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Jesus did not just die; He DIED and RESURRECTED on the third day! God and his spirit can not die because they are eternal. You very well do know that the man can only kill the body. JESUS died for three days. God did not die, the Holy Spirit did not die. JESUS DID NOT REMAIN IN THE GRAVE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT KILL ANY PART OF GOD.  His death on the cross and being in the grave for three days was to accomplish the work of salvation. When the work was finished, that which is only possible by the Spirit of God happened, THE ONE THAT WAS DEAD CAME BACK TO LIFE! Glory to God! That which man thought was impossible happened. That which the Devil did not expect happened. Jesus not only died and ressurected, he took away the power of death! It was predicted in the Old testament:

Could it have been that a man who called himself a servant, who also spent night and day begging God that he does not want to die, finally got his wish, if he were a prophet,that God answered his prayer,since an Angel (Jibril AS) was sent to support him, so that he did not die after all,but made to look so in the eyes of those who would do him harm? Why would a God be begging another God who sent mere Angel to support this God? I wish you know how the Jews calculate their day; sundown to the next sundown. Calculate three days and three nights forme from Friday evening to Sunday morning?

Seyi, you can do addition. Calculate 3 days, to include three days and three nights, for me, starting from Friday evening befor sunset to sunday morning before sunrise. If you get 3 days of the gregorian calender, calculate it in the jewish lunar calculation of sundown to the following sundown to make a day? A cave is not a grave. A grave is always dug, and dirt is put on the deceased. A cave at best is a dugout, like where the baseball players sit during game, between innings. I wonder why a jewish woman or women will put oil on the body of a dead jew? Lol. I say the servant didn't die. he just got hurt and aching from the serious beating.

ANd today, the Christians die. Just this year, Oral Roberts died. Seyi. May God make you live a long life. Amin. Yet after all my prayer for you, you will die. So what did Jesus really accomplish, except that you live a euphoric life of lies making him a god? The man collapsed. They dragged him off to a cave. They nursed him to health and you claim that he died and came back to live after rendering  death powerless, yet he didn't remain on earth, he was lifted up by God, saving him from those who would do him harm, and christians still die. Now tell me the rational of your claims? What ground are you saying any of these, all of it, I ask you?

Grave Jesus did not go into. No grave dug.No dirt put on him, different condition as Jonah was swallowed by a whale, swimming to the depth of the sea, yet Jonah was alive, supplicating to Allah thus"Laa ilaha anta. Subhannaka, inni kuntum minal dhulimin". If Jesus was a true prophet of Yahweh, his condition would have been exactly as he said "my sign will be like the sign of Jonah", when they asked him for a sign.

[b] Mark 15:25-47 (King James Version)

25And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

26And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.

27And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left.

28And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.

29And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,

30Save thyself, and come down from the cross.

31Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

32Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

33And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

34And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

35And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias.

36And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down.

37And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

38And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

39And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.

40There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

41(Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.

42And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,

43Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

44And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.

45And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.

46And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.

47And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.



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KunleOshob:
@seyibrown
According to the Strong's bible concordance which translates the bible from the original hebrew/greek text adultery is defined as "when a woman breaks wedlock" and not when either of the couples break it. Adultery only happens when a married woman is involved and that is why men of God in the bible could have more than one wife and in some cases even concubines. The truth is that what holds for the woman is not what holds for the man biblical. The man is seen as the owner of the wife and the man could decide to stick to one wife or acquire more.

Before Abraham, we had Adam. You must agree. God made Adam and Eve, mates, husband and wife. Even you mentioned in the Bible that it was filthy thing that Noah;s daughters had sex with their father, forgetting that other people entered the ship with Noah.

There is nowhere in the Bible where it is written that Noah's daughters had sex with him

You are correct. So I read Genesis 9: 20to 27 which is about sex on him by his son or grandson. This is a worse case.

