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asalimpo:
so God spoke Jesus into existence. Then Jesus went on to create all things for ,his master? No! For himself! Dude! Your thinking is off track.

Then put me on track.

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, you still don't appreciate and realise the reason why I opened this thread. The first word beginning the title subject head is a dead giveaway.

I am not here to convince people that homosexuals were in the Bible, when the evidence is in there stark nayked. As I said, I hinted in my lengthy 3-pageclong post about evidence of faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex couple in the Bible. Too bad, you dont take to long write ups.

100 of you aren't too much for me to handle, it's just that, there are four important outstanding post of TV01, I love to address as quickly as possible, as it will open the thread up further, make it more openly and give it meaningful traction or mileage. When I am levelled with responding to TV01, you then can jump back in

My primary concern aim and object is to uncover the lies perpetrated and reveal the changed word meanings, that have been used to deNazamonise genuine and truthful SSA persons.

Everyone except you knows this isn't a sprint thread. You just want to start running and leaping about without even trying to learn about crawling first. It's OK ooo

Oga try oo. Very soon you'd say Jesus Christ of Nazareth was in a homosexual relationship with John since it is said that He loved him and he (John) reclined at the Bossom of the Lord.

Gradually, you are going to play the homosexual's last Card, by calling Jesus Christ homosexual. I'm waiting...

MuttleyLaff:
You want me to reinvent the wheel. I know who has poisoned your mind about anyone liking post. Some just dont accept and give up

Your distraction posts, I had to in sequence respond to, obviously isnt letting me get to the real post that contended with my lengthy 3-part long post

Of course, you will say that. What was "inappropriate about shadeyinka's poser" was him asking me a question, that I had already addressed in my lengthy 3-part long post. I even provided a URL link and sign posted him so he can get informed. He threw it back in my face, and unashamedly told me in no uncertain terms that reading lengthy content isnt his thing. He also made irreverent remarks about my lengthy 3-part long post. He asked a non question, but didnt like being told he did.

Just know that when you do, you will be met with a robust face off

Time is a snitch. Time will tell, time will surely in time show and tell, who has been taking biblical text out of context, will tell who has been interpreting under pretext. Dont worry, I'll expose you when I get round to responding to those your four outstanding posts, I havent replied to yet

You dont want to accept that marriage is beyond sexuality, that is part of your problem

The Bible teaches abstinence in whatever shape or form

MuttleyLaff did you just say David, the man after God's heart was in a homosexual relationship with Jonathan?

I need you to say it categorically clear.

This is what the homosexuals say to justify their sin. The next line I expect to hear you say is 'Jesus was in a homosexual relationship with John the Beloved for that line follows this one. You'll get there las las.

God thank you for this thread, the AntiChrist in MuttleyLaff is emerging.

You have hidden long enough in the fold.

HappyPagan:
Lol.
Light said 'let there be Light'

Yes. This is too high for you. Get lost inside your shrine pagan

budaatum:
Why? Is God the same as the Sun?

God is Light, not the sun. The Earth's sun receives its light and warmth from the Light of Heaven which is Jesus.
Did you read Revelation 22:5?

And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

MuttleyLaff:
Go over my lenghty 3-page long post Shepherd00, you will read me hinting about them

I'd ve to ward through that maze just to get a verse of the Bible you could just post here? Is this a ploy to dodge questions?

MuttleyLaff, if you want to convince people that even one single couple in the Bible was homosexual, pls post here where it won't be difficult for people to see.

MuttleyLaff:
You are, you have.

I am what? And, I have what?

MuttleyLaff:
I advised you to bookmark that my lenghty 3-page long post Shepherd00, to read it during lunch breaks or something, quietly and thoughtfully but would you, had you. Nah. I remember that, I even, on top, warned you over drinking too much strong coffee, as I noticed, it makes you become excessively hasty, impetuous and highly strung.

And I remember begging you and you accepting to react to my post separately from others. Why didn't you do it? Oh wait, you plan to keep boasting abt me not responding to you when I don't read your verbose post right?

This post is short and precise, so post the scriptures here let people see.

MuttleyLaff:
PS: Please do you mind Shepherd00. I have TV01 to take on.

In other words, we are too much for you to handle? You are completely swamped abi?

Okay, let me allow TV01 to continue wiping the floor with your ass.
And bro TV01, pls add this to the questions you'd ask MuttleyLaff.

