Of Abraham, Isaac And Israel? by seyibrown(f):
In the Bible, the man Jacob, was mostly referred to as Jacob - even after he was renamed Israel by God, right up till his death. You will find that on most occassions where he was referred to as Israel there was some reference to his sons/family. Israel was mostly used to refer to Jacob's descendants collectively, while Jacob mostly reffered to the individual. 'The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob' ,therefore, follows as particular reference is being made to the God that these individuals served. 'God of Israel' is usually used to refer to the God of the descendants of Jacob collectively.
Christianity EtcRe: Present Dilemma by seyibrown(f): 3:06pm On Oct 23, 2012
Warn the person like you did the first time. Give it to them straight.
Christianity EtcRe: Can U 4give Ur Wife After Confesses To U That She Cheated On U by seyibrown(f): 2:50pm On Oct 23, 2012
nxanadu: if ur wife had serious problem wit u & u beat her up b4 going to ur biz. in d morning, she now went to meet her x-guy who always treat her right to sleep with her. after like 2 months, u guys came back at right. her conscience could not allow her. she could not pray well any more to God. she's always angry with herself for sleeping wit another man after marriage. she couldn't hold it no more that she woke u up one night to confess to u. what would u do?
You cheated on her first by beating her up. You are to honour and love your wife like Christ loved the Church, you cheated her out of her portion of honour and love. Whether you can forgive her? Why not? She has forgiven you for cheating on her too(if she hasn't she won't be confessing her adultery to you). Remember part of the Lord's prayer ' forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us'.

Next time, don't cheat her out of the honour and love she is due from you, and she will not feel so disrepected, dishonoured and vulnerable enough to foolishly seek solace in the arms of another man. A godly man keeps his own house, not tear it down with his own hands.
Christianity EtcRe: Where does Satan currently live? by seyibrown(f): 2:34pm On Oct 23, 2012
Mecca in Saudi Arabia .. that's why millions of people go there every year to stone him! cool
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont Love Him. But He Said He Heard From God by seyibrown(f): 2:17pm On Oct 23, 2012
preshuzpearl: you know, it's not such a bad idea to tell God to choose what kind of car to buy. take for instance now, u r single or just got married and u plan to have just 2 kids. definitely, u wouldn't think of a car bus. but then, if u had asked God, he might tell you to not to get a small car cos he has seen the end and knows that you will finally have six kids or that families might turn up to stay, or that u may need to change the use of the vehicle from personal to business,etc .
the point here is, i don't believe there's ANY aspect of our lives God is not interested in.
Absolutely! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont Love Him. But He Said He Heard From God by seyibrown(f):
atbu1983: . I am referring to marriage proposals. How many women God spoke to first before the man in the bible in terms of marriage proposal?
SELFWORTH: None. I agree. Men sought out their prospective wives . Men are destined to be hunters. This is biblical. Chasing after a man on the excuse of dream, revelation or prayer is ungodly .
While I know of no explicit records of a woman being spoken to before the man in the Bible, I would like to point out the story of Ruth and Boaz. Ruth, being led by her godly mother-in-law, made the first move on Boaz, albeit subtly at first. She made sure he came in contact with her, and then she indicated she wanted to be 'covered' by him (of all the eligible kinsmen). Then Boaz got the message then went on to carry out the procedures required to marry her as prescribed in Jewish law (Ruth being the widow of a near kinsman and the possibility of other eligible kinsmen wanting to take the responsibility)! There is no record of Boaz hearing from God before Ruth in this case, and ruth had followed the leading of a godly mother-in-law. Ruth singled out 'the choice', made herself 'findable' and then 'made the first move'. Jesus came from this lineage.
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont Love Him. But He Said He Heard From God by seyibrown(f):
belabela: @ preshuzpearl,

The basis of a christian marriage is God's word and that is you marry whosoever you wish in the Lord. What else would you want the Lord to add? What was it that God told them? That she was their wife or he was their husband? If the Lord says he/she is in the Lord then God is speaking to them. But to claim God said a particular person is your wife or husband that means God has taking away from such individual their right to choose. Then that's not God. God has children not zombies.

