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Steep:
The true church is not a building nor a temple.
They are people who have trusted solely in christ as their saviour and as a result washed in Jesus blood.

The Body and Blood is very important in the life of a christian. Because it is when you eat and drink his blood that you proclaim his death.

Kobojunkie:
That is according to what is the Law of Moses, and as God told you, that applies only to those who have the blood of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob running through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 30. A gentile can shed blood all day long and will never be forgiven anything by God.

So, when Jesus Christ's blood was shed for the forgiveness of sins on teh cross, that part applied only to those of Hebrew descent. It had nothing to do with those of us who are Gentiles.

Jesus Christ never said only priests can serve communion. The priests of the Old Law of Moses were appointed by God Himself. Jesus Christ, in His New Covenant agreement, never appointed any man priest over His followers. Instead, He said all His followers are equal in the Kingdom of God. He told each and every one of His followers to drink His blood and eat His body in remembrance of Him, meaning each man is able to, on His own, carry out the ritual for himself even, in remembrance of Jesus Christ. So what your priests do in your communion ceremonies have absolutely nothing to do with that decreed by Jesus Christ in His New Law and Agreement.

I disagree with you on your last sentence.


Read up those bible verses I outlined.

The holy Communion is for REMISSION of sin

For there to be forgiveness, there must be sacrifice of blood. Instead of the animal sacrifice Jesus himself came down as the sacrificial lamb which was slain for our sin.

Now this sacrifice is meant to be carried out by the Priest alone.

Now you can only find a Priest in the catholic church alone.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid it doesn't. This since it speaks instead of the Blood of Jesus Christ being poured out for the forgiveness of sins and to begin the New agreement from God to His people.

is self explanatory nah? Stop the contradiction boss.

Kobojunkie:
Remission of what sins? Before I came to Jesus Christ, I was an unbeliever and not under any of God's Laws so, what sins did I need to have remitted?

Mathew 26:28 will answer your question.

Jesus also reaffirm: I am the the way the truth and the light. No one gets to The Father except through me (meaning receiving the blessed sacrament of the Eucharist)

Kobojunkie:
Where is the statement in bold found in the Bible though?

Mathew 26:28

Kobojunkie:
What is the holy communion you speak of meant for? And where is it written that you can't call it a church without this ritual you speak of?

is meant for the REMISSION of sin

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ changed the narrative? The same Jesus Christ who swore that He did not come to change the Law but instead to fulfill it - Matthew 5 vs 17 - 18, something He did by living His life in submission and obedience of the very Old Covenant & Law of Moses?

So do you offer animal sacrifice currently?

Daniel058:
Brother man remember that you said ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

Most of the Way of worship of Roman gods and goddesses were brought into that church. Through emperor Constantine . It's true.

Also,I urge you to type " Lists of Bad Popes on Google and see something For yourself.

The bible says that the true church will face tribulations. Yes, we know the Antichrist is in the church. But that wouldnt stop the gospel.

If the pope allow homosexuality, must I now engage in it when I know is a sin against God?

Dtruthspeaker:
See it! You prove that they are not from God for God was very very clear as to the requirements of His Priests and there duties AND THEIR PERSONAL LIVES!

Aaron's children died when they made this error!

You are not getting it bro.

The children of Aaron were not priest and are not permited this offer the sacrifice. God was displeased and he strike them out.


Same with king Saul, who was supposed to wait for Samuel who is a priest to offer the sacrifice. He was purnished, you remember?

The job of the priest (Rev. Fathers) is to offer sacrifice while the job of the prophets(Pastors) is to preach the good news and perform miracle.

Samuel is the only prophet and priest we have ever had.

Now pastors are conducting Communion service which they are not not called to do.

The Holy communion is Paramount in every believers life.


The Holy communion existed even in the garden of eden. That is the tree of life. God have to chase them away (Adam and eve) from having access to the tree coz there would have been REMISSION if Adam and Eve had rush to the tree and eat from the tree of life.

In the old testament, is called the tree of life but in the new testament is called bread of life.

Dtruthspeaker:
Are your priests sons of Aaron?

Were women allowed near the alter?

Is that place Holy?

Is your priest holy and consecrated in accordance to God's Laws? We dey see una priest and how dem dey carry LovePeddler.s, drink anyhow and not to talk of them teaching exactly what the Pharisees and scribes taught.