"mentioned one faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex couple in the Bible".

MuttleyLaff:
Just be watching TV01 and I, all your questions, concerns, questions you want to asked, will be treated and addressed in my interaction and discussions with him

Oh, it's a delight to watch him clean the floor with you.

And, keep your stupid posts short.

vaxx:

What with the teeth?

CandidateOfHell:
The Bible creation story is cock and bull story

Anything Adam called them, those were their names.

1 Samuel 25:25 Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him:

A man is a reflection of his name.

budaatum:
How did it come about?

How did God come about? If you can answer that, then you have your answer.

MuttleyLaff:
"That is and was a non question shadeyinka.

It is a question you are asking, to which the answer is so clear that it's not worth asking, especially after, I have advised you shadeyinka, since you were latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, to please kindly visit the above link I pasted, and to read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update and for getting a proper perspective of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Besides, I have in many sections, on this thread, deconstructed the myth(s) and lies perpetrated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered,
but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 08

Others have this irrational feelings of hostility that prevents them from asking meaningful questions, just like shadeyinka as seen above asking me that his a non question

This is a thread opened because of a tireless pursuit of what is true, as in, to separate facts from fiction, to separate facts from lies, so please be my guest, as I dont mind you revisiting points over and to delve a little further, as what matters to me is truth revealed and be told.

Now for the record, the case and position I made with Matthew 19:12a, is that the Jesus comment "there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb" was synonymous for and encompassed SSA person (i.e. homosexuals/lesbians) Mind you, before some trolling person starts to get ready to misquote me, I havent said, all "eunuchs who were born thus from their mother's womb" are homosexuals.

Now, it is fact that, Jesus, in Matthew 19:12a, stated emphatically and/or publicly, saying some are born that way from their mother's womb, as in from birth, same way as eunuch, some are born from the womb, that way with same sex attraction tendecies. Of course, because of the imperfect world we live in, eunuch(s), just as same as with same sex attraction persons (i.e. SSA person), people that are infertiles, people born with one physical defect or the other etcetera, all are as a result of the fall from grace.

What a pretense. I laughed too, at you, calling yourself a literalist.

TV01, before you set off digging into Matthew 19:12, let me quickly first ask you about what the scripture says in Leviticus 20:13, as shown as follows: "If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Do you notice the Leviticus 20:13b part there, hmm? Have you been man enough to be literal, thrown stones yet to kill homosexuals, hmm? Oh no, your balls suddenly have shrivelled up at the prospect of you needing to be a literalist huh? Whats your excuse for having not to stone to death your homosexual neighbour, a fellow man, human being like you now, huh? I think for you, it seems like a good and right time to cherrypick parts of scripture, isnt it, hey?

OK, here is another one, why haven't you yet gouge out your eyes when you sin (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you, most posters and their missus(es) on this thread including yourself and HRH, your madam weren't virgins. What happened to being a literalist there, ehn?

Ah, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods, like lobsters, crabs, shrimps etcetera (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Or why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40)

Cheyyyii!! You be confirmed and bonafide literalist indeed. You arent a literalist, as you dont literally follow the bible, you only follow and use the Bible, like a "far-to-see" Pharisee, to attack harmless, caring, loving, minding their own business minorities.

How I wish and pray, you read other bible texts in context, just as you've just demostrated above that you are capable of doing with Matthew 19:12

Good, good, good. Another contextual reading attempt, keep it up, but the as for the "indissolubility" stance, is this applicable even in the face of adultery, domestic/marital abuse etcetera, hmm?

TV01, marriage is a shadow model, of a real thing, that means, it's of something real, as in, that's in heaven.

TV01, I bet you dont know that, marriage, as a matter of fact, is a union of the soul with God. There is no male or female in heaven, bet you've forgotten about that fact, as well.

God accepts everyone who is not harming another, who is kind and loving. Sexuality is secondary. Love is primary and supreme. It isnt about who you love, but rather, it is a great deal more about HOW you love

What is this your fixation and obsession with sex about sef gangan? Dont you know that sex is overrated ni?

If you must insist on sex, then having is legitimate, binding, free from sin and pure, if, whether homosexual or heterosexual, it is between two consenting adults, that are at peace with each other, at peace with God and in truth, their intentions are good, they arent doing anyone any harm, their hearts are pure, they are faithful, caring and supportive to each other, they are in love with one another until death do them apart.

