CrownLands: He is learning how the legal system works in 9ja. If you no get money or influence, No plead guilty ooh!
When I heard bobrisky pleaded guilty I was shocked. How can U plead guilty in front of a Nigerian judge- it's like playing russian roulette with your destiny. Nigerian judges are very mean and do not understand mercy. The only language they understand is money and influence. Don't ever plead guilty in a Nigerian court except U are privileged with either money or influence. Play the long game of adjournment by pleading not guilty. Eventually police will get tired of your case and likely throw away your file or better still just settle them and case close.
Ohyoudidnt: The beauty of variation in opinion. In the end everyone will give account of his or her own self
Cut the cap bro Islam came from Saudi arabia, they gave u the Qur'an. Its the spiritual seat of the islamic faith. If the scholars from Saudi arabia are saying adult breastfeeding is valid, U should listen. There must be a reason they said so.
Ohyoudidnt: The Qur'an is the literal word of Allah as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an consists of 114 chapters, and each chapter is considered a complete and perfect revelation from Allah. Any additional prayers or supplications outside of the Qur'an are not considered part of the Qur'an itself.
If you are referring to the additional prayers or supplications that may have been compiled by Ubayy ibn Ka'b (may Allah be pleased with him), it is important to note that these are not part of the Qur'an. Ubayy ibn Ka'b was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) known for his expertise in reciting and understanding the Qur'an. He was among the scribes of the revelation and had a deep knowledge of the Qur'an.
Ubayy ibn Ka'b may have compiled additional prayers or supplications, these are not considered part of the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an is distinct and separate from any other compilations or writings.
The mus-haf of Ubay b. Ka'b (ra), included two additional chapters and one additional ayah. The first one is entitled "Al-Khal'" or "The Separation" and translates as:
O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we do not disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you.
The second one, "Al-Hafd" or "The Haste" translates as
O Allah, we worship You and to You we pray and prostrate and to You we run and hasten to serve You. We hope for Your mercy and we fear Your punishment. Your punishment will certainly reach the disbelievers.
The forms for these two pieces are clearly like the prayers in du'a qunut that have been narrated from the Prophet pbuh (in fact, parts of the above are verbatim in known adhkar).
Don't I get that you are failing in a pathetic attempt to lie against Islam. Has the one I have desisted from responding to not shared that in Sunan an-Nasa'i 3324 It was narrated that 'Urwah said: "The rest of the wives of the Prophet refused for anyone to enter upon them on the basis of that type of breast-feeding, meaning breast-feeding of an adult. They said to 'Aishah: 'By Allah, we think that what the Messenger of Allah told Sahlah bint Suhail to do was a concession which was granted by the Messenger of Allahonly with regard to breast-feeding Salim. By Allah, no one will enter upon us, nor see us on the basis of this type of breast-feeding.'"
Showing that you know the truth that the exception to breast feed Salim beyond the toddler years was just in his case and not a generality but just make mischief for fun.
Even in the 21st century some of your scholars are advocating for adult breastfeeding. Dey play...
Ohyoudidnt: The Qur'an is the literal word of Allah as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an consists of 114 chapters, and each chapter is considered a complete and perfect revelation from Allah. Any additional prayers or supplications outside of the Qur'an are not considered part of the Qur'an itself.
If you are referring to the additional prayers or supplications that may have been compiled by Ubayy ibn Ka'b (may Allah be pleased with him), it is important to note that these are not part of the Qur'an. Ubayy ibn Ka'b was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) known for his expertise in reciting and understanding the Qur'an. He was among the scribes of the revelation and had a deep knowledge of the Qur'an.
Ubayy ibn Ka'b may have compiled additional prayers or supplications, these are not considered part of the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an is distinct and separate from any other compilations or writings.
The mus-haf of Ubay b. Ka'b (ra), included two additional chapters and one additional ayah. The first one is entitled "Al-Khal'" or "The Separation" and translates as:
O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we do not disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you.
The second one, "Al-Hafd" or "The Haste" translates as
O Allah, we worship You and to You we pray and prostrate and to You we run and hasten to serve You. We hope for Your mercy and we fear Your punishment. Your punishment will certainly reach the disbelievers.
