₦airaland Forum

enyojo:

IF I DON'T ANSWER THIS FALLACY, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SLEEP WELL THIS NIGHT
CHECK OUT THE ARRAY OF ACN LEGISLATORS: OLORUMBE MAMORA, ABIKE DABIRI, GANIYU SOLOMON, AND SO MANY OF THEM. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP THE RED AND GREEN CHAMBERS HOT. EXCEPT IF YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO WATCH THEIR SESSIONS REGULARLY

BESIDE, I DON'T HATE TINUBU AT ALL!!! TINUBU IT WAS THAT DRAGGED THE FG TO COURT OVER ALLOCATION TO LGAS IN LAGOS AND HE WON OBJ IN EVERYTHING IN EVERY COUNT. TINUBU PAID THE LGA ALLOCATIONS FOR MANY MONTHS WHEN OBJ DISOBEYED THE SUBSISTING COURT ORDER. WHY ELSE DO U THINK THAT LAGOSIANS HATE OBJ AND PDP SO MUCH? JONATHAN WILL END AS THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB

Are all allegations of corruption and other such charges including cases pending in the US against Tinubu false? Or do you simply expect me to close my eyes to all that and blindly swallow what you have just posited? Since when did fighting the Federal Government become equivalent to sainthood and progressivism? If that is the case shouldn't Nigerians have flung their arms open to embrace Atiku? PDP also has "progressive" legislators too so please sing a different tune.

If most accounts are to be believed then what is happening today is a good thing in my opinion, because at least it shows Nigerians having some sort of power to hold their leaders to account. But please, let us not go over the top with this ACN thing. They are not the best thing since sliced bread. I personally believe we could be on the dawn of progress simply because (going by what could happen in the next 24hours), elected public servers would have to start taking the electorate a bit more seriously because we can throw them out at the polls. Surely that and the balance of power in the legislature is a good thing, isn't it?

Remii:
When did Aregbesola get there, how long does it take to award contract, or you expect him to just be a dictator?. He is still implementing Oyinlola's budjet you know. he has just created 20,000 jobs for young men and women, he has reduced school fees in tertiary institutions . You evaluate people on KPIs over a period, at least 1yr.

Fair enough he got in just late November and Fayemi last October. So my question goes, when people shout "ACN is progressive" "ACN is progressive", whose performance are they rating or linking such declarations to if Fayemi and Aregbesola just got there late last year and whose tenures by your postulations might be too early to pass a verdict on? If it is not Fashola then who is it please? So please spare us. When I think ACN I think Tinubu.

jason123:
Can you give me an example

There are only four ACN govenors in Nigeria at present. Would you suggest that Aregbesola is performing the same way you would say, Amaechi, or Fashola or Sullivan Chime or Imoke are? Oshiomole has always had the supoport of civil societies but would you so boldy proclaim him as a performing govenor when the verdict is still out? Fashola is what has made ACN seem progressive, to suddenly declare a party that has only four govenors as progressive based on the performance of one man and because they have had less opportunities to screw up, does not make the party progressive. Heck Fayemi just got in. What solid tangible developments can you point to with regards to the governors I called now when compared with the other such "progressives" I mentioned? By the way, Amaechi and Chime who are doing quite well are in PDP.

Tinubu's prominence in ACN will always give me reservations about that party. I don't believe ACN is vastly different from PDP. What I am happy about is that the electorate has been given a chance to punish a people they saw as non performing by casting for others. Not all ACN governors are performers, just like not all PDP governors are non performers. I am just happy that we seem to be heading for a more balanced legislature that can hopefully work more for Nigerians. I don't necessarily see ACN having complete control of the legislature as a good thing and thankfully that won't be the case.

WOW, so we are actually seeing free and fair elections in Nigeria? I reserve my comments till results are officially announced, but this should be food for thought for people who were shouting for JEGA to be thrown under the bus. If shifting the elections to today was what was needed to give us this kind of elections then I say well done JEGA. Finally, there now seems a better balance of power in our legislature as opposed to the almost one party affair that was the case in the previous dispensation. The future is already looking more interesting. We still have two more days of elections to go but so far I say, money and time well spent (the voter turnout was dire though).

agabaI23:
Give us the plan ^
Do not use that as an excuse.

