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MsDarkSkin:
so let me get this straight:

if you get married and are unhappy, by the second year you can automatically get a divorce?!

i didn't read it all sis 

Absolutely NOT,  you don't divorce - you just go your separate ways. You might have to sign some documents - but the headache of divorce and bitter, bitter negotiations would be over. This opts you out of all of that.

Just read the article - when you have time - I know school can be a killer - but read the article it really is interesting.  I'd love to get married in New Mexico - it sounds great to me.   

@ Chima

Let me end my comments to you on this factual statement.

Don't post your words - and then get angry when someone repeats them back to you - maybe I didn't repeat you word for word (verbatim) - but I repeated the idea exactly as you presented it.

You went over the top - you got angry and instead of just continuing to respond - you attacked.

Your husband - I didn't target him negatively - I was just surprised at your defense that men shouldn't defend their mate - when all you have talked about on too many threads to count is how angry your husband will get, how he won't let you do this, he won't let you do that.  You were just sharing.  About how defensive he can be of you and nobody better look at you, etc., etc.

So when I mentioned it - you went STRAIGHT CRAZY AND IGNORANT.

Then in shock at your STUP,ID.ITY - I then post the thread and you have nothing to say anymore but to call me a liar and talk about my family (a dead member) and a new member (My Nigerian guy)

You need to respond like an adult - you are embarrassing yourself and you need to stop.

I know you want me to be YOUR LIAR - But the only one that has proved themself at this point to be THE LIAR IS YOU.  The very thing you called me is what you are.

sheeesh,

^^^^^

Again I don't hear you saying much of anything.

The 17 year old boy is a man in his 30s - You are an idio.t and then you smile and DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT.  That is how stu.pid you are - I have posted my FACT

You are running with your fiction.

lololololol

Chima - please go and get an education.  If you don't do it for yourself or for your husband - do it for your children - As soon as you open your mouth you remove ALL DOUBT as to YOUR LEVEL OF STUP.ID.ITY.

The Queen of Stup.id.

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=769878.msg9264720#msg9264720 date=1317602790]LMAO@stealing insults    Correction: You are narrating written English improperly.  We do not speak written English with our fingers.  

I write so bad that YOU WROTE five books worth of posts responding to my posts.  You such a bad liar.  

Okay MBJ, she is yours now.  I am done with her.     [/quote] - AGAIN - LIKE I SAID - "You don't speak good English" - MOST PEOPLE type and write how they "speak" - seeing how you write - I cringe at the thought of standing in your presence listening to you speak.

Please don't expose me to it.

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=769878.msg9264696#msg9264696 date=1317602221]I guess you are going to continue lying huh?  I guess we are done then. 

Such a classy lady!  Classy ladies are so proud of you!  Not! 

I hope for your stake when you FINALLY get to Nigeria that the guy doesn't run off when someone with a gun trying to hijack your knapsack.  Lord forbid, we will hear all about it on NL since you don't want your families in your business.   [/quote]The liar IS YOU - I HAVE YET TO SEE WHERE YOU HAVE POSTED ANYTHING I HAVE LIED ABOUT.  Whereas I have posted your threads.  And it didn't take long to locate - less than 5 minutes - I located it right away.

You are DONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION of the "liar" you have called me.  Now you want to run.  Instead of doing as I asked - which is for you to post "where I lied" - you have REFUSED and YOU CHANGE THE SUBJECT - by calling me liars and talking about my Nigerian guy.  And that is correct - I agree and I will say again - I don't want my family in my business.  You just quoted me.

EVIDENTLY I MUST NOT BE LYING.

Also - "Ms. I laugh in Mandarin - but has yet to really understand and speak good English" - It is "Sake" not "Stake" - sheeeshhh

Now you are the liar, "You hope for my stake that when I finally get to Nigeria that the guy doesn't run off when someone with a gun trying to hijack your knapsack." (You have HORRIBLE ENGLISH but you want to laugh in Mandarin)   

Do you even hear yourself?  You are sooo stup.id - You just talked about my dead husband, called me a cheater, called me a liar and YOU ALSO LIED ON ME to make it seem as though I AM THE LIAR.

I busted your BS - with your "Ride or Die Thread" - have requested more THAN ONCE for you to post me saying that my husband died in 2008 and that I have been with my Nigerian guy for 3 years.  Again - we have been together for going on 2 years and my husband died in 2009.  

But now you hope that all goes well?

You are a liar, you can't stand me and your jealousy is eating you up.

You know, I used to feel sorry for you when the userid's would talk about you and come down on you - NOW I SEE WHY - YOU ARE IGNORANT AND RUTHLESS.

Here is ONE OF THE MANY THREADS that I talked about when my husband died

Here let me bust your LIES AGAIN - smh - dealing with some id.iots on NL https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-531485.0.html

^^^^^ Me stating that my husband died in 2009

@ Chima

As far as flip flopping?

I see many sides of one issue - that isn't flip flopping - that is discernment.

I can see many different view points that are all legitimate.  Because I disagree on a topic doesn't mean that I "don't see that person's point of view" -- and guess what?  I can agree with a portion and disagree with a different portion of the same sentence or view.

Your calling it flip flopping means that you just don't the same understanding.

And further along into a topic can make me change my point of view - maybe that person has shown me areas that I didn't know.  

This is a forum - we learn from each other.  There is no rule that states that we must hold to our thoughts that we had last week.  I should hope that the forum is assisting in growth.

But knowing how limited your thoughts are, you will scream "Liar"    smh  

Have you been to college?

Did you graduate?

@ Chima:

You are childish - give your child (if you really are pregnant - God forbid) - a mother that is worthy of them.

You are seriously childish - it hurt you to this extent when I mentioned what you said and then I posted your thread - about you fighting.

I don't see you commenting on that thread(s)

"You are a Ride Or Die Chick" - Remember?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-523336.0.html

Your hubby was getting ready to fight - where was the DOG "Chima"?   