The forms for these two pieces are clearly like the prayers in du'a qunut that have been narrated from the Prophet pbuh (in fact, parts of the above are verbatim in known adhkar).
Don't I get that you are failing in a pathetic attempt to lie against Islam. Has the one I have desisted from responding to not shared that in Sunan an-Nasa'i 3324 It was narrated that 'Urwah said: "The rest of the wives of the Prophet refused for anyone to enter upon them on the basis of that type of breast-feeding, meaning breast-feeding of an adult. They said to 'Aishah: 'By Allah, we think that what the Messenger of Allah told Sahlah bint Suhail to do was a concession which was granted by the Messenger of Allahonly with regard to breast-feeding Salim. By Allah, no one will enter upon us, nor see us on the basis of this type of breast-feeding.'"
Showing that you know the truth that the exception to breast feed Salim beyond the toddler years was just in his case and not a generality but just make mischief for fun.
So Ubay the best reciters didn't know what's in the Qur'an and what's makes prayer. Abi no be him talk this one....
Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’
What about ibn masud another best of the reciters recommended by Muhammed... I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah (saw) seventy surahs when Zaid was still a childish youth - must I now forsake what I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah?”
So these reciters who Muhammad praised as the best of reciters didn't know their left from their right...yet Muhammad recommended them...
See as Una throw Muhammad under the bus in a bid to validate a forged quran.
As for the adult breastfeeding brouhaha, I will show up to three adults that were breastfed in your hadiths and islamic literature all recommended by Muhammed apart from the slave boy.
Genesis 16.9 9 Then the angel of the LORD told Hagar, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”
11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:
“You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
13 Hagar gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seennthe One who sees me.” 14 That is why the well was called Beer Lahai Roi[d]; it is still there, between Kadesh and Bered.
Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the (shikenah) glory of the Lord filled the house.
2 And the priests could not enter into the house of the Lord, because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord's house.
3 And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the Lord, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever.
AbuTwins: No! Cos when it is Jesus someone bow to you'll say it is worship!
My friend, the bible said Jesus was worshipped not bow to or people prostrated to him. PEOPLE WORSHIPPED JESUS AND JESUS NEVER REJECTED WORSHIP.
Matthew 28:9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him.
Matthew 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
Matthew 2:11 And going into the house, they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.
Luke 24.52 And the disciples worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy.
The bible never mentioned other prophets were worshipped or receive worship. None. You are the one forcing prostrate/bow to mean worship. The bible makes it clear Thou shall only worship the LORD your God.
To prove to you that Jesus was worshipped as God in the new testament, when John fell on his face to worship the Angel, he told John never to worship him but to worship only God. Revelation 22 8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”
Unless U can provide verses where prophets were worshipped, your case is dead.
Ohyoudidnt: Ubai Ibn Ka'b indeed had his own collection of Quranic material. Early Islamic sources indicate that there were slight variations in the readings and arrangements of the Quranic text among some of the companions, reflecting a diversity of transmission during the early period of Islam before the standardization process.
Ubai Ibn Ka'b was known for his deep knowledge of the Qur'an and was one of the few individuals whom the Prophet pbuh specifically mentioned as being excellent in Quranic recitation. His compilation included a few additional phrases and different wordings, which are considered part of the early textual history of the Quranic text.
Zaid Ibn Thabit was chosen by Caliph Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) to lead a committee to compile an official, standardized mushaf (written copy of the Quran) to preserve the integrity of the Quran and ensure its uniformity across the rapidly expanding Muslim world. This standardized mushaf omitted the variants and personalized annotations from individual companions codices, focusing on the Quranic text that was agreed upon by consensus to be recited by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
These early codices did not represent different Qurans but rather different methods of transmission and teaching within the scope of what was allowed in Quranic recitation and memorization practice. The Uthmanic codex reflects the community consensus and is the basis for the Quran used throughout the Islamic world today.
That's a lie...Ubay's Qur'an had 2 extra surah not in Zaid's codex. 2 whole surah cannot be slight difference my friend.
