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I[b] agree with you 100%, you really don't mean to be rude[/b]. The truth is bitter, thats why u'll interprete me telling u the truth as insults, insult= ure a fool, ure stupid!, ure ignorant= bitter truth , anyhow since it seems like u can't handle the truth i'll desist from reminding u of your ignorance. ![]() Again merely making wild conjectures without showing relevant proof that what you claim was ever true. Where is the proof that the jews shared similar culture with the middle eastern folks? Did the jews dress the same way, eat the same kind of foods, celebrate the same kind of feasts, use similar names, worship similar idols? Did they speak the same language? All these are attributes are what we collectively refer to as "culture" today and your claim miserably fails the test. It is laughable that you bring up "common disregard for women" as an example of similarity in culture. The igbos, like the americans, do not prostrate before elders; does that mean they share similar culture? The jews had women judges (deborah!) in the bible and yet you claim they had a disregard for women? When Paul talked about women shutting in up in church (not what he said!) did he not give a specific reason (that the woman was tempted and not the man)? SHEESH!!!! they intemarried dog!!!!! tyhey imbibed eeach others culture, they had seral similar beliefs, didnt the bible give reports of Israelites who spent more time lusting after baal and his ways more than Jehovah Himself They were all Middle easterners (if such a word exists) they were all inhabitants of the fertile crescent' and so they imbibed customs from each other, i refuse to discuss this point furtherThe funny thing is NO ONE claimed that the knights and priests who burnt people at the stake where true or false christians. The gold standard for a religion is in its guide book (in this case the bible). Jesus Christ is the example of the model christian, anyone else who goes killing "infidels" does so at his own risk. Terrorists are not true muslims? Please ask Hamas, fatah warriors and osama bn laden. i wonder if u realise how much u contradicted yourself , pause , take sec and re-read your post, get it? u couldnt have presented the case better, ok, for Xtians the Book decids who's a xtian or not, so since the book says do not kill, even if i kill in the nameof Christ then it means im not a xtian, fine! agreed! but wait a mintue ? if a muslim claims he's killing people in the name of Allah, then he's holy book is not allowed to exonerate him, hes gotta be a true muslkim! i get your point! u know i never saw it your way before, it makes so much sense now, So the US is now to blame for selling weapons? Do i hear you blaming Russia for the Afghanistan problem? The US probably has more oil interests in Saudi Arabia than Kuwait. The US is at fault in Angola too? How? The US used nuclear weapons against Japan, however the Japanese are close allies with the US. The japs have no army and depend on the US for territorial defence. While the Japs clink glasses with the US, hypocrites like you are still crying more than the bereaved for over what did not affect you in 1945! The US DID NOT supply chemical weapons used to gas the Kurds in 1983. So much for someone asking others to check their facts. since im not allowed to say ure ignorantall im going to say is WOW!!! but please oh please do not post such stufff!!! i hope no japanese ever comes to this thread and i apologise on your behalf!!!!!!!!!! Theres a asying which goes if u can't beat them join them, catvh my drift ?About Angola its obvious ure , shucks can't say the word, so, WOW!!! About Saudi and kuwait, if u notice, tha army was protecting saudi too and even tho it was obvious saddam had no capability of attacking saudi y did he launch scuds at oil installations in saudi? because he wanted to hurt the yankees that y david!!!!, WOW!!! The people who remained on the land after 135AD were not non-jews! As late as 1880, less than 1 million people were on that land, it was not until the Jews decided to rebuild the nation that arabs started coming to seek better opportunities. You have not answered any questions, rather u have cleverly employed insults to avoid them. Did a separate nation or culture called palestine ever exist before 1948? WOW!!!! there u go rewriting history and im not allowed to speak up!!!! u see, you perfectly exemplify the mordern day xtian, the whole area was called palestine and the land that is now generally referred to as Israel was inhabited mostly by arabs, fine there were a few jews but an insignificant number. The British and their American allies have so re-writtent he history of the middle east that people like u are not aware of how much injustice is going on, u sit in ur comfortable homes on ur hugh horses and judge, Oh xtians are not killing anyone ?? Dog the truth is they are killing muslims in scores everyday, instaead of a suicide bomber uve got an American G.I in uniform, the muslims kill as many Westerners (or xtians) as they can also. Both sides are EVIL!@!!!but at least the islamists dont pretend like theyre pure and holy |