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=769878.msg9264689#msg9264689 date=1317602131]You are just a liar.  You talk/type so much that you don't remember have of the poo you say but unfortunately for you people do read threads.  

I have read a few posts where people also said you flip flop in your stories/posts.   I guess they are ignorant too.    Shyone is so classy that she doesn't lie and get into trashy spitfires.  

I laugh in Mandarin.   [/quote]You don't speak good English - YOU WISH YOU COULD LAUGH IN MANDARIN please don't dishonor Asians - they don't want to claim you either - they didn't do anything to you, Jessica Chima.

Still waiting for the threads.

talk is cheap

post my lies

He Say/She Say - POST IT

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=769878.msg9264639#msg9264639 date=1317600791]LMAO@this chick changing her story.  See people if you can't lie, tell the truth!

You must be living a pathetic life to lie about something of no importance and you stated you have met and spend time with the dude (which is a lie) and you stated you have known the guy for three years.  Just like posts can be created it can also be edited.  The proof is in the pudding.  If you made an error say it but to make up stories to save face?  Come on that a punk move.  

Again where did I say in any post that I wouldn't defend Mr. Chima and that Mr. Chima wouldn't fight?  Are you confusing my posts with MBJ's again?  

I know he would fight and he will do what he wants to do but what does that have to do with my statement about women need to learn to defend themselves and defend themselves?   Take your time.  

You are typing through tears and frustration that you are gasping for whatever you can find. What and who would you blame it on this time?  Your "workload" or the running man?  


Oh my goodness!  Why would I be jealous of someone that has to self-service (by your own admission) to a man's emails and voices off Skype?    Are you that serious?  As far as animosity toward you, there is none but it is clear that you have it toward me seeing you can't stand it when I throw what you say back in your face and then you go crying making an apology thread.  WTF.  My issue with you as I have stated before you take things too personal hence the long diatribes with MBJ and I because we have different opinions well mostly MBJ's.  Unlike you, I don't go around asking people what they are doing in their real life and trying to catch up with them offline.  

As for being on NL all day and night, you would know about that seeing you aiming for 190's popularity status with a "job" you claimed to keep you busy.  

According to you, my excuse for being on NL all day and night is not having a life of my own.  What are your excuses?    You have plenty of them I know!  

Yeah, the dude treat you so good across the ocean that you are self-servicing against the images of his pidgin!  Oooh jealous!  

LMAO@Cheerios    Ask that dude can you borrow some money to buy some Cheerios seeing you having financial difficulties.  You will pay him back with interest.[/quote]I don't see my post ANYWHERE - when you call me a liar - PROVE IT - until you POST MY LIES AND PROVE ME TO BE A LIAR - I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY TIME TO READ YOUR BS

POST IT - where I said my husband died in 2008 - post that - YOU STILL RAMBLE AND HAVE NO background - you are like those uneducated school aged AA females who laugh really loud, don't open a book, don't write, constantly pick fights - because they cannot communicate - cannot communicate - don't speak good English.

I expected to see you post "MY LIES" SINCE YOU ARE SO CONVINCED THAT I LIE - but since you can't do anything but come back online and start your ridiculous lunatic ravings you have made famous - I didn't even bother to read the mess you wrote.

Idio.t. plain and simple - a stark raving i.di.ot.

[quote author=Mrs, Chima link=topic=769878.msg9264658#msg9264658 date=1317601463]LMAO@this chick thinking I give a bleep about her opinions of me. You are a faceless chatter just like the rest of them.

Spare me the sob story. You should know about being trashy lying and all. If you were honest which I doubt you would say that you brought Mr. Chima in from previous thread and this thread. I don't mention anything about that dude you trying to convince to marry you on the beach unless you bring up Mr. Chima. As for the late husband, the only thing I said since your late husband died in 2008 and I am sure he would get on you for even chatting with other men. That's what protective husband do.

I made points without bring up the dude until you brought up Mr. Chima and if your skin was thick as you have claimed you wouldn't have fallen to the "BS" you cooked up.

You have stated many time you are classy and you don't get into trashy spitfire. Classy people who do not get into trashy spitfires doesn't scoop down to the level of people they have claimed are trashy. You lied again.[/quote]You are just ignorant - this is just you. You make up stories and add material to your stories. My husband died in 2009 - like I said - you make up stories - you post fiction and then you run with it as though it is fact.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-472538.32.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-523336.0.html

You are ghetto - straight from THE HOOD.  

You picked a fight in a bar WITH your husband.

And you have the nerve in THIS THREAD to talk about women who pick fights?  Who is the liar and the fake one?  

How can I expect any different from you during a challenging conversation?  You are ghetto and you deserve everything you sow - you deserve to reap.  

You are very jealous.  You constantly think I'm mentioning the word "money" as well in different threads after you shadowed me in the thread in which I unveiled myself.  Sounds like you have a problem with that as well.  smh

To stoop to discuss my dead husband.  Check this out - "I wish that you discover how it feels to lose your husband 'to death' and I hope in all respects that someone comes at you in the same ignorant and vicious manner in which you just come at me."

MRbrownJAY:
@Shy One
i also called you sista, and you are surely NOT my sista, get real!

if your man wants to end up in jail for you then that foolishness is all on HIM, not me. i do feel sorry for him though, especially if you end up having "no feeling" for him any longer, like the present one (hopefully that wont happen when he ends up in jail for defending your honor).

if you open your mind and follow the thread, you will realize that YOU are the one who is coming at me for my beliefs. what is it about my person that makes you want to reply to MY POST/VIEWS?!
again, i could care less what YOU think, these are MY VIEWS. so why dont you leave me and my post alone then, and go follow-follow someone else!

these are MBJ's views, no one is asking Shy One to accept/read them (Tosin is who i was posting to), but you better come with valid points if you want to challenge MY VIEWS, or else i will easily prove you wrong AGAIN and AGAIN.