And why would they compile a committee of reciters that would standardize the Qur'an yet the 2 best reciters approved by Muhammad were not included.
AbuTwins: Catholics do many rituals which I can ascribe to you too!
Are those thing found in your scripture? Be sensible for once!
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If I slap U...how can U compare different denominational doctrines to the authority of islam in Nigeria that all muslims in the country submits.
Who tells U when to start your Ramadan fast and when to end it. No be dem royalty for north dey tell U to begin fast after they approve the sighting of the moon? And if they don't tell U to stop fasting, U must continue. Now U here denying their authority over u because U are embarrassed by their action. He be like say U never chop this evening na why U dey yarn nonsense.
AbuTwin don run. Him meet challenge wey pass am, him run. He will not allow some nairalander Christians to confuse his belief.
His Muslim colleague here already admitted Jesus has a divine nature. AbuTwin don't worry, so long as U engage us here, we will open your eyes and U will see the truth.
If I show U the verse where shikenah Glory was worshipped by Israelites and where the Angel of the LORD is called God... Will U accept the trinity is from the bible. I'm not saying U should believe it but will U accept the trinity is from the scriptures?
AbuTwins: Yes you are worshipping them! It is the same prostration we bow to Allah! It is the same you accuse us of!
You don't call someone a liar till you are sure of your position!
The texts of the Sunnah and the consensus of the ummah indicate that it is prohibited to prostrate to anyone other than Allah according to the law brought by our Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), whether by way of greeting or worship, as the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade Mu‘aadh ibn Jabal to prostrate to him when he came from Syrian and prostrated to him by way of greeting.
So whether some Muslims do it or not it still remains forbidden!
The Question still stands! So I ask you again what is worship?
Why should I care what U say... Your emirs bow before another royalty. Your islamic scholars bow b4 the emir... Yet one Abu twins is here telling me it's haram. Why should I believe U?
Sha don't come and greet my parents without prostating because na there fight go start.
All characters in the bible who prostrated did so as a sign of respect and not worship.
Worship is only for God and no one else. It has nothing to do with prostration. Respect is extended to humans and can be done based on cultural values and norm.
But when Muslims bow/prostrate before a stone what exactly are U doing?
AbuTwins: When we bow to stone as a direct order from Allah you call us idolators! A stone is none living but Allah commanded us to do so! You bow to your parents who are living unlike a non-living stone!
I don't bow or Prostrate to humans as this is against the teachings of Allah! All my bowing and prostration are for Allah
So I ask you again what is worship?
Answer my question my friend...
As a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them?
because I just don't understand all those verses U brought here. Confusing respect to worshipping.
When U bow before a stone, who are U worshipping? Except U telling me U bow to the stone as a sign of respect to the stone!!!
Your claim U bow to no one but Allah is a lie. See your emir bowing to another human being. And U dare not go b4 your emir and not bow. Oniro...
AbuTwins: Which of your Gods was present in the temple?
The three or Just one?
The Spirit, the man or the dove?
Daniel bowed in the direction of the temple, why?
The temple is filled with the shikenah glory- the spirit of God with his glory. Do U now see why we Christians worship the Holy spirit? Its in the old testament?
AbuTwins: Just tell us you have problem with Muslims! More Pagan Practices in the Bible!
Genesis 19:1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. Lot worshipped Angels!
Exodus 18:7 So Moses went out to meet his father-in-law and bowed down and kissed him. They greeted each other and then went into the tent. Moses worshiped his in law and kissed him! Na same Kiss o!
Genesis 23:7 Then Abraham rose and bowed down before the people of the land, the Hittites. Abraham dey worship humans!
Genesis 33:3 Then Jacob went on ahead. As he approached his brother, he bowed to the ground seven times before him. Jacob worshiped his brother!
Genesis 42:6 Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the person who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph’s brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground. Joseph's family worshipped him!
Matthew 18:26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ Is this worship too?
1 Kings 1:23 And the king was told, “Nathan the prophet is here.” So he went before the king and bowed with his face to the ground. Is this worship too?
2 Samuel 14:22 Joab fell with his face to the ground to pay him honor, and he blessed the king. Joab said, “Today your servant knows that he has found favor in your eyes, my lord the king, because the king has granted his servant’s request.” Is this worship too?
