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drlateef:
Truth is bitter to you. I have told you the truth.

Bring evidence Mary was 12 yrs when she got married. Just one piece of evidence like this...

Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me.
When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151



What kind of mansleeps with a child still playing with dolls.
Truth be told...Muhammed no try at all.

AbuTwins:
Where did Jesus make your last claim while he was alive and walking around? He rather wait till John sees a dream in revelation right?

When the rich ruler met Jesus, Jesus told him to obey the commandments and follow him!
Later you guys changed everything!

When the richan left and his disciples asked Jesus how can someone be saved? How did Jesus respond?

NaBanga:
I went to school with whites from a small age to graduate school. I have worked with them. I have been in many situations where I have been the only black person. I am still here standing. What of Shanquella Robinson that was killed by her friends in Mexico? You are more likely to be killed by a fellow black person than a white person.

I pity U, continue playing with the white man. The day he gets tired of u is the day he gets rid of u.
Many naive blacks like U learnt the hard way.

Work with whites but don't be friends with them. Simple

AbuTwins:
Your attachment is a Tafsir too!
You rejected mine because it was translated with a Tafsir!

Why are you an hypocrite like this?

You don't even know the meaning of context!

Then post as written in the Qur'an.simple. leave tafsir out.

If Allah had a son, I Muhammed would be the first to worship him.

That's what Muhammad revealed on the Koran.

AbuTwins:
Okay show us the context of the verse then!

This is the context below.


Now will U answer my question, If Jesus is indeed the son of God, should he be worshipped?

AbuTwins:
I have brought it according to the Qur'an I use on my phone and according to the understanding of those who transmitted the Qur'an. If it doesn't satisfy you then go and crucify yourself.

U people will accuse Christians of forging the scriptures by adding their own meaning but U Muslims are also guilty.

What U guys did with surah 43.81 is exactly as the johanine comma in 1 John.
U guys have intentionally altered the meaning of surah 43.81 to hide the embarrassment in that verse.

Anyway this is the verse U refuse to bring here despite persistent request for more than a week

Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If the Most Compassionate really had offspring, I (Muhammed) would be the first worshipper.”

Other translation and Arabic below.

Now based on this verse and not your dubious translation...

If Jesus is truly the son of God, should he be worshipped.

Bintasukai:
I’m happy you are in the mood, let’s continue with all your reverend fathers rapin boys in the annals.

I'm not even catholic so U barking at the wrong horse.
Their doctrine is anti bible and I don't believe they follow Christ in the first place.
So waste of time.

Bintasukai:
Ignore fire. Na to Dey give them gbas gobs. Na to educate them about their religion make dem take keep quiet. The problem is that western media has long been tagging Muslims to terrorist acts while they never do same for Christian’s who commit evil acts. Eg. Have you ever heard Christianity being blamed when their teens shoot up their schools? The Christian agenda is clear. Who are the weakest people you can justify evil crimes against, and they chose the Muslims because they know all they have to do is tell their populace that those guys across the line are bad bad people and their citizens and other bigots around the world will gobble it up. Thereby allowing them a free hand to terrorize Muslims. Please do not ignore them, speak up or you show tacit approval for what Israel is doing in Palestine.

So when al queda drove plane into tall building shouting allahu Akbar, that was western media
When Muslims dragged Deborah out of class n burnt her death then the chief imam of Abuja justified, that one too na western media
U people will do evil, celebrate it but will cry out when U are labelled such.

Nobody start shooting in school shooting in the name of Jesus. Or claim he was motivated by the bible.
U Muslims carry such award.

drlateef:
You are mad. Mary was 10 years old when a 92 year old Joseph started molesting her. Deal with that. All your pastors are rapists raping choir members and ushers every Sunday. Deal with that.

Why not 3 yrs....oniyeye.

U people are so ashamed of the immoral act of your prophet U end up searching for partners in crime to validate his pardophile behaviour.

If that guy had slept with a 14 yr old in Kano or Afghanistan, will they even bother to arrest him?

Bintasukai:
Useless bigot. Christianity is the religion of sexual depravation with minors. Don’t dull it. I pray you are in the mood for a debate.

I'm in the mood.
Let's start with your prophet muhammed- sleeping with a 9 year old is immoral.
Deal with that.

22jumpstreet:
Lol very laughable..

Did you read verse 16?

Isaiah 7:14-16

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you(king Ahaz) a sign: The young woman is with child and will give birth to a son, and she will call him Immanuel.[d] 15 He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, 16 for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste."