by the way about the crusades, both sides used religion as a cover up for political intersts and expansionist ambitions, once again both Chrisitians and muslims hid under the blanket of evil to commit dispecable acts The so-called xtian armies consisted of thousands of child soldiers!!! the muslims were just as bad!!!! so tell me, what right does a xtian have in accusing a muslim of wrongdoing\ Im just the unbiased observer who's telling the truth to both parties, but as u know, the truth is bitter! Xtians just cant face the truth. Xtianity in itself is THE TRUTH (at least thats what i believe, and i respect any moslem who believes that islam is the truth) but xtianity as practised by many xtians today is a poor substitute for the truth at best. I really dont know much about islam,, there are so many holes to be picke d easily in its theology that i considered it a waste of my time to study it. however, i have enuff common sense to realise tht any reasonable muslim will interprete the jihad call in spiritual contexts. All it takes for the average xtian to see the same is an open mind and a more xrist like nature! |
@david Forgive me, i really don't want to be rude but ure probably the most ignorant person i have had the chance to banter with. The sad thing is u typify the average IGNORANT modern day xtian. please don't take this personally, its just that what u represent is utterly despicable! You represent a group of people who are meant to be the light of this world but due to laziness, ignorance and pride stink more than the stinkiest scum of the earth Wrong! My analogy fit perfectly, please reason rather than hyperventilate. Perhaps in your haste you forgot what is known as menopause! A woman at 120 CANNOT even have a 60 yr old child not to talk of a 2yr old. Its simple biology! Please can you clearly expantiate on how you think islam and christianity "share the same roots" besides the fact that abraham bore both isaac and ishmael taking into consideration the fact that islam did not come on the scene until the 12th century. If indeed they "share the same roots", would it be reasonable to assume that muslims had been existing long before mohammed? Please explain. This is is so ridiculuos that id rather just ignore your reply. if u can't see that your analogy is faulty,, then tooo bad son This is obvious only to those who read upside down. Do isrealis and arabs have the same culture? Even in your bible, where is it written that the children of ishmeal had the same culture as the jews? Did you forget where the bible expressly forbids jews from marrying their ishmealite cousins?[flash=200,200][/flash] again, your ignorance is astounding. it doesnt take a genius to realise that the isrealites shared a similar culture with other cultures of the middle east and that they are both of similar stock. the point i was trying to prove anyways was that it was clear that most cultures in those days shared a common diregard for women and Paul (NOT XTIANITY) was not exempt from cultural biases which was apparent in his statement about women shutting up in church Let us assume that this argument above makes a shred of sense, on what basis then do today's muslims justify their increasing recourse to violence? Are the isrealites still killing canaanites today? By the way this thread is based on the violence of TODAY'S muslims NOT early muslims. No one is bothered about what Muhammad's cousins did but about those who are ready to blow us up in aircrafts while chanting allah is great. You guys keep missing my point like its rocket science, even if it is , get this once and for all. Muslims do not need to justify their actions because muslims claim that the violence is not commited by muslims!!! how hard can that be!! Terrorists are simply not true muslims! just like the priests and knights who burnt people at the stakes were not true Xtians . Do u need me to repeat myself ??Stop regurgitating islamic propaganda! 99% of the killing taking place today is at the hands of islamic fundamentalists and NOT American soldiers. The death toll would probably have been worse if not for the presence of the US army. Take Somalia for example, America sent in her peacekeeping forces, hypocrites like you cried blue murder and "invasion", now that they have left everyone has kept quiet in the face of increasing lawlessness. There is no america to hang the blame on. When Saddam gassed the kurds in 1983 where were u? When saddam invaded Kuwait where u sleeping? When saddam invaded iran and waged an 8 yr war of attrition were u not aware or does the word "invasion" have a special meaning? When Syria invaded and occupied Lebanon for 25 years where were those who condemned it? You all only seem to wake up when the US and Isreal is involved. This is where u cross the line from being just a harmless ignorant country folk to a humanoid ticking time nuclear bomb! Answer these questions? Who gave Saddam his chemical weapons with which he killed the kurds in the 1st place? Who caused all the trouble in Angola? Did your champion (USA) have people in mind when she resisited Saddam against Kuwait or was it more interesteds in protecting its oil interests? Who is the ONLY country to have used a nuclear weapon ? killing millions of innocent civilians despite having already won a warWho supported Iraq and supplied it with WMD's when Saddam invaded Iran ![]() Please get your facts right before u start to argue with me, ok? [b]What a load of tripe! Christianity is responsible for the war between the Lebanese army and islamic jihadists? Christianity is responsible for the civil war between Hamas and Fatah? Why is it that the problem spots are mainly islamic countries where the alleged religion of peace holds sway? If truly christianity is responsible for the mid east crisis why are christian countries not at war with each other? - Which christian fundamentalists insisted on the state of isreal in 1948? Name them and stop regurgitating unfounded allegations. - Who are