You will go to GEJ thread and say he cannot talk or he is dumb but here is your man answering out of context  meaning he is out of touch yet you won't accept.

He is clueless. Accept it!

When he could not perform in a debate you guys said he is a man of few words
When he could not answer questions you chose to interpret it as not having sugar coated tongue.

If it was GEJ, he will be a dumbo.

Double standard!

Exactly like Buhari who will jail a vice president and place the president in house arrest.
Abacha did not steal!

True there is an element of double speak and it is quite obvious. At the end of the day though, elections tend to be about the person who you believe will do what he says, not the person who says the most (that is the way I feel anyway). We have had plans and plans in the past, we are not lacking in plans, we just need someone to implement and follow through on some of these proposals we keep hearing all the time.

[quote author=he-bro link=topic=637242.msg8040353#msg8040353 date=1301777614]Hey.yes jega failed us but a leader shld be judged by not how he falls but how he rises afta fallin.electn materials arivd late in iwu's tym and he carried on wit d election wit fake papers.jega has don d ryt tin by acknowledgin his errors and postponin it by 48 hrs. [b]I ll rather its postpond 4 48 hrs and do d ryt tin dan do d wrong tin now and suffer for anoda 4 yrs![/b]Jega is an exemplary leader joor[/quote]I completely agree. We can't keep saying "let us get elections right" and keep it on the list of things the nation is yet to achieve. Are we not tired of not progressing? Imagine four years down the line and leaders are still selling themselves on being able to give free elections?!! Let us get it right now. Not in years time, but right now! No excuses.

kcjazz:
Thinking about it, the elections should have being conducted by georegions. The riggers are hard workers and postponing it is a huge risk.

Hard at work doing what, imprinting their thumbs on multiple cards? You do now we are supposed to be using DDC now right?

otokx:
@sky blue

he has a time limits and people have their own lives; do you know the impact on our already comatose economy. The market woman who runs generator in her house and fends for her family, JEGA has now blocked her income.

If it gives us for the first time ever in our history, free and fair elections that would lead to sucessful transfer of power to the elected, isn't it worth it? Many things are suddenly beginning to make sense I tell you, my only solace is knowing that nairaland is not Nigeria and not necessarily all Nigerians think like this. Its like we will and inspire our leaders or those in power to fail. We like to be at the same place, we like where we are, we like seeing recycled leaders, we like being promised every election that we will be given light and good roads, we are not ready to move on. I rather have late delayed elections that are sucessful and fair, than the ontime ones we have been having which end up rigged, violent, etc. We need to get this step right.

ujchief:
next he'll head to National assembly and demand new funds. mscheeeew,
where are those clamouring for Iwu's head.

And this automatically makes Iwu a saint? When will people grow up? If we bring back Iwu and he gives us all the k legged elections again what are you lgoing to say then? O bring back JEGA? I can now clearly see why we keep recycling leaders and Babangida has had the gall to consider running for all these past elections. I bet if Abacha was alive he would have had a shot again. Let JEGA do his job. If it requires till next month, as long as it ends in us having free and fair elections. We can't keep being content with crawling, we need to grow up eventually, gosh.

O please, what exactly is the alarm for? Elections have not been held and we are all making noise for what exactly? If the elections need to be moved till next week then so be it, as long as it ends with free and fair elections. I can't even believe that one or two posters were already calling for Iwu to return, how shocking!! Do we want progress at all? It won't be long till someone will say bring back Abacha, the short memory is shocking. Gosh! JEGA please do your job and ignore all the whining. The fact that he was bold enough to make the decision knowing there would be a backlash speaks to his character. If he needs till monday then so be it. We hired him to do a job, let the man do the darn job.