In all honesty MBJ - we are burning through bandwidth - everything you have said is just repeating what you have said before - do you have anything "new and different" to add to the topic?

My points WERE FACT and that is as VALID as you can get.  Again - you pull up the same "extreme case scenarios" over and over and I have responded - no need to keep responding to me - what new do you have to say to the topic?

I live in Indiana - the scenario I mentioned was very real and JAIL TIME DIDN'T EXIST - you don't even live here - but you are giving me the law? Maybe that is the law in your neck of the woods in England but here - putting your hands on someone's Bottom,  is called Assault.  And is defendable.

I too was responding to Tosinville and I responded to your response to Tosinville - that is allowable - this is a FORUM.  We are here to post our views.

Now getting to Mr. Chima, I have stated many time that Mr. Chima (my husband with proof) fought with a dog for chasing me and all husbands are territorial about their wives.  I have stated multiple times that in the case of boyfriends and husbands, the reactions would be totally different hence the statements most men stated on this thread.  Most of them said WIFE, yes and Girlfriend, no.  

I would expect husbands to defend their wives not boyfriends.  I stood on that throughout the whole entire thread with and without MBJ.  You are upset that MBJ whooping your arse and that's not my problem.  I also agreed with Hairaki so I guess I am riding on Hairaki's band wagon just like your cheerleaders rode on your bandwagon.  Keep it real.  

Stop making up stories as you go along because you gasping for ammunition.  Its not cool.

I know - you see things quite differently than I do - you carry yourself and behave on a very low level and you have done it for as long as I have ever logged onto NL.

You see me as a liar - as I have NOTHING TO PROVE TO YOU WHO MEANS NOTHING TO ME.  I could care less.  Did I gasp or make up stories when I repeated your words to the forum?  NO I DIDN'T - so now you go on the attack?

Always over the top - Chima.  Instead of responding to my words - you charge me through my dead husband, call me a cheater and malign my current relationship.

You are one "quality individual" - stop acting like a street thug, street walker - this isn't the ghetto - I realize that it is hard for you to differentiate sometimes but please join the rest of us in the discussion.

People who have nothing much to say pull stunts like you do.  Keep contributing to the forum - what I stated to you CAME FROM YOUR PREVIOUS WORDS TO THE FORUM ON MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS.

You know that you don't just talk about a dog attacking you - smh.

You are one Trashy Female - is what you are.

Good Grief!!!!

Mrs. Chima wrote:

I am not trying to be rude either when I say this but how can you know what some guy you met online is going to do for you when you haven't even met the dude in person?  It is a difference when you know from physical experiences what the guy will do and what some dude told you via Skype or Yahoo.     If you are going to lie at least lie credibly.

^^^
Don't hate boo - it doesn't look well on you - is that the animosity you hold against Shy?  Is that your problem with me?  Because I have a Nigerian that treats me very well across an ocean.  And you reside "under the same roof with a Cheerios eating spouse that has you spending the majority of your days on NL and chewing and popping your gum" - rolling your eyes and throwing plates at the screen?

I have caught you in a lie and some when you stated your ex husband died in 2008 due to prostate cancer and you stated on NL that you know the current guy that you are going to meet in Nigeria for three years.  Now if your ex husband died in November 2008 and by your own admission, you have known the guy for three years, now let do basic math to keep our readers entertained.  

That would mean you have known the guy during the demise of your ex husband in 2008 and it is not November 2011 yet.  You grieve fast huh?  

I am sure if the ex husband was alive and well he would too be jealous and fighting YOU for making marital arrangements with a guy you haven't met and almost dropped the dude because he didn't want to get marry on the beach.  A few lady folks got you to slow down and see you were making a mountain out of a molehill.  

Your ex died in November 2008 and in order to have known the guy that you claimed will defend your honor and fight for you albeit gunfights, club fights, and a man tapping on you.  

So again how DO YOU KNOW what a man that you haven't met would do for you entirely when you haven't met the dude?  Don't lie.

^^^

Wow - it must be a miserable life you live - it must be really messed up to be YOU.

Please FOR ALL TO SEE - POST MY LIE - Go ahead - DO IT!!!  My husband was diagnosed in Nov(month correction) 2008 and died Nov. 2009  as I have ALWAYS SAID - my guy and I have been together since March 9, 2010 - Post where I said 3 years.  I have always said going on 2 years or 2 years - Your ignorance has truly outshone you this time -   smh  - also put an apostrophe and an "s" on the word let - it's "let's do basic math"

But how can I expect you to do "basic math" when you can't read "basic English" - your recall skills are non-existent.

Who I have been speaking of IS MY EX.  We didn't mention names since you don't know him there was no need for me to mention "which boyfriend/husband" in which I refer - smh, smh - we are listing scenarios and I have listed scenarios and experiences I have had.  

Do you have anything else you want to say?  lolololol - Can you spell "i.diot"?  How about "buffoon"?  or maybe "ignoramus" - yes - choose one of those 3 for your next "username"  once you burn through Caliente and Chima for the hundredth time.

What was it Chima - mad because I mentioned "what you have stated about Mr. Chima over and over again?  Did I lie?  All I did was repeat what came FROM YOUR MOUTH about the hubby.  It wasn't meant to hurt you as your lashing out at me - was clearly your intent.  

Unfortunately for you - my skin is much thicker than that and I see through your BS.  

To bring up my dead husband and then misquote dates and then try to align me as being a "cheater" - You are a lowlife scum - don't get angry because I was surprised at your defense of the topic when you CLEARLY tell eveyone constantly about how your husband will fight.  

You posted a thread about fighting in a club and how you WILL DEFEND YOUR MAN and how someone approached your table wrong and you asked the other women would they fight and you egged everyone on in that thread.  That was when we knew you as Queeneve.  That userid.  Or was it Queen.eve. or Queeneve._

MRbrownJAY:
@Mrs C
sorry i do get you, i am mixing up what you've written with what Shy-baby is writing.

