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Ohyoudidnt:
Gross display of ineptitude and ignorance. I gave you a test and surely you fail. You keep failing. I said identify, did you specifically?



You don't get it and unless Allah wills you never will.

The concept of the Holy Trinity, which refers to the Christian belief in one God existing in three persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, has its roots in ancient pagan religions.

The trinity is not a unique concept introduced by Christianity, but rather borrowed and adapted from earlier pagan beliefs. In ancient Egypt, the deity Horus was often depicted as the son of the god Osiris and the goddess Isis, forming a trinity of sorts. Similarly, in ancient Babylon, the trinity of Ishtar, Sin, and Shamash represented the mother, father, and son.

Is that why Koran made Mary the wife of Allah and Isa the son

And talking about copying ancient practice.
Who were the pilgrims visiting kabba every year to circumbulate it b4 Muhammed told Muslims to copy
the the tradition

ednut1:
you only want to make yourself feel good. Most of the religions in the world today use the original language where they originated. Some things are lost in translation. Your cannot translate Yoruba incarnations to English for example. In summary i support Muslims using Arabic shikena. Same way i support Hindus doing same

Yeah makes sense if the religion is restricted to it's native speakers.
How many Muslims understand the Arabic they cram. How many of them can speak Arabic fluently, I engage them regularly here, U will be surprised I know more english Koranic verses than majority of them.

Few white people I know that do Yoruba incantations actually lived in Yoruba land for years and indoctrinated themselves properly into the Yoruba culture b4 making incantations or consulting ifa oracle.
That's how it should be done. Not sitting down in Lagos and cramming a book written in foreign language u have no clue about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wB6wse6CA?si=uzkWl0Ii4PBoBWd5

Btw, We have the Hebrew bible with us today. We also have the Aramaic new testament and koine greek NT with us.
So it's not like the native language is lost anywhere. We do have them with us, it's not just important for us to start cramming it when U don't even speak the language
Makes no sense.

ednut1:
true faith indeed that they white man used it to justify slavery and also colonized us. There is nothing like true faith abeg rest. The bible was written and edited after Jesus died . So how can you be sure of what Jesus advocated for language wise. The religion of were he was from still use their own language wherever they are( jews).

Christianity that was cooked by unknown men in rome/ Vatican . Keep consoling yourself o

No need to go emotional bro. Its obvious U ve not don't your due diligence on this topic and just repeating the stale narratives flying around.

I just don't understand how people keep associating white man to the bible when there's no blue eyes and blong hair character in the bible. Yes U heard me, no white European character in the bible but I can show U at least 20 black people mentioned in the bible including Abraham, moses and David's wives!!!


The white man didn't use the bible to colonise anybody just like the Romans didn't use the bible to colonise the native English people or any Germania tribe.
They used power and might. The mighty will always feed on the weak.

The white man didn't preach bible to anybody in exchange for slaves. Greed and stupidity on African tribes played a bigger part.
To let U know the white man didn't use the bible to justify slavery, they actually gave a different bible to the slaves.
They slavers knew if they give the true bible to slaves, they will automatically realise they shouldnt be in chians.

Christianity cooked in Rome and salted in Vatican na propaganda. That can work on a Christian who has poor knowledge of early church history.
I have debunked atheist multiple times here on their ignorance and propaganda. We can discuss church history in the 1st century sometime in the future.

I actually researched Christianity properly b4 making a decision to join the faith- Both textual and historical research and the more I dig deep, the more it's obvious Christianity is the truth.

U can start by reading something called the Corinthians creed to know if what we claim is actually the truth.

ednut1:
Jesus didn’t speak English, Spanish, Portuguese or Russian tho. If for example oyo empire was the one who colonized the world and we spread our religion. Does it make sense to read incantations in English assuming we conquered England. Hell no

I’m not a Christian or Muslim tho

That's what make Christianity the true faith and not ifa religion.
U should be able to communicate with the supreme and universal deity in any language since he created them all.
How can U say the only way to communicate with a universal God who created all languages is thru a specific language otherwise he won't hear u. It doesn't make sense.

It shows the religion is a tribal one that was elevated to a global level via whatever means.

Christianity dont have this problem because neither Jesus nor his disciples advocated for a liturgical language for worship. One of the reason I believe it's from God.

ednut1:
Did Jesus speak English?? The Europeans are also using it to promote their own language no be so?

What do U mean by above. There are millions of Christians who can't utter a word in English, they are no less Christians than English speaking Christians.

U fall my hand by this analogy sha.

Ohyoudidnt:
Who are the immediate audience of Muhammad pbuh?

We have revealed it as a Recitation in Arabic that you may fully understand

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Show me the Arabic phrase calling shin character or call it a day

Ohyoudidnt:
Doesn't you Jesus not support the trinity?