TV01, the relevance to this discussion, is as I already have above advanced, some people have the tendency to have homosexual behaviour because partly due to epigenetics, meaning they are born from the womb that way, whilst on the other hand, others just adopt to be gay, they do so for paganistic ritual reasons, do so for financial reason or whatnot, case in point of the latter, will be our own and home grown, Denrele, Bobrisky etcetera

TV01, you recall a true life story I shared earlier on this thread, hmm? Never mind, I'll repeat it here so that you'll get a bit of perspective on that my "some... due to epigenetics, are born from the womb that way" comment. The person, in this true life story incident, is a grown man now and is enjoying a lovingly same sex attraction relationship, supported by his mum, dad, sisters and brothers, I mean supported by the entire family, dog and all in short, but here is the most interesting part of the story and my favourite part of the story, his mum fondly recalls that, when the man was three years old, he passingly, you know like innocent kids do, that very one bright early morning day, said to her: "Mommy, when I grow up, I want to marry daddy"

How does one explain, a three year old boy coming out and saying at that age, that when he grows up, he wants to marry Daddy and not Mummy, hmm TV01? It comes from the pit of hell, right, I second-guess hearing, you say, hmm abi? Isnt it?

Give it a rest TV01, because you know there no scriptural backing against intimate same sex relationships. Scripture never expressly prohibits it, if it did, God wouldnt have allowed David and Jonathan's SS attraction/relationship to make it into the Bible. Now, wait for one troll to quote me, as saying they are gay or had godly homo love.

Clearly, there is no where in the Bible that faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex relationships is called a sin or condemned.

Wow, I have never come by anyone like you Muttleylaff. You have no shred of shame.
Why Haven't you mentioned one faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex couple in the Bible. Why does anytime homosexuality is mentioned death accompanies it? You can't answer yet you keep shouting faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex relationship

Abraham became soft in the head and succumbed to his wives advice instead of what God said, a flaw. it was mentioned.

Onan, had sex with Tamar, his brother's widow because the children will not bare his name, he spilled the Seed, and got killed for it. It was mentioned.

Samson had sex with a prostitute, it was mentioned.

Judah had sex with Tamar, who had dressed like a prostitute, it was mentioned.

David committed adultery and killed an innocent man, it was mentioned.

Amnon, King David's son, had sex with his half sister. It was mentioned.

The Bible records everything, good or bad.

But I am yet to read where any of God's people was in a faithful, kind, caring, loving, long term committed same sex homosexual relationship. Why is that MuttleyLaff?

Pls am i missing it in the Bible? Pls help me.

budaatum:
Light on earth, it would seem from the text. Though there is argument that the sun, a light, was created in the heaven before "let there be light" on earth as vaxx has pointed out.

The sun in heaven was not created.

budaatum:
We are talking about the light in Genesis, Shepherd. Unless your point is "let there be light" and "there was Jesus"?

But it's clearly written there that the Light in Genesis is Jesus nah. The Light was not the sun or moon, those came on the third day. Read again.

Even John said it. ' In the Beginning' 'which beginning?

In the beginning was the Word,

and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him;

and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life;

and the life was the Light of men.

And the Light shineth in darkness;

and the darkness comprehended it not.
(Remember in Genesis, the whole earth was covered with daekness and God said, let there be Light?)

The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light,

that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light,

but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:1-5, 7-8


John 1:9-12

That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

He (WHO) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. (meaning He was always here).

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


See that Jesus went from being the Word, to the Life,
to Light and finally to a person?

BluntBoy:
Disciples were students, not protocols.
This misconception alone ridicules whatever defense you try to project.

It's obvious you are not a Bible student so, pls move along. Good day.

kkins25:
If I were there right now id give you three mighty slap which are symnolic for the trinitarian BS you subscribe to.

How did what I wrote here connects to Trinity? I thought you didn't believe in God?

And, If you meet me in person, you may not be able to greet me freely talk less of mustering courage to slap me. hahahahahahaha.

MuttleyLaff:
You didnt finish this section off, but I guess the truncated last word (i.e. ten) was going to be "tendency", right?

Yes, that was what he wanted to write. And Yes, some people may be born with homosexuality tendencies just like some people may be born with clairvoyant abilities. But, do your research, you'd find out that those things do not happen randomly. Someone in that family line had in one time or the other a connection with a Spirit associated with that tendency (Spirit of Perversion) Hence, the spirit is attached to the Line and picks a suitable victim.