I am familiar with the fraud in the Nigerian church. The idea of seeing visions has led many to dreaming up all sorts and even telling men and women words like "God has rejected you" many now claim they have been betrothed to a particular man/woman by God. All these are heresy

Marriage is not a bed of roses. Every sweet marriage has its challenges. So if a man has a challenge in his marriage and claims he was in it because of what God said to him, then he may actually be on his way out. And may not even understand marriage. God hates divorce. Whether you married him/her when you are an unbeliever or not, God hates divorce. So for Christians divorce is not a choice. And when I say Christians I mean those in the Lord not necessarily pastors or church members.
Well said ... but you can still ask God to choose for you. Nothing stops a child of God from saying 'Daddy, you know me inside and out and even more than I know myself. You know what I love in a partner, the kind of person I love to be with. I would love to honour you in my marriage and want my family to be a cause for praise to you. Please choose for me, Father!

I believe asking God to choose is the best option where there you find there are two or more to choose from (this is usually the case if you are identifying potential partners from a number of brothers and sisters who are in the Lord) or where it is a case of re-marrying (and the first one ended in divorce). This way you are placing that freewill God gave you back in his hands ... and he will order your steps to the person he has chosen for you (because you asked him to choose for you). God will choose for you if you ask him to. Ask him for a sign to know that person and he will give you the sign too. It helps if you are someone who regularly asks God for direction in all matters.
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont Love Him. But He Said He Heard From God by seyibrown(f):
belabela: @ Poster

Let me start by saying to you that God does not choose a wife for any man but he does order the steps of men. He made the woman for the man, but did not force the woman on the man. It was Adam who loved Eve and said "This is the bone of my bone and the flesh of my flesh" That's what love does to a man. He started running commentary grin

God did not choose Gomer for Hosea rather. He instructed him to choose from the daughter of fornication and He chose Gomer.

The new testament is clear on God's will about marriage. Christians are encouraged to marry ONLY in the Lord. This does not necessarily mean in your church because there are many in the church who are not in the Lord. Even in the Corinthian church there was a young man who was sleeping with his step mother. He too was in the church but not in the Lord. If you take your time to study revelation chapters 1, 2 and 3, you will also find out there were many in the seven churches that were not in the Lord.

What does the bible say about a woman's choice?

"A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord." - I Corinthians 7: 39

A woman is free to marry anyone she wishes but He must be in the Lord. Let no man tell you God said you are his wife and so persuade you to marry him. God works through divine providence. If you will be his wife you will marry him. But you must realize you have your choice. If you are a christian the Spirit of God will bear witness with your spirit that you are doing right.

Btw even if God had spoken to that young man, he is not meant to tell you that. Did God ask him to tell you that? I think some men need to mature. Don't somehow get yourself into bondage because somebody said God said something. I pray Nigerian church will go back to the bible and not myths which seemingly sound right but scripturally baseless.
Wonderful! smiley

kitty kat: I remember ealry this year, a youngman said I was his wife. He said he had fasted and prayed and was ending that morning and told God that anyone that pinGs him forst that morninG is his wife. As fate would have it "rebekah -me" pinged "Iscaac" first. Bros no gree hear anything else o. I told him that his revelation was flawed for reasons I won't disclose here. It obviously meant that his GOd wasn't Omniscience. God speaks but most of us are sufferinG from emotionalism and manipulative tendencies.

A week later bros enGaGed another sister. His God must be Jah Sharp Sharp.
grin grin grin Lots of weak-minded sisters have been 419ed by 'God-said' brothers! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Dealing With Depression & Suicidal Thoughts As An Atheist. logicboy Confesses. by seyibrown(f): 10:04pm On Oct 22, 2012
Logicboy03,

How is it fair to take out your frustrations on those who do not share your dis-belief? If you are very confident in your atheism, you should have peace in it and as such should have no frustrations in the matter of faith to take out on believers.
Christianity EtcRe: I Dont Love Him. But He Said He Heard From God by seyibrown(f): 5:22pm On Oct 22, 2012
I would say, the guy in question just caused unnecessary confusion for you. All he head to do was ask you out, tell you he has honourable intentions and ask you to pray about it. Lots of undiscerning women get this kind of lie told to them and taken advantage of. He may be telling the truth but he hasn't applied wisdom. He may just be looking for s-e/x, he may just be looking to mess with your mind.