Define trinity as U understand it or what do U think christian believe to be trinity

Qasim6:
This particular verse you quoted is addressing christains believe.

This verse is just telling us what Jesus preached to the Israelites in contrast to what christains believe.

Maybe the verse you wanted to quote is Q4:157, which I believe is addressing their claim in the Talmud.

That's the problem. That verse is very problematic and your response is based on hindsight knowledge which Muhammed didn't have.
The verse states some people declared Messiah is Allah.
Jesus corrected them by saying ' o children of Israel' and admonished them not to associate partners with Allah.
So the question is who said the initial statement. If it was Christians why would Jesus respond to children of Israel instead of Christians.
That error depicts Muhammed thought children of Israel also believed Messiah to be Allah.
And that leads to numerous problems as U already guess.

The verse and preceding verse made no mention of Christians.

Expanse2020:
Mark the word shin in the Arabic text... Maybe you can understand what you are saying rather than saying wrong thing

My friend, whatever is the shin in Arabic I don't care.
Is that shin one with God, that's my question.
Is the shin with Allah or separate from it.

Tawhid makes no sense.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't overeach but show any where that Jesus says he, the holy spirit and God are one entity.

Why would Jesus say that?

Lukuluku69:
In your previous post, you claimed the Trinity was established and I ask why is a need for a Conference to discuss it?

Do you know a bit about logic and priori events?

The definition of trinity as defined and established by the council - that is what they came up with.

They were not the only one who came up with the definition of trinity albeit the most popular.
I was referring to their own definition.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't mind SIRTee15, Advocatejare, TenQ, MightySparrow,Aemmyjah and their lots diverting from the reality of the polytheism they practice in the trinity guise of Christianity.

In Arabian culture, the proverb “when the shin is made bare” signifies a situation where someone’s true intentions or character are revealed. It implies that when a person’s shin is exposed or uncovered, their true nature or motives become apparent. This proverb is often used to describe moments when hidden truths come to light or when someone’s facade is stripped away, revealing their genuine self.

U guys will lie to cover up the deficiency in your theology. None of your literature referred to shin as a phrase in Arabic culture.
Not the Koran, not the tafsir and not the hadiths.
But we should accept the confabulation from someone who could barely construct a simple sentence in Arabic.

Ohyoudidnt:
Please show the word trinity in the Bible and if you want to convince show where Jesus says he is one of the trinity.

Kindly note the trinity and emphasize this in your verifiable response

I will show U trinity in the bible if U show me the word Tawhid in the Koran
But if U looking for the extrapolation of the term trinity.

Let's start with baptism of Jesus Christ.
Then read Matthew 28. 19

Charlie2020:
There's a 127 year old man in Guyuk Adamawa State. This man witnessed the first and second WW. He calls Zik and Awolowo his juniors. If you want to get the man to tell you stories of past 100 years, just buy him original Sapele water

He's suffering from dementia

Igb0sCriminals:
Hehehe

Àìrìnjìnà la ò rí abuké òkéré


My great grandfather is 139 although a bit fragile now

My grandfather is 106 and still agile

Make Una dey deceive Una sef.

Villa12:
Islamic girls
Jehovah witness
Catholic
Penticostals

Decency amongst our girls are in this order

I can confidently tell U 99.99% of deeper life ladies get married as virgins.
Over 90% of Pentecostal girls from upper class/elite homes get married as virgins.
Multiple seminars are conducted by youth wing of Pentecostal churches just to discuss importance of virginity and keeping yourself till marriage.

I will rate catholic, white garment and Muslim girls as the same. They all sleep with their fiance steady prior to marriage. They only promote mutual fidelity.

Emu4life:
Now you sound pained. But your 'God' died

Tell me the difference btw worshiping a black stone in Mecca and worshipping one in Nigeria.
And to imagine this one will call traditional religion idolatry.

I just don't understand why U will will embrace stone worshipping and then decide to go for the one in Mecca.
What happened to ancestral stones your forefathers worship.

Emu4life:
Now say it without crying
Your 'God' Died. Lol. And he was crying for help on the stakes
What a dying 'God'

I would rather worship a dying god than worship a black stone.
A black stone that was stolen and thrown back into kabba after the bandits found it useless.
Bloody pagans.
Remember to bow to your god, the black stone b4 going to bed.

And

Tell the difference between the two pictures below. Tell me the difference btw worshipping a black stone and idol worshipping.

Villa12:
I also School in the south, the Islamic girls in my school are very much descent compare to Christian girls. The two Islamic girls in my class got married as a virgin in their final year. No Christian girls in my class are virgin. Islamic girls generally are descent than Christian girls. That body they cover is not for fashion o. They solely reserve it for their future husband. They don't shake boys nor mingle with boys anyhow. The only Christian that you can still see few descent ones are the Jehovah witness and probably Catholic.