Have you ever heard of God/Jesus loving Homosexual or Lesbian? Why hasn't even One become a Revivalist?

It's demon possession MuttleyLaff. Just like the Holy Spirit has been possessing people and having them do things His way, evil spirits have also been possessing people from their mother's wombs having them do things his way too.

Read 'The Challenging Counterfeit', By Raphael Gasson.

MuttleyLaff:
You are correct, some people have the tendency to have homosexual behaviour because partly due to epigenetics, are born from the womb that way, others just adopt to be gay, like for financial reason or whatnot, case in point, will be our own and home grown, Denrele, Bobrisky etcetera

It is demon possession MuttleyLaff and has it roots in satanism. It's a form of worship to satan according to the Bible. You said so yourself.

MuttleyLaff:
bloodofthelamb, did you at all managed to read the true life story incident I shared earlier on this thread, hmm?

And did you also read the response that TV01 gave to you with regards to that? Do you have children? does your 3yrs old have any inclination as to what sex is? I was 12 and was still bathing naked in public, but you shamelessly brought up a perverted family who have no regards for the moral well-being of a Child and posted here with the hope that your point will make sense.

Shame on you Muttleylaff. Those parents who will subject that child to that shd be jailed.

MuttleyLaff:
The person, in this true life story incident, is a grown man now and is enjoying a lovingly same sex attraction relationship, supported by his mum, dad, sisters and brothers, I mean supported by the entire family, dog and all in short, but here is the most interesting part of the story and my favourite part of the story, his mum fondly recalls that, when the man was three years old, he passingly, you know like innocent kids do, that very one bright early morning day, said to her: "Mommy, when I grow up, I want to marry daddy" How does one explain, a three year old boy coming out and saying at that age, that when he grows up, he wants to marry Daddy and not Mummy, hmm ? It comes from the pit of hell, right, I second-guess, you'll say hmm abi?

I was actually expecting to read 'He is today a very renown Evangelist doing great work in the Kingdom of God'. Alas, it is but a joke.

He may receive the support of the entire world, but, It is still what it is, an abomination. And like the Bible says, 'Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh (homosexuality), are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire'.
Jude 1:7

MuttleyLaff:
Pastor John MacArthur, accepts and agrees with me that the context of Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 contents, has nothing to do with homosexuals per se, had nothing to do with acts going on between consensual adult in homosexuality, or homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships. He in fact, admits and concedes that, they are all what I said, it is and they are, in that my lengthy 3-part long post bloodofthelamb. I am sorry, bloodofthelamb, for being the one telling you this also, but Pastor John MacArthur, on record, actually too, admits that the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 was temple prostitution and had nothing to do with homosexual acts per se.

And, does your pastor MacArthur say
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Lev 20:13:"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."
is not talking about two men in a sexual union? Yes or No? Do you think mentioning a pastor will validate your claims?

MuttleyLaff:
Along the way bloodofthelamb, have you caught up with the latest news that happened earlier this week erh? That the pope, is pushing to have part of the word(s) in Matthew 6:9-13 Lord's Prayer in the Bible changed?

So too, Pastor John MacArthur changed his perspective on the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 as temple prostitution matter, as well as, Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 content subject so much that he is now saying them verses are talking about idolatry and not homosexuality. Go investigate the issue, check whether or not Pastor John MacArthur said this. in order to verify the facts. I dont do rumors nor share questionable information. Go fact check, go research everything I wrote, in that my lengthy 3-part long post, in order to verify the facts.

MuttleyLaff. Do you or do you not know that the New World Order has it's agents everywhere inside the Church, Which you happen to be one of them?

Do you or do not know that the False Prophet who will galvanise the entire world to worship the Beast in the time of the AntiChrist, will be a renown personality in a world known accepted Church?

They can try to change the word in their Bible, my own remains unchanged.

MuttleyLaff, I see you.

MuttleyLaff:
What is with our self styled cheerleader mutual friend openmine, making it his point of duty, to turn up every time and be patting you on the back, literally for each and every comment you make on this thread, hmm?

Are you also petty? How low can you go MuttleyLaff?

You are jealous because someone else is being patted on the back rather than you?
Look around you, even the Homos in Nairaland keeps their distances from you because they know they stand at odds with Jehovah. Keep pretending to be a Christian, your essence is squealing out.

MuttleyLaff:
Out of curiosity, how, when and where did homosexuality enter the world through sin?

