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LouisThoro:
what has that got to do with my question?

LouisThoro:
^^^^^
You are mad.

You are a goat  of a person, you this imb.ecile./

Where did i state that i am the copyright owner?

Some dogs are realy very annoying. I.diot.

Go and read more on the meaning of plagiarism, mo ther fu cker.


I guess the picture on your profile was drawn by you and not stolen from somewhere?

Where did i ascribe this question to myself?

Oh my!    Looks like there is no need to answer LouisThoro's question at this point. You have other things to worry about other than working or killing yourself on the sabbath! Start by spending the sabbath learning how to conduct online discourse in a civil manner, and then other days as well. When you understand how to relate with other members of the society, you will have the capacity to understand what you should be doing on the Sabbath.

vescucci:
Tell me, how can someone purposely knowingly ascribe to the devil what one believes to be God's? I don't get it. Plus let's not forget the dudes are priests and they couldn't have thought things like the devil is as powerful as God.

LouisThoro:
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

If your father sends you and the houseboy on an errand, does that make you an houseboy? If your father sends you on an errand, does that make you a servant or an houseboy?

However you look at it, I am sure that I will not be my father. When jesus said he was the servant, are you saying that he was not the servant, but the Master? Please explain, with pure practicality. He cant be the Master and says he is the servant. Who is he not intending to impress? His followers who are eating everything up? Seyibrown, hopefully our conversation will yeild fruits in your heart and mine, too.

Read your own post. You said from the Bible, Jesus said to Peter "Get behind me, Satan!" I didnt say it. You said it. Rather the Bible said it. Rather jesus called one of his disciples by the name of Peter "SATAN".

A man who kills people; the mass murderers for example in their court sentences, the victims family are allowed to address them as to vent their sorrow on him. We hear many calling the Murderer "Satan". Everyone, including the Judge will say to the Murderer "You are a satan". When he is killed they will say we killed the devil. Where are you confused in any of these, since you say the devil lived inside Peter at that time? Jesus was speaking to the devil at that time too, unless Jesus was wrong. You can tell me. I will keep your secret about it on Nairaland.com.

If any man followed Jesus in his sexual or marital life, such a man will be ruined. There will never be a child to carry his blood forward. Such a man will contribute to huge pool of women without husbands and some will definitely work in sex industries.

A person who kills an evil man after he has been sentenced to die by the community, can we say he is a killer? Means and actions must agree. A person who comes to my home to kill me, if I kill him shall we say I am the killer here or I simply defend myself, exactly what is expected? And am much I love women, And I know so many Nigerian women that could be game if I press the issue. But because I follow Muhammad (AS), I restrict myself. Do you think I am better than Muhammad (AS)? If I restrict myself, what do you think he did? Who do you think I copied, or fashioned my restriction after? Its Muhammad my human hero. And as to his young wife or not, every man wants a young woman, unspoiled. I dont know if you know the year of the birth of Aisha relative to when his father and his house entered Islam? Can you tell me; is it before the beginning of revelation or after it? When if it is after it; give me year and event?

Muhammad never slept with a woman that he was no legally married to. I will not sleep with a woman unless I marry her, first.

And you need to reference Moses and other Jewish people leaders and prophets when you talk about wars and booties, etc.

He did not murder, kill, lie or 'capture women in war/raids and despoil them'; He did not marry many wives, (under-age or not), he did not have everyday sin assemblies with many wives or promote voyeurism'. He lived RIGHTEOUS! He set an example for us to follow.

Lets talk about the bold. He was asked if he was the king of the jews, he denied it. But you say he was a king at birth. Which one is the truth, because the other one is a lie? I have asked that they show me his place of being a king, in Israel or the nation of Judea? No one yet have shown it. This is what we call lie. He prepared for war by asking for disciples to arm themselves with swords and bags. When the war was starting, because of the crowd, he lied about sword being the end of those who lived by it. Moses lived by the sword, but he didnt die by it. Jesus didnt live by it, he was pierced to death by it. Shall we continue because your argument to me is not really convincing, since Jesus was not the only man who was never married. John son of Zachariyah did not. Also Muhammad was not the only one who fought. Moses did. David did. Solomon the wise did.