Syenite:
Looks like they are a bunch of secondary school students. Look at that one saying 'you are not a parastatal, FG workers are not parastatal'.I think he just picked-up this story from one of the dailies and pasted it without comprehending it and the implications.

Don't worry Beaf and Sky-Blue, when you attain a certain level of education you will understand this topic better ok?

If it is the kind of education you are displaying you are wishing on me then honestly speaking God Forbid Bad Thing. You can keep that kind of education that makes you believe saying the same thing over and over again passes for something of substance. Again, not trying to cause offence but just being honest. You are still yet to make any solid point on this thread. And just for the record, you might work for a government parastatal but you as a person (a noun) are definitely not a parastatal. I was going to ignore the issue because I don't believe in being pedantic for the sake of it, but you keep hammering on about it that it is getting a tad irritating. There are online dicltionaries available, use them.

Fhemmmy:
Chief  . . . how come you talking like this?
When they govt parastatals are buying the rides made in Nigeria, who are the one buying it, whose money are they using, it is my money and your money and that made you the owner of those rides too.
Once again, i am not against buying Nigerian made rides, but who is making sure safety is not compromised, in a nation that people are still shipping cars without airbags?
A nation that cant even make sure the quality of roads are built to make sure people are not dying like chickens?

Please stop referencing my posts. I already saw a mile away that exchanges with you would be futile. If you want to vent for the sake of it just do so and leave me out of it. Stop asking me such silly questions about safety being compromised when it is obvious you have not even done any check up on the so called "safetey standards" you shout about. Have you called the companies involved and they refused to give you information on safety standards or told you they are relying on native doctors to hold the cars together? Gosh! You know nothing of the cars, the research and development gone into the processes, the way the company manufactures, the testing they are involved in, NOTHING, but you are adamant they are unsafe because Nigerians are involved? And this is the kind of education @Syenite is praying I receive before I contribute to this thread? God Forbid.

Erhagbe:
Nigerian Leaders will always have good policies but never think of ways to implement them. We should buy made in Nigeria cars good thing, but let me ask, how many brand of cars are made in Nigeria, secondly, do have the technical know how to manufacture different models or you want us to be left without an option ie buy only what is available and not what you want, WHAT NONSENSE.

Who has asked you to buy made in Nigeria cars? Where in the article was it stated that Nigerians were ordered to buy made in Nigeria? Are you a federal parastatal?

jensinmi:
@ SkyBlue

Bros. No vex o. But Is the burden of proof of a car's safety on the manufacturer or the consumer??

It is not a consumer's business to find out whether the car is safe or not. It is the manufacturer that should put all that information out.

Which Nigerian Agency will provide the equivalent of the NHTSA safety rating of these cars; most of which will be buses ferrying more than 40 people at once.

I won't buy an Innoson car now, just like I won't buy a car made by some local Chinese (Shenzhou or something like that). That is just what these Innoson Cars are.


I value my life and that of my family. Even the fact that it is cheaper (which I doubt) would hardly sway me towards it.

Despite so many advances recently, a lot of people still see KIA (A major motor manufacturer) that way. They do have nice cars though.

Have you approached any of these companies and asked them for such proof of safety and they refused to indulge you, or has nairaland become an automatic official point of query in such matters? I understand your query is made innocently but this is car assembly, not wheelbarrow assembly, I am sure you are not being patronising to such companies and people involved on purpose, are you? I would like to assume you are aware that many such companies involved in demanding engineering tasks apart from investing in the local human resource available also tend to bring in experienced Nigerians from abroad with specialism in such areas, you are aware right? We are not assembling moi moi here so please loose the condenscending tone, that is one of the things I find most irritating.

Fhemmmy:
If the purpose of telling Nigerians to buy a Nigerian made is all cos it is made in Nigeria and will not satisfy all i listed above, then, i think GEJ should be probed, it is either money has exchanged hands or he might be a co-owner, cos a business that is not paying taxes, not giving jobs to the people and the quality assurance of the coy has no record that could be checked should not be encouraged . . . .NOTE: Not saying the coy in question is any of those.
But dont tell me it does not take away from the Order, it surely does.

