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Carl lewis has his place in history. Yes, history! I mean yesteryears! Far gone. If he desires d glory days again, he should put his athletic shoe back on and get on d track, wit his gray hair and tired legs. Wait o, dat guy still get teeth? Enjoy on bolt!

Carl lewis...

Sweetnecta: @SimplySEA: how you think the below is to what i wrote above is mind bugling.


my point is dicey? I was making a case for "Now you are permitted to fight back". Think about that before you respond. I used preemptive strike to say that "Permission to fight back those who are fighting you" is superior and normal, even as the USA of George Bush thought preemptive strike was quite adequate in the case of Iraq. Imagine if USA simply fought back and did not engage in preemptive strike? Which of the two conditions would truly justified the position of USA without arm strong tactics of UN and the rest of the world?

lets talk about Afghanistan which i am sure you will say was not a preemptive strike like what happened in Iraq, but was of higher moral quality stand because we can loosely say that since Bin Laden was their guest and they did not release him, Afghanistan did the 911 attack. However, while USA had the moral right and permission after 911 to strike back those that struck her. What she did was struck harder and even continue to strike after it was obvious that it has been worse than a total beat down. Islam cautions muslims that when they fight back those who have been fighting them, when those people lay down their hostility, muslims should stop right there because there is no reason to fight anyone who is not continuing to fight you because he has stopped his aggression.

In two situation Islam tell the muslims to take the best moral position. Not turn the other cheek or preemptive strike but fight back those who fight you, until they lay down their hostility against the muslims. America is morally correct to fight back, except no moral justification for neither over beating in Afghanistan nor the preemptive strike in Iraq.

There is no moral excellence in turning the other cheek because you may lose your life when the second cheek is struck. You will look like a person who does not care for his life if you allow people to abuse you, which is what turning the other cheek is.

Hey lady, u've spoken very well! And is quite obvious d side u're on! It may interest u to know dat i'm not on any side. I want d side of peace. Talkin about war and retaliative strikes don't really go down well wit me! My fren, wat'll happen "if an eye for an eye should prevail...? Do u not tink d whole world will go blind? Want to tell me u've never wronged someone before intentionally or not? If we preach dis kind of msg, what will happen to d world "forgiveness"?
Definitely no matter d msg one follows, there's a limit to wat one can bear. Besides, A "slap" is an instant action. D example u imported is quite continuous - raping and watchin. If i can stop it, i would. Jesus, in one of his home cities, was bein ill treated and even stoned, he didn't jus stayed there cos he intend to turn d other cheek, he said some few nice words and walked away.
"....turnin d other cheek.." is quite proverbial. D true meanin as explained by my spiritual leader is to walk away, don't retaliate. In other words, forgive! Doesn't mean u can't have him stopped while he's at it. Or would u allow yr husband go over to d rap*ist house to ra.pe his own wife in retaliation?
i want peace. My best fren is muslim. Now we don't trust eachother anymore.

I like yr arguments.

Sweetnecta: @Prof Kenny: Prof Kenny, i do hope you know that the human has a natural instinct to self preservation and survival? No one can endure pain except that he reaches a breaking point that he show signs that he can not endure it any further. He therefore will go into survival mode to prevent any further piling up of about by either running away, fighting back or simply avoid more pain as it were before.

if I are now permitted to do something now, people of insight will think before now you were not permitted, even though it wa necessary that you do so or not necessary yet to do so. either way, if it was fighting those who have been fighting you, how do you see your new condition being permitted to fight back as being contradiction to you being peaceful by nature or that suddenly you are now a violent person?

Those who advocate turning the other cheek do not often observe it especially when they perceive the pain that will come will dishonor them. They resort to preemptive strike before any strike or strike harder that what they received or dont take the strike without showing that it came with overwhelming pain that disorient them, so much so that you wonder why pretend to be the another cheek turner when you will disrespect everyone, including the One Who did not inflict pain on you.

I see fighting those who fight you are the most humane of all strategies that can be proposed in peace or war time, even if you are a giant or weakling.

yr point is quite daisy! If i'd go by d moral of yr msg, i'd not jus strike, i'll do so with all intent and purpose and make it as hard as possible, before my enemy strike! Not very good a msg to preach at dis times! May not be yr intention, but i tell u, d picture is all over yr msg!

makizee: Well Mr Man, The Prophet was a man who faced Challenges, defending and protecting his Followers was one of them, which is why he was involved in a war, Wars are started and ended by Men, so being involved in Conflict doesn't make him less perfect(loosing his teeth is inconsequential but was meant to highlight personal injuries he sustained while being involved in a conflict, like any regular being would),Sometimes the way some people reason(especially on online Forums) are part of reasons why Nigeria is backward

My fren, i didn't mean to sound sarcastic and i certainly don't now, but don't u tink d word perfect is too marque a word to use for a warrior? Unless u want to tell me he's somewhat supernatural, i really don't see how a warrior can lead over series of war without any flaw! If i remember very well, he died at war! Is dis death at war part of claims to his perfection? I stand to be corrected anyway.
i really don't kno much about d prophet or his teachings, but i respect him alot. He's got followers spanning d earth. These people must hav seen somethin in him and his teachings worth believin and following, dat's y i respect him! But i hate d unnecessary fanatism displayed by many religous followers, Both christians and muslims. For heaven sake, Religion is not a football club.