My advise: Pray about it. Ask God to show you if this person is using his name in vain. Find out more about him before you commit to anything. Is he truly a 'child of God' as he claims? If possible, test him (don't put yourself in any danger while doing this). The Bible tells us to test all spirits.
FashionRe: If A Bra Is Worth $2.5 Million, Is It Still A Bra? by seyibrown(f): 2:27pm On Oct 22, 2012
It's still a Bra, a 'wear only once in a blue moon' Bra! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 2:13pm On Oct 22, 2012
Logicboy03: I am not Yoruba. However, it is surprising that most Yorubas would abuse you for claiming that slavery was with them before the Whites came. Could you expand on how people from Ijebu were selling people to people in Ijesha? Slaves were never a comodity before the europeans came. The worst you could point to in Yoruba land was the Benin obas who buried their servants with them when they died. Which my tribe and some other Obas did not do.

Why should your bible regulate slavery? Your God was not strong enough to stop it? But he preferred to Kill gays in Sodom and Gommorrah?

Furthermore, if the bible regulates slavery, why should christians negate slavery? is the bible contradictory? Does it regulate slavery somewhere and banish it later?

Or are some christians good despite the nonsense in the bible?
cool cool
Remember one thing: Don't blame the Bible for a lifestyle that pre-dated its compilation. Find somebody else to blame for your confusion! grin grin

You are now tired and have no more sound arguments to put forward in defence of your original flawed argument! grin grin grin Have a Pepsi on me ... and a meatpie from Mr Biggs! grin grin End of discussion!
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 12:57pm On Oct 22, 2012
Logicboy03: Let me enumerate your epic fails, dude!

1) My argument is not for us to copy the British in everything they do. The point of the thread was to ask why the British dropped the christianity that they gave us!

2) Evolution is science. If you do not know what a scientific theory is, please learn. You propbably know what diseases are? Do you know that germs remain a theory? Germ theory!

3) Slavery.

It is normal for mental slaves like you to insult your ancestors who had pagan roots and glorify christian missionaries.

My tribe in the South 'south of Nigeria never had any history of slavery before the white men. There is no recorded history where slaves were a comodity in our history before the Europeans came. People farmed with their numerous wives and children and prisoners of war were killed. Efa festival was done with the heads of enemy tribes.

Do you honestly think it is easy to sell your brothers and sisters in a normal situation. Many of these people were in fear of the white men who had superior technology and weapons. Now, there is no denying that a few Africans would exploit this for their own gain.


Now unto black slavery. The European and American churches supported it for 300 years. Most major churches and christins did- the catholic, baptist, mormon, anglican etc.


The bible clearly supports slavery. Clearly. I have given you the passages. The bible never says that slave masters should be stoned but it says that gays and people who disobey the sabbath should be. Think for yourself


Kidnap in the old testament means stealing a Jewish/Hebrew/Isrealite person. thr than that the old testament allowed them to take people from other conquered lands.


You were allowed to beat a lsave in the old testament as long as he doesnt die.


----Concerning keeping religion private,


What it means to kep religion private means that you shouldnt enforce it on others. Now you can preach but you can not make religious laws or treat someone differently because he doesnt follow your religion.


Learn the meaning of things before arguing on them.


I dont need to convert peeps to atheism, i am fine with agnostics, desist and skeptical christians and not you, fundamentalist xtians
Slavery existed before Mosaic Law. It was acceptable in that era. War and capturing slaves was the norm. Slavery definitely existed in Yorubaland before the white men came. Go back and read History. Hiding under the guise of 'no slavery in teh south-south where I came from' does not negate the fact that slavery was in existence before the white men came to Africa for slaves. Why you refuse to acknowledge that no Christian will back up slavery today with the Bible beats me. Slavery is illegal in this day and age. You deliberately refuse to acknowledge that wicked greedy people interpreted scriptures to suit them to enslave others and YOUR PEOPLE WHO DID NOT EVEN HAVE THE BIBLE MADE IT POSSIBLE BY KIDNAPPING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS AND SELLING THEM OFF AS SLAVES.

