₦airaland Forum

pro01:
Come to think of it. . .in my opinion, David Mark would not be a bad choice for 2015 presidency anyway. I just love the man's grace, confident elegance, charisma and smooth leadership carriage. He comes across as a man that was Born to Command; a natural leader. Although I strongly doubt that 'the north' would allow a Christian take up their presidential slot. But then that's a matter for another day. I guess we would have to get to the bridge first before we cross it.

auwal87:
You will understand my point well when one day, the one you like to be President isn't elected, and termed a loser of the election, even though he got overwhelming number of votes. If ever it will happen.

The President's speech today is erotically mad, no one will go out to vote with this utterances. For God's sake, what's the reason for comparing Civil war with what is happening? I am lost in this.

auwal87:
Most respondents except some few doesn't understand my point, they think it is because Buhari lost the election.

Runner ups doesn't lose an election, but just doesn't get the required number of votes to win an election, you can't compare the number of supporters of Buhari with that of Goodluck in the North, and that of Goodluck with Buhari in the South. Someday, it will be a southerner that will become the runner-up, and then he will take up the right position of the Prime Minister. Even in sports, the runner-up take the silver while the winner take the Gold, so better understand that runner-up is not equal to a loser.

Prime Ministerial Positions will serve as an avenue to provide peace of mind and a sense of belonging between the North and the South, all sides will feel they are rightly positioned to govern the nation. No side will feel disfigured. If this will continue then very soon the country will be divided, I bet it won't be peaceful, because the North must get rid of all non-Muslims in the region, while the East must get rid of all Muslims in the region, it will lead to massacre, bloodshed, and only God knows when it will end.

As simple as A,B,C

auwal87:
Having 10 million voters isn't just a picking game, it is a system of sub-doing what has been undone. It will be very difficult to have both the Winner and Runner-up from one place, in most of the elections, it is between one powerful politician from the south and one powerful politician from the north, it has been like this for the past decades, and it will always remain so.

gists:
This is not the choice of your people. Here is my personal experience:

I didn't go 4 d senatorial poll because I don't blive in any of the candidate of all the parties. But I voted in this presidential polls and was I was rudely shocked to see that the check-box for the NASS polls against my name was ticked. Meaning that someone had thumb-printed in my name for one of d candidates (my guess is PDP is d culprit, which is the party that swept all the seats in my area).

Then, I came across this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5JSE1YrCs which confirmes my suspicion.

The unproductive party has perfected the act of riging over time (12yrs). They are the master rigers.

proudly9ja:
The Skyblue I know is always objective. This one is sounding like PDPs PRO.

Go and check INEC's facebook page and see loads of video evidence intentipnally ignored by INEC. My group made complaints to INEC officially about child voting and multiple thumb printing.  We even gave suggestions on how these could be avoided during the presidential elections.  Till today we have not got a reply. On whether they heeded to our suggestions or not , d results r dere to see. So don't come here and tell us we didn't complain.

2mch:
DId you see the youtube evidence of madam rigger? Did you see CNN's evidence of underaged rigging? What did GEJ do about it? Please dont come and cry now. Does a country like Nigeria need polling booths in every kilometer? MAybe the 120,000 are for effective rigging. These elections should be recounted with finger print evidence. Obviously the riggers all around the country are too daft to know finger prints are unique to each individual and cannot be forged. That is the only identity we human have that cannot be forged. The joke is on PDP this time.

proudly9ja:
This guy, ure talking rubbish.  Wat is wrong is wrong. whether it is child voters or multiple thumb printing.  If any can be proved, den d ward should be cancelled. This has nothing to do with PDP or CPC.

Sky Blue:
Completely agree, criminality is criminality, no arguments from me. But do we shout "rigging rigging" and close our eyes to under age voters that seemed a very common phenomenom in the north? We can't be biased here. Was the election perfect? I wouldn't say so. Could it have been better? I would agree it could have been. Was it better than the last one we had? I will absolutely make that claim. In cases where there might have been rigging, it could simply be a matter of the riggers got outrigged by the better riggers, but I would say that the shouts of rigging have been over played. There were 120,000 polling booths around the country. What percentage of those got rigged (either by multiple thumb printing or under age voters) that we won't hear anything other than rigged elections? If we are going to be serious about this then results from booths in violation of electoral law can be disregarded to send a clear message, simple. People should push for that if they are serious. PDP is not the only party in Nigeria that knows how to rig. Let us stop being lackeys for people who might have rigged.

2mch:
As per the underaged voters, was it not GEJ's responsibility to ensure that adequate security and observer's are present? I[b]nstead observer's were arrested and the polling agents were left at the mercy of the civilians[/b], because PDP had the whole rigging strategy worked out. If the argument is underaged voters, then the election should be cancelled and done right

Lagosboy:
The result from SS and SE is simply ridiculous coupled with the rigging video we all saw on youtube from rivers.

CPC is right in rejecting the results. The issue is not would GEJ have won without rigging or not the issue is criminality is criminality.

Coolabbie:
^^ Gej won which FCT? In case u dont kno CPC cleared d place right down 2 his backyard.