@Shy One
ahahahahahah lady, make up your mind!!!! first you said that if your bf would beat up a guy who molested you, he wouldn't go to jail. so i showed you that you were wrong about that statement, and now you are trying to play it off like i am making a story, BWAAAAH. . . . . . at least, ACCEPT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG!

BTW remember that we are still talking about TOSIN's statement about PUNCHING A GUY WHO GRABBED YOUR GAL's A[b]S[/b]S, right?! so what are you talking about?!

i repeat: you punch a guy because he touches you gf's a[b]s[/b]s, YOU GO TO JAIL!!!!!

Yes you are mixed up and you are mixing up many things my friend.  One of which is that I "am not your baby"

You call me Shy-baby and in the very same quote and only a few words away you call me Shy-One - so obviously you know my name.   

There is a thin line between love and hate you know- abeg - don't cross it.  It truly baffles me that I get "under your skin so much"  and have this effect on you - the wise sage of NL.

Yeah - I'm telling you - it's that gypsy in me.  I have to beat her down.  Her appeal at times is quite magnetic.

MRbrownJAY:
^^^stop making up stories as you go along (once again), here is what YOU wrote earlier:

so we are safe to say that expecting your man to be FIGHTING/BEING PHYSICAL is your way of solving the issue, because if it isnt then PLEASE, tell us all what has your bf got to do with anything then?! duh!!!! can't you even talk for yourself?! your man gotta do that for you now?!

as i said, there are many things a woman can do, BUT, the minute someone ELSE takes this matter into their own hands (and is physical) then they will surely end up in jail, unless it is to "directly" protect her.

I am a woman - and you are bullying me - which is to be expected FROM A COWARD - you shall know them by their acts.

Look at you - out of control - can barely pull yourself from your keyboard.

All I said was if I am in the presence - in the presence - in the presence

of my MAN

He handles situations such as what "Tosinville" described - he handles those situations on my behalf.

Most men don't even HAVE TO FIGHT - when they come across a man that isn't going to "put up" with certain behaviors - those men back down immediately and if they don't back-down - and it escalates - if my mate fights and he needs my help - I am not going to run either. (I made that clear in different ways)

You just can't accept that EVERYBODY ISN'T YOU.

Obviously you and I are not going to agree. So to each his own. I encourage you to go back to that cup you are drinking on your profile. Drown yourself in it. Take the comfort from it that you need to support you in your views, theories and trains of thought.

MRbrownJAY:
@Shy One
ahahahahahah lady, make up your mind!!!! first you said that if your bf would beat up a guy who molested you, he wouldn't go to jail. so i showed you that you were wrong about that statement, and now you are trying to play it off like i am making a story, BWAAAAH. . . . . . at least, ACCEPT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG!

BTW remember that we are still talking about TOSIN's statement about PUNCHING A GUY WHO GRABBED YOUR GAL's A[b]S[/b]S, right?! so what are you talking about?!

i repeat: you punch a guy because he touches you gf's a[b]s[/b]s, YOU GO TO JAIL!!!!!

Immediately after Tosin made his statement - you made every attempt to blow it out of the water.  He was just being honest and BEING A MAN.  You didn't maintain the integrity of "Tosin's statement" - you put it in another light.  

You must be boozing early - as you frequent clubs on the regular - it sounds like you are chugging one down and "throwing them back" as you type - lololololololol

What is it?  Heineken, 4 Horsemen or some Palm Wine?  You blow Tosinville's statement out of the water - you walk all over it and kick it around as though it has grown soccer-ball-like-raw-hide and now you are wanting me to maintain the integrity of his statement?

You left his statement some pages back and started saying that "the girl should do this and do that and be the man when she is accosted" - don't you recall?

[Shy-One holds up her middle finger and asks the Sunday Drunk MBJ how many fingers does he see] smh.

MRbrownJAY:
@Shy One
you clearly are CLUELESS about the law when you think that: if a man touches YOUR a[b]s[/b]s (and your bf beats him up), it is considered self defense. NONSENSE!!!
if your bf beats him up, he is using excessive force to stop the crime (since you are no more in "danger" and therefore this is no more DEFENSE/PROTECTION but RETRIBUTION for the crime committed. . . . . . . . .  therefore your bf can be charged with ASSAULT and BATTERY for it.

again - you only use this as example - my bf beating him up?  is that the only example you cling to in this discussion?  Retribution?  Now it is Retribution.  Oh Good Grief.  You are a "work of art" - to say the least - your examples are now going to go to a Vendetta and Retribution level - why don't you make something up about that next - I'm sure you will reach for another example that will border on vigilante action from my bf because someone touched my azz,  lololololololol

Also Chima - Not trying to be rude, but I clearly recall in NUMEROUS THREADS:

NL has heard you over and over and over and over again - talk about Mr. Chima and what he would do if someone looked at you too long or touched you and HOW JEALOUS AND PROTECTIVE he is.  He doesn't want you talking to another man - he is across the room rolling his eyes at you, etc., etc., etc.,

So I am surprised to hear your "reversal" - it's good to finally receive 2 differing sides to your story.  But You have talked about Mr. Chima as being the one who will not put up with his own relative, brother, cousin, neighbor, friend or stranger approaching you and the problems it would cause.  

So now when I say the same thing about my mate - Now it is "Shy One" and how women need to handle things on their own.  Your husband doesn't want you talking to another man.  