Which boy, bro??

First U lied that Immanuel is the name of Isaiah's son. Now that you have been bursted...U now looking for the boy in v 16.

Its impossible for a virgin to give birth. Don't come up with maiden angle because in ancient Jewish tradition a maiden (unmarried young lady) is expected to be a virgin. If U are found not to be a virgin on your wedding night- you are stoned to death.
That's why Septuagint wrote is as virgin.


The prophecy is both for near and ultimate fulfilment.

But if U disagree, then tell me who is the immanuel in
the old testament.
Who fits the criteria of Immanuel in the old testament?

I do not support any immigration that changes the identity and culture of a nation.
God didn't make us one and it's intentional. We are different and that should be respected.

Africans should develop Africa n make it look like paradise.
Enough of blackmail.

22jumpstreet:
No

Nazareth only came into existence in the 4th century...That's even enough evidence that no such person even existed...

There's nothing I hate more than ignorant atheist forming knowledge on bible history.
This is the 2nd blunder u will be making on this thread. Lying up and down.

See your lord and master Bart Erhman response on Nazareth. He obviously calls u LIAR.

https://ehrmanblog.org/did-nazareth-exist/#:~:text=There%20is%20Archaeological%20Evidence%20Nazareth%20Existed&text=There%20are%20numerous%20compelling%20pieces,cut%20kokh%20tombs%20were%20built.

22jumpstreet:
Which ones?

And which evidence did they provide..

I am not disproving the fact that somebody named Jesus(Joshua) never existed around that time...but the one portrayed in the Bible Never existed.

Did someone called Jesus of Nazareth exist. That's the issue.
And was he crucified for whatever reason.

22jumpstreet:
He never existed bro
Only a dunce will believe a woman can become pregnant without the input of a man...

It's a myth, Jesus is just a metaphor for the sun.(The sun of God)

So historians who admitted historicity of Jesus are lying then...

22jumpstreet:
You are just desperate. And you keep failing.
Immanuel is Isaiah s second son. The sign was for king Ahaz, it was to assure him that his kingdom will stand the threat of the northern kingdom and syria...read verse 16...

Try again mister.

Isaiah never had a son called Immanuel. The prophecy wasnt for Ahaz who is a faithless king, did horrible things including sacrificing his son in fire and built altars for pagan gods in the temple. God cared less if he was dethroned.

The prophecy was assurance that the throne of David will be forever secured and will not be truncated according to the plans of enemies kings.

The kings of Israel and Syria had planned to invade Jerusalem and remove Ahaz as king, then install son of Tabeel who was not from Judah to become king.
This will bring an end to davidic descendants monarchy and also God's promise to David that his descendant will always be enthroned in Judah so long as there's a monarchy.

God sent Isaiah to assure Ahaz that the David line of kings shall remain intact and the threat of syria- Israel will not terminate it.
The sign he gave was a confirmation of that Davidic covenant and has nothing to do with Ahaz reign.
That prophecy has both near and ultimate fulfilment seen in one vision.

The ultimate fulfilment was accomplished in Jesus Christ as confirmed by the angelic message to Mary.

Luke 1
31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High (Immanuel). The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”

Is it that American military are using a software they are not familiar with or what's with all these all these meaningless crashes here and there...

God1000:
We still have a long way to go in Nigeria


Nigeria's power generation and supply from its national grid revolves between 3,500MW and 4,500MW for an estimated population of 200 million people.

Can U convert Nigerian consumption to gigawatt so we can compare

AbahJFK:
Drugs/cigarettes addictions are quite very different from porn/masturbation. Abrupt withdrawal from drugs may cause withdrawal symptoms which vary in severity and may lead to death in some people. But on the other hand stopping sex/Indecency at once will not lead to any physical symptoms (but may have some emotional) and therefore no threat to Life. So u don't gradual withdrawal from sex. More over who will monitor the amount of porn u r supposed to watch, as against drugs, where you are monitored and gradually wean off.
Spiritually these two things (porn/sex and prayers/reading the word) can not mix, they are like oil and water. Therefore flee porn(do away with all Indecency materials) the devil can force anything on u, you need to take that step first. Run first (Joseph ran) and God will help you with the emotional battles. Porn/Sex will reduce you to a piece of bread, pls flee and have faith and God will help. But playing with the fire will just get u burnt. If u do away with all the gadgets and avoid persons/things that trigger you, God will help you. If ur right arm will lead you to sin pls cut it off, if not the gangrene will spread n u loss ur whole body

I think U need to attend bible study more. What U wrote here is simply theory.
The outcome is constant struggle with son.
Lots of Christian don't even understand why Jesus came.