Boy, that place is the house of Satan and every evil work is there as even proven by the statements which una leader called pope says.

Whether they fornicate or smoke is their personal life. The singular reason reason they are called into the priesthood is to offer the sacrifice of the body and blood. And that is what God is after. On the last day they will cry, Lord we healed in your name, we cast out demon but God will say , I know you not.

What am trying to pass across is that, the communion you receive doing

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your communion service does not hold water.

Only the priest is ordained to carry out such sacrifice. But is so sad that now pastors now indulge in it.
Go and read why samuel said OBIDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE

1samuel 17:34

Read it carefully.

[quote author=Romanoff post=116225896]Please, where in the bible did you get this assertion?[/quote

For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins. Mathew 26:28

[quote author=Romanoff post=116225896]Please, where in the bible did you get this assertion?[/quote

For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.

If you read your bible from the old testament, you will realized that there is a distinctive diffence between a prophet and priest.

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you have changed post to say breaking of bread aka bles Sac aka hol com.

Which the Bible has already told us that is not what makes a Church.

How sure s your claim

This is my blood, the blood of the new and evalasting covenant, which will be pour out for you and many for the REMISSION of sin.

Before it use to be sacrificing animals on the alter before Jesus came to change the narrative into body and blood of Christ

Romanoff:
Please, where in the bible did you get this assertion?

It is littered all over in the bible.

There is a big difference between the Catholic church and other ministries. Without receiving the body and drinking his blood, you risk going to hell.


Read your bible

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible said they were Jews and not Romans. So it can not be!

Not really.

Without the blessed sacrament (Holy Communion) in the building, you can't call it a church.

Before you will start arguing, go and read the bible very well.

ijustdey:
https://punchng.com/tinubu-spent-five-years-attacking-jonathan-omokri/

I really missed yaradua/Jonathan candidacy.

Kagd10:
We want a functioning country. That's all we want. Let's forget party and look at individuals cos if we were to look at party, we would realise that Peter Obi was previously in PDP and Atiku was previously in APC.. Hence take a look at the individual and their legacies. What we rather want is a functional country, Not one where old looter like Atiku who destroyed Nigeria is brought back again.. Or is it Peter Obi who did absolute nothing and couldn't grow Anambra economy but instead, was still looting the meagre Anambra was generating

Anyone who wants to champion failureeee should let such failureeee rule him. It's simple.



While Atiku was looting the country dry through the privatisation he supervised as a VP, City boy was building Lagos economy which is the 5th largest economy in Africa today despite OBJ seizing Lagos allocation for several years. Imagine that. No governor would have functioned without that. Heck, your looting Atiku wouldn't have functioned at all.


Tinubu's legacies in Lagos below:

1. Building of Public facilities: Standard Millennium Schools, Markets across the state, LASU projects and LASU Teaching Hospital, Other Major Hospitals/General Hospitals includes:

a. Ifako-Ijaye Hospital
b. Alimosho Hospital
c. Somolu Hospital
d. Mushin Hospital
e. Ibeju-Lekki hospital etc and several health care centres.

2. Massive Housing Estates across Lagos.

3. Development of Lekki Ajah axis and others.

4. Conceived the BRT project and constructed the dedicated BRT lane from Island to Mainland. BRT operation started fully under Fashola.

5. Massive Infrastructural development: Construction of Road networks all across Lagos. He invited President Obasanjo to Lagos to commission roads in Surulere, Yaba and other parts of Lagos.Tinubu

6. Then multi Dollar investment such as Lekki seaport, lekki trade zone, Eko Atlantic etc..

7.. Also several agencies which employed thousands of workers today.


We want Tinubu for a progressive Nigeria however who ever want a failuree should go impose such Failure on himself. We won't be part of it. It's simple.

When you're thinking of each candidate, always ask yourself, if you would allow such candidate to rule your region. What's their legacies relative to how they would improve the country? Let each candidate mention their legacies in relative to how they would improve the country. Like seriously, it's high time Nigeria progress for the better. Common!

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adekolaelect:
Oga all your stories is for another day. Presidency is not what you can Micro zone . Do you know what Tinubu undergone before he could get Apc Ticket? You are here talking as if presidency is giving like the post of ministers. One thing I know sure is that the presidency is between Tinubu and Atiku and hich you all know that obi presidency noise you are making up and down is just to reduce the block votes Tinubu can get from the south and you give Atiku chance to win then we know Yorubas are not making noise like you poeple that just stop marginalization,Fulanis Hijads, Ahusas are enslave south and all other noises .Yorubas are endurance than you poeple making noise up and down .your eye will open you will still go back to your Biafra noise after 2023 election .at least you can never be satisfy with the position of spare Tire VP in pdp.