You are jumping on MBJ's bandwagon when I say my man would be offended if I handled another man in his presence.  You start talking about how women should handle things on their own.  smh  - Give me a break.

lolololololololol

OK, Yeah - right!

harakiri:
Sometimes, I wonder how people reason. You expect a boyfriend to start acting all macho when he hears gun shots? If he gets gunned down, it's people like you who would be the first to call him a senseless fool and woman wrapper. This reminds me of all those tertiary school cult boys who kill themselves over a girl that would most definitely get married to a "jew man". Some even died over a woman influenced fracas without knowing who the lady was. I am very manly in physique and mind but if I hear gun shots and I'm not armed at the time, the lady is on her own. If she can run with me, fine but I won't let her slow me down. There's nothing macho when it comes to bullets coz when you die, she will be the one telling the whole world how dumb you were in acting "super hero" and on top of that, she will sleep with your best friend! So much for being macho!

Everyone should run when there is a gun.  I am in agreement with you on this point - no doubt.  I think the poster was hurt that he ran and left her - she was wedged between the wall and the door and she didn't know at that time that the armed gunmen were police.  She was afraid.

You know this conversation just made me recall a visual of my stepfather#1 (he is now dead) - we were in a car traveling and it was very late at night - and I was sitting in the front seat my stepfather was driving the car, my mom sat next to him and I sat on the passenger door.  And my 3 siblings were in the backseat.  The car stalled so my stepfather pulled over on the side of the road and as soon as the engine cut off, my stepfather heard a rumbling under the hood and he shouted at the top of his lungs for us to hurry and get out of the car and he jumped out of the front seat and took off running away from the car.  My siblings who were asleep, it was between 2am-4am - my siblings woke up crying and startled and they then jumped out of the car - my mom spent time waking them and yelling for them to get out of the car - the coward of a man was long gone by then.  While my innocent little self was sitting on the door and out of fear I just couldn't move - I was paralyzed, glued to my seat - blocking my mom's exit and my exit - I kept hearing the screaming but it seemed like it was unreal and everything felt like it was going in slow motion - I couldn't wrap my mind around it.  My mind just couldn't think, couldn't move - my mom was pushing and pulling and screaming and my Coward-Azzz.  stepfather was in the grass looking at us from a distance.

That yellow bellied man saved his own azz.  and made no attempt whatsoever to come to the vehicle to assist a very young girl and his young beautiful wife.  A cowardly man - but hey he saved his own azz.

NL - Guess what he saved his azz. from?  The only thing that was blowing was a ruptured hose to the radiator in the car that made the car shake and rumble - that was it.  He was a gutless bloke of a man.  Years later in life - he died alone.  All for One and all for self.  They said very few attended the funeral.

Who showed one and all that he wasn't a man at all.

MRbrownJAY:
@ALL
you see, this is why so many women are here talking NONSENSE, while they have no clue what are the consequences of any actions that they want their man to take. they dont know what SELF DEFENSE means (focus on self) or they think that beating a guy up to protect her is ok with the law

we ALL have to educate these women who are clearly delusional:
- there is a huge difference between PROTECTION and RETRIBUTION.
- beating a guy up that touches a woman's a[b]s[/b]s is, CLEARLY, using excessive force to stop the act, therefore
it's ASSAULT/BATTERY.

Again - you over-exaggerate and go to the extreme "just to make your points."

You are the only one who has initiated "knocking someone unconscious"

What I have said is that IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE that my "Man would handle Another Man Who disrespects Me in His Presence" - that altercation doesn't necessarily mean going "crazy and brutish" - but if it escalates to that level - he wouldn't want me party to it.

But as usual - you go to the extreme to nail a point.

ASSAULT - is legally seen as exactly what the person who "grabs your azzz" is doing

BATTERY - is legally seen as what a man would do if he hit the other man

You should learn your legal terms in this arena.

But regardless of any of the above - a woman's place is to allow her mate to handle another man and not be a SHE-MAN in your man's presence.

MRbrownJAY:
@Shy One
i guess you are not familiar with the law, it's understandable:
- if you smack a guy so that he stops grabbing your a[b]s[/b]s, HE goes to jail, you dont!
- if you give him a tongue lashing, it's to put emphasis on what he did but YOU STILL PRESS CHARGES AGAINST HIM.
- if YOU are molested and YOUR BF beats the guy up then that IS NOT defending yourself, that's assault!!! educate yourself!

^^^^

I have a Bachelors Degree in "Community Leadership" with a minor in "Law" - Now LET'S REVISIT your little statement(s) ^^^ tell me - "Mr. I know what I am talking about" who REALLY needs to educate who? lololololol - again I repeat "You are Clueless"

Cravessex:
I have one of mine to tell,

One nice evening, my guy picked me up from work and took me home, we were close to my street but still in his car talking romance when suddenly a bus full of men with guns stopped in front of our parked car.

Unfortunately, he parked in such a way that the passenger side was too close to a wall and I couldn't get out.
Wham! he opened his side of the door and took off! Leaving me trapped! They chased and caught him.
Fortunately, it was the police. what a relief.

I left him after that, what a douche.

I feel you completely.

Love loses all ground for me - when I am left to fend for myself - it sounds as though the guy you were with was into some illegal behavior. He probably needed to run but maybe they had him confused with someone else.

Did you at least try to find out what they arrested him for? It could have been a case of mistaken identity and he might have needed you to intervene on his behalf.

MRbrownJAY:
@Mrs C
one thing is for sure I MBJ will not fight a man who has touched my woman's a[b]s[/b]s. . . . . . far from it, i will actually enjoy that as it will surely cost this ignorant man a great deal of money!!!!

@shy One
i will never pretend to be who i am not:
- lowering myself to some ignorant man's level: i think NOT!
- fist fighting to make a point with an ignorant man: i think NOT!
- trying to solve a crime by doing a crime: come on i am smarter than that!
- my brain is what i will use to BEAT any of these ignorant men, lowering myself to their sorry level is what they would WISH i'd do. I think NOT!

but hey, lets look at it with an open mind:
-solution A (MBJ)
an ignorant guy grabs my gf's a[b]s[/b]s, we call the cops, have him arrested and charged. the guy pay a heavy fine to settle out of court and we (gf and I) are happier, and the only person losing is the Ignorant guy who clearly deserves anything he got!