Genesis 9 verses 20 to 27, his son and or his grandson Canaan slept with him. He cursed Canaan. Why? Now I support my proposal with Leviticus 18 verse 6 to 18, and Leviticus 20 verse 17,to proof what seeing the unclothed of a person means. How about Lotand his daughters? Read Genesis 19 verses30 to 35, and you will now know that your non verbal Ghost can hear and speak to people, but only human servants, Messengers and Prophets hear God's Words and repeat them, exactly to the people.

And after all of that, Jesus himself declared "Of my own power, I can do nothing, . . . ." Why this, if the above is correct? Why the above if the immediate above line is correct? I tell you, Seyibrown, to believe in Jesus and rely on him in that verse, means the same as in every case of every prophet (AS) when they talk to their audience. If the children of israel did not rely and believed in Moses when he was fighting Pharaoh, they will still be there as slaves today. They would never have exited as they did, victoriously in the Exodus. I will just let you chew on this and them if you wish read the Quran. In the Quran, you will find verses from God Almighty the irresistible telling believers to "rely and trust (Follow, Obey, Answer Muhammad when he calls you to what will give you LIFE [Spiritual Life]).

Could it have been that a man who called himself a servant, who also spent night and day begging God that he does not want to die, finally got his wish, if he were a prophet,that God answered his prayer,since an Angel (Jibril AS) was sent to support him, so that he did not die after all,but made to look so in the eyes of those who would do him harm? Why would a God be begging another God who sent mere Angel to support this God? I wish you know how the Jews calculate their day; sundown to the next sundown. Calculate three days and three nights forme from Friday evening to Sunday morning?

A part of God was begging another part of God, before the part begged sent His angel to support the part which was begging? Who is the Angel of jesus, snce we know the Angels of God include Gabriel,Michael,and uncountable pool of angels? If your child were to come from school with this type of story to you, that some friend in boarding school went to upper class man, who make him cut the grass behind the dorm. Before that, he had boasted that he was equal to the upper class man who now made to eat his words by sending him in the hot june midday heat to the field. If your child was in the first form, will you not tell him that the sign that the boy who was sent to cut the grass being not equal to the one who sent him to do it, are many and not limited to just not being in the same classroom. But it includes the fact that he will never be able to make the one who sent him to cut the grass do the same. The authority over the one subordinate is one directional. Yet this example is only a similitude, but inferior to God's Absolute Authority over Jesus, His servant whom He sent to the Jews, for the last time from among them, before turning to the other branch of the family tree of Ibrahim (AS), to choose the last Messenger and Prophet for the whole world, for the very first time.

You didn't. If you thought you did, it was only in your mind and the singular issue, if nothing else that betrays the lie of Godship of Jesus came from the mouth of Jesus himself " I am a servant sent". Seyi, you cant beat that. I will ignore his many prayers, his crying,weeping to the point that his disciples noted it (we muslims weep at night in prayers, too, when you supplicate the Almighty in darkness, standing up,bowing and prostrating yourself), that he was in difficulty and seeking the Aid of the One Whose Help should be sort. Muhammad (AS) went to heaven and beyond and came back in a part of a single night. Yet he is only a messenger, a human messenger to all. God never sent a celestarl being like Angel to mankind, but man the same kind as mankind, his audience are always the ones sent.

You ignoring the verse of "I'm powerless", says Jesus, will not make it go away. You are stuck with it in your Bible. It kills the idea of Jesus as anything but a messenger at best which the Jew denied him.

And jesus forgot to tell you and yet you can find authority in him? You fall for everything because you are standing on nothing, just like of ,my own power, I can do nothing.

He was not arrogant like the one who had said when you see me you have seen God, when he knew he was a messenger sent. I do believe that that statement of God and me are exactly alive was thrown on him, because there is no one who was given revelation a message to deliver will ever say I am God, the Sender.