Muhammad was not the onky one who married. So were Moses, David, Solomon. And if Adam was not married, you and I and the rest of humanity would never have existed. And if Abraham was not married to sarah so Jesus and his bloodine would not have existed.

Muhammad married few women, compared to Solomon. Muhammad (AS) was in the middle course, not a Bachelor like Jesus and John, but did go as far as Solomon, the reason we are called "A nation in the middle course, which must not go into extreme in either end.

what will you say that Jesus did when he shouted "My God, my God why has Thou forsaken me?" He yielded to the temptation to blame God as it is what I clearly read here, or he honored God by obeying in his shout with full strength? I hope that God will be happy about your answer and what Jesus did, which is direct show of not agreeing with God. If you say to your husband "My Husband, my husband, why has thou forsaken me?", I wonder if he will be happy and you were happy with him when you wee saying it, or will you be disappointed?

In all things, there are things that God restricts Himself from doing. He will not come on land to sit with us and eat our food. He will not have to die. Think about a trillion things that you will do and God will not do. Each does not fit His Majesty. The yorubas say that A king may have everything, he will not have a sewing or cloth mending needle or kit. You will never as him if he has one, even in his bedroom. God will not have a family; A son, a woman that gave Him that son. parents, Him being a baby, a partner, etc. It just not fit His Majesty.

Before Jesus ever was on earth, I existed. Hence, there were people of Rightoeusness who lived before him. Jesus was not a greater believer of God than Abraham. You a christian will say that you are a monotheistic, and attach yourself to father Abraham, conveniently avoiding Jesus in this case, until when you wanna argue about him being God, when he said he was a servant.

You are a yoruba woman, am going to assume. If your father's father had only one wife, your great grandfather probably had more than one, hence your grandfather had uncles and aunts. Lets just assume for the sake of this discussion that your father married more than one wife, or even your husband has more than you as wife. Are the children from your co-wife or wives, to your husband, in your mind illegitimate? No one in his right mind will say that the Arabs who are from the bloodline of Abraham through Ishmael do not have right over what belongs to Abraham, including tracing it all the way to your of Iraq. Muslims love and revere Jesus son of Mary as a prophet, Messenger of God to Children of Israel. How do you justify your blanketed statement?

Am sure that i have almost the same amount of experience as you in this matter. What the Bible said is unfulfilled on Ishmael. This we now accept. I see you transfer it to the Arabs, and jews in general. So lets deal with it; Until the idea of the creation of the state of Israel, Muslims, by extension rules spain, by extension civilized Europe. Jews benefited immensely in this almost 800 years rule. The rule ended by combination of many factors; spanish inquisition and crusade ended it for sure. Today there are many Jews living in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Iran, Iraq, And many many Arab and by extension societies.


They exist there today. Am sure if they are truly hated because they are jews they will all be sent out in just one swoop, or worse, because of the hatred you mentioned. But this is not the case. Rather Spain in her zeal to kill Islam off Europe killed the "Killers of Jesus" too. Today's america, a place I know enough, The ADL, JPAC, etc are in operation not because the boogie man arabs are going to get the more established Jews. These organizations are around and well funded to shame the white Christians. Please stay on the topic you have some clue on. You have none in what you proposed above.

He has only one name - Jehovah. The rest are titles. CLUE CLUE CLUE >>> ISLAM'S 99 NAMES OF ALLAH!

Not the same. When a muslim is dying he says "Laa ila ha IlAllah" Jesus could have said Yahweh at that time. But he said Eloi very similar to Allah with minor accent.

A single verse from Jesus about him being a servant is enough to nullify a thousand about him being the God Who creates. This will be similar to you saying to everyone just one time that you are the husband of the father of your children, and every other time you say that their father is truly your husband. If people compare the two opposing statements, one will assume that in one set of the two you may be correct, but the other set you are 100% wrong. Now when they see you that you are a woman, and you yesterday or so hurry up to make food for that father of your children, we definitely know who is the husband between the two of you and where you are 100% wrong. In the case where Jesus said he is a servant sent, we have to consider if there were traces of being a servant in him. We see he acted like every other servants before him; eg. Moses. Jesus said he does not have any power of his own to do anything. If we stop here, we know Jesus was not God, but 100% grade A servant. Paul who called him God, and the other verses attributed to Jesus calling himself called will make Jesus a person suffering from double personality disorder, it comes from him (I am certain he didnt say it), and Paul a liar or at least a person willing to fantasize about weird outcomes.

