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jesusjnr2020:
Day 28:

It's not by might nor by power but by the Spirit of God!

Yes oo...almost gave up yesterday but here I am. #Day 13. Glory to God.

jesusjnr2020:
Day 27:

After the Spirit of God said to me that this was His thread, it didn't make much sense initially, but with recent developments it's beginning to add up.

And God told me this morning that this one that I am shouting, that I ain't seen nothing yet!

So it appears that what has already happened is nothing compared to what's coming.

I can't wait to find out what He has in store for us.

God bless.

Day #12

2 Corinthians 4:17

Lagoscooldude:
IRCC give us draw na

Abi oo

jesusjnr2020:
It's all good bro. We can't always agree on everything. Whenever the sons of God was used in the Bible prior to the coming of Christ it was shown to be angels not humans, and most agree with that opinion, so that's not an assumption but a clearly scriptural view.

But then since the sons of God are definitely angels and not humans, how did they achieve that since they cannot sleep with women as you said. That's how I arrived at that position which is in my opinion the most reasonable since humans can sleep with women and angels who are spirits can possess humans.

Thanks and God bless.

Thanks brother.
I also thought so that sons of God only referred to angels in the Old Testament but if we look carefully, it is also used for a set of people God has called out to Himself:

Exodus 4:22-23: "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn." Of course, we both know 'Israel' here is actually a group of people.

1 Chronicles 28:6: "And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father."

Psalm 2:7: "I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." This is David talking.

This one isn't even that subtle:
Hosea 1:10: "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God."

Any update on the EE draw today please?

Let me share something brief from Genesis 11:

The place where the men on earth as at then built the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11 is called Land of Shinar (Genesis 11:2). This is actually the same place that was later called Babylon in the book of Daniel! Check Daniel 1:1-2.

Genesis 11 signifies the birth of Babylon, a city that was borne out of and constantly symbolized the rebellion of man against God. Hence, God always used Babylon to symbolize a rebellious or evil city that would receive God's judgment in the end of times as stated in Revelation 17:4-5 and Revelation 18:1-8. Jerusalem on the other hand is a city that symbolized a city God dwells and eventually has complete authority as that was where Pentecost took place: a reconciliation between the Holy Spirit and men in Acts 2. No wonder, in Revelation 21:1-2, the scriptures talk about the New Jerusalem.

Nephilim:
I didn't contradict myself, I told you quite frankly the scripture is quite silent on that story! You may think all you read in the scripture was all that is to it, but no, there are more to it! Anyway hold on to what you believe and sail on!

And as long as the scripture doesn't elaborate on it, there's no point thinking you have the best version of the story excerpt from the scripture!

As it is written "in those days there were giants on the earth"
Thanks.

@the emboldened...Which is what I've been stating sir. Nonetheless, I appreciate your contributions and perspective. Please keep visiting the thread.

Nephilim:
someone of 6feet cannot look like a grasshopper in the face of someone that is 8feet! They were like grasshoppers because they were probably 20 or 30feet and above compared to them! Do we still have giants like that on earth? No!

Yes some of them might have escape the flood, they are offspring of angels with high physical and spiritual intelligence! That's why I said the scripture didn't really elaborate on that matter, and yet when they were spotted again by the children of Israel God decree deaths upon them cos He doesn't want them to pollute the earth.

Your first paragraph contradicts what you previously wrote. You intended Genesis 6 resulted in giants. Now you realize they existed after Genesis 6 in the scriptures after God wiped the whole earth with flood (except Noah and his family). And Goliath was 6 cubits and a span (which is 9 feet, 9 inches), not 6 feet (in case you're also referring to that).
Well, to each his own but if you read my previous post with an open heart, you will see my point. And you just said some of them might have escaped the flood...the bible never said so.
First the bible never said they had high spiritual intelligence. Please provide the chapter and verse. They were simply referred to as mighty men and men of renown in Genesis 6:4. David's men were also called mighty men in the same bible.

Genesis 7:20-21 says: "The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man."
So, what do you mean by some nephilims escaped the flood? Bro...every man on earth died except Noah and his family. Don't say what the bible is not saying.

jesusjnr2020:
Nice take concerning the journey of Abraham's faith walk with God.

Although I believe Abraham was willing to obey God from the onset, however he had his own struggles, doubts, frustrations, setbacks, just like we also do in ours. But he was willing so God gave him the grace to become obedient to His Word.

His story was one of those which really prepared my walk with God, as I hence knew from the onset that I had to be patient with God, considering how long people like him waited on God for the fulfilment of the promise He made to them, hence I started praying for patience from then.

Concerning the sons of God and daughters of men, I share your view that the fallen angels couldn't have possibly had sex with the daughters of men. However I disagree with your position that they were the descendants of Seth. The most realistic and feasible scenario for me is that the fallen angels used the bodies of men to achieve that purpose. In other words they possessed men's bodies, and thereby gave the men the power to produce such offsprings which they ordinarily wouldn't have been able to do.