It is therefore prudent when Muslims see hadith to analyze it so that it is calibrated as authentic, if it agrees with Quran, most importantly, and when it disagrees with Quran, you doknow that it is incorrect. This is similar to and it is exactly with how we, the muslims analyze your Biblical verses; One talking about One God, Jesus His servant sent, who must depend on that God because he is "Powerless", while on the other the talk is "Jesus is God himself, the master, most powerful and does everything". The question will be that we go back to Taurah and Sabur to support the part that God is One, Complete in all respects, without a need for anything, having human servants, created without mother or father, with father and mother, so it is not surprising that He created a servant with only mother because He is Capable and no one can challenge Him because He has All The Power[s]. We then relate this to what He says about Himself in the Quran, to know that it is true and the part in the New Testament talking about Jesus as anything other that servant is false.

The only verse it is deemed possible by normal mind that "said by Jesus himself", is applicable is the one that I provide, where "MY" is the indicator of the speaker, while all that you provide, is without doubt at best "statement[s]" of third person[s], about a wish list on Jesus, because of the "he, him, etc" used. Read them again. Then write two stories with one indicating My and the other He, His, etc and ask knowledgeable people to assess the person who is writing relative to the person who the writer is talking about. You will find out that everyone will agree that the "My" is talking about himself, while the "He,his, etc" is talking about a third person. The Only ENTITY that can say HE, HIM, HIS, US, WE for Himself of just My, Me, etc is God Almighty and jesus knocked himself out of you possibly using this to make him "God" by his many statements, including the "My"above along with "I am a servant sent by God" and others.

You are a yoruba woman, and we have a proverb about stubbornness. They say "Pami nku soribenbe soko". I asked you to give me the essence of the message if you insist that its from God. Neither you have given evidence of. Acts of Apostles couldnt have been written by God, or revealed by God. Note that for your future references to the authenticity of the Bible as word of God.

What is that message of God, from Hsis word, even though we see "Gospel according to Luke", unless Luke is God in this case?

If you are now saying that the ghost's name is exactly that of the Father,then I wonder why there is Trinity or why the son has a different name; Jesus? maybe both are lies by the Bible Authors? Remember that "Gospel According to Luke" can be construed as coming from God, except if Luke its Author was playing God, then? Lol. Seyi o. Then you will have Ester playing God. So will John. So will Writer of Corinthians! How many books in the Bible? You will have the author of each book playing God. Thats a big and gigantic serious issue.

WHich Gospel is this; John, Luke, Mark, Matthew or Paul's the writer of Corinthians?

There is no Gospel of Christ.And Image of God in what sense;Look, act,what? Jesus didn't know everything. Infat he was powerless, according to him. Is this because God was grieved in making man that Jesus is His image, and knew not the future and or God has Jewish look and human characteristics? Seyi, someday, you will finally get it. I know for a fact Allah is not your god, and and all that you said of trinity and God or god that you worship. Above them is my Creator Whohas no equal.

Lol. You are so funny.The bold is classic. Now, jesus didnt promise the communication without recording it in the book first, since the authority who saw and knew him, the disciples took the pain to record what he said, in the "Gospel according to. . . . "?  You are talking without evidence here.

If rotten bone of Elisha can do it, why do you doubt Moses? You just dont know because the Bible didnt say it; an incomplete book will provide incomplete guidance.

You ignoring the verse of "I'm powerless", says Jesus, will not make it go away. You are stuck with it in your Bible. It kills the idea of Jesus as anything but a messenger at best which the Jew denied him.

And Genesis recorded something completely different. WHich one is wrong, while the other is wrong? A God's word, indeed, doing a 180 degree, all the way.

Contraction; Genesis!

And your relationship with Him then must be what he laid down, correctly.  Christianity is not it. Go to the Quran, before it is to late.

The message of the word of Aletheia will not be exactly like the word. Or are you saying that the Message which you call the Whole Bible is exactly the Word of God, message of the world and the word are exactly completely congruent? Then you have to tell me and everyone, the mindless part of the word and its mirror (message) have the Once upon a time parts, of "he said", "he went", etc and finally the works of the disciples in the "Acts", and opinions and ideas and instructions of people like Paul and others in the Books after Acts, are also words and messages of God. Please explain yourself.