Wow! D SINGLE MOST PERFECT MAN in history losin his TEETH in a "WAR"? How's that for PERFECTION? Where's my dictionary again....! I've probably lost d meanin of perfection!

Jus saw in a thread elsewhere dat those guys hav recently got war helicopters...! I don shout do me. I came here cos i tot i'd find it real here or somethin close! God help us all.... They are preparin real hard!

Nice piece of advice, poster! I've saved d page already!

Song keeps improving season after season. Our mikel? I jus don't kno! But i'm certain about one thing,"i can put my money on mikel not scorin a goal dis season". On d pitch, he looks pathetic!

watch~tower:
Im not a fan of oyedepo and sure will never be. He gives me more reasons, with each passing day, to dislike him, and all y'all bleepers going to attack me becos of this post should be prepared to rot in hell because not a single one of u knows a thing about the bible and Christianity. Honestly, i don't understand why some of u still worship ur men of God, instead of the real GOD!

Accordin to d book of proverbs, the man who believes he knos enough actually doesn't kno...... Hey i'm neutral here! But i don't tink i'd neglect anybody in need cos of religion! I give alms mainly to muslims brothers..... Hav 2good frenz who're muslims! I mean very good frenz.

I wonder if such people no get frenz wey go yab, laugh them lik hell! I imagined myself in such shame...... I for pack from my area cos of my frenz! Tinkin of d Rasta man from calabar now and i'm smilin my face away! Lol....
But more seriously, aspirant pls tink of d shame on yr family before u go ok! I even hear rastaman has a wife.... Hahahaha...

I wonder if such people no get frenz wey go yab, laugh them lik hell! I imagined myself in such shame...... I for pack from my area cos of my frenz! Tinkin of d Rasta man from calabar now and i'm smilin my face away! Lol....
But more seriously, aspirant pls tink of d shame on yr family before u go ok! I hear rastaman even hav a wife.... Hahahaha...

Question for Rosisky. I wish u don't ever retire from football. Yr flair and skills reminds me of zinedine zidan. And only a little short of our own jay jay okocha! Lol...! How long do u tink u can hang around and bless us wit those waist breakin turns and sleek touches on d pitch? O sorry NL. I actually tot i was talkin to d guy already! Permit me to ask dis question. Is there any attackin midfielder better dan dis guy? If yes, who? Obviously no midfielder de man u, and lampard is totally out of it!

Wat.....! Enough azonto..... Lol! Good tinkin op. Make it nice! At least, wit the idea of a party in everyone's mind, we go hardly see insults here. LET THE PARTY BEGIN.....! Azonto! Azonto!! Azonto!!!

Na where man de work, na there him de chop! On the other hand, na where woman de chop, na there she de work o! U don chop, stand up go work my Fren! Go free my guy wetin de i beg, make u answer yr real name!

Na where man de work, na there him de chop! On the other hand, na where woman de chop, na there she de work o! U don chop, my fren, go work jor! Go free my guy wetin de i beg, make u answer yr real name!

Ha...... Wat a relief! Wisdom atlast in NL. Where hav people been? Nice to meet u all!
@ miss spicy. I must say dis. Yr use of English is jus too clean 4a third class grad. It Speaks volumes for other non academic factors dat affect student's performance in our academic system! I kno many 2.1 grads wit very poor use of English, both in writin as well as speakin.
@mr Ajans, u're truly an inspiration!

Dis knockouts went off last night! For God's sake, we should be havin confirmation and details by now! All wat i'm readin is stil speculation. Somebody pls! We need details!
Attack on Corper's lodge'd be terrible!

He wanted to join them. He join finish see d kine song e fit do! Na now i de see d impact of d don called jazzy in his songs! Oyato, rubbish!

If u really need help, got dis 4u. Jus remember u probably wouldn't hav been in his class if he hadn't com to yr rescue! He gave u d class u claim. U'd probably be an illiterate pr*stitute now ( I took dat guess from yr supposed mode of payment). But he changed dat name to a "graduate". Pay him back dat way, i tell u d truth, he won't wait for God's judgement or nemesis.....! For yr own sake, don't try it.

No be my guy fault jor! He only lived by d f**k and died by d f**k .....! I only wonder wetin he go tell Baba God, when him reach heaven without pant...!

Imagin wat Mohammed and Jesus Christ would do after seein wat u people do here always!
I'm sure they'd smile, nod their head and say to themselves "yes, my followers are trully fighting for me"! Like they really need u to fight for them! WAKE UP PEOPLE! If they were here would they approve of wat u're doin? Make una grow up i beg!