Let me ask U this questions

When did Zaccheus perform restitution, was it b4 he met Jesus or after he met Jesus.
When Jesus was annointed by the woman in Bethany, was she known in the community as a sinner as at that time?

While his answer may provoke dissension in Christendom, the solution lies in his answer.

Porn, mastubation, wet dreams are addictions driven by sexual urge- this urge is the most powerful known to man. Man can do anything to satisfy his sexual urge- anything.
We don't know this things because people who indulge in them are to ashamed to discuss it openly thus it's a non-criminal habit done in secret.
Even married people who indulge in it do not tell their spouse.

If U think U can motivate yourself out of sexual urge- U must be joking.
The problem is sexual urge is natural, it's part of your body system that makes u human. Without sexual urge, how can U fulfil God's commandment to procreate and be fruitful

U can't wish sexual desire away, it will surely come.
The only way to overcome the sin that comes with sexual urge is to be filled with the power that overcomes sin- Holy spirit.

And the holy spirit comes by regular meditation and constant reading the word of God. The more U enmesh yourself in the word and let it fill your mind, U will notice your desire for sin will be gone. Its a mystery but it works.
Sexual urge will remain but will only come at the right time. That's what THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN DO.

AbuTwins:
That's the verse I gave you from the Qur'an I use!

See attached!

And that's the context!

My friend bring it as written in the Arabic Koran, exactly as revealed by Muhammed.

Not all these 419 dubious translators who are ashamed of the Qur'an just like yourself.

AbuTwins:
Tell us the context?

Context na Tafsir?

Bring the verse first, then we discuss the context

AbuTwins:
I didn't quote Tafsir. I quoted translated Qu'ran by Mohsin/Khan which is translated with Hadith and Tafsir!

You're ignorant.

What's the context, your hypocritical eyes skipped that? Or you don't know the meaning of context?

Mr Man go and bring surah 43.81 in the Qur'an here. I dont want hadith or tafsir. Bring it as Allah revealed it to Muhammed.
Let's check something.
I want to know why Muhammed wants to worship Jesus.

AbuTwins:
What's the context of the verse?

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "If the Most Beneficent (Allah) had a son (or children as you pretend), then I am the first of Allah's worshippers [who deny and refute this claim of yours (and the first to believe in Allah Alone and testify that He has no children)]." [Tafsir At-Tabari].



Whatever Allah says will happen on judgement day will be as He says!

That hasn't happen yet! So you can't base your argument on a future event!

And it's not even anthropomorphic at all. The attributes of Allah are always of the highest perfection as it befits His majesty!

If Allah has hands His hand are not like ours!

That's the interpretation of "there's none like unto Him"!

U have no shame at all. Too embarrassed to quote your own Qur'an.
Shame will not allow U quote surah 43.81.
Instead U had ran to tafsir to safe face.
My friend bring surah 43.81 here, let's learn something.

Meanwhile no be only U get tafsir on surah 43.81

Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
Say: ‘If the Compassionate One had a son, hypothetically [speaking], I would have been first among the worshippers, of that son; but it is established that He, exalted be He, does not have a child and thus there can be no worshipping of such [a child].


Is this not what U hiding. Muhammed saying he wants to worship Jesus.
Hehehe.....

The question is why would Muhammed contemplate worshipping Jesus at all under whatever circumstances?
Why?

AbuTwins:
Of course the answer is clear!

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(1) The Lord said . . .--The usual prophetic phrase, generally translated, "Thus saith," &c. (See Note, Psalm 36:1.)
The psalmist may possibly be quoting an old prophetic saying, but, according to the usual way in which the expression is used, it marks an immediate inspiration.

My Lord.--Heb., adoni, an address of honour to those more noble than the speaker, or superior in rank: to a father, Genesis 31:35; to a brother, Numbers 12:11; a royal consort, 1Kings 1:17-18; to a prince, 1Kings 3:17; with addition of the royal title, "my Lord, O king," 2Samuel 14:19. . . .

Once again you.....

God is unlike man! Na Councils brought about such theories!

So what we doing now is just back and forth which would never end. At this junction it's pointless.