The Bible does not support slavery. The Bible regulated slavery as it was already in existence!
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 11:58am On Oct 22, 2012
davidylan: Actually i believe you deliberately ignored a salient part of his post to focus on the trivial issue he did not even pursue.

That is you constantly berate christians for not keeping their religion private while you spend 24 hrs here all day pursuing the atheist point of view. cheesy Liek he said - practice what you preach
That is exactly what he has done with every answer that has been given in countering his flawed argument. He started with asking why Naija xtians don't copy British ones and has now come to 'evolution being science'. grin grin

@Logicboy03

On the matter of the slavery that you failed to further your weak arguments in response to my counter-arguments, I have the following to add (and emphasise where already previously posted).

Yes, slavery is regulated in the Old Testament but it is unfortunate that people in the past pulled the wool over your eyes to support slavery and commit barbaric acts. Were those slaves treated as prescribed in the Bible? No, they were not. Did you read the Old Testament rules that apply to freeing slaves? No, you obviously haven't. Do you know the Old Testament differentiates between 'slavery' and 'kidnap'? No, you obviously don't. The Old Testament does not prescribe the maltreatment of slaves. Greedy Africans who did not have the gospel or the love of God in their hearts kidnapped their fellow countrymen and sold them as slaves. Greedy Slave buyers who had the gospel but did not have the love of God in their hearts treated the 'kidnapped people' inhumanely!

Slavery was already being practised before Mosaic Law. Israel was reminded not to maltreat strangers and remember how they were strangers in the land of Egypt. We should recall that they themselves were enslaved in Egypt where they were strangers, and if they were to be buying strangers as slaves, they were not allowed to treat them unfairly. Today slavery is illegal in most countries and christians will be going against the word of God should they enslave others given that they are required to submit to authority. No man who loves Christ will enslave another. The era of one community attcaking another and taking slaves has gone! It is however unfortunate that human trafficking (modern slavery), although illegal, still exists but it is not surprising as given the nature of man, give him a yard and he'll take a mile. A wicked man will always commit wickedness no matter the laws telling him not to do so.


Logicboy03: How does a christian teach biology- evolution that says that man evolved from a common ancestor with monkeys?
Think before you talk nonsense.
Evolution is A THEORY! The biological nature of man IS NOT! If you did not know this by now, you need to make a claim for you primary and secondary school fees! grin grin


Back to the matter of Naija Xtians and Brits Xtians, You confessed your motive for this thread here:
Logicboy03: Fail
My problem is not with the british but the religion.
Troll harder
I have some assurance for you on the matter. You do not need to worry about Christians being a threat to you: The majority of Christians are not Christian. They wolf in sheep's clothing! They actually belong to your side of the divide. You believe there is no God and behave likewise; They have no fear of God and behave likewise! Six and half a dozen, I say!

Remember, Practice what you preach by keeping your Atheism private; don't even breath a word about it to anyone else. Lead by example! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Has The Different Versions Of The Bible Affected You & Christianity by seyibrown(f): 11:30am On Oct 22, 2012
Ezeufi: If one version has 73 books and another version has 66 books, surely the message has not only changed but also purposefully distorted.
Has either the '73 book version' or the '66 book version' declared that the death and resurrection of Jesus and the salvation available by repentance and believing to be invalid?
IslamRe: Kano Releases N1.7Billion For Sallah Rams by seyibrown(f): 11:26am On Oct 22, 2012
Ram Bonus? How much do all the Kano VVF, decapitation victims and beggars get to assist their living? huh
Nairaland GeneralRe: LETTER To My Wife in Heaven..... by seyibrown(f): 11:23am On Oct 22, 2012
2Going dot com is clearly not dedicated to your deceased wife! Not nice to joke about something as serious as this! angry
Christianity EtcRe: Can Death-bed Repentance Lead A PersonTo Heaven? Many People Are Banking On This by seyibrown(f): 11:17am On Oct 22, 2012
Umartins1: The question is:

is there HEAVEN?? And does HELL exists??
No, the above is not the question! The premise of this thread is that 'Heaven exists'! The question is whether death-bed repentance will take them that heaven! Whether heaven and exists is on/for another thread, not this one! wink
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 12:57am On Oct 22, 2012
Logicboy03: Wrong

1) It is impossible to be rational when judging everything from a "faith" point of view. you can be christian and keep your beliefs private and separate from aspects of life.