Obj was picked from prison to president.obj also went to pick a lecture (yaradua). No stress. Now the youth are picking peter obi as their next president. Is a crime for the youth to fight for what is theirs?

Good market they sell himself. No time for long talk.

Dsalvo:
It can never be the automatic turn of a region who take a 'food is ready' approach to political power when you always show a disdain for assisting to cook the political meal that delivers power. You only want to eat after others put the effort in to cook the meal. You want the biggest portions as well.

You demonized and rejected the APC at birth yet you wanted to insult and blackmail the Party into 'dashing' you her ticket at the detriment of the deserving Yorubas.

You then failed, over 22 years, to make yourselves serious and dominant players in the PDP because you can never put in time and effort consistently over time. You people are always about instant gains.

Should the serious, strategically calculative and politically powerful Yorubas now join you to throw the slot of the South away pandering to the joke challenge of Obi he chose to prosecute in the joke Labour Party?

In fact Obi's conduct is indicative of everything wrong with Igbos. You demand things and wish to blackmail everyone but you are always found wanting when others are laying foundation block and ensuring the house has the requisite structural strength it needs to serve us all as shelter.

What you Igbos should have done, assuming you people are even into progress for Nigeria, and also assuming you are a patently reasonable and progressive people, is to negotiate with and partner with the SW that already has the capacity and political strength to mount a winning Presidential challenge.

My take is that you Igbo are a vainglorious and unreasonable people who only want the Presidency for the sake of it alone, and to dominate/control others, as you Igbos have historically remained obsessed with gaining without any interest in paying the political dues and partaking in the bridge-building that may make you dominant political players.

A big example is how the whole Biafra noise is dead completely today because Obi is now running. What bigger argument for the insincerity of the average Igbo than that?

If sincere about Biafra then why has Obi's Presidential challenge made you abandon it?

If previously serious about the Presidency why not put in real effort, beyond lip service alone and a sense of entitlement, intocompetent

a fit and united challenge for it?

We need a man with good records.
We need a man who is an competent

Not a baba who is very old and sick again.

What exactly is tifnubu coming to do, he endorsed buhari and we are still feeling the heat. Youth are leaving en masse for other countries.

We need a man that can restore hope back to the youth.



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Dsalvo:
It can never be the automatic turn of a region who take a 'food is ready' approach to political power when you always show a disdain for assisting to cook the political meal that delivers power. You only want to eat after others put the effort in to cook the meal. You want the biggest portions as well.

You demonized and rejected the APC at birth yet you wanted to insult and blackmail the Party into 'dashing' you her ticket at the detriment of the deserving Yorubas.

You then failed, over 22 years, to make yourselves serious and dominant players in the PDP because you can never put in time and effort consistently over time. You people are always about instant gains.

Should the serious, strategically calculative and politically powerful Yorubas now join you to throw the slot of the South away pandering to the joke challenge of Obi he chose to prosecute in the joke Labour Party?

In fact Obi's conduct is indicative of everything wrong with Igbos. You demand things and wish to blackmail everyone but you are always found wanting when others are laying foundation block and ensuring the house has the requisite structural strength it needs to serve us all as shelter.

What you Igbos should have done, assuming you people are even into progress for Nigeria, and also assuming you are a patently reasonable and progressive people, is to negotiate with and partner with the SW that already has the capacity and political strength to mount a winning Presidential challenge.

My take is that you Igbo are a vainglorious and unreasonable people who only want the Presidency for the sake of it alone, and to dominate/control others, as you Igbos have historically remained obsessed with gaining without any interest in paying the political dues and partaking in the bridge-building that may make you dominant political players.

A big example is how the whole Biafra noise is dead completely today because Obi is now running. What bigger argument for the insincerity of the average Igbo than that?

If sincere about Biafra then why has Obi's Presidential challenge made you abandon it?

If previously serious about the Presidency why not put in real effort, beyond lip service alone and a sense of entitlement, into grooming a fit and united challenge for it?

