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v3:
Isn't that AW's idea? :PNaah, we don't want another Flamoney/Hleb incident. .better to cash-in than lose em for nothing.

Actually we got good money for Hleb. Flamini, well we all know what happened. Or dont you?  

Aribisala abeg swallow your theories jare. When has Fabregas ever acted disrespectful towards the club? He said he wanted to go back to Spain, we said we still needed him, he kept his mouth shut and got back to work. So the silly season of summer transfers was crucial time to you?

DBR:
Ma ink just musin' . . .



Homies cant say a prayer. .ni99az just do the adlibs/
not eaten in days. .cant cant even move his tired lips/
Tragic/. .dire need/ his name on the fired list/
vilest/. .asking why me. .now willing to try sh[i].[/i]!t/

thinking, caught? he'l make trial at least/
tireless,/ from pennin' rap sh[i].[/i]!t. .now peddling' crack shiit/
was nice with them Hooks. . fc[i].[/i]uk it,now u an Addict?/
drastic,/ no beat. .u hang wit the gang clique/

plannin, gat clicked/ hope luck will have it/
noosed, handlin' charm. . foot of a Rabbit/
not sure, Enticin' habit/. .just Carrot dammit!/
your soul worth too much for a pun or a gambit!/

now Future is Close. .wondering' wat it has fixed/
wat if u Open the Present. .and its filled wit Past Gifts?/
No Roof o'er your head from cradle. .not even in Casket/



oNe

This guy sha! Niiiice as in Fabolous


This one?

and 2 Kittens culdda Pecked. . b4 u call a Catechist!!/

DBR haba!!!!!

We need to stop being in constant transition.

eldee:
@Debosky

How do we solve this V3's 'big-buy' delusion syndrome? We're here thinking of what to do about Nasri and this negro is on sum 'Let's buy Benzema'.
Like seriously?? Is that why we're here?
That's how he said we should sell Fabregas and get Toulalan.

The British press keeps feeding him with B.S and he keeps swallowing it.

^^^^Come on honey, dont get ur panties in a knot . He's not talking about joining anybody . But agreeing to put a c0ck on your chest? That ni99a needs therapy!!!!!

slimshay:
Give it up, Gallas is a c-U-n-t, for forks sakes which self respecting man agrees to wear a c0ck on his chest.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/927155/abou-diaby-admits-to-wearing-spurs-shirt-at-home?cc=3888

Oh dear. . . . . . . .Abou nooooooooo!!!!!!! No wonder he plays like s#!t!!!! Now he has to make a public show of burning it!!

Edoyad, then maybe you really don't know a lot of clubs.

And no, what Nasri is doing is a bit different, something akin to what Adebayor did, a mix of money with other clubs.

Its okay for your gf to thing some guy is fine, only insecure people fret at that. But when she starts telling you if you don't upgrade her Bold2 to a BBTorch she will consider him, that's when backhand slaps start flying

Aribisala sorry my pentium1 is slow today. Arsenal players can't make french team? Cos they are disruptive or cos they are not good enough? Your argument is a bit all over the place.

Nasri was called up and made captain after the SA fiasco, Diaby was perhaps the only french credit at SA, once Evra was dropped Clichy was picked, Sagna is no1 on their team sheet, Koscielny is a newbie and he's already been called up, Squillacci is an old man, what exactly are you on about?!

Give it up, Gallas is a c-U-n-t, for forks sakes which self respecting man agrees to wear a c0ck on his chest.

Aribisala are we talking about another Gallas?

Will Gallas please kindly stfu!! These same guys he's going at were jamming until they needed their experienced captain to pull em through. What did he do, he went all Jeremiah meets John the Baptist on them.
Like someone said, 'you lose the right to pass judgement on anybody the moment you knowingly and willfully chose to become a spud'

debosky:
In terms of 'achieved ambition' i.e the target or desired goal (all players desire to play in the CL) Adebayor possessed a higher ambition than Tevez. In terms of 'desire' - now that is far more difficult to measure.

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On to other news, it appears that Arsenal did bid over £16m for Jones, but the player decided to move elsewhere. If true, it does seem AW is willing to spend money this summer, and not simply looking for bargain basement buys.

http://wearethenorthbank.com/arsenal-had-bid-for-jones-accepted/


In terms of not signing Jones, I am personally not perturbed - at £16m, that is a LOT of money to pay for effectively more 'potential'. If we can sign Samba for the same amount or less that would be a far better deal in my view. We have enough (expensive) potential at Arsenal right now.

Arsenal in reality is not somewhere to come and 'learn' how to defend - we need guys who can step in NOW and do the business, not some guys needing to gain experience.