- solution B (SHY ONE)
an ignorant guy grabs Shy One's a[b]s[/b]s, her bf retaliates by knocking the guy cold. the guy press charges against her bf for assault. Shy One's bf goes to jail where he becomes someone's biatch for a few months (tossing salads  and getting his bootay rammed on demand), and to make matters worse, he has to pay the ignorant guy to settle the assault case (imagine that?!).
so shy One bf will lose both MONEY and his MANHOOD, on top of the time spent behind bars.

but all is not lost for Shy One as she will regard her bf as a "BRAVE GUY FOR DEFENDING HER HONOR", while my gf and I (the coward) will be having cold Mojitos on some paradise islands, thanks to the money we made.

anyone who stop using their brains to defend some BS honor, has only themselves to blame for what happens to them. MY BRAIN IS, AND WILL ALWAYS BE, MY GREATEST WEAPON!!!!!!

Your mind is CLEARLY CLOSED and if there is a CRACK OF AN OPENING IN YOUR MIND - it is to ONLY CONSIDER your "escape route" that you have so painstakingly planned for MBJ and for MBJ ONLY. 

My position and Your Position = Never the 2 shall meet.

Though YOU WON'T HIT OR FIGHT YOU EXPECT your woman to who has been grabbed in front of you to either:

A) turn around and smack the hell out of this fool[b] (I See You Have No Problem with Encouraging Her to Go to Jail - BUT HEY BETTER HER THAN YOU RIGHT?)[/b]

B) give him a tongue lashing, insulting his future grandchildren (So she can get her a.zz kicked for RUNNING HER MOUTH - but AGAIN hey - better her than you right?)


Also, Let us not forget YOUR WONDERFUL REFERRAL TO NL Males:

depending on what type of girlfriend you have, she should choose in a situation where she has been violated - whatever she decides to do has NOTHING to do with you, if she does nothing then i suggest you reassess your r/ship.

[/quote]MBJ says:
[quote]- solution B (SHY ONE)
an ignorant guy grabs Shy One's a[b]s[/b]s, her bf retaliates by knocking the guy cold. the guy press charges against her bf for assault. Shy One's bf goes to jail where he becomes someone's biatch for a few months (tossing salads  and getting his bootay rammed on demand), and to make matters worse, he has to pay the ignorant guy to settle the assault case (imagine that?!).
so shy One bf will lose both MONEY and his MANHOOD, on top of the time spent behind bars.

but all is not lost for Shy One as she will regard her bf as a "BRAVE GUY FOR DEFENDING HER HONOR", while my gf and I (the coward) will be having cold Mojitos on some paradise islands, thanks to the money we made.

Your reasoning is limited - does that happen in London?  It doesn't in the U.S. - if someone openly molests you - and you defend yourself - you don't go to jail unless you live in some really backward states - Wisconsin and Michigan have some archaic laws that favor "collecting inmate" - Here in Indiana - if you are accosted in the scenario you have listed as you quoted above - My BF or Husband wouldn't go to jail, wouldn't receive any reprimand on any level - If someone broke in our home and we killed the perpetrator - nothing would occur either.

It's illegal to be harassed sexually in the workplace, in school, or on the street.  The police aren't going to side with the perpetrator - they are going to arrest his unconscious asss.  My boyfriend and I will be toasting each other in the quiet confines of our home.  Shy-One will be giving him some well deserved attention and he will be giving me the same.  We will be very grateful for and to each other my friend.

I tire ooooo - your constant attempts to make it AS YOU WANT IT.  Let it go - really.

You don't have to defend your cowardly position to me.  Just call it as it is.  Americans are known to defend their homes and their persons and that isn't going to change.

A woman "being able to take care of herself whether her man is around or not" isn't relevant. Anyone - male or female can take care of themselves - no one is refuting that OBVIOUS FACT.

The issue is - if her man is standing in her presence and she is being dishonored TO NO FAULT OF HER OWN - she shouldn't have to haul off and fight and he is right there.

If a woman hits your man in front of you - your man would expect you, his woman to have his back in that situation. I wouldn't date a man who would expect me to handle a "man in his presence." He iSn't a man, he isn't a boy - HE IS AN I.DIOT. I don't suffer i.diots.

Point blank period.

MRbrownJAY:
^^ my point exactly sista, so DEFEND YOURSELF!!!
why would i punch (or rumble) with a guy who touched YOUR Bottom?! thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard!!!
here is a clue: by doing that i can go to fukcing JAIL for assault, by doing that i can lose a LOT of money for "out of court" settlement. . . . . . . . .so we can clearly see what kind of man you got, the type that aint got much between the ears.

and if we are in 9ja then i will simply hand over a few $100s to some area boys to do my dirty work! why should i lower myself to ignorant people's level.

dont believe the HYPE, i am a SMART man. . . . . . unless you can tell me what i will gain from acting like an ignorant bush man is going to achieve!

a dumbasss grabs your Bottom, you tell your bf, he beats the guy up, the guy press charges for assault, your ignorant bf GOES TO JAIL!!!

Thank God my man moves MUCH FASTER THAN I DO.  I don't have to defend myself in his presence - just as in my presence he doesn't have to cook his own meals unless I am too tired or unless he offers to cook.  That is the beauty of still retaining SOMEWHAT traditional relationships.

Also - let's hope "Area Boys" are everywhere you go - it sounds like you need them around you and your girl AT ALL TIMES.  They have to handle your business FOR YOU.  How "ignorant does that sound?"

smh - you will hold onto any scrap of BS to defend your "cowardly position" and "lazy stance" - thy name is "Miser MBJ" - you withhold money and you withhold your manhood from stepping up to the plate - I wonder what else those "Area Boys" should do for your woman "On your behalf"? Let's hope she isn't "overly pleased with one or more of them" - who are defending her in front of you.

smh

anyway - enough responding to you - today is a work day.

yayyyyy!!!