the "people of palestine"? If indeed they exist are they arabs or jews? For your information, the word "palestine" is NOT arab but greco-roman and was imposed on the state of Isreal in 135 AD after the romans crushed the last jewish revolt to take back Jerusalem destroyed by Titus army in AD70. - If indeed the "people of palestine" had been living on the land of Isreal for thousands of years why are they not mentioned in the bible or any prior history books? Did any palestinian nation exist with its own distinct language and culture? Where are they? The land you all hypocritically call palestine today has places such as bethlehem, judea, samaria, nazareth e.t.c. Can u boldly claim that thousands of years ago these lands belonged to arabs and not jews? [/b] Ure soooooo dangerous in your ignorance and u don't know it. The Emperor Hadrian displaced the Jews about a hundred years after the death of Christ (christ actually predicted this event in matthew 24 , at least some bible scholars think so) and he was sooo determined to wipe out the memory of the jews that he renamed the whole place PALESTINE!!! the people (non jews) who settled in these areas continued to survive on these lands now renamed palestine for almost 2000 years until the Christian world (championed by overzealous xtians in Britain and America) re-established the state of Israel After the 2nd world war after herding the palestinians into camps without taking them into consioderation whatsoever. At least you agree the muslims are the main source of the darkness in the world today. However the hypocrisy lies at your doorstep LMAO! honestly, ,,, that one cracked me up Yes we agree the slave trade was bad. It seems you are the one misguided and ignorant here. Please read up on the palestinian problem before coming here to expose your lack of knowledge next time. Dog, ure priceless, u agree with me that slave trade was bad, and then all of a sudden I misguided and ignorant ![]() (don't mind me im just teasing, but seriouslyy your ignorance is appalling, sickening and worst of all dangerous. If not it wouild only have been acutely pathetic Against my better judgement i shall grace ur 'analogy' question with a reply int he form of another question Isnt it strange my dear david (following ur strange logic) that when u were 2years old,,,,,, u and ur maybe 100 great granfather had the same ancestors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and therefore had the same roots ![]() ?i cant beleive i answerd that question!!!LMAO man! |
'tho shalt not suffer a witch to live' One can only wonder the number of people who died hearing some 'Xtian' quoting that scripture before being drowned (with a millstone tied to her neck) or burnt at the stake |
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Barry My point is simple enough! u cant claim islam is fundamentally flawed simply because some of its members are prone to violence especially when some members of your own religion have done much worse. simple as ABC, i dont seee what the fuss is all about. the attitude of most Xtians to islam is simply hyprocritical. Im yet to meet a muslim who translates islamic jihad in physical contexts, those who do are simply extrmists and do not fololow the will of Allah!!!!b Simple!!! I can go out and decide to start killing people in the name of Christ tommorow, does that mean im following Christs will Most muslims are convinced |Osama is not a muslim, so whats your point ?You asked if i was desperate? No im not, but you just showed that u lack a sense of humour ans i'll have to keep it in mind that when im discussing with u i have to spell everything out in black and white , for ur sake i'll translate: I said: ok, maybe not millions, maybe a feww hundred thousands, myabe not even a few hundred thousands, mayb tens of thousands, does it matter?? what that means in simple (notice the word simple, lol) english is: We will acheive nothing by counting noses. The important thing is a huge amount of people were killed in the name of Christ Ps: by thje way 'counting noses' does not literally translate to counting noses; it means counting individuals If xtians refuse to revenge-murder any1, then theyre potraying themselves as good xtians, if they choose to, then they are NOT xtians (at least technically) they only profess to be xtians. if a muslim murders any xtian in the name of jihad, then he is NOT a true muslim (at least technically) simple as ABC!!! |
ok, maybe not millions, maybe a feww hundred thousands, myabe not even a few hundred thousands, mayb tens of thousands, does it matter ?? if u know your history u'll be aware that burning at the stake was quite a commmon event. Ask the Lollards (who were xtians too), ask the 'witches' and other unfortunate souls how many they were, Even Galilio the scientist was forced to recant at the stakes (all he did wrong was state that the earth was not the centre of the universe, in those days it suited the catholic church to teach that the earth was the centre of the universe)Some questions should not even be asked!!! i hope ure aware that asking funny questions about the holocaust can be regarded as a crime in the West these days, Dont even bother to insinuate that chrisitians have not been barbaric in the past, barry, dont EVEN DARE TO GO THERE. That'll be tantamount to rewriting history. i dont need to give u specifics and evidence. information is easy to get these days, and im sure ure just feigning ignoirance to suit ur purpose which i find very amusing Im a Xtian myself and i believe in the truth as told by the Bible,,, but when i pick holes in another persons religiona nd crticise i'll make sure my religion is not guilty of the same sin. Maybe i'll structure a more detailed respoonse for ur benefit later (im at work rite now) but i hope u catch my general drift Like the Wise Man said " why dont u pick out the log of wood in your eyes first, then u'll be able to see clearly enough to pick the speck of dust in your brothers eyes" Chrisitians are especiallythis sin (Especially AMERICAN EVANGELISTS) who are the most hypocritical set of himan beings i ever saw! Anyways i'll structure up a detailed response stating exactly what my beef for most mordern xtians is. Islamist fundamentalists are craz, agreed! but so are many Xtians! |