But I will like to teach u some basic things about the bible and theology because it shows u deficient in knowledge in some aspect and U confusing things up and down.

The word lord.
Now this word is used in three different ways in the bible. The English bible substituted some Hebrew word with lord for easier comprehension and usage, and will discuss it here...

LORD- when U see LORD in the English bible, it's the word for YHWH. The Hebrew bible will have YHWH in those places.

Lord- this word is for Adonai, another name of God in the bible. Lord is not used for anyone else in the bible except God. The tanakh will have Adonai in places English bible writes Lord.

lord- adoni is simply master. This is for humans and never used for God in the bible.

Now the Septuagint bible written by Jews and not Christians in 250 BC which is 250 yrs b4 any Christian was born used the word Lord for the 2nd person in psalm 110.
So psalm 110 verse 1 in Septuagint will read ' YHWH said unto my adonai' Both are names for God alone.

The Jews in the 2nd temple Judaism believe. Psalm 110 is messianic prophecy for a divine Messiah. The Christians built on this and said Jesus is the divine Messiah talked about in psalm 110 since Jesus spoke about it.

Now when the rabbinical Jews complied the Masoretic text now the official hebrew bible in 900AD, they claimed the word is lord and not Lord.
Thus psalm 110.1 in Hebrew bible read 'YHWH said unto my master'.

The rabbinical Jews admitted the psalm is about the Messiah but now rejected a divine Messiah. Instead they insist the Messiah is just a normal human being and not a divine person.

This shows it's the Jews that have changed their understanding of psalm 110 possible influenced by Christian claim of Jesus fulfilling verses like psalm 110.

This explanation is not for argument but to give u and Christians historical context to psalm 110.

Your argument that it was Christians that changed the verse is invalid and not congruent with historical context .

AbuTwins:
Why would God need a son?
Why would God share his divinity?
So Jesus was 100% human and not God at all while on earth?
If Jesus was truly the son of God, we'll have to find out how God gave birth to him? By reproduction, adoption or creation?
But since Jesus still worshipped God and claimed he is going to his God who is our God then we'll still worship the God he worshipped not him!

So why did your Quran say if Allah has a son, the son should be worshipped.
Obviously what U wrote up there contradict surah 44.81
Why did Muhammed gave such blasphemous statement. Why did he say if Jesus is truly the son of God, he would be the first to worship Jesus.

AbuTwins:
Allah already states clearly He begets not nor is He begotten!
And Anthropomorphism does not work in Islam as regards God!

So if anthropomorphism doesn't work in islam, then are U saying Allah truly has a visible shin?
Is that what U saying because a lot of your colleagues here denied the existence of a visible shin.

AbuTwins:
Of course you can stop responding to me. When you look for anything in the Jewish scriptures to prove that Jesus died things that were not believed by the Jews themselves!

Good, the Jews were awaiting the Messiah, that's what the old testament is about. The name of Jesus was revealed as the Messiah in the new testament NOT the old testament.
Looking for the name of Jesus in the old testament is plain idiocy.

AbuTwins:
Where did Jesus call himself so in the Gospels? Jesus didn't appear in Revelations. Probably John was dreaming! And Paul has said Satan masquerades as angel of light! John and Paul were really seeing Satan!

Actually, Jesus never spoke those words while alive and that is clear!

Bible illiterate.
What's the gospel - the good news of Jesus is the gospel. These are words spoken by Jesus Christ.
When U open the New testament scriptures, the words mark in red letters are the gospel. These are the words of Jesus.
These are found in the gospels of mark, Matthew, John, Luke; also the acts of apostle and the book of revelation.

Its your business if U think vision doesn't count. Yet want us to accept the vision of Muhammed as true and genuine. That's serious mental gymnastics in display.
Muhammed never saw any of the patriarch face to face, never saw God face to face. No evidence he spoke to an angel. Everything he gave u guys were his own words.
Have U ever thought he could be psychotic and saying things made up in his schizophrenic mind.

At least people with Paul saw the light and confirmed hearing sound from heaven. They witnessed a supernatural encounter.
Moreover, after the encounter, God sent a prophet named Ananias to open Paul's blind eyes and assure him he's now an apostle of Christ.

U guys don't have anything close to above as evidence of Muhammed's prophethood.
What U have is a violent spirit smashing Muhammad to the ground n a Unitarian Christian called waraka telling Muhammad he's a prophet and promised to teach him the scripture
No eye witness to corroborate the truth about Muhammed. None, if that doesn't sound like a scam I don't know what else to tell U.