2) Until religion is kept private and becomes a personal issue in Nigeria, we will still have some "dark ages" problems like witch beating
Following your atheist reasoning, you can be an atheist and keep your 'atheism' private and separate from aspects of life!
Following my christian reasoning, you cannot ask someone to give you their head without any part of the neck. A christian is a spirit-filled person of faith who believes in God. To ask them live the way you subscribe is to ask them to live without breathing oxygen!

Religion cannot be kept personal ... it is infectious! What you believe affects how you relate to your enviroment and the society. You are spreading atheism by not keeping it private ... why are you asking christians not to spread Xtianity! PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH, BROTHER! smiley I am tempted to open a counter thread in your honour titled 'THE IRRATIONALITY OF LOGICBOY03 BEING MORE ATHEIST THAN A TV REMOTE CONTROL' ... but I shall lie down and let the feeling pass! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f):
jagun007: Logicboy,

I think you got a lot of things wrong; no offences meant.

Nigeria, in terms of government and constitution, is as secular as Britain. We also run the same democracy; which has you know its own challenges.

In terms of religion, both countries still have the freedom of worship and religion clause in their constitutions. SO you can choose to be Christian, Muslim, Atheist, etc, whatever is convenient for you. Nobody will throw you in jail for not being a follower of a particular religion.

And finally, I live in the UK, and attend RCCG partly and, due to location changes sometimes, I also attend a church with loads of Britons and headed by strong British believers as the Senior Ministers and so on. The Church still does regular Outreaches to Mali, Kenya, France, Brazil, Columbia, and Germany. And a lot of Outreaches to states within the UK regularly. You can visit http://www.kt.org

Yes many upcoming generation, Youths and children, detest Christianity and Jesus. Many don't even know who Jesus is, they think he is Santa Claus who comes around at Christmas. This is because many Atheists and Boogieman believers have infiltrated the system and put some 'subtle' restrictions on true religious teachings of Christianity.

What is the result? At the moment the British society is in a complete mess. The citizens and youths are messed up morally and socially. The Government is crying out for help as they can not cope and not sure of the solution. Some months ago the Prime Minister David Cameron has to remind everyone on national media that Britain is a Christian State. Lots of Charities and Christian organisations are being encouraged to help with solving the societal and moral problems that are plaguing the populace. Do you know that statistics of regular Murders, Violence, and not to talk of people jumping in front of moving Trains daily? It is Scary. It is a normal thing now for my journey to work to be delayed due to 'Person Under a Train'. The sane people here knows that the Country needs to go back to 'basics'.

And these same British generation are willing to try out any other religion: Hindu, Voodoo, Witchcraft, Satanism, Budha, Snake Worship, Haloween, 'Harry Porter Religions' and so on in their bid to seek something higher that themselves. Anything but 'Christianity'. Or should I say 'anything but salvation thru JESUS Christ'. And whyhuh Because they do not want a 'Religion' that points out the 'Wickedness' in their Heart and constantly urging them to change and be righteous. Nooo, they don't want that Corrective religion. People want to be 'free'; free to do whatever they like. That is why Christianity is hated; probably by you too.

Logicboy, this topic is complex. So please leave it there. People freely want to believe in the existence, and they seek, higher spiritual powers. Many do Palm reading, Fortune telling, Ouija Boards, etc, etc, many others take refuge in Ecstasy and Hard Drugs to feel high. But they refuse to accommodate the 'logic' that 'what if' there is also the existence of a Master Spiritual Being who is the Source of all things Physical and Spiritual, and who Governs and will eventually Judge all things.

Until we all get back to right standing with God, we will never stop searching. Britain today is enjoying and leaving off the rich inheritance and Foundation left for them by their Believing Christian Fore-fathers. And as it happens a lot of times when way-ward upcoming generations take possession of such inheritance and squander everything in riotous living; so we see the British and indeed many other European Societies and Economies getting damaged, going downwards and downhill as they refuse The Truth. Many people are now leaving the UK and going back to their Countries. Why? people now see more prospects and security in their countries than in the UK system. And their Countries have more 'Religion'.