I see a set up of "Once upon a time" phrase that usually begins "storytelling". But is the storyteller Luke, or somebody else, since it is "According to Luke" that we are dealing with here? I want you to sharpen your mind, so that you will learn something here. You may never change. But the truth is being told to you. Did Luke write to most excellent Theophillus? There is no proof he did and the passage above indicates some other person wrote at best, a listener to Luke, and at worse, who knows if it was a 10 generation hearsay

But this is a Gospel. If there is a test for the Text of word of God in the Bible,it should be the Gospel that must be foremost. You say jesus is God. You say God is speaking in the Bible. In fact, you say that the whole Bible is word of God. Not even word of any servant. SO now we look and find verse 3 above, and I will try to ignore all the others. But verse 3 I just cant. When we analyze it, we realize that if God was writing, it is peculiar that he will use "It seems good to me" as if it is now a discovery. This does not befit the All Knower, just as having a son or a consort does not befit Him of His Independence over all.

Please note that the write says to Theophillus that he has perfect understanding of all things from the very first, nullifies Jesus as the writer, since Jesus had no perfect understanding (knowledge) of the last hour. To write to the in order most excellent Theophillus, should not be the way God will write, or Jesus his servant, leader among his community, commanding them, as his God permits, and later was lifted off the earth and according to the christians idea of elevating him,"he did not write anything down", could not be the meek writer, writing to Most Excellent Theophillus.

I have asked you, many times to give me the proper name of the Holy Spirit, you and others, none of you have been able to. Maybe there is no Holy Spirit, like in the matter of there is a Jesus and A Yahweh. Maybe you people use Angel Gabriel, the errant runner as Holy Spirit? Am certain thats the one you call holy spirit, considering he was the one that appeared to Mary and she got pregnant after it. Maybe Aletheia can chime in on this matter. I need a proper name. Omo yoruba ni yin. Ko si nkonkon tio loruko, afi holy ghost yin nikon!

While your religion shows no mercy because Holy Spirit which you can provide a proper name of is disregarded, Islam is the only religion that all signs are forgiven, including association with Allah, the moment you stop! Your destination is in your hand. Its ironic that the Master Who can send the Holy Spirit on an errant [as He did send him, in your claim that the Holy Spirit is the another Comforter, hearing from God all that he must repeat (Though no one heard him speak), to the ignorants who he must remind, teach, show things none of which they were on the right course on, or knew before, and glorify Jesus], can be insulted, according to you. So is Jesus, according to you. Why not the same application to both of them, or why is Yahweh defending Holy Ghost, but not Himself, or Jesus? Do you have any suggestion, or it is just the blind faith again that we must accept, suckered in big time, as usual?

What is the truth here? Are you saying that the name of the holy ghost is Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonia, Elohim, Eloi, Jesus? Or what are you saying, since my given names are what my spirit is also know by. Alhamdulillah. My spirit is a muslim. In the book of Angels and Jinn (both specie do not have physical form that can be seen ordinarily. And we have Angels with us 24 hours a day, round the clock, recording our deeds, the moment that we are "Balaq" adults from the age of puberty), we see that the Jinn can actually fool the gullible who goes to the "Future Teller" to seek help, reach the dead.

If you are now saying that the ghost's name is exactly that of the Father,then I wonder why there is Trinity or why the son has a different name; Jesus? maybe both are lies by the Bible Authors? Remember that "Gospel According to Luke" can be construed as coming from God, except if Luke its Author was playing God, then? Lol. Seyi o. Then you will have Ester playing God. So will John. So will Writer of Corinthians! How many books in the Bible? You will have the author of each book playing God. Thats a big and gigantic serious issue.

Caution; If you duck the question, InshaAllah, obver a billion people will read this before I die.I ask Allah to make many of them Muslims because of your failure to defend your holy ghost and correctly identify the spirit, man who God sent after Jesus. Amin. Rabbana Takabbal minal Dua. Amin.