WHERE?: In Eden when Satan conflicted Man and caused him to rebel against God's original plan for the earth.

WHEN?: Do you remember that encounter that ensued between Eve and the serpent which let to Adam declaring independence from God and believed he could infringe on God's Sovereignty?
That was when.

MuttleyLaff:
HOW: Shd I remind you what you yourself wrote here? You wrote that homosexuality has it's origin in ritualistic sex orgies as forms of worship in Pagan Temples. You know that sex is worship depending on who the object or subject of worship is. Hetero-sex is worship to God, Homosex shd be Worship to WHO? Jehovah created Male and Female and told them to have sex and fill the earth. Who do you think came up the opposite of that?

You guys have been in the opposing side since Eden, so who do think will benefit in the homosex? Satan who brings up opposites or God who is the originator?

How does Homosex serve God? it brings an end to Man and the earth.

How does Hetero-sex serve God? Posterity.

Jude 1:6 And the angels (fallen) which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Demons got cast off from heaven, got down here and taught men to do all these evil you now celebrate. Not to worry, where they'll end, you shall end if you continue in this path.

[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=79245774]Infertiles of all manner of sort, too defeats God's purpose and will, but God has no hang ups over them now

Yet, He commanded that they be killed? Lolzz.

MuttleyLaff:
So? Is it only one road that leads to the market ni?

You know? You just sounded like satan saying to Eve, 'Has God said?...', don't mind God, you must not surely die. There are many ways to get to the market. You must follow the only way God prescribes.

MuttleyLaff, there's only One Way to the market with God. Male and Female join together becomes one to continue and maintain posterity, by the children that'd come from their union.

Homosex thwarts that purpose.

MuttleyLaff:
You are a Simon. You are like a reed plant, that sways on the river water bed, as when any wind force blows and pushes it, makes you move from one side to the other side. You aren't consistent, you go backwards and forwards or go from side to side. One minute, you'll say, he's gay, other minute, I am sorry for calling you gay because I know you arent, then next minute, I called him gay, I think I am right. SMH.

You won't drag me to this squalor of yours. Like someone said, A Pig will always be a Pig tho in suit and living in a pen house.

So far, I have maintained my stance of being against homosexuality and that it's an abomination to Jehovah. But you on the other hand was caught lying that you didn't say God permitted or loved homosexuality and didn't say you'd back anything up with scriptures when your Op was exactly for that purpose.

And yes, I may have judged you wrongly. The extent to which you can lie just to support Homosexuality, only a gay person can do that.

So, yes, you are GAY.

MuttleyLaff:
The Bible categorically and specifically talked against paedophiles, necrophilia and bestiality, but not once against genuine homosexuality and lesbianism

Homosexuality and/or lesbianism are the least of the world's worries or problem to be concerned about

Where in the Bible does Paedophilia and Necrophilia categorically and specifically talked against?

Up until now, you have failed to point out where genuine Homosexuality is mentioned in the Bible, and how many people practiced this genuine homosex.

MuttleyLaff:
Lokatew Botswana decriminalized gay sex in landmark Africa case yesterday. Matter of time things. You dont need to be a prophet or be TB Joshua to know that Naija is, 5 to 15 years time, going to be next in line 

May God forgive you for this your lie and have mercy on your ugly, dark, foul, wicked and evil soul

May Jesus forgive you Muttleylaff for your wickedness. And wishing this wickedness on the Universe.
Nigeria and the entire world may allow homosexuals to take over the land and Defile it, it won't still be okay with God. And the judgement of God shall still descend against you and your ilk.

Listen MuttleyLaff, you and I may not be alive to see this, but, what happened in the Land of Canaan will happen again, the land shall vomit you guys out.

budaatum:
Light on earth, it would seem from the text. Though there is argument that the sun, a light, was created in the heaven before "let there be light" on earth as vaxx has pointed out.

The Light in Heaven was never created either. What does the Bible say?
Revelation 22:5
Never again will night appear, and no one who lives there will ever need a lamp or the sun. ~~~The Lord God will be their light~~~, and they will rule forever.

Jesus didn't just started being the Light here on earth. He is still the Light even in heaven.

missimelda01:
God created us in his image and likeness, I don't know where the 'children of the devil is coming' from. Anyways what do you have to say about Paul who was formally Saul? He persecuted Christians before things changed.
Nothing you say today would justify the reason to Hate, by the way it takes too much energy to hate.