LOOOOOL. Yes, it was actually specified in the report that the vehicles must be bought from INNOSON, which is the only vehicle assembly plant in the whole of the country, a company that is also co-owned by Jonathan because he explicitly said the cars must come from INNOSON. Point taken. Next!

Syenite:
Something tells me this guy works for INNOSON or has an interest or a stake in the company. Don't mis-understand me.I am not saying Nigeria should not manufacture anything. What I said is that we should explore our areas of competitive advantage, create an enabling environment for us to develop these areas.
Haba!! apart from the auto-industry there are other sectors that Nigeria can beat even the 'super-powers'.

@Fhemmy the great auto marchant thanks for the complement.

Come on, a tad pathetic don't you think? What is partly irritating is the condencending tones in your posts, but you might be too involved to even see it. Can you imagine asking whether people are not aware of the possible implications of power failures on the manufacturing process? Because the lead engineers involved are polytechnic drop outs and the people investing in the plant were certainly not as intelligent as you to consider such factors? You have not driven these cars, probably don't know what the plants look like, don't know anything about the standards they adhere too, but you are certain they are unsafe? Wow. If this is your input to this thread then be rest assured, I have read it and seen it. Next!

Fhemmmy:
I have heard of that company and that is great.
however, have never driven in one before.
Also, how many of the govt buses are made by this coy?
How many of the vehicles in the fleet of Jonathan are made by them, why cant he start by getting all his fleet changed to what are made in Nigeria.

And this takes away from the positive in the initiative . . . how? An "order" is given which would lead to more demand in Nigerian assembled/made vehicles, more profits and hence capital for such businesses to expand and pump into more research and development, hence more employment opportunities for graduates, more specialism, more tertiary industries springing up as a result, and this is the problem you have with it? Some towns in UK and the states survive on just one major company existing in them because it employs the town, creates money for government to invest in infrastructure through taxes, etc, and this is your problem with this? Look, apologies but I am familiar with how you 'debate' from past experiences, and I am simply not interested in getting into endless loops. Permit me to not bother replying if I don't think it is worth it.

Syenite:
We are all Nigerians and you and I know how things work here.If Toyota as near perfect as it is can have recalls for some of it's Prius and a few others which might not constitute up to 5% of Toyota models manufactured, that tells you that the automobile industry has very high regards for safety standards. My dear u cannot compromise safety. If Toyota can have recalls it means the made in NIgeria cars will have over 99% of it cars recalled after one month. Imaging experiencing power failure when coupling a computer programmed component.Do u know what car manufacturing is all about? Men no,no,no,no, no be our talent.
Abeg Nigeria should explore other arears of strength.

So you have never driven an INNOSON car, you don't know the effort put in to get the plant working, you don't know effort put into research and design, you know nothing about that or how it ranks with other cars around the world in terms of safety, but you are certain because Nigerian hands are involved we should be worried about safety and are discouraging the federal government from investing? And of course you are the only person who could possibly consider the implications of power failures during the manufacturing process, the lead engineers involved are all polythechnic drop outs who are too stupid to have considered such things. I hope you also won't be the among those people shouting Nigeria doesn't do anything. Please feed someone else your "We are all Nigerians and you and I know how things work here" rhetoric. Disappointing is an understatement.

Syenite:
Oh my God! @ Sky-blue, I think u are not getting something here. Who are the people that will ride in those vehicles? We all know that the government purchase those vehicles from the budget and they belong to goverment as you said.Are u considering the human side of it? I mean how safe are the vehicles?Do you know there are certain standards that will be met before a vehicle is approved for use by my establishment for instance? I am sure if those assembled or made in Nigeria vehicles are brought none will meet our safety standards.
How will you feel when u drive a car that you know that anything can go wrong at any time.

We don't want to be used as guinea-pigs before u start hearing some multiple-autocrash incidents due to brake failure or pulling out of the steering wheel or whatever.