Catholic girls virgins...
U can confidently say U don't know what U talking about. U just confabulating.

Which islamic girls marry as virgins?
I hope U know undefiled bed is not a strong doctrine in islam compared to Christianity.

As I said, U don't know what U talking about.
Bye

Villa12:
Islamic southern girls are better than their Christian counterparts

U gotta be kidding me. They have the highest out of wedlock kids in the south.
Leave your house and know what's going on in the street.

I went to medical school in the south. The Christian girls in my college, U will think they plan to get married to Jesus.

The north is the difference and it's mainly cultural. Northern Christian girls are also well behaved.

Villa12:
I am not a Muslim but i will tell you for free that Islamic girls keep themselves better than Christian girls. This is a known fact.

This is a big lie. The dichotomy is north v south.
Southern girls irrespective of religion on average are morally bankrupt.

Roger3D:
If not for white man you would have been worshipping the gods of your ancestors right?

Ignorance is bliss..
Ask the Ethiopians that question.
Also read on dynamism of culture

Roger3D:
Your White man Christianity is even worse. The history of your religion is couched in blood, but I don't expect a black slave such as yourself to understand that

Pls separate white men from Christianity.

Christianity doesn't belong to the white man. The same way it was preached to Africans is the exact way it was preached to whites.

If U want to argue. U can start by mentioning the name of any white character in the bible...just one.
Otherwise I will just ignore your ignorant comment.

ivolt:
So you think a family setting and a public setting is the same thing?
How many times have you seen semi-nude pictures of women posted by their family members
for fun?

Do you expect total strangers to adhere to such discipline?

U not making any sense. We saying the same thing but religion has beclouded your sense of reasoning.

If it's a female gym, then it's not public anymore. Not every tom, dick and harry can access the facility.

That thing they wearing is harzadous. How can U be on a treadmill with such gown.

U can as well wear agbada to gym to prove a point.

All the crazy Muslim men supporting this nonsense will never wear agbada to gym.

That's what happens when U give up your brain in exchange for religion.

ivolt:
To prevent being exposed like in this post.

So why don't we see the videos of Muslim women when at home without headscarf.
Most hijabi ensure their hair is not exposed when making videos at home.
This will not be posted without their express permission especially in a place like Saudi.

They should wear appropriate gym wear. That thing is not safe.

ivolt:
The gym is strictly for women.

The whole thing no make sense.
If it's a women only gym, then why are they still dressed in such manner.

Mubiola360:
if I should offer you a candy wrapped and unwrapped and was asked to choose one, which would you go for and why?

Are women candy? Why should U compare a woman to candy in the first place.

Emu4life:
I don't think Muslims worship a God that Died

Muslims worship the black stone. U can deny it all U want but it's so obvious to the blind U worship a stone in the kabba.
U guys are pagans

Expanse2020:
You should probably check the verse you quoted before..instead of posting rubbish

This is the verse I quoted in screenshot with Arabic also included.
That's not what U brought here. U don't even know your Koran...olodo
I hope it's not tafsir of the verse U quoted. Tafsir is not Koran.

Expanse2020:
For more clarity to your doubt this what it's written in the holy Quran
On the day when it befalleth in earnest) a matter to which they were blind in the life of the world; it is also said this means: when a severe, horrific matter is revealed; and it is also said that this means: when a sign between them and their Lord is revealed, (and they are ordered to prostrate themselves) this is because they said: By Allah, our Lord, we were not idolaters or hypocrites (but are not able) to prostrate, their bodies remaining erect like solid fortresses,

Where in the Koran is this pasage

Expanse2020:
Is that a question for you too
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Asked me a reasonable question bro

It's obvious the concept of Tawhid is beyond your basic understanding of islam.

This is what your Quran wrote about the shin of Allah.

Surah 68.42
The Day the shin will be uncovered and they are invited to prostration but the disbelievers will not be able.

YUSUF ALI
The Day that the shin shall be laid bare, and they shall be summoned to bow in adoration, but they shall not be able,-

So this verse clearly stated the shin of Allah- whatever it is, deserved adoration and worship.

Your hadith confirmed it- Believers will recognise Allah by his shin.

Now I'm asking my question again,

this shin referred to in surah 68.42, is it one with Allah or separate from Allah.

Expanse2020:
You are just wailing on not because all the lie you concocted here is already void with just a Surat in Quran
WHICH UNIQUENESS YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR MAKER MORE THAN THIS

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him.

How many verses like this did you want me to give you...

Show us if you have a better verse for Jesus to *said I am God in the bible
*Worship me only
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oni yeye

Then answer my question
Is the shin of Allah one with Allah or separate from Allah.