About john 3:16, what did you expect? Jesus died for our sins a long time ago (decades ago), he settled out past, present and future debt. It is only reasonable to use the word loved there, or is English the problem now?

C.E.V Jude 1:23 "Rescue any who need to be saved, as you would rescue someone from a fire. Then with fear in your own hearts, have mercy on everyone who needs it. But hate even the clothes of those who have been made dirty by their filthy deeds.

Other translations.

New International Version
save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear--hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

New Living Translation
Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

Good News Translation
save others by snatching them out of the fire; and to others show mercy mixed with fear, but hate their very clothes, stained by their sinful lusts. 


Miss. I am to hate even the clothes the homosexual wears. You heard?

missimelda01:
God is love, the moment you accept him as your lord and saviour you've a embraced the nature of love. Who is your neighbor? Did the Bible mention who your neighbor should be? The love in you refuses to see the bad in another person, instead it teaches you to see God's nature in that bad person. This takes away the word hate from the story, when you hate someone it means you're perfect enough to pass judgement to the person. Love is love! And my neighbor could be anybody.

Let's stop trying to turn the Bible upside down please.

I don't agree. Here, read this;

C.E.VJude 1:23
Rescue any who need to be saved, as you would rescue someone from a fire. Then with fear in your own hearts, have mercy on everyone who needs it.
~~~~ But hate even the clothes of those who have been made dirty by their filthy deeds.~~~~

Pls tell me what it means.

alBHAGDADI:
What's this one saying?

You have no point to back up your calling me a hypocrite. All you just want to do is throw in a little dent on the message as a Satanic agent that you are.

Read what he wrote again. Have you not.called him any name before? He is just returning the favour but his points is valid tho.

budaatum:
Well, since you were being a pedant about God creating, I figured, let me join you with Bible don't talk.

There was no "room" nor "drapes" nor "light switch" in the "formless and empty and darkness" before "let there be light"!

There was. Jesus is that Light and Jesus has existed forever before 'Let there be Light' was spoke.

I am the Light of the World===Jesus.

He shines in darkness and darkness comprehends it not...

John 1:7-9 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

budaatum:
The Bible did not say anything since it can not talk!

It is written in the Bible that, "God said, 'Let there be light'". And for being the first to say it (according to the Bible at least), light was created by God.

You can post where it says 'And God created Light'.

budaatum:
The Bible did not say anything since it can not talk!

It is written in the Bible that, "God said, 'Let there be light'". And for being the first to say it (according to the Bible at least), light was created by God.

And there was light.

PraiseDLord:
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While the Bible never addresses reincarnation specifically, it is clear that the biblical model of life, death, and afterlife is incompatible with any form of reincarnation as posited in religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and certain New Age or Neo-Pagan belief systems. In Hebrews 9:27-28, we are told that "just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him." This passage alone appears to eliminate the possibility of remembering past lives/reincarnation.

Along the same lines, in Luke 23:43 Jesus tells the thief on the cross that he will be with Christ in paradise that very day, which assumes that the man will not be reincarnated back into earthly life. Similarly, passages such as James 4:14, which discuss the temporal nature of human life, are inconsistent with a reincarnationist idea of living earthly lives over and over for centuries, millennia, or all eternity. On top of all this, if human souls were reincarnated over and over, then how could some people in the Bible see the spirits of long-dead people, like Moses being seen by the apostles in Matthew 17:3 during the transfiguration of Christ?

But what are we to do with those who claim they have memories of their past lives/reincarnation experience? The first and perhaps most important question we should ask is whether or not these "memories" are genuine. Human memory is notoriously unreliable (just ask any lawyer or detective), and people frequently misremember things, believing they remember things that never actually happened or not remembering things that did happen. In the case of those claiming to remember their past lives, one can easily imagine them misremembering images from TV shows or movies, mental fantasies from books they read years earlier, or mistaking dreams for genuine memories. How can we know with any certainty that their past-life memories are not one of these things? Is it really more logical to assume that their memories are genuinely from past lives rather than one of these other things? While some modern "past-life experts" claim to find evidence for reincarnation by connecting things like phobias and physical ailments in currently living people with traumatic events in past lives, the past-life "experts" are assuming the existence of a past-life (or past-lives) in explaining current health problems, not showing that those past lives actually happened.