Barry youre the one making inferences from my statements to suit your purpose, I assumed (wrongly it s obvious now) that by saying the islamists followed in the footseps of xtians it was obvious that i was not referringdirectly to the crusades but to Christian violence in general. Youre the one who has his history muddled up! Youre not even aware of the happenings of the past of your own religion |
@ barry I dont have to go into specifics to verify my 'wild statements and comedy' if u're not aware of the truth in these statements, why are we exchanging comments in the first place? The spanish inquisition is just one example of the millions of despicable acts commited by xtians in God's name. The ilamist fundamentalists are just following in the xtian brothers footsteps. Both xtians and muslims were involved in acts of butchery during the crusades, and even though islam has had a very violent past, it has been surpassed in savagery only by xtianity. Christian apologists view these facts and shrug and say these acts where not inspired by God!! Morden Islamic scholars look at terrorists and claim that they re not insired by Allah!!!\ You tell me what the difference between Christians and muslims then!!!!!! I repeat Barry,,, i do not need to give you specific examples of Xtian savagery in history, its like you asking me to prove that the holocaust happend!! Many xtians do not realise how similar their religion is to islam. Both religions share roots, and stem from the same culture, therefore many teachinfg which have cultural roots found their way into both religions. For example if i do not know much about xtianity will it be strange for mwe to misundertsand Christ's statement 'the kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violent taketh by force'? I dont claim to know much about Islam (I actually know nothing!) but ive spoken to many semmingly rational muslims who assure me that ther jihad theory is only relevant in spiritual contexts. Also put it in mind that Mohahmed had to be violent to survive in his days just like the Isrealites had to be violent in other to propagate their culture, way of life and religion. I dont support terrorists and I'm not a muslim; but christians should learn to be a lot more concerned about the sensitivities of some muslims who just want to worship their Allah in peace. For every act of violence carried out by some muslim fundamentalist, there exists about a thousand acts of barbarism carried out in the name of God by some middle age Knight in Europe to someone labelled a Jew, pagan, muslim or savage, the truth cannot be denied by simply refusing to acknowledge it, |
how do u regulate entry? do u pay? how do u identify urself? do u register? |
Oh barry the good Lord revealed that women should SHUT UP IN CHURCHES and not speak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Barry ure way way too smart to actually believe that. That staement was borne out of Paul's personal predjudices against women. I really neednt argue with you Barry if you do not know that a horrendous, appalling and awe-inspiring number of people were burnt at the stake for religious reasons in the middle ages,. it just shows that ure ignorant (pardon me , couldnt find a less harsh word). It was aginst the law in those days to be anything but a Xtian in the West. Even Xtians who had opposing or contradicitry view to the church were forced to retract their blasphemous statements or burnt at the stake. Ever heard of the spanish inquisiton ?Do u think they were playing games?? Those people killed in the name of the Lord and they were the most bloodthirsty set of vermins u ever saw. the crusades!!! ? Do u know how many millions were sensellesly butchered in the name of saving the holy land from the infidels (i.e Islamists, {which they failed to do, the muslims finally took control of the holy land}actually the muslims also butchered just as many xtians as well), and my friend Barry says im making wild statements !!!(laughs in chinese and shakes his head despondently) |
@ topic Let me just state once and for all that i find the attitude of many xtians appalling and unxtianlike and im actually vewry dissponted. Many xtians go out of their way to ridicule adherents of other religions without paying attention to the faults of their own religion (if you cna call them faults, ) My personal belief (notice the word, personal) is that Islamic theology is poorly developed (at least in comaprision to xtianity0 and so it is easy to pick holes in it. The islamic apparent disregard for women was common to middle Easterners in those days and extended to the early Xtians. (if u dont believe me, try and re-read Paul's exhortation to women to cover their hair and shut up in church. It;s obvious that Paul had so high a regard for women tht he told them all to shut up in church. Women should be seen not heard!!!! Thats respect alright, ! |