You are able to give me a name "jesus", the ghost that is so protected so much has no name! Seyi. Oje rora pelu iro nla nla yi. A part of God was begging another part of God, before the part begged sent His angel to support the part which was begging? Who is the Angel of jesus, snce we know the Angels of God include Gabriel,Michael,and uncountable pool of angels? If your child were to come from school with this type of story to you, that some friend in boarding school went to upper class man, who make him cut the grass behind the dorm. Before that, he had boasted that he was equal to the upper class man who now made to eat his words by sending him in the hot june midday heat to the field. If your child was in the first form, will you not tell him that the sign that the boy who was sent to cut the grass being not equal to the one who sent him to do it, are many and not limited to just not being in the same classroom. But it includes the fact that he will never be able to make the one who sent him to cut the grass do the same.

While Allah is the ONLY Bearer, your gods are three. Is the life of a servant with three masters he has to serve at the same time as comfortable (here comes the Comforter making it easy), as the servant that has a Master Who he is accessable to without installing a medium?

I only hope that before you night in this life that you see that there is no strength in three gods, sharing a single throne.

You are not listening to Jesus then. If you do, you could easily tell me what the Another Comforter led the disciple to, and from, what new things he taught, etc. The Another Comforter was supposed to deal only with the disciple and you are not one. Or did you live back then and stillremain alive? If this is the case, you are better than Jesus. Why are you not claiming god, too?

I guess when Satan was playing with jesus, taking him on the cliff, passing a loaf of bread in from of hungry jessu, etc, Satan was not acting on anyone, say in another town? Or indeed around the world? How was Satan able to cajole jesus and managed to deal with less important people at the same time? Think about it. The joke is on you. Rather, christianity and Trinity.

2 Corinthians 10:4 (King James Version)
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds


2 Corinthians 10:4 (New Living Translation)
4 [a]We use God’s mighty weapons, not worldly weapons, to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning and to destroy false arguments.

2 Corinthians 10:4 (New International Reader's Version)
4 The weapons I fight with are not the weapons the world uses. In fact, it is just the opposite. My weapons have the power of God to destroy the camps of the enemy.

And Jesus said he came to fulfill all of Moses's things. I wonder what Jesus did with the warss? Ah. he bought swords to prosecute his own, except the enemies were many and bold.

Give names and proofs. I read hadith and Quran. Muhammad (AS) said, in his family tree, from Adam to himself, there was no fornication or adultery. A man who was a virgin at 25 should not be taken as sexual deviant. How many men in their mid 20s that are virgins? If I am capable of no illegal sex, I wonder how my leader will be incapable? I do not do phone intimacy, video sex. And its common in this USA. And most of the women lobbying for it are christians. Good moral quality from daughters of God running after a slave like me, who is refusing them.

Have you been fantasizing about any 6 or 9 year olds? Have you asked for the hand of any 6 year old in marriage yet? Will you marry your 6 year old daughter off to a 45 yr old man? Will you allow a 30 year old man to marry and have carnal knowledge of your 9 year old daughter?

I love women passionately. So I restrict my sexual interest to my wife. Now, tell me if a woman born in 1990 6 or 9 in 2009? talk to me about the birth of Aisha, relative to her father's accepting islam which brought the divorce of her parents because her mother refused to enter islam?

Abu Bakr (RA) the father of Aisha (RA), was the first grown man to accept islam. He accepted it the very first year of revelation. Aisha's mother refused to enter islam with the whole family, so the parents were divorced. This left Aisha with her father. She must have been independent at that time, because she didnt need mom for any support. She was engaged to be married before the beginning of islam. But Islam started, and her father wanted to migrate to Ethiopia because the uslims were being oppressed, he wanted the family of the future husband to take their future wife from his hand.

They refused and because of his conversion, they called the who thing off. Fortunately, a man in makka said he will support and proptect Abu Bakr. Well, islam lasted 13 years in makka, before migration to madina. Now tell me how is Aisha 9 in the second year of Migration, when she was alive 15 years of Islam plus the years she was alibve before revelation? How is a woman engaged before marries a differen person much much later and you say she is 9, when she shouls be at least 17 to 21?