Sky Blue:
The article is from the very first link I ever posted in this page. If you believe it to be full of contradictions, have you actually gone through the other ones or are you just here to make noise and let me "copy and paste" for you?

Point one seems a triviallity because the court referred to it as narcotics (more generic). Point two and three are questions for the man listed in the article. Tinubu took a plea bargain.

I don't even see the importance of point four, is it a brag or what that all money wasn't given up?? So this really is your rebuff? I don't even know why I am wasting my time. If we can call Atiku (who also went through the US justice system) and IBB criminals then be under no illusions, I (like many others) will also be throwing Tinubu in that group. He does not automatically become acceptable because he got a plea bargain. I was against the excuse that he was somehow different from the rest we regard as corrupt and criminals and I stand by that. If Atiku, IBB and co are not acceptable then why on earth should Tinubu be? What hypocricy. A spade is a spade.

Sky Blue:
And you are hinging too much justification on the fact that he came out without a conviction to his name in a US court, as if the US justice system (though better than what obtains in Nigeria) is a perfect one. Why was he ordered to give up substantial money? What deal was made? So the US courts are in a habit of seizing assets for no good reason? And you come on to talk about lack of conviction being the key issue? What about all the deals the EFCC cut with corrupt officials, or do you think plea bargains and deal making are non existent in the US justice system and only happen in Nigeria? There is no need to be disenginuous. I called Tinubu's character questionable (to put it kindly) and I stand by it. If IBB and co are questionable then so is Tinubu. To suddenly try to seperate him from the pack because we feel like it is plain nonsensical. Progressive my foot!

JUDGEMENT:
j,  Neither a claim nor answer has been filed on behalf of the defendant funds ,  accordingly, it hereby
ORDERED that the funds in the AMOUNT of $460,000 in account,  in the name of BOLA TINUBU represents proceeds of NARCOTICS or were involved in financial transactions in violation of 18 U.S.C ss 1956 and 1957 and therefore these funds are forfeit to the United States,

This whole debacle started with me claiming Tinubu's character to be questionable, and I stand by it!!

dayokanu:
Can you define what an ex convict is and how Tinubu fits an ex-con profile. See ektbears response above.

They have been there for 6months and ppl already see positive movements from them.

ACN being tagged as progressives comes from Tinubu days where he battled against the PDP-OBJ domination.

When ppl call ACN a party of progressives in the current dispensation its due to the good works of Fashola and Oshiomole plus the strong note on which Aregbe and Fayemi started.

A governor rolls out 20,000 jobs out of the blues in Osun state which has been under the PDP cosh for 8yrs. Ppl aint silly, they recognize a performer when they see one

The United States of America, by its attorney, Michael J. Shepard, United States Attorney for Northern District of Illinois, for its verified complaint of forfeiture, states as follows:

1. This is a FORFEITURE action under 21 U.S.C , ss88 and 18, ss 981,
2. The DEFENDANT funds are located in the above-described accounts and were SEIZED pursuant to PROCESS ISSUED BY THIS COURT,
,
4,  beginning as early as 1998, Adegboyega Mueez Akande, WITH OTHERS OPERATED a organiszation (sic) which DISTRIBUTED WHITE HEROIN, a controlled substance under Title 21 of the United States Code.
5,  this DISTRIBUTION OPERATION was conducted on a LARGE SCALE and the PROCEEDS of the operation SUBSTANTIAL. The defendant funds represent proceeds of this OPERATION of property involved in MONEY LAUNDERING.
6,  the defendant funds represent  proceeds of NARCOTICS TRAFFICKING ,  and ,  MONEY LAUNDERING,  the funds are therefore FOREFEITABLE to the United States,

JUDGEMENT:
j,  Neither a claim nor answer has been filed on behalf of the defendant funds ,  accordingly, it hereby
ORDERED that the funds in the AMOUNT of $460,000 in account,  in the name of BOLA TINUBU represents proceeds of NARCOTICS or were involved in financial transactions in violation of 18 U.S.C ss 1956 and 1957 and therefore these funds are forfeit to the United States,

suwailad:
@Sky blue

I dont know what you mean but if you go to Edo state, see what Oshiomohole has done. Even in 2012, edo citizens say they wont vote, that they would rather just 'Install' Oshiomhole again. People are just insulting PDP all over Edo state.

dayokanu:
For one, Aregbe and Fayemi are still under 6 months at their jobs.

Aregbe has already providd jobs for 20,000 citizens of the state which is a step in the right direction because if we ask, They would be paid at least minimum wage of about 10k which amounts to 200m per month.

Ask where was the 200m per month going to under the PDP led Oyinlola. Aregbe is already a movement in the right direction.

Think Tinubu as the face of ACN which is a good thing because It was Tinubu who notably stood up to the OBJ-PDP oppression on all when others were content with the garrison OBJ rule So Tinubu is good for us as a voice against oppression of the PDP

PDP wanted in the US? Since when? over 15yrs ago and he frequents the US like anything? Even if you are trying to discredit someone why dont you take the pain to come up with something concrete and reasonable