MRbrownJAY:
^^again, dont misunderstand what i am writing. the girls were on the dance floor, i was nowhere near them (not that it would matter anyway) the guy grabbed her a[b]s[/b]s skillfully, she reacted to it straight up!
now i know that a woman like you would run accross the club back to where your bf is and then tell him of what happened, lol come on now!

again, it doesnt matter if your bf sees it or not, what matters is how YOU will react to being violated. you are making no sense if you are saying that your bf should jump in and "save your honor".
now the important question WAS: what would you do if your bf is not around?! because whatever you do then is what i would expect you to do when he is around.

talking the way you do, i do feel sorry for your bf because any man who looks bigger/stronger than him could do what they please with you then? unless of course, your bf is SUPERMAN, yeah!
what you are clearly saying is that what belongs to him, actually belongs to whoever can knock his Bottom out since that's how you value him. lol!

i can already picture it: guy grabs your Bottom, your bf interferes and he get his a[b]s[/b]s ROYALLY WHOOPED, then the guy who violated you simply comes over and continue violating you. lol! what you are saying makes no damn sense.
HERE IS A SIMPLE CLUE: if a guy grabs your asss in the presence of your bf then that stranger CLEARLY is ready to "deal" with the guy who is with you!

MBJ - JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY IT IS, DOESN'T MAKE IT SO - your scenarios don't apply to me - deep in your heart I know you wish they did - but they DON'T.  You are a coward - plain and simple.  Also - if a guy grabs my assss in the presence of my man - the majority of society who assume the person is drunk or high or mentally ill because their thought process can't be too clear.

"the bigger they are - THE HARDER THEY FALL" - have you not heard?  size doesn't mean much - Sugar Ray Leonard was small in stature. 

You are a coward and I pity the white girls with whom you run - let's hope you don't look less of a man in their eyes.

MRbrownJAY:
^^again, dont misunderstand what i am writing. the girls were on the dance floor, i was nowhere near them (not that it would matter anyway) the guy grabbed her a[b]s[/b]s skillfully, she reacted to it straight up!
now i know that a woman like you would run accross the club back to where your bf is and then tell him of what happened, lol come on now!

again, it doesnt matter if your bf sees it or not, what matters is how YOU will react to being violated. you are making no sense if you are saying that your bf should jump in and "save your honor".
now the important question WAS: what would you do if your bf is not around?! because whatever you do then is what i would expect you to do when he is around.

talking the way you do, i do feel sorry for your bf because any man who looks bigger/stronger than him could do what they please with you then? unless of course, your bf is SUPERMAN, yeah!
what you are clearly saying is that what belongs to him, actually belongs to whoever can knock his Bottom out since that's how you value him. lol!

i can already picture it: guy grabs your Bottom, your bf interferes and he get his a[b]s[/b]s ROYALLY WHOOPED, then the guy who violated you simply comes over and continue violating you. lol! what you are saying makes no damn sense.
HERE IS A SIMPLE CLUE: if a guy grabs your asss in the presence of your bf then that stranger CLEARLY is ready to "deal" with the guy who is with you!

^^^^

YOU ARE AWARE that you just started a new topic and HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO TOSIN'S EXAMPLE - what you did do HOWEVER is to take HIS PARTIAL STATEMENT and give him a SCHOOL QUIZ and then you encouraged him to leave his girl if she didn't choose A-D WHILE IN HIS PRESENCE.  You took his ability "to be the man against another man" - you took that ability away from him and you THREW IT IN the lap of the weaker sex both physically and street-wise.  A large majority of men are more street-wise and physically stronger than women.

Now you want to know what I would do if alone.  First, I don't go to clubs unless MY MATE IS WITH ME.  I think in the past 10 years I went to a club ONLY ONCE with my sister and her FEMALE friends - I looked up and only after an hour at the club - my man was standing in the doorway and he came with a male friend (my sister's husband) - so it is rare that I even frequent places by myself or without his presence - either he, one of his family members or his friends.

Because I am so well known - "My parents used to own a nightclub and my parents have taught a large majority of individuals in the local schools" - my honor is always defended most places I ever go.  So I don't know how I would react because It is rare that I am alone in the SPECIFIC SCENARIOS that you list on NL.

I will defend myself if threatened is all I can say.  I also won't allow a man to molest me.  I am not a screamer so there won't be any hissy fits or tantrums.  If a man puts their hands on me - if it comes to that - I can say that this individual will have a very long line that will form around him of different men who will beat him to a pulp on my behalf.  SO if I have to defend myself - it will be short lived.  Others will and have taken over on my behalf.  More men are in my family then women.

MRbrownJAY:
^^oh lawd, here come Shy One again, lol!
ok i guess it says a lot about you, it also happened to me before, my girl smacked the guy in his face. i asked her why did she do that for and she then replied:"that fool grab my asss."
as i said earlier, SHE did what SHE thought was best to protect herself from such guy.

now if a guy grabs your a[b]s[/b]s and the FIRST thing that comes to your mind is to call your bf for help then we can all understand what kind of woman you are.lol. . . . . . . . . . and i would certainly run from such individual.
funny as in another thread, you were talking about fighting your way out of BS, but yet, now fighting is not one of your priorities.
MAY I ASK WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IF YOUR BF WASNT PRESENT?!

@ MBJ

Again - you come at me with "partial statements that I make" - lolololololol - you take 3 partial statements on 3 differing threads and piece those statements together as a whole - then you tie my name to that illogical blob that you self-created and you put it back in my lap in its new unrecognizable state; to make matters worse you tag it as some type of documentation you can use in positions you take on threads.  lololololol

I don't fight - BUT I WILL FIGHT IF BACKED INTO A CORNER AND IN DEFENSE OF MYSELF AND MY MATE.  I made that clear - I didn't mix my words.  Fighting in defense is a different area than fighting to perpetrate.  I am not a coward - I don't pick fights and I will walk away if I can - but I will fight my way out of any corner and will defend my mate and my family.