U don't seem to get my point.My view is that the government should create an enabling environment for local investments and search for areas of possible comparative advantage so as to become relevant on the global market. Haba!! u see me for dream?lol.

Ugh, stop grasping at straws please, it is getting irritating. Now the issue is safety of the vehicles? And you know the vehicles are unsafe because? How many INNOSON vehicles have you been in or driven? Toyota had how many recalls last year due to this their brake problem, I do not here you making noise about safety of Japanese cars as a result of that. Will safetey stop being an issue when the "enabling environment" is created? How do you know that these vehicles will not meet safety standards, or is this just another empty unresearched claim just to prove a still elusive point? I repeat, please stop grasping at straws. It is assembled in Nigeria hence it is unsafe, and you think with that kind of mentality you are not part of the group that will make mouth about dearth of industry in Nigeria without seeing the link between lack of demand (partly driven by that kind of retrogressive thinking) and lack of growth in industry in the country? Please spare us the sanctimonious ramblings.

Syenite:
@Sky-blue what do you understand by parastatal?Do u understand English at all?

Do u think it is the buildings and offices or desks that make the parastatals.Is it not the people that work in govt establishments that this order is refering to?For your info I am a public office holder and that order affects me directly so be more reasonable before making comments.

??
Government spends budgeted money on buying cars for ministers, ministries and other such offices. The government is now "ordering" that all such money be used to patronise cars made (or assembled if you like) in Nigeria. So it affects you because you as an individual are being forced to buy such cars, or what exactly? What point are you actually trying to make? Do you know that official cars belong to the government and not the individual? So what on earth are you talking about?

Syenite:
What GEJ is doing is simply putting the cart before the horse. U cannot order people to patronise goods that they don't have interest or confidence in.That is human rights violation.

What our government need to do is to first improve on our basic infrastructures like power supply, good roads, water supply, even improve social security.All these will encouarage local investments in the economy.They need to establish reserach instututes and find out what Nigeria can best offer the world.(Law of comparative advantage).

Leave automobile and electronics to Japan, America, Germany and co.We cannot compete favourably with them.

If it is shoe making, furniture work, bronze casting or what ever we know we can best sell to the global market, let us develop the sector,Invite both local and foreign investors.This will creat more jobs,hence increase per capita earning and GDP and enhance goverment earnings.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Has he ordered you? Which Nigerian has he ordered? Are you a federal government parastatal? Do you actually get the point of the initiative at all or are you just finding space to vent as well?

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=636345.msg8031503#msg8031503 date=1301662010]Na wa o. Border closings aside, what's up with these knee jerk, ill informed restriction of vehicular movement?

How do you expect people to move freely and exercise their right to vote when you restrict vehicular movement? Is Nigeria a village?

How do you expect people who were forced to register far away from their homes to vote if they can't take a car or Okada on election day? We know INEC won't allow you to vote anywhere else.

It is not a secret that the shoddy INEC registration process forced many people to register at work, close to their churches, near the market, on their way to a friend 20 streets from home, and at other places way beyond normal trekking distances.

How are we encouraging them to vote when we ban vehicular movement? There should be a better way to ensure security, Nigeria is not at war, it's just an election.

If the police do their jobs, there will be no need to deny people their votes by restricting their movement. So no Okada on election day? Abi na April fool?[/quote]LOL. So if you really want to vote and you registered far away, you better start leaving the house early enough to get there before 8am. It might be a price worth paying. We need to get these elections right.

We have DDC, and as long as people from Niger and Chad didn't come into the North to register during the voter registration (as has been the case in the past) then land borders being open or closed should not have an effect should it? Perhaps to mitigate any possible chances of violence breaking out. I guess it is better to be safe than sorry.

9ijaMan:
Bros Innoson does not Manufacture cars 100% o! The company can at best be described as a car assembly plant. You cannot claim to be manufacturing cars in Nigerian when all you do is to import parts from china and put them together under a new brand name!