The fact of the matter is that there is simply no solid, scientifically acceptable evidence that the memories of past lives claimed by some people are genuine, rather than misremembered events or simply make-believe. Ultimately, the question comes down to whether we will find truth in the unreliable minds and memories of fallen and fallible human beings or from the timeless, holy Word of God. Christians can confidently assert that reincarnation is not a possibility for the human soul; when this life ends, our eternity in the afterlife begins.
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See http://www.gotquestions.org/past-lives-reincarnation.html

Have you ever heard of the Word 'Nechromancy?' It's a Spirit which lives in the bloodline of families for ever possessing and repossessing People from the family tree from generation to generation. It knows everything about everybody hence enters a new child and downloads the memories of the departed to the new child, afterwards, the New one begins to recollect what had happened before he was born.

People believe in reincarnation because they don't know the lies of satan

This spirit is called Familiar spirit.

Hia!!!!! Satan and the separation to destroy the Church. Satan has no rules at all. he can go so low to do anything to discredit the Church.

Even if he were a Christian, wasn't Judas one of the 12?

OkCornel:
Tufiakwa!!!

It is homosexuality and lesbianism today...

Next decade, it would be Paedophiles, necrophilia and bestiality...

Na so dance dey start from clap o...

Na so nah. Beatiality is almost allowed sef. Paedophiles have an organization already nah. Very soon they'd have a president who harbours that proclivity but pretends to be married to a lady, he'd begin traveling from nation to nation like gay Obama, convincing people that God created some people to have sexual desires for animals so shd be accepted and loved like that. After all pro-animals are treating animals as people if not better.

MuttleyLaff has said here that homosexuality is found in every specie of animals. What does that tell you? The Next 5yrs, MuttleyLaff will be here telling you how a man who loves his cat or dog and are in their home wirhout hurting anyone have the right to have sex because they love themselves.

He will tell you that Paedophiles are created with the tendencies to crave for sex with toddlers, so shd be allowed, it's only a sin if the Bible explicitly say it is, and since it doesn't, he will argue his case.

Abomination.

shadeyinka:
As it was in the days of Noah: sexual promiscuity and pervasion everywhere!
It's just a proof we are in the end times. Maranatha!

Sure we are. To think that a professed Christian will boast and say in 5yrs a homosexual can become the president.

What MuttleyLaff just said here is that, satan will prevail over the Church. Man! this guy sha

BluntBoy:
Jesus was never hard to assess as Trump or our pastors are.

See, I no wan follow talk for dis matter o. when i said Jesus was available but accessible like that, I know what I'm talking about.

His 12Apostle were what if not His protocol?

Do you remember when Children came to see Jesus? Who stopped them from getting to Jesus? His Apostles or the Pharisees?

Luke 18:38-40 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace: but he cried so much the more, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me.
And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him,
Jesus commanded that he be brought. Could the blind man access Jesus without Him asking for him to be brought?

Matthew 15:22-26 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Did Jesus just call a woman 'a dog?'.

Just imagine Oyedepo doing this, what will you say?
He had no protocols. Anyone who was unable to see Christ was not because of protocols or bodyguards but because there was a crowd of others wanting to see Him.[/quote]Who stopped the Children from accessing Jesus?

And, Oyedepo is just sitting there idle with no crowd waiting to see Him yet he wouldn't attend to people abi?

BluntBoy:
You can see Jesus or bring your sick to Him and you would see Him easily if He was by Himself or with just His disciples. For example, the blind man at Bathsaida.

Scripture pls? Maybe you shd be told that Oyedepo ministers to people personally too.

BluntBoy:
But you can't just see Oyedepo without booking appointments. In fact, you can't see Oyedepo on the street and approach him without getting manhandled.

Christianity has turned into a joke.

Many have testified of running into him, they called out he stops his car, attends to them and they come to testify as they receive their encounter. I have heard many such Testimonies.

And Christianity is a joke to anyone who is standing outside and looking into the Church. You are like a man looking through a glass, your vision is vague.

We are doing better than ever.

Today's Church is a Triumphant Church.

OkCornel:
It's baffling that those who owe their existence from a male/female relationship are canvassing for same sex relationship...


I find it odd...

When a same sex relationship produces an offspring without any artificial assistance whatsoever, then I can start debating whether it's acceptable or not...


Let's even put scriptures aside. Nature does not support SSR...

My dear, someone posted a gay couple with Children they adopted and said that was a family. Children which came to being becos a woman got involved.

Boys they may end having sex with later in life.