As for the revelations of the Spirit of God, it's something that increases the closer one draws to God. I can remember when the revelations began to come to me, I would be jumping in my room, running and shouting. Like wow! It was really amazing. However overtime I have realized that not everything I received was from the Spirit of God, some came from the flesh/men, so there are some things I believed at the time that I have put aside.

I think it was a similar thing that happen to Simon Peter who said something and Jesus told him, the it was not flesh and blood that revealed it to him, but the spirit of God, but shortly afterwards he said something else, and it not the Spirit of God but the flesh that revealed it to him.

So I expect that at some point you'd begin to realize this as well concerning the revelations you receive, that's if you've not already, so that you'd be able to tell which was truly of God or not.

More Spirit bro.

God bless.

Thanks for your feedback bro. I am very careful of what I receive by His grace. Except you are eager to dissect scriptures for vain glory, flesh shouldn't even be teaching us scriptures. The Holy Spirit is the Author. The most amazing ones are those that are simply on the pages, not the ones where you're trying to read meanings into the bible.

What you mentioned as the most realistic scenario is an assumption but either way, it was the evil ancestral line from Cain that interacted with those from Seth in my opinion, whether they were possessed by fallen angels or not. Most people just isolate a Chapter in the bible to study or read but once you read the preceding chapters, everything actually makes contextual sense. And not that it means much at all, but Bro Gbile Akanni actually arrived at the same conclusion of chapter 6. I was also hesitant but I was sure of God's voice, until the next day I just logged into a Gboko program randomly and that was exactly what he mentioned while teaching an entirely different topic. That's one of the ways God confirms what He has taught me. Few days after, another man of God randomly asked that question in a School of Ministry class and this was the answer he eventually gave because most thought they were angels (though not me, while my own study was independent from all these). This is not to say people cannot be wrong (far from it), even so-called teachers of the Word but we can always read Genesis 4 to 6 straight again.

Nephilim:
Nice thread!

But on the issue of the sons of God, I am of different opinion and I stand with bro Nnamdiosu. The scripture made us realize that there were Giants in those days. Giants are not of ordinary size and measure like we normal humans, that is to say that the DNA and the genetic codes somewhere, somehow has been tweaked and twisted.

If you say it refers to the children of Seth, tell me how pure can their bloodline be in comparison to the blood of Christ and spirit of sonship that we received to be called sons of God yet we didn't give birth to giants.

Thanks for your response bro.

It's important we simply read from the bible, not into the bible. Genesis 6:4 reads: "There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." Let me shock you: the giants or Nephilims (funny that's your username here...lol) were not actually the result of the sexual interaction between 'sons of God' and daughters of men. If it were so, we would not have giants on earth after God wiped out the earth with flood.

Now open your bible to Numbers 13, when the 12 spies were sent to spy the land of Canaan. They saw the descendants of Anak there which resulted in fear by 10 of them except Caleb and Joshua. Numbers 13:32-33 reads: "And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

The 'giants' in Numbers 13 are also Nephilims (check the biblical references). So, are you saying God forgot to totally wipe them out? Or angels again had sexual intercourse with daughters of men? Hell no. The truth is the men in those times especially in Genesis 6 were different from the human beings now. I mean many lived up to 900 years! I won't be surprised if Seth or Adam were at least 8 feet. Please go to 1 Samuel 17, there is the story of another popular giant there called Goliath. 2 Chronicles 11:22-23 talked about Benaiah killing a likely 'giant' as well.

In conclusion, nephilims (or giants) as strange as they were, were not a result of any angelic interaction with daughters of men. We shouldn't have heard of them after Genesis 6 if this was true.

jesusjnr2020:
Nice one bro.

I have already checked it out and would give my feedback before the end of the day.

Expect even more revelations from God during and after you finish your fast.

God bless.

Thank you very much. More have been coming oh both for personal purposes and just for me to know. Glory to God.

Trump sha...

jesusjnr2020:
You have a point. I should. Thanks.

Also check out my thread I recently started:

https://www.nairaland.com/6319480/revelations-bible-holy-spirit

It has come to my notice people on NL in this section prefer to discuss experiences but not the Word of God (and by His grace, I've had crazy experiences but the greatest prophecy is still the revealed Word of God). I will like to hear your feedback on the thread.

Lifeisgoody:
As a true Christian, you don't need anyone to stress you before you know if a pastor is true or fake.
Romans chapter 8 should be a guide especially vs 16.

I always emphasise on reading only the bible as your guide and not the books from so called men of God.
The bible is true and precise

One of the best posts I have seen here. Though I will still advise reading books of men of God as led.

jesusjnr2020:
Day 24:

Early this morning i heard a Voice which i believe was God's say to me that many would die in the US, and it appeared to be caused by a flood.