1 Samuel 24:8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, “My lord the king!” When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. David worshipped Saul!
1 Kings 1:53 Then King Solomon sent men, and they brought him down from the altar. And Adonijah came and bowed down to King Solomon, and Solomon said, “Go to your home.” Adonijah worshipped Solomon too!
So I ask you again what is worship? If bowing, Kneeling and putting the face to the ground is worship then all the above are pagans!
So as a Yoruba man, when I bow down b4 my parents, am I worshipping them? because I just don't understand all these verses U brought here. Confusing respect to worshipping.
When U bow before a stone, who are U worshipping? Except U telling me U bow to the stone as a sign of respect to the stone!!!
AbuTwins: Moses, David, Daniel, Solomon etc are pagan in your Bible!
All of them were praying towards a temple which is of course made of stone too! Why can't they pray to God directly? Why didn't God rebuke them?
That should be for you! Your scripture is continuously changed dubiously by bible interpreters! The Originals manuscript of your Bible is lost! The copies of copies available does not contain any core Trinity concept nor does it mentions the three Gods in trinity as coequal or Coeternal!
Let us continue to copy Daniel, Solomon and David to bow like them! They are Muslims too!
Continue to delulu yourself. God was present in the temple when Solomon bow down to the temple. God dwells in the temple physically, he was in the tabernacle of the temple. David and Daniel never bowed to a temple. Read your bible well.
AbuTwins: Then quote one verse where this is proven from the Qur'an?
I have quoted people from the Bible worshipping temples!
Mr Man, God hates associating him with stones. I already quote the verse and will do so again.
Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God. Lev 26.1
God clearly says DO NOT BOW DOWN BEFORE A STONE, IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER YOU WORSHIP THE STONE OR NOT, IT'S IRRELEVANT, DO NOT DO IT. GOD HATES IT. And never set up sacred stone for worship, for the Lord your God hates them. Deuteronomy 16.22
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE MUSLIMS PRACTICE WHAT GOD CLEARLY HATES YET WANTS US TO BELIEVE THEY WORSHIP THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE.
MUHAMMED WHO NEVER READ THE BIBLE TOLD U GUYS TO BOW BEFORE A STONE WHICH IS A SIN AND DISOBEDIENCE TO THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD.
NOW THAT U MUSLIMS HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND NOW KNOW BOWING BEFORE A STONE IS A SIN. WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE TO CONTINUE THE PAGAN PRACTICE.
Abu twins know this well....bowing b4 a stone can never come from God. Simple.
Even here in UK, the average tuition fee for private primary school is 10-15k. No where near the 419 the 42 thousand pounds they want to charge.
If it's secondary school now, I fit understand because private high school is all about networking and securing your future. It also allows U enter prestigious university easily. But primary school...taaaaa
AbuTwins: So who wrote this liar? Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else! Psalm 138:1-2
Majority of the Muslims have never been to the Kaaba. They bow towards its direction. Why do you have to keep telling lies and misrepresenting facts?
Bowing towards: When you bow towards someone or something, it means you are directing your bow in their general direction. It can be a gesture of respect, acknowledgement, or reverence. Bowing towards signifies the act of physically orienting yourself in the direction of the person or object you are bowing towards.
Bowing to: On the other hand, when you bow to someone, it implies a more specific action of showing deference or submission to that person. Bowing to someone indicates that you are acknowledging their authority, status, or superiority. It is a gesture of respect and humility, often used in formal or ceremonial contexts.
What is worship? How do we worship the Kaaba? How is kissing worship in Christianity? When Jesus put his face to the ground who was he worshipping?
Abu come here and tell us who is the pagan between these two worshippers. Both surround stone and bow down to it. But hypocrite Abu is going to tell his who is the pagan.
U guys better sit down and have a retrospection on what U worship. Shouting one God up and down will not help U. If U want to bow down to a stone, U don't need to travel to Mecca to do that. There are lots of sacred stones here in Africa.