Please, read the following scriptures to see what Jesus answered to the question of whether he was the King of the Jews.

John 18:33-37

33 Then Pilate entered the headquarters again, summoned Jesus, and asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?”

34 Jesus answered, “Do you ask this on your own, or did others tell you about me?”

35 Pilate replied, “I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests have handed you over to me. What have you done?”

36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”

Pilate asked him, “So you are a king?”

37Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.”

You will agree that each time they ask Jesus, if he was sure or had an asnwer, he spoke directly to the question. I wonder why he is wobbly here? maybe he did not have an answer? I suspect he was not a king, since in his 33 years on earth, they called him a king, but he never mounted a throne. If he were, where is the throne? Even in heaven, from the Bible, there is One Throne and that belongs to Yahweh. He was not a king on earth,and not in heaven, either. I remember that the satan was telling him that he was given the whole of the world. jesus response was similar as the above. He was undecided.

I wonder what the use of Swords and the Bags that they purchase? You need to explain why sell all your cloths to buy ammonition, if you wish to live to tell the story?

You are married woman. The man and you expect Children. Whose name do they bear? WHose bloods do they carry? Arent you a happier woman when you have children? Now tell me about the children of jesus, and who carries his name by blood? Sorry he is God, he does not have to have children. No sex, because thats beneath God. However, Muhammad (AS) was a prophet like every prophet who married. I know John didnt.

Someday, you will wake up and see that God needs no son. Read your post. You call jesus God. At the same time you call him son of God. I guess he was the ghost that got his mama pregnant. You know what they call that: similar to the myth of the boy who killed his father so that he can marry his mother.

In heaven. A spirit, waiting for my time to be here on earth. Jesus wait was almost 2000 years less than mine. My wait is definitelyy less than that of my great, great, great garnd children, who will be here adter I have left.

Allah says that a time has come when people will be trooping into islam. It is happening today. Allah says Rome will defeat Parsia. It happened. Allah says Abu Lahab will die a disbeliever. Thats what happened 10 years later. Allah says Makka will be won. It happened like that. Allah says Makka is only for believers. The Saudi has her headquarters in Rihayd, so that no non muslim is invited to enter Makka. Allah says Masjid Aqsa. At that time it was ruin. Today A mosque named Aqsa is standing there. Are you satisfied? Allah says there will be people like you who envy, deride Muhammad, islam, etc. There are many of you on Nairaland. A christian friend of mine in DC was talking to me the other day he said the Muslims knocks their heads on the floor. I ignored his ignorance because in all the years I have been muslim, I have never knocked my head on the floor. Touching gently is knocking in the eye of the disbelievers. I understand that.

And dad in Nigeria who sired you will be proud of you rejecting him for somebody who does not share mom's bed. Your husband will be happy to know that the children you have for him now belong to an entity who did not keep you up some part of the nights. Good reasoning.

And jesus said "of my own power I can do nothing". Seyibrown, I now ask you where did he get the power to make you God's son? I say its a fake. You christians are status crazy. You remind of the man who married his daughter "illegally" to a senator. He wants elevation of his status in the community.

While the Bible recorded Jesus as God, we heard from the mouth of jesus that he was a servant sent. Muhammad (AS) said exactly the same thing, when people are saying jesus was God. I am even correcting you right here, right now to stop the madness of trinity. But you will not listen. I am on theside of Muhammad. You claim you are n=on the side of Jesus, but then you made him a god, when he said he was a servant? Who is wrong here, you or jesus? I already answered the rest in What the former Comforter left for another comforter to teach the believers. But of course, you are not going to tell me a thing the ghost correct you on, taught you that Jesus never taught, guided you into that jesus didnt. can you tell me a book I can read them from?

Is that name jesus or holy ghost? If not are those titles? clue, clue, clue>>>>Allah Al Qahar (The God Who is Irresistible).