The same holy spirit that the Christians consider to be inferior to Jesus. If jesus could teach anyone, how can holyspirit be the author and teacher? This is just your wishful thinking. And to the bold; Moses spoke to God without Jesus. Abraham did the same thing, as a result God made him a Personal Friend based on his firm and absolute belief. Jacob fought God or His Angel and won. Mary even had a person thing with God when He mounted her as she was overpowered/overshadowed and came upon her. We are now talking about the result of this single encounter. Jesus was not in any of them, unless Jesus and holy ghost did the overshadowing and coming upon Mary. Seyibrown, you are a woman. Discuss this with your husband. If you experiment on it and a baby comes out, dont blame me, blame your Bible for instigating it. But call the boy DeJesus or the girl Mary.

1 Corinthians 2: 11 'For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God'.

The spirit of God knows the things (will) of God, therefore he wrote God's message. When Jesus was on earth, he taught and explained the message. When he left earth, the Holy spirit continued the teaching and the clarification. .

The Holy Ghost did not arrive too soon. He arrived at the appointed time. He has been around since then to teach, correct, comfort and guide the children of God. Yes, I read the Bible and I understood what I read. Did you read and understand the information about the Holy Spirit? Please point me to  any information you have on the pre-mature arrival of the Holy Spirit, the time he arrived, or the time he will arrive.

Whie the bold is not part of the description of the another comforter from the lips of Jesus, the below will let you know that those who will be alive at the time of the coming of the Another Comforter which is a spirit from God, being a "Holy spirit" according to the Bible, as he will serve as mouth piece of God; people who say things about jesus would be sayin g the wrong things, hence they need correction; Jews say they killed him. Muhammad said he was not killed. Christians say he was crucified by Jews. Muhammad said he was not crucified. Both groups are wrong and Muhammad corrected them with just one single verse. The Bible says the another comforter will hear and repeat what he hears from God. He will not add a single thing of his own. Muhammad does that in the pages of the Holy Quran. He lived it as the embodiment in Sunnah and authentic ahadith. The another comforter will teach people new things that even jesus didnt teach. Muhammad did that, to include simple etiquette of yawning, etc, etc. The another comforter will glorify jesus. Muhammad did just that, putting Jesus in his proper place; a true servant of God, sent to the children of Israel. His mother a woman who was truthful and not a fornicator, adulteress. The another comforter will abide with people for ever. Muhammad abides with people even today in the same way the former comforter and those before him abide with people even today. People talk about Abraham as if he was walking out of the city of your, in Iraq just this morning. People talk about Jesus as if he was out of this world just last evening. Muslims dream about Muhammad as if he is just around the corner from them. Everyone of us is talking about him as if he was sitting in front of us.

Please read your Bible and quote all verses about THE ANOTHER COMFORTER. Then compare what I said about Muhammad above to them. Contrast it to the Holy Ghost: What did the holy ghost do to correct the people present on that day at the place of Penticost? How did he glorify Jesus to his proper place of honor? How did he teach new things Jesus didnt teach? What did he hear from God that he merely repeated? Show me, tell me. I need a book of reference. I want to see, feel, touch, read. I have many Jewish friends. They are my neighbors. At least I see a Jewish Synagogue just 5 minutes walk from me. If its in Hebrew, as you may claim, I will take it there for somebody to read it to me. All I have to do is to intrude on the people whose homes are right and left of mine. They are Jews. They will be glad to read it for me. I want real answer. Okay

While man id not body and soul and spirit, but body and soul [spirit], it is almost absurd to use this as your basic argument for Trinity, a clearly 3 different entities. When man is alive, is his soul or his spirit still in the womb of the mother where he resided before birth? Or is his spirit and or his soul still with God who created them? Or his spirit and or soul still in the egg or spermatozoa in the body of mother and father respectively? Are either the spirit and or soul away from the person, if he were to be called a living man? When a man dies, his soul or his spirit leaves his body that is now lifeless. When you said Jesus died, did Yahweh and Ghost not died with son? Did they remain behind and what happened to Trinity? That concept must have vanished just as well. No? Please explain what happened to the 3 God heads at that time. I dont care about other times, but just that brief time you said Jesus was killed; Did Trinity (3 god heads remained, and each full of complete God? ETC).