Whatever you think is working, outside the so called Christianity, is but shadows bro.
You talk true jare! The only reason for de-christianisation all over the world is to freely pursue ungodliness without the constant reminder of their departure from God and sound reasoning! Many so called unbelievers do not realise this is the sole reason for the propaganda. They are all being recruited into the anti-christ army and taking up 'arms' for the cause! The Atheist Jihad, I call it! cheesy

Logicboy03: Dont worry, bro. wink
1) Man evolved from a common ancestor with monkeys. Genesis is a lie.
2) There is no reason to believe in life after death. We know that when the brain shuts down r is damaged, one can not think. So, I'm guessing eternal sleep!
3) Pascal wager fails http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager
What are you going to evolve into in the years to come? Homo Atheist (from Homo Sapien) specie with wings for flight, extendable arms and legs and an anus under ur foot? grin grin

As for you guessing on eternal sleep, that's all you can do. Just Guess! I prefer faith to 'guess' aka uncertainty!


@Logicboy03 : Coming back to you on the slavery matter ... my bed calls!
Christianity EtcRe: A List Of Over 700 Inconsistencies In The Bible!!! by seyibrown(f): 12:22am On Oct 22, 2012
Gladly subscribing ... smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Can Death-bed Repentance Lead A PersonTo Heaven? Many People Are Banking On This by seyibrown(f): 12:17am On Oct 22, 2012
If their death-bed repentance is genuine, it could work ... but consider the parable in Luke 12:16 -20

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2012:%2016%20-%2020&version=NASB

[size=14pt]Luke 12:16-20[/size]
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
16 And He told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man was very productive. 17 And he began reasoning to himself, saying, ‘What shall I do, since I have no place to store my crops?’ 18 Then he said, ‘This is what I will do: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19 And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years to come; take your ease, eat, drink and be merry.”’ 20 But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night [a]your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?’


Looking at this parable, it is likely that they will not get a 'literal death-bed'. Their life may be taken in a second not leaving room for the repentance they had deliberately avoided all their life. Not everyone get's the chance to know they are going to be dead in the next minute. Nevertheless, God is ever merciful.
Christianity EtcRe: Has God Ever Answered Your Prayers Instantly? by seyibrown(f): 12:01am On Oct 22, 2012
@OP, That was a lovely testimony up there! Very funny though. I can imgaine how you felt! cheesy
FamilyRe: How Did Your Husband React/cope During Labour? by seyibrown(f): 11:49pm On Oct 21, 2012
[quote author=K,k]I can't even watch a video of childbirth not to talk of the real deal. I go enter coma[/quote]grin grin grin
FoodRe: Enugu Poisoned Meat: 6 Dead, 60 Hospitalized by seyibrown(f): 11:36pm On Oct 21, 2012
[quote author=190-the-clown]when they wont stay in their homes,

always looking for free free meat to eat

I know say out of those 60hospitalized

48 would be NIGERIAN GIRLs cos them too like free meat undecided
[/quote]The incident happened in Enugu; Should they have been '48 Mongolian girls'? grin grin Just couldn't resist teasing you on this one! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Has The Different Versions Of The Bible Affected You & Christianity by seyibrown(f): 11:17pm On Oct 21, 2012
The message has not changed, regardless of the various translations. Many modern people will not find the KJV language attractive at all or even comprehend most of it. The availability of other versions in plainer English Language has helped people understand the message more. It has allowed for comparison where texts are not clear to the reader. also encouraged research into the word and the customs of the era in which the Testaments were written. It is a great advantage to the Gospel to have the Bible in so many translations.

The next translation may be a 'text speak' one, for those who can't write or read english properly. wink
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 12:18am On Oct 21, 2012
@ Logicboy03:

I countered your misgivings about slavery in the Bible some 7 posts back. Please, check. Off to bed now. Sleep tight. Nice thread! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 12:09am On Oct 21, 2012
SHOPPERS: @OP. One mistake you're making here is "generalisation". The fact that "most" British people are not attending churches does not mean that "All of Britain Don't"! It's not as if all Africans attend Churches too, or you no be African? Abi you dey attend church?