Fine, INNOSON does not manufacture cars 100% (neither did all the others that @jaybee was so quick to laud from the "good ole days", doesn't take away from the huge potential such an initiative would have though.

jaybee:
@ Skye Blue

Indeed I’m not aware.

In Nigeria, anything is possible.

These companies you are mentioning what are their brand of vehicles? What is their production capacity ? what has government done; I mean pdp that has been in power for the past 12 years, to incentivize these investors?

We are talking of a country with about 150 million population. With annual importation of over a million vehicles annually. And you are mentioning some obscured outfits that may not pass for mechanics workshop (apology for the sacrificial investors who are doing great for the love of Naija).

Let us not miss the point. This thread is not about an idea. It is about an order -  “Jonathan Orders FG Parastatals To Patronise Nigerian Made Vehicles”

What I was trying to say was (and is) that GEJ should have checked that the locally assembled vehicles are in the market, in the first place, at with the reasonable quality and price (in a globalized economy) before opening his mouth once again.
The combined production per annum is nothing to write home about – (in the absence of published statistics I can not say). It is dismal, it is disheartening, it is shameful, only overtly shameless people should be happy with this situation as it is.
Go to the vehicle show rooms across the country and ask for  a made in Nigeria  vehicle ( or assembled in Nigeria), then you’ll know  what I’m saying. The car dealers don’t have that in their lexicon. Recently I was at Kaduna international trade fair and guess what I saw ? PAN is importing and selling vehicles mad in iran. I would have bought one, but for fear of its safety standards.
It is simple, people can not buy what is not in the market. Nigerians will buy made in  Nigeria vehicles once they are in the market.

GEJ has not made any point . I stand by my word.

Permit me to be blunt but you are the one that seems to be making no solid point. It seems you just want to vent so I best leave you to it. Instead of asking me questions about INNOSON as if I am their managing director, why not go do some research and find out for yourself?

jaybee:
let us speak like informed people please.

PAN has been privatized (or sold) to OBJs cronies; for the avoidance of doubt, senator (former Governor)  Makarfi & co.
Majority of the workers there have been sacked ( or retrenched)

presently, only one assembly line for peogeot 307 is functional with a daily output of twenty-two (22) cars par day and less than 5,000 cars annually.

i'm not aware of any other vehicle manufacturing plant that is functional.

on this note, I would like to give a big kudos (probably my vote; yes my vote ! ) to Buhari who single handedly, without

any noise, gave a life line to a comatosed ANAMCO, during the PTF days, with a contract to assemble (with substantial

local content) the rugged 1414 buses which were distributed to almost all the tertiary institutions in nigeria. Most of us

enjoyed them; and till date, (about 15 years later) some are still functional and useful to the universities, polytechnics,


colleges of educations, colleges of nursing, monotechnics, etc .

However, GEJ and his pdp killed these assembly plants, systematically, and someone today is insulting the

sensiblilities of an informed nigeria by giving a directive for parastatals to start patronizing what is just not available.

non sense!

You are not aware doesn't mean there aren't. People have mentioned INNOSON in Enugu up and down this thread how many times now? They are a privately owned business and also manufacture/assemble cars in Nigeria. So what is your point? That the idea is not a good one or what exactly?

deezzle:
Sky Blue, Beaf nd other GEJ supporters, kindly enlighten us on why you chose GEJ.

Please do not take this as an attack on your selves and do not respond by attacking but by responding maturely with your reasons.

Who knows, we might see things your way.

thanks

So recognising a good idea is tantamount to being a Jonathan supporter? This section has really gone down the drain and the sectionalism would be really worrying if it wasn't so childishly funny. I do not think like you so stop following me with such silly questions like a dog with a bone. I don't mean to cause offence but I am not interested. See my reply to Eko Ile, it might apply to you. You guys need to go find like minded people you can aimlessly argue and squabble with. I am not interested. I respect myself too much.