The above connotes no true reality of "WORD OF GOD". Word of God should be exactly what God said. Exactly. This is not the case about the Bible since it has many different versions not only by accents whcich some will say about the Quran. But the Bible in varied generations from its beginning added and subtracted verses an even chapters and books as it sees fit. I mean the generational author, which you now call the holy spirit. Take a look at the Catholic and Protestant Bibles for example. We have to agree that the author if he is a single God, or the holy spirit of Him, must have dual personalities at work or they are different Gods or Holy spirits. This is reality.

The friend of God you criticize. Seyi, you may as well criticize God. God will not allow His Friend to go into sin, hence Hajar was a wife, since before Abraham men have married more than 1 wife. Ishmael was a true son, since even in the Bible, they confessed that he and his baby brother buried their father. I will not accept inuendos. You even go against your Bible in this manner, since it goes against itself in reality. A naughty person is never called a child of the father without that stigma on him. A man who buried his father cant be called a naughty person. only the jews and their surrogates think that Ishmael does not have right. Yet they cant proof that Isaac and not Ishmael was the child of slaughter. Islam proofs it my yearly slaughters, and based on the truthfulness of Quran which says Maryam is the best of all women, we know if Isaac was Quran will say it, too.

My spirit is also my soul and he is called by my actual given names; Many yoruba names and a host Islamic names. But am the son of so and so. I need the same for the holy spirit, since you have Jesus for son, Yahweh for father. Just like Seyibrown is the wife of the dude in bed with you, Seyi the mother of the kids that used to be in her womb, Seyi the daughter of the parents from Yorubaland, I am presuming, Seyi the sister of her siblings from her parents. Give me a real name for your holy ghost.

Soul is spirit. Just like male spermatozoa when it fertilizes the female egg, that product itself is a potential person. Spirit of a person is a potential soul. unfertilized egg and spermatozoa that does not make it as the winner are potential persons. They just dont become it because God does not wish that spirit of man as the soul will every be part of them. The name of my spirit is called by my given name. You see, I am nothing. You cant equate me with the Holy Ghost, if it exists and truly it is God. You should calibrate it as you do of the other persons of Trinity; Son has a name; Jesus. Father has a name: Yahweh. Holy Ghost has a name; [. . . . . .]?

My question 'What is the name of your Spirit?' is rhetorical. Since you have managed to give me the name of 'your spirit' you should be able to deduce the name of 'God's Spirit' employing the same method you used to reach a conclusion about what name 'your spirit' is called.

Soul = Spirit  Sir, In the Quran, what is the 'spiritual' punishment prescribed for Lions that eat Human beings?

So what did he say about the "opinions" of Paul? Seyibrown; honest discussion needs hard evidence. Not evasive and whitewash. The Aborisha of yorubaland will give you direct answer because of their conviction. Your tiptoeing is not acceptable to me.

Give me how Ahimolowo or pick one "Oyakhilome, or woh eva", is equal to Moses? Lets leave prophet Jesus son of Mary out of this for a moment. Or you can add him to illustrate how the Obadares and gang are prophets?

This right here, makes you better than Jesus. Jesus prayed for safety. he received no acceptance. He was killed because God rejected his plea. A proof actually against Jesus of the Bible based on his own qualification of a true prophet which is a spirit from God. I will say that since Jesus prayed and he received no answer, he was not a prophet, even, considering that Noah prayed, Moses prayed, each receiving answer and support.

The friend of God you criticize. Seyi, you may as well criticize God. God will not allow His Friend to go into sin, hence Hajar was a wife, since before Abraham men have married more than 1 wife. Ishmael was a true son, since even in the Bible, they confessed that he and his baby brother buried their father. I will not accept inuendos. You even go against your Bible in this manner, since it goes against itself in reality. A naughty person is never called a child of the father without that stigma on him. A man who buried his father cant be called a naughty person. only the jews and their surrogates think that Ishmael does not have right. Yet they cant proof that Isaac and not Ishmael was the child of slaughter. Islam proofs it my yearly slaughters, and based on the truthfulness of Quran which says Maryam is the best of all women, we know if Isaac was Quran will say it, too.