And I'm seriously wondering what concerns you about the fact that others are attending Churches- if you're not attending, fine. Leave others- you're turning yourself to "an Atheist Preacher/Fanatic!"
@ Logicboy03:

Is that a 'facepalm' of you giving up in defeat? SHOPPERS got your right there! grin grin! Especially with your confession as below:

Logicboy03:
Fail
My problem is not with the british but the religion.
Troll harder
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f):
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Logicboy03: Sharia courts, you say? What power and jurisdiction do they have? Hmm? Can they overrule British courts and their secular laws? They are mostly arbirary and can only be used when both parties agree.

Can you compare that to sharia courts in Nigeria or Saudi?
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What best life? To be intolerant of atheists and agnostics? To hate gays? lmao? For women to besilent in churches according to Paul in the new testament?
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Slavery is regulated in the bible and the same missionaries defended slavery. So shut up. Please read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/slavery_1.shtml
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Intolerance to unbelievers is the hallmark of religious morality
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Rubbish. We have seen many countries drop the importance of religion and maintain decency and development. That is the usual trend.
Where are the 85 Christian Courts of limited jurisdiction to match in an 'equality preaching society' since you argued that religious morality was problematic?

Yes, slavery is regulated in the Old Testament but it is unfortunate that people in the past pulled the wool over your eyes to support slavery and commit barbaric acts. Were those slaves treated as prescribed in the Bible? No, they were not. Did you read the Old Testament rules that apply to freeing slaves? No, you obviously haven't. Do you know the Old Testament differentiates between 'slavery' and 'kidnap'? No, you obviously don't. The Old Testament does not prescribe the maltreatment of slaves. Greedy Africans who did not have the gospel or the love of God in their hearts kidnapped their fellow countrymen and sold them as slaves. Greedy Slave buyers who had the gospel but did not have the love of God in their hearts treated the 'kidnapped people' inhumanely!

Christ commands all me to come to him as they are (includes ga.y.s, thieves, robbers, rapists, murders). When they come to him, they will know to love and obey him. Those who love God and obey his commandments do not practice sod.o/my, theft, fornication, adultery, lying, murder etc. You well know Christ commands to love God and all neighbours. Watching my neighbour go down a path of ruin is not any part of loving him. Loving him is pointing out his error and helping him change. Christ gives us freewill and that is why you are free to choose not to follow him.

Decency is issuing contraceptives to 11 and 12 year olds? Innit? grin grin Decency is upholding the human rights of the offender and at the expense of justice to the victim, and his own human rights? angry angry

This world has gone to the dogs. Following God's commandments in spirit and in truth is the only hope we have!


Logicboy03: Fail
My problem is not with the british but the religion.
Troll harder
Just found this confession of yours! grin grin grin Your problem is Christianity! Or is it Christ? You prefer man who believes he is not accountable to God (secularism) to be your Lord, rather than Christ. grin grin You shouldn't have brought Britain into it in the first place. You should have approached it like this: Nigerian Christians, why don't you forsake Christ to become atheists?
Christianity EtcRe: The Irrationality Of Being More "Christian" Than The British by seyibrown(f): 11:07pm On Oct 20, 2012
Logicboy03: Oh you have finally decided to answer the question and stopped accusing me of being a "follow-follow" of Britain? grin grin
You failed. Britain moved away from christianity because

a) The realised that laws based on christian or religious morality are quite problematic. They do not support a multicultural and multi-religous country or pluralism
b) They realised the many flaws of christianity. They realised that a christian doctrine suupported the slavery which they engaged in and later abolished.
Are you aware that the UK has at least 85 Sharia Courts(with limited jusridiction at this point in time)? Your argument that they realised that laws based on 'religious morality are problematic' holds no water. The de-christianising of this country has nothing to do with regrets on slavery, in fact, christian missionaries fought against slavery. The majority just do not want to be accountable to an almighty God who gives guidance on how to best live life. While this rebellion is open in the UK, it is not so in Nigeria. How many Nigerian leaderrs can boldly stand up to say there is no God or they do not belive in God. All that said, many Britons are returning to Christ, and those who never knew him before are discovering him.

Christ is not holding Nigeria back from taking it's place among the world's most advanced countries; Give Nigeria transparency, accountability to the electorate and a working justice system, and it's citizens hearts that love their neighbours (as prescribed by God), and you will have a very healthy, balanced advanced country on your hands.

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