AbuTwins: The more reason we say you guys are ignorant! The Kaaba remains a stone Allah attributed to Himself and the enlightened Christian believed the explanation.
This is your David bowing towards the Holy temple! Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2
This is your Solomon! 1 Kings 8:29 May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.
This is David again! Psalm 5:7 But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.
This is David again! Psalm 28:2 Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.
And Daniel got on his kneels and prayed! Daniel 6:10 Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.
Ignorant hypocrites and liars! Who told you we worship the stone from our texts?
Stop lying. U guys bow down to a stone. U associate a stone with God, a practice he hates.
How this is not idolatry is simply beyond me. Muhammad did a strong one on u Muslims. Very strong one.
Hamzaay: That is why you take any shit thrown to u because u refuse to learn
Who and who throws shit at Christians.... The only people who throw shits are Christians are Muslims who seem trigger happy to murder Christians because an atheist drew a cartoon of Muhammed.
Ohyoudidnt: Did Ibn Masood have any complains about the compilation at Abu Bakr's request?
Lousy talk about number of breastfeeding and adults or and child are baseless. Quran 2:233 mentions 2 years not number and is for the infant baby to young toddler. All other talk is rooted in mischief so get a rest or study critically the reasons for the council's of Nicea and all excesses therein
Yes ibn Masood complained. I already did an article on it ...read
Hamzaay: 2025 a new Bible is coming out. And u want to compare ur modified books to the Quran?
Just like new translation of Qur'an will come out in 2025. Focus on the topic.
Why did Ubay and ibn mosood reject the Qur'an compiled by Zaid. Why did Abu bakir choose to ignore the best of reciters approved by Prophet Muhammad for the job of compilation of the Qur'an.
TenQ: What was wrong with the Quran of Quran of Abu Bakr given to Hafsa to warrant editing by Zaid Zaid bin Thabit the second time? Let it be known that four men from the Ansars memorised (collected) the complete Quran during the lifetime of Mohammed and taught others Sahih al-Bukhari 3758 Narrated Masruq: `Abdullah (bin Mas`ud) was mentioned before `Abdullah bin `Amr. The latter said, "That is a man I continue to love because I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying, ' Learn the recitation of the Qur'an from (any of these) four persons:`Abdullah bin Masud,Salim the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa,Ubai bin Ka`b, and Mu`adh bin Jabal." I do not remember whether he mentioned Ubai first or Mu`adh.
The Quran of Abubakar and Hafsa 1. The fear of permanently losing verses due to muslims fighting wars is said to have motivated the initial collection of the Qur'an under Caliph Abu Bakr. Sahih al-Bukhari 4986 Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr As-Siddiq sent for me when the people of Yamama had been killed (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against Musailima). (I went to him) and found `Umar bin Al- Khattab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), "`Umar has come to me and said: "Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the Qur'an (i.e. those who knew the Qur'an by heart) on the day of the Battle of Yamama, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost. Therefore I suggest, you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur'an be collected." I said to `Umar, "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" `Umar said, "By Allah, that is a good project." `Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allah opened my chest for it and I began to realize the good in the idea which `Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). 'You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book." By Allah If they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur'an. Then I said to Abu Bakr, "How will you do something which Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allah, it is a good project." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and `Umar. So I started looking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on) palme stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart,till I found the last Verse of Surat at-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari,and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The Verse is: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa' (at-Tauba) (9.128-129). Then the complete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr till he died, then with `Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, the daughter of `Umar.
2. Then the complete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr till he died, then with `Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, the daughter of `Umar.
3. The third caliph Uthman was concerned because there were clear differences in the recitation of the Qur'an among the people. The differences were so great Uthman and his companions feared future dispute about the true Qur'an and its contents. So Uthman asked Hafsa for her copy so that a committee could write a single version of the Quran
Hafsas Quran was either not complete or it was edited and not just copied as can be observed in the hadith of Bukhari below
Sahih Bukhari Hadith 4987 Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you."Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.