May the Lord have mercy if true.

Maybe you should intercede for US...

jesusjnr2020:
Oh. Thank God for that.

I pray God would give you the strength to see you through. Amen.

Amen sir. #Day 9.

jesusjnr2020:
Wow! The Lord instructed you to fast? That's really great. That means He's already settled it. It's nice to know you've reached day 8. It's not easy at all but the Lord is your strength. I almost passed out on day 3 myself after doing some quite stressful work. I could relate to the bitter taste too.

I would try to go for the 21-day water fast again before the middle of this year, but only when I'm fully recovered because I don't want to go quarter way again but to complete it this time.

Thanks for sharing.

God bless.

Yes oh...I'm just taking it one day at a time because I've been thinking I may not make it till the day God planned but this thread has been a source of encouragement. Thank you brother.

I love You Lord, because You first loved me.

I just came across this thread and it's been encouraging. God bless you brother. Also on a water-fast that God instructed me to do (I sometimes sip juice when my tongue begins to taste bitter or super strange). Today is my own Day 8. The Lord is our strength.

Fine puppies.

Thunderbolt: Magun

Ermm...it's her job?

Even the pigeons didn't want to risk it...o ga o.

chaarly:
1.. . . Using scriptures to sing, as inspired by the Holy spirit. Good.

2. I'll sing with the spirit, and I'll also sing with understanding. Great

3. The holy spirit in you will bear witness. Awesome.

Those are your points bro. Spot on.
Theophilus Sunday in summary. Lol

chaarly:
spirit/tongues music has no known musical pattern?
ma'am, have you listened to Theophilus Sunday? That guy, and a host of others is a definition of how gospel music should be like.

I personally think a definition of how gospel music might be is using the scriptures to sing (as inspired by the Holy Spirit), not necessarily tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:14-19 says: "For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified. I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all; yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue."

Nonetheless, I believe it is the Holy Spirit in us that should bear witness to what is truly His song, not necessarily the mode of worship (Romans 8:16).

Beautiful puppy. I will say 70%.

seborrhic:
It still boils down to the goddam leaders.
Think:if the leader made a scapegoat of some of these people,would others dare?Of course No!
U people don't even understand what leadership is all about.
The average person in the developed world would want to earn quick money or screw the other guy but they don't because they know those at the top would make sure it doesn't happen and if it does,the culprits brought to book.
So understand a statement before you utter it.
If the leadership is poor,those below would do anything they like and that's exactly what is happening in Nigeria now.

Lol...nope. So, where did the leaders come from? Did they drop from the sky or were they once part of the people that also once complained about their leaders then? It's a cycle and you are clearly putting the cart before the horse. I get the idea that a system that is not working may force some people to do abominable things but that does not justify the mass-selfishness that has eroded the fabric of the Nigerian society. Everyone is thinking of a way to scam the unsuspecting neighbour.

If you want true change, let the value-system of the average Nigerian change and let's see if it won't affect the leadership or at worst, the leaders of tomorrow. I tell you, the leaders of Nigeria in 2050 may be currently somewhere suffering and complaining about how terrible Buhari is and yet, he/she is planning on doing worse once he gets to the corridors of power. I don't fully buy your explanation of 'it's still the leader'.

If you want to change a nation, start by changing yourself. If only everyone adhered to this.

seborrhic:
It still boils down to the goddam leaders.
Think:if the leader made a scapegoat of some of these people,would others dare?Of course No!
U people don't even understand what leadership is all about.
The average person in the developed world would want to earn quick money or screw the other guy but they don't because they know those at the top would make sure it doesn't happen and if it does,the culprits brought to book.
So understand a statement before you utter it.
If the leadership is poor,those below would do anything they like and that's exactly what is happening in Nigeria now.

Lol...nope. So, where did the leaders come from? Did they drop from the sky or were they once part of the people that also once complained about their leaders then? It's a cycle and you are clearly putting the cart before the horse. I get the idea that a system that is not working may force some people to do abominable things but that does not justify the mass-selfishness that has eroded the fabric of the Nigerian society. Everyone is thinking of a way to scam the unsuspecting neighbour.

If you want true change, let the value-system of the average Nigerian change and let's see if it won't affect the leadership or at worst, the leaders of tomorrow. I tell you, the leaders of Nigeria in 2050 may be currently somewhere suffering and complaining about how terrible Buhari is and yet, he/she is planning on doing worse once he gets to the corridors of power. I don't buy your explanation of 'it's still the leader'.

If you want to change a nation, start by changing yourself. If only everyone adhered to this.

This is just sad. Then, we will be complaining about our leaders but the truth is the average Nigerian does not really care about the other person.

Well said ma'am!

This is just pathetic.

iyambz:
Psalms 12:6-7 kjv - The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

2 Peter 1:20-21 kjv - Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Perfect response.