Dear Barry, Im not mixing up facts. Except u want to deny the facts. Christians in the name of christianity have killed more people than adherents of any other religion. Heretics have been burnt at the stake in their millions; witchhunting was the favourite pastime of christians in the middle ages. Political power was acutely abused by the church and was used to control, intimidate and control the society. It is true! dear Barry!!! face the facts!!!!!! i didnt write history, Now whether these gruesome acts by the church and christians in Europe where inspired by God or the devil is another argument for another post but the moral of the story is how are we different from the muslims. The average muslim will argue tht the Osama's of this world are inspired of the devil and not of Allah! dont get me wrong i actually beleive that fundamentalists are a pain in the neck and i also realise that islam seems to be prone to violence breeding; but most religions (including islam) do not directly preach violence and we should not be unfair to muslims in our horror, shock, unbeleif and grief at what some of the proponents of their faith have done or intend to do |
@ barry Im just stating facts. im not making any conclusions. Xtians in the name of xtianity have killed more people and shed more blood than ANY other religion in the world. and dont go 'Xtianity doesnt preach violence' line, cos most religions (including Islam) does not preach violence (at least directly), The old testament is full of gory details of killings of gentile men women and children and xtians extrapolated these killings to their own lifetimes. All im saying is b4 u accuse Islam of being bloodthirsty (it actually is) consider the bloodthirstiness of at least some people who professed to be membersof ur religion in the past. MAN! the catholic church alone has the blood of millions and millions and millions of men, women and children on its hands which will never wash off; protestants have been almost as bad! |
because women are sexy and will stop me from concentrating on my prayers. Wish xtians could adopt the same principle! @barikade to be fair to oyb! heresy was a capital offence in those days, a man who had opinions differing from that of the church risked his life. To be fair to the muslims, we xtians go on and on about how violent the muslims are (im not saying their not a bunch of bloodthirsty personalitites) but have u ever considered the amount of bloodshed that xtianity has shed in the past? Christianity is the singyular most violent religion in the history of mankind! if u dont believe me just go through ur history books, |
sure. Paul was speaking in spiritual contexts, |
I think the most important part of the passage about melchizedek is"he was priest of the most high God" The passage quoted from Paul is interpreted often out of context. Paul was refering to melchizedek's PRIESTHOOD!!! not he man melchizedek, i.e He was 1st born out of all the priests, and that is why his order lasts 4ever. he had no spiritual father or family which made him really very unique! He was just a guy like u & i although a very unique one |
its possible tht the aborigines were of the tribe no referred to as the igbos. but verifying the fact is difficult, which makes it neither here nor there |
i so totally agree with d-corleone |
@ the thick head that started this thread im not a saucekid fan, i think he's just an average rapper, but ur line of reasoning was abysmal! if R.kelly can tell me the meaning of toyointoyointoiyontoiyon, then i'll agree tht 9ja music doesnt make sense |
women are just cheap thingy's. y should i be financially responsible 4 u? na me born u? and when we hav sex na only me dey get orgasm? so y should females say men demand 4 sex. e no dey sweet u too? if u want me to pay u for 'services renderd' then be ready to jump when i say boo and bend over whenecer i want it, or else just learn to pay ur own bills |
i wonder if people realise that U.S.A actualy has the highest rate of armed robbery in the world. i.e youre more likely to get robbed in the u.s than 9ja! Lagos is dirty, yes but its not as bad as its potryaed in the media, im sure the neighbourhood the times writer live s in the u.s is not nicer than mine. |
timi has an extraordinary voice. However, omawumi is more versatile in her performance, i think omawumi will make a better idol. biggups to timi though |
@MANP LMAO!!!!!!! ive laffed so much it hurts! drugs are bad 4 u man!!!!! |
Naija hiphop is hiphop with a 9jerian flavour, and bc it has a distinct flavour it needs to be differentiated from other forms of hiphop hence the term 9jahiphop. i fail to see what the big deal is. hiphop with an american flavour is americanhiphop but since it originated from there in the 1st place, its just calld hiphop. |
u nairaland people sef u like wahala, if muslims want to fac eeast how your own be ![]() obvioulsy the original muslims prayed facing their east and the practise spread as habit, y do xtians tend to clasp their hands or close their eyes when they pray it just tradition!!! y do we celebrate xmas at 25th dec tradition!!! y do women cover their heads in most churches, tradition!!! so y do muslims face east tradiition!! |
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, anyhow since it seems like u can't handle the truth i'll desist from reminding u of your ignorance. 
They were all Middle easterners (if such a word exists) they were all inhabitants of the fertile crescent' and so they imbibed customs from each other, i refuse to discuss this point further