Sahih al-Bukhari 4988 Zaid bin Thabit added, "A verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuza`ima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23)
Questions: 1. What was wrong with the Quran of Quran of Abu Bakr given to Hafsa to warrant editing by Zaid Zaid bin Thabit the second time? 2. There were four reciters of the Quran attested by Mohammed himself, why were none of them consulted in writing the Quran of Abu Bakr and later Uthman but instead Zaid Zaid bin Thabit was commissioned for the job? 3. Do you now agree that the first and second edition of the Arabic Quran were different?
TenQ: It could be a conspiracy between Aisha and her father Abubakar to tear off pages of the written Quran to wipe off evidence.
This was probably why Abubakar had to do a new Quran while pretending that the Quran of Mohammed was lost.
At least the five times breastfeeding was recited but somehow it did not make it into the Quran edited by Zaid.
I also think Abu bakir and Aisha didn't feel guilty tearing off pages of the Qur'an because they knew majority of the Koran is lost anyway, so whatever they remove isn't going to change anything.
I also think aisha may have confessed to her father her long term suspicion that Muhammed sometimes fabricates Quranic verses for his convenience and not everything is from jubril. “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.”
With above facts, they felt no remorse mutilating the pages of Qur'an for their own convenience.
Ubay bin kab also rejected the uthmanic codex saying he cannot give up what he learnt directly from the prophet. 4719. It is related from Ibn ‘Abbas that ‘Umar said, “Ubayy was the one of us with the best recitation, yet we leave some of the words of Ubayy. Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’ Allah Almighty says, ‘Whenever We abrogate an ayat or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or equal to it.’ (2:106)” (Aisha Bewley, Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari, Chapter 69. Book of the Virtues of the Qur’an, VIII: The reciters among the Companions of the Prophet)
Islamic scholars know that Ubai Ibn Ka’b had a compilation of the Quran that differed from the current version, which was compiled primarily by Zaid Ibn Thabit. Among the differences we know of between Zaid & Ubai’s Qurans, was the fact that Ubai’s Quran had two additional surahs, al-Hafd and al-Khal'.
This problem is acknowledged by Umar in the Hadith. In Sahih Bukhari, Vol. VI, #527, Umar noted that, despite the fact that Ubai was called the greatest reciter of the Quran by Muhammad, two of the Surahs in Ubai’s Quran were not put in Zaid’s codex.
Ubai’s codex of the Quran was the standard version used in Syria before Uthman ordered all manuscripts that did not agree with the one compiled by Zaid et al. to be burned. Many still know Ubai’s surahs today! These surahs have not been lost, they have been REJECTED by the Muslim leaders!
According to Surah 3:3-4, these leaders bring a heavy doom on themselves and their followers.
Umar tried to justify the rejection of Ubay's codex with abrogation. But Ubai surahs were not abrogated by Allah, they were abrogated by Zaid and those who chose his text. The Quran promises abrogated or forgotten things are replaced by Allah with something similar or better (Surah 2:106). How could this be done after Muhammad has passed away?
Zaid et al. should have accepted Ubai’s surahs even if they were only found with Ubai, since he accepted portions found only with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari and Ubai’s credentials exceeded that of Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari.
As we can see, the preservation of the Qur'an lacks serious credibility right from the beginning. To cap it all, Uthman did the Muslim world a terrible disservice by having alternative Quranic synopsis burnt. This is intellectual dishonesty perpetrated by Uthman and aided by unannointed Zaid.
It's amazing Muslims are not disturbed that the Qur'an they hold today was rejected by the best of reciters approved by Prophet Muhammad himself.
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Amr: I heard the Prophet saying, “Learn the recitation of Qur’an from four persons: Ibn Mas`ud, Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, Ubayy and Mu`adh bin Jabal”[2]. Narrated Masruq: `Abdullah bin Masud was mentioned before `Abdullah bin `Amr who said, “That is a man I still love, as I heard the Prophet saying ‘Learn the recitation of Qur’an from four from `Abdullah bin Mas`ud – he started with him—Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hudaifa, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Ubayy bin Ka`b”[3] .
Muhammed never mentioned Zaid, yet he was the one who compiled the Qur'an we have today. A Qur'an rejected by reciters anointed by Muhammad himself.
This goes to show the Prophet himself wouldn't approve of the uthmanic codex Muslims parade up and down as the true Qur'an.
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