Eko Ile:
Unfortunately, it's double jeopardy for Nigerians when it comes to the Government's and PHCN's incompetency and lack of sense of direction and foresight. It's our collective headache  because we pay PHCN for phantom electricity and assume the burden on behalf of every business entity in Nigeria because they pass on the cost they incur via  sourcing electricity for their existence to each and every Nigerian through exorbitant cost we pony up for goods and services.

Taking panadol for this particular headache is inevitable because we shoulder the burden 24/7.

I'm not blaming you for not recognizing these basic economic realities simply because GEJ and his followers tends to be very slow and intellectually stingy and deficient.


Btw, how do we get less dependent on of foreign goods and services?

Didn't  your clueless and incompetent President just asked us to leave our doors wide open and let in toothpicks and other ridiculous items?

And this is the dull and incompetent clown you people want us to vote for?

I am not going to waste my time on you. Go look for someone else to play with because I am not interested.

anishe:
This GEJ will not cease to surprise me. What is the difference between import and assembles in Nigeria.
Did this man goes to school at all. I dont think so.
May be we should vet his certificates.

You can't tell the difference between importing a vehicle and assembling that vehicle in Nigeria and you are questioning somebody else's intelligence? Which of the option creates more jobs and improves and develops more specific skill bases?

igbsam:
You just made a vital point there. How will production go on when there's no power. The company would run on Gen 24/7 to function, thereby giving way to inflation of price when buying the cars. I think Bros Jonathan should have a re-think about this. I think he should first tackle power problem before he can talk of Nigeria manufacturing stuffs. We have a whole lot of individuals, company, small and big scale business willing to produce quality stuffs here in nigeria, but when they look at the power problem, they prefer to kill dat idea or move to other countries to actualize their dreams. When MTN was asked y d hike in network charge at a conference with NCO, they said, it costs them alot to run generator at their base station. I dont think I welcome this idea for now. What do u all think.

Are you listening to yourself? Why not allow the privately owned companies worry about how they source their electricity and stop taking panadol for another man's headache? The very suggestion that we have to wait before power is fixed before we consider stimulating and encouraging industrial growth in Nigeria is irritating and ludicrous. If the cost of the vehicles were so drastically more expensive than similar vehicles manufactured in different countries then that is one thing, but to disregard it because it might be just a little more expensive and not seeing that patronising such products boosts industrialisation and job creation in the country seems a tad myopic and short sighted. We need to reduce our chronic and hopeless dependency on imports, that is money going to other countries and other economies, that is money not being invested in job creation and growth in Nigeria.

PapaBrowne:
I agree with you totally!! And if you notice, I did not directly credit the growth strictly to Jonathan!! The major factor responsible for the growth is the quality of the oil price alongside the stability in the Niger Delta. Jonathan's candidacy is largely responsible for that stability. If we change Government, the possibility for stability in Niger Delta is almost certain to be nil.
Another factor is power!! Without power, we are growing at 8.29%! Just imagine the implications of stable power supply on our economy. Now Jonathan has by far the best power roadmap. The other candidates don't seem to understand the problems in the power sector.

My biggest worry with a Buhari government is that he will in his welfarist/socialist ignorance innocently destroy the potential for growth in our economy, first by instituting unneccesary bureaucracies in the name of fighting corruption and secondly by focusing all finances on welfarist institutions and ignoring key growth sectors of the economy!!!

Do you really understand what is happening in the Niger Delta? You think if Jonathan goes in there and does not try to solve the fundamental problems militants were drawing attention to there wouldn't be instability? Nigeria's problem has never been a dearth of plans or "roadmap", it is actually having leaders, people and institutions in place that are sincere about following through on such roadmaps that has been the issue. In essence all candidates are saying the same basic thing - we will give you light, we will give you roads, we will fight corruption - the issue is which one do you believe really intends to do this, that is the issue.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=635889.msg8026340#msg8026340 date=1301590585]I asked this question before, got no answers.

IMF is not the final world, you are correct. But the linked article doesn't provide a source, so isn't of much value.[/quote]Did you attempt some research yourself or did you just assume someone on nairaland would email the british government to obtain the figures for you?