Please list 3 of the 99 names of Allah so I can use them to explain better to you.[/Quote}The Irresistible. The Everliving. The Never Dying. The Only Sustainer. The ord of the Day of Judgment. The fashioner. The Recreator. The Creator. The Only Giver. The Restrictor.

Moses performed more miracles than him.

Moses was the scripture as you call the Bible.

If it makes you happy, live in your lies of the bold. A person who couldnt do anything by his own power wouldnt rise if he died, you know. When he begged (read your Bible for clarity), God will not allow them to kill him, so how could he have risen, when he didnt die, but just got "mashed up (jamaican lingo)"?

This is poor thinking. If you use Corinthians to support jesus, then did the writer of Corinthians know Jesus, being his disciple? Lets leave this till sometime in the future. I though Jesus ended the issue by Gospel? Oh. he didnt. he left it to the Another Comforter. How did this comforter memorialize his teaching, his correction, his reminding? Show e a book I can read it in so that you got it in a latter generation. If I remember correctly, jesus was talking to those disciples, alone, if you wanna go there. I am already there and you cant pick and chose, but must be consistent in this matter. You can say those people received the ghost, and you are receiving it now, since Jesus didnt say it like that, it must be your own makeup.

While man id not body and soul and spirit, but body and soul [spirit], it is almost absurd to use this as your basic argument for Trinity, a clearly 3 different entities. When man is alive, is his soul or his spirit still in the womb of the mother where he resided before birth? Or is his spirit and or his soul still with God who created them? Or his spirit and or soul still in the egg or spermatozoa in the body of mother and father respectively? Are either the spirit and or soul away from the person, if he were to be called a living man? When a man dies, his soul or his spirit leaves his body that is now lifeless. When you said Jesus died, did Yahweh and Ghost not died with son? Did they remain behind and what happened to Trinity? That concept must have vanished just as well. No? Please explain what happened to the 3 God heads at that time. I dont care about other times, but just that brief time you said Jesus was killed; Did Trinity (3 god heads remained, and each full of complete God? ETC).

Even though it is stated that there is a stage in the pregnancy that the soul and the record of the child is brought, there is encouragement of termination fo pregnancy. It is clear that the life of the mother is more important than the life of the unborn. If the life of the mother is in danger, common sense dictates that she should be saved over the baby, if one has to die. Further if a woman is despoiled, by whoever (And I ask God Who is the Only Protector, to protect everyone from this evil situation. Amin), if she does not want the baby, who should force her, under any decency or moral compass? Lets say she was ganged despoiled as thieves broke into her home. Shall we now force her to be a mother to a child from evil act?
I am a conservative muslim. We are supposed to be morally balanced.

I thought that was over with jesus? Sorry Jesus didnt complete it, so he gave it to another comforter. You are now saying that even the Biblical another comforter did bad job as well? No wonder you cant show even anything the another comforter said, and a book of reference so that I can read his "correction, teaching and reminding".

Correct. Everliving God does not have a child. What will be the purpose? But this Everliving God communicated in written book form and whoever follow the latest will certainly by that road map reach success; paradise (InshaAllah).

You should tell me. If God did reject it, it is absolute the litmus that jesus was not even a prophet. Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Inside the what he supplicated to God. God did not let him die. No damaged to his eyes, and other sensitive organs and parts, except scrapes on his skin. Jonah is less of a prophet, according to how you label jesus, a god in your eye. A bigger God rejected his prayer/supplication/request of not wishing to die. An his cry on the hanging tree is a proof that I did not make it up. he complained. Read your Bible and tell me, answer your own question, lady.

The bold is a proof that Muhammad was talking "revelation". Why would a man says that the mother of another man is the best of all women? A woman from a different tribe at that? Imagine that, since the jews think that the Arabs are nothing? Listen Seyibrown, there is no way I will say any woma is better than my mother, except of God commanded me to say it. Even to my wife, I tell her my mother is my first love, the greatest love of my life. And I tell my wife that her mother should be the greatest thing in her life, too.