Save all your epistle for 2031. Let Obi lead and we follow.

adekolaelect:
which your country? Mofo recognised Nigeria as his own when election is near . Presidency is between North and South .North has done. it is South's time to do and Tinubu Lokan No any southern can take power from northerners now than Tinubu or countinuing fooling yourselves with emotional driving Egos.

if you agree is the turn of the south then why not agree is the turn of the southeast as well?

Obasanjo/atiku. - southwest and north
Yaradua/Jonathan - North and southsouth
Jonathan/sambo. South south and north
Buhari/osibanjo - north and southwest

Looking at the above and if you can be sincere, which region should produce the next president?

But we are not after that now. We need the man with a good thinking cap.

Peter the rock is the man.


We saw and still seeing how Tinubu converted Lagos to his personal atm machine.

They removed Abode from office coz he refused to play to the gallery (to be remitting N500million monthly into ancestor personal account)

Funsho William that would have brought sanity to Lagos was assassinated.


We don't need old people that should playing with their grandchildren in Aso rock).

This election is not about tribe, religion, connection, structure, brother, sister. It is about leadership, competence, transparency and much more.

Obi, where you at?

Jagabanofafrica:
Obi and his IPOB fanbase are comical. Do they think they will benefit electorally by discrediting BAT?

This election is a desperate 'cold war' between North and South. Stakes are very high because 'born to rule' Northerners who always demand power, so as to be able to control every Nigerian money - making parastatal and process, are at their most desperate , in the history of Nigeria, to ensure power remains in the North.

This is because they are petrified Buhari has done so much damage that any powerful Southerner, like Tinubu, will be demanded by the entire Nigeria to 'change it' for them and 'equalize'. There is real anger and bad blood in the heart of Southern Leaders over the perception Buhari has deliberately put the South in jeopardy to favour the North.

This is even why Atiku and Tambuwal combined desperately and jettisoned the need for fairness by finally destroying the North to South equitable power shift. Such is the desperation of some Northern leaders to hold on to power that they are willing to go into uncharted troubled water that may destroy the unity of Nigeria finally and completely.

Nigeria is now in a silent feudal war between North and South.

Even Kwankwaso has confessed that the 'mood' of the North is to retain power. What he failed to add is that it is the mood of Northern leaders and elite, whose existence depends on political power and patronage, he is referring to.

All in all, this is not Obi's level. It is not Amaechi's level or even Osinbajo's level. Those guys are not battle-ready leaders, like proven war generals, with a dedicated troop of leaders behind them who are ready to go to war with them.

Tinubu is the only Southerner who can battle the North so that Nigeria is reshaped in an image that benefits all to include even the Northerners ready to vote their historical and callous oppressors in the form of Kwankwaso and Atiku.

Obi is a little boy in a big man's game. He is going nowhere because there are levels and this is not his level nor his time. After Buhari, Nigeria will not survive the wrong choice of President for even 6 months.

Those talking about Obi are fantasists. Even in much better times in the past, Obi would never last as a President if he arrives with no legislators as he plans to do with Labour Party.


In today's troubled Nigeria, with so much good versus evil battle going on underground for the soul of our nation, Obi is just a clown in a joke of a political Party.

The North, if Atiku cannot win, would love Obi to win so they can impeach him within 3 months using the legislative majority we know they will always carry.

It is Tinubu, who is the most powerful southerner alive and a man who does not fear them, they are worried about and wish to keep out of Aso Rock by any means possible. Their continuous control of every sector of Nigeria desperately depends on keeping BAT awy from the Presidency.

If Obi had been in Tinubu's shoes, battling for the APC ticket against Northern 'born to rule' political fascism, he would have fled Nigeria to hide in Alaska.

The only good thing about Obi is that he will damage PDP's traditional strength in the SS and SE to the benefit of Tinubu and APC. Anyone thinking Obi has a chance does not understand the real desperate battle going on that cannot be spoken about openly by any of the candidates even though Kwankwaso has inadvertently clued on sharp Nigerians with his Northern "mood" talk.

We are not looking for who to wrestle power with the north. Rather, a person that will help us take back our country and give to us.

vastolord4:
Take drugs to regulate your BP as well.. de check your BP regularly, you're a Nigerian stress is normal (I take only prescribed drugs by the doctor)

This generation and drugs sha. He should Just constantly drink coconut water daily. It will put his blood pressure in check.

Next time watch your car exterior and interior couple with the engine before taking pics.