Again - pointing back at the question that YOU RESPONDED TO - Tosinville made it clear that "If he is with his Girl and a stranger grabs her backside" - what the heck does she have any business defending herself in his presence against ANOTHER MAN WHO IS STRONGER THAN HER AND FROM ALL APPEARANCES IS AN IGNORANT MAN?  That is what the question was.

"My man has told me to hold onto his belt and stand behind him.  He and I discussed many scenarios that could or would jump off so that we as a couple would have a handle on different situations.  I knew that I had to get out of the way or I would be fighting against him by putting myself in harms way.  And I would destroy his efforts on OUR BEHALF."

Smh - MBJ are you one of the userid's that just "don't like to read"?

MRbrownJAY:
^^oh lawd, here come Shy One again, lol!
ok i guess it says a lot about you, it also happened to me before, my girl smacked the guy in his face. i asked her why did she do that for and she then replied:"that fool grab my asss."
as i said earlier, SHE did what SHE thought was best to protect herself from such guy.

now if a guy grabs your a[b]s[/b]s and the FIRST thing that comes to your mind is to call your bf for help then we can all understand what kind of woman you are.lol. . . . . . . . . . and i would certainly run from such individual.
funny as in another thread, you were talking about fighting your way out of BS, but yet, now fighting is not one of your priorities.
MAY I ASK WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IF YOUR BF WASNT PRESENT?!

@Mr Chima
yeah, a woman who can't handle herself out there on her own (and require your help for EVERYTHING) is a LIABILITY. the day you are not there then we can all imagine what she will do.

as for the pic, nah it's just jokes, we all enjoy your posts on NL (at least "most" times)!

@ MBJ - your girlfriend knows the kind of "cowardly boyfriend" she has in you - so I can understand her "having to defend her own honor in your presence" - she knows you will run to a phone looking for a security officer or a bouncer which could arrive after she has been "b1tch slapped back by a much stronger male" - let's be happy that when she slapped him - he didn't pound a hole in her ass in your very presence - as you have informed us that your duty is to either "leave her to deal with the mess she started" or you will "run away - no need for both of you to get stomped" (per your very wording) - you will run to get security while simultaneously encouraging her to "hold on baby, the police will be here in a moment while her head is getting slammed into the pavement for daring to lift her hand and strike a man"

Also let me note that AGAIN "You have taken another writer's words and twisted them" - Tosinville's example is what was being responded to - he said a guy was to touch his girl's backside in FRONT OF HIM - so your stating that your girl had to tell you WHAT WAS GOING ON - made it clear that you were not around or if you were around you were unaware of what was happening.

And you respond to Tosinville WITH A SURVEY? lololololol - A "Multiple Choice Questionnaire" - my man would be furious if I did A, B, C, or D - and he would react too fast for me to even have the time to remember that I had any option but HIM.

My man is my option - let another guy reach out and touch what belongs to my man that is on my body. lolololololololol

smh

Orikinla:
If your boyfriend is not man enough to protect you, then he is not worthy to be your boyfriend. On calling the cops? Not in Nigeria. The men in Jos went to get the cops and soldiers, but before they returned their wives and children were already murdered. I have seen where cops took to their heels instead of responding to distress calls. There was a case where two young ladies escaped from rapists and ran to the police station during campus riot, and guess what happened? The cops wanted to violate them overnight! They had to run away from the cops.

Spot ON!

You are "not living in denial"  -  "neither are you a coward my friend"

I would fear dating anyone who is like many of the posters as I realize that with that individual "Til Death Do Us Part" - will come sooner rather than later.  They would expect me to be the man and handle other men in their presence.  They want a SHE-MAN - who pays a large majority of their bills, fights off male intruders, be the man in many situations as to relieve them of any responsibility.  And if I didn't "make the right decision at the time because I am not well versed in having to defend myself" because I have always been blessed with "men who handled their affairs in my regard" - then these same men would lay blame at my feet for not responding or responding in error.

Thank Goodness Nigeria is a "patriarchal society" - where men are quick to ascertain who should be in charge in areas such as this.  My assumption would be that they would not allow their woman (Girlfriend or wife) to have to fend off an abusive male in their presence.  And then blame her if she chose the wrong reaction.

iice:
[color=#9900ff]Important. We are tribalistic. [/color]

From all that I have read on NL and off of NL - as well as my friendships with Africans in Chicago and in South Bend - I can say that you speak the truth.

It is just as important as ethnicity here in the U.S. - AA, White, German, French - tribe or ethnicity does play A MAJOR role - we are what we have been raised to think, respond and view life especially relationships.

There are many blacks that won' t marry outside of their race and whites as well. So I can definitely believe that a large majority of Africans can view marrying into different tribes in the same manner. Many aren't accepting of tribe mixing either.

lololololol

So if she does A, B, C or D - HAS NOTHING TO DO with her man who is walking RIGHT NEXT TO HER on the street when this happens?

SMH

In a situation such as that - "That exact situation has happened to me more than once" - Neither time did I have to do A, B, C, or D - because my man who was walking next to me - became the man and handled the man who just disrespected me - my man didn't expect me to respond to another man IN HIS PRESENCE. And my man would have been offended if I had given the other man ANY ATTENTION WHATSOEVER.

I didn't have to choose a right or wrong choice - he handled this stranger who was his "same gender" - as the woman and as HIS WOMAN - I didn't have to curse, slap or disrespect myself because I was "being abused" by a stranger in the presence of my man.

You are a BIG DREAMER - I don't know any man, young or old that would allow their woman to handle another man who disrespects him (by handling his woman) in his presence

Yes MBJ - you are "indescribable" - so you are saying that SHE should either do A-D and if she does NONE OF THE ABOVE - then her man should make plans on moving from the relationship.

lolololololol - gosh - smh - I am out of the thread. 

NL - wow