AbuTwins:
So Jesus is the only son of man in the Bible?

Jesus is the only person called son of man in heaven

AbuTwins:
So why did the Jews label Jesus a criminal and a bastard if the prophecy was about him?

Pls learn to interpret the old testament and new testament independently. That Jews believed in the Messiah doesn't mean they think the Messiah is Jesus.

Its U Muslims are the ones that merged both together. That's why if I ask U now why is jesus the Messiah in the Qur'an, na another wahala be dat.

AbuTwins:
Abeg no dey mention Revelations to me again as no be dream i dey discuss here! Jesus forgot to mention he was the first and last before them kill am for Bible? Jesus did forgot to appoint Paul too? There are so many things he forgot!

No Jesus didn't forget, the disciple just couldn't handle too many info.
John 16.12
“I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.

AbuTwins:
How does this mean Yahweh is two or three?
New International Version
Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens.

New Living Translation
Then the LORD rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah.

English Standard Version
Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the LORD out of heaven.

YHWH is translated as LORD in English bible. That verse clearly mentioned 2 YHWH. how is that possible? Thought YHWH is one!!!!

AbuTwins:
It is adoni here! Na NT change am! Stop the lie!

You must translate and retranslate to make Jesus God!
You are proving me to be correct!

The Septuagint bible that wrote Adonai as second person in psalm 110 was written 250 yrs b4 birth of Jesus Christ.
So I dont understand the Christian lens U talking about
The writers of the gospel quoted from the Septuagint which rightly said 'THe LORD said unto my Lord'
The Masoretic written 900 yrs after Jesus Christ insisted the word was lord.
So which one was biased and may have been influenced by the Christian lens.
The answer is clear.

AbuTwins:
Must you always tell lies like this? How many visions of God on throne do we have in the Bible?
Are they figurative too?

Go and read anthropomorphism and stop constituting nuisance here.

AbuTwins:
You sabi lie bro, i will give that to you!
You did prove me right sha!
A Christian has to retranslate verses to derive a divine Jesus!

There's actually no verse Jesus called himself God!

Na Exegesis and Eisegesis reward you with the Nicene creed!

Jesus on earth wasn't physically God. Instead he's physically the son of God which means he has the same divinity as in the Father.
That's why I've asking U multiple times- if Jesus is truly the son of God should he be worshipped.
The answer to above question will definitely end this debate.

AbuTwins:
Where was Jesus's name mentioned in the Psalm verse?

If U actually serious about looking for Jesus name in the old testament, then don't mention me again. I'm not here to debate an unserious clown and a time waster.

AbuTwins:
The first of what? The Last of what? The beginning of what, the end of what?

What is reserved for God is “I am the first and I am the last, and apart from me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6 Jesus does dare to call himself God directly or openly until you reinterpret one verse and relate it with what God said somewhere else!

This clown doesn't know Jesus called himself the first and the last in the new testament.


Revelation 22
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”


I know Allah also called himself the first and the last in the Koran. So my question is why is Allah stealing Jesus divine title?

AbuTwins:
Did Daniel mention Jesus?

Another stupid question. No he mentioned Muhammed.

AbuTwins:
"The metaphor "like the son of man" can only mean Jesus? You really need to be sane! Who is being referred to in the context?

Daniel 7. 13 is a messianic prophesy. Even Jews consider it a messianic prophesy. The son of man described in the passage is the Messiah.
And Jesus was called like the son of man again when John while in the spirit saw Jesus in heaven.

Revelation 1

12 I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man, dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. 14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Jesus is like the son of man in heaven!!! confirming what was written in Daniel 7.13
And another verse where Jesus called himself the first and the Last- take note.

AbuTwins:
It does! Na only God be God! Your Jesus dey separate! You worship more than one Gods clearly!

Go and read anthropomorphism my friend. Learn theology and stop talking like an ignorant person.
I leave u with this verse in Genesis to chew on.

Genesis 19.
24 Then the YAHWEH rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from YAHWEH out of the heavens.

Here we can see YHWH on earth calling on YHWH in heaven. So how many YHWH do we have in the old testament?
Remember the Jews who compiled the old testament believe in only one YHWH.

AbuTwins:
Now you brought the Jews into this matter. Do the Jews believe in your Daniel 7:13 verse as referring to Jesus? adoni is used for man of authority not God! Why not comment on this?

The Jews believe both psalm 110 and Daniel 7.13 are both messianic prophesies describing a divine Messiah.
The word adonai is another title for God while adoni is master which is for humans. There's biblical scholarly debate whether the word used originally is Adonai or adoni.
Septuagint our oldest extant bible manuscript written 250 BC wrote it as Adonai meaning another name for God.
The Masoretic text which is the official Hebrew bible written 900AD claim it's adoni- master.
I dont want to go into debate on this adonai/adoni....but the point is the Lord/lord in psalm 110 is referred to as the Messiah by 2nd temple
judaism.
This person cannot be an ordinary human because the passage described him as a king and a priest simultaneously who will reign forever.
He is described as someone after the order of Melchizedek who we know to be a priest forever and has no end or beginning. These are divine attributes.
No matter how U twist it the person sitting on the right hand is a divine being- there's no 2 way about it.
That's why 2nd temple Jews call him divine Messiah.

AbuTwins:
In the new testament the titles has been changed to make Jesus God as usual!


If Jesus sits at the right hand of God them who sits at the left side? Jesus's mother and God's wife?
The sitting room picture should also include Jesus's wife and children too!
You guys won't fail to embarrassingly describe God just like humans fully!

This is your dum.best statement ever. Its like U don't read b4 typing.
Do U understand the meaning of figure is speech at all or we are to assume U didn't have adequate formal education enough to decipher metaphorical statement.
Or should I ask U...did U go to university?
I clearly explained to U what sitting at the right hand of God meant- having same honour and status as God. I even brought a screenshot as evidence.
Yet U came here with literal understanding of the phrase.
God is a spirit, he has no hand and doesn't sit. He's not Allah. Get that right.
That why I told U to go and read anthropomorphism in order understand visions in the bible

NOW SAY AFTER ME, SITTING ON THE RIGHT HAND IS A JEWISH TRADITION FIGURE OF SPEECH MEANING HAVING SAME STATUS AND HONOUR.

That's why the priest and Pharisees were mad when Jesus used that word during his trial. It was blasphemy!!!

Matthew 26

The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

64 “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

65 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. 66 What do you think?”

“He is worthy of death,” they answered.

AbuTwins:
I am not here to answer questions from the Qur'an if i don't want to. The thread is about how Jesus was made God for Christians!
And the truth is that Jesus was made God for you with so many theories and lies around so many Jewish scriptures that are not even related to Jesus contextually that you keep pinning it on Jesus!

🥱🥱🥱 What's my one if U answer it or not.
As if I can't go to surah 42.81 and bring the embarrassing verse her for people to read what U Muslims are hiding.

I will continue to harass U Muslims with that verse until the contradiction of that verse is perfected in your skulls.
That verse is a clear prove your Allah is polytheistic in thinking.
Imagine saying he doesn't mind sharing his glory and divinity with another being if such person actually exist.
Chai....Muslims have been defrauded.

AbuTwins:
OK, David wrote this one! Alright!

Where was Jesus's name mentioned in the Psalm verse?

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This African countries will just allow world power break cox it for their head.
People don't know the new civil war going on Sudan is actually a proxy war btw Russia and USA over who gets to build military base in that strategic country.

U expelled USA and next thing openly invited Russia, and U expect USA to take it lying low.
African countries are very naive when it comes to global politics. Very naive, very soon they will realise play stupid games win stupid prizes.

AbuTwins:
Do you understand simply English?
What does it mean that scholars contend a matter?

It simply means it is not 100% factual.

Stop presenting what scholars contend as being factual! That's dishonesty and insincerity!

Your attachment said scholars contend this matter!

ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE OF Awareness OF YAWHEH PRIOR TO ISRAEL BECOMING A NATION.

THIS IS HISTORICAL FACT NOT ASSUMPTION

THE SHAWU OF YHWU

So if Egyptian knew of YHWH, what stops how prophet Muhammed from knowing the name YHWH.

Why didn't he know the name YHWH?

AbuTwins:
Do you understand simply English?
What does it mean that scholars contend a matter?

It simply means it is not 100% factual.

Stop presenting what scholars contend as being factual! That's dishonesty and insincerity!

Your attachment said scholars contend this matter!

I will not allow u hide behind one finger, I will slap U with more evidence. U this TRUTH DENIAL

Scholar contending is an assertion to the evidence they bring to validate their findings. U this educated illiterate. I doubt U wrote any thesis on your life ...reason why U confused by the word contend.