Samba is reported to have said he was close to joining Arsenal in January. I was expecting him to be the first experienced signing in the summer. But bidding for Phil Jones kinda puts things in a different light. Will Blackburn be willing to sell another defender?

mbulela:
if we don't overhaul our central midfield with proven players,the magic that happened this year will not repeat itself.
one of SAF greatest achievements is squeezing blood out of this squad.
this squad has over achieved and it will not repeat itself.
this team (midfield in particular) needs to be improved.
Ashley bloody Young!!!!

Errm. . . . .o . . . .k . . . .

proudly9ja:
News Flash! There's no such thing as loyalty in football anymore. Players play for trophies and/or money. Even Rooney almost left United last season but for the way SAF handled the situation.
Permit me to use your own words. "Kindly tell us from your crystal ball" where we would have ended up without Fabregas? lool, (dat was just a joke but I strongly doubt we would have dropped 6 more points or more last season to finish 5th or lower)
Pay negotiation is always messy. Henry and Viera left Arsenal after they had given us everything and even at a stage we were looking forward to seeing more of Adebayour and Fabregas. In Nasri's case, this is only drawing sentiments because many feel he still has more to offer.
Agreed! again like I said earlier, if Nasri leaves Arsenal, it won't be because of money. I doubt it if he'l get 90,000pounds from any other club. Not even City.
Which three players? A player who had only played one season in league one? or Sebastian Squillaci? Asides Chamakh, none of the other two was expected to add anything to Arsenal apart from having backups on the bench. If that's ambition, I now understand why others have been bringing out dictionaries to explain the word to you,

There is still loyalty in football, if you look properly you will see it. Kaka turned down a sci-fi proportions megadeal to stay at AC Milan, vP chose to extend his contract and not go to Inter and the likes to repay Arsenal staying by him. Its not all about money and that's my main beef with Nasri.

None of these players were expected to be the first names on the team sheet. Perhaps Chamahk due to VP injury status, but definitely not the previous 2.

proudly9ja:
Nawao, Arsenal don turn people to English Professors. Should we invite Okotie to help us define ambition?

On the Nasri issue, let's leave the guy abeg. As a professional, you want to achieve the best you can in your active years. For sports men, best may mean different things to different people. Best may be money (to save for after service days) and best may be titles (to show off to friends and family).
Some are lucky cos they have both 'bests' - money and titles.

Nasri is right to bargain for higher pay, if Arsenal can't meet his demands (higher pay and/or show of ambition), he will be in his right senses to leave if he wants. I don't want him to leave but what did keeping Cesc for another year achieve for us? Would we have come fourth this season if Cesc had left last season (and we had about 30million extra in the bank)?

Alex Hleb left us and in 3 seasons, he has won over 7 medals. Something he may not have achieved at Arsenal. Same with Henry, Flamini, Toure and I'm not sure if Ade got a the FA cup medal.

Arsenal and Arsene Wenger are not showing ambition to win the league or any other prestigious title for that matter. The only positive ambition we showed last season was in trying to win the Carling Cup and it showed in us getting to the final and minutes away from winning. We deviated away from the norm of using our reserves players in prosecuting the competition, that's ambition. Now we need the boss to do same with the league and deviate from the norm of using 'unfit' players in the league/CL (Squillacci, Koscielny, Denilson, readily come to mind).

Yet again we are here. Nasri is an obviously talented footballer, we need to keep our better players, but on what grounds exactly is he asking to be one of the top earners at Arsenal?

@Mr 4llerbuntu, did you miss the part where it was mentioned he was signed for the reserves. Stop sheeting metal bars abeg.

Oh ok, seen, but can somebody please tell me why he's been announced under 'reserve news' alongside the contract extensions for Afobe etc.

Debo and V3 where did you people see Carl Jeniknson announcement? All I see is the stone-look face of the Verminator.

Get it clear, I'm not into the Nasri is more ambitious than Valencia debate, but I seem to be seeing some things that seems to mean ambitious equals: transfer+bigger club +medal.

On that basis you were making a lot of sense sense until you said Sturridge has not achieved anything by going on loan to Bolton. Winning something with Bolton wasn't on the agenda in the first place. His ambition is to break into the Chelsea first team and to do it he had to go lower. Same as people like Wilshere, they could have chosen to stay and claim 'they are fighting for their place'. Yeah right.

Vela spent a few years loafing about in Arsenal, then everyone said it was because he didnt have opportunities, he refused this same Bolton then eventually he agreed to go to WestBrom, he still didnt make the cut, that shows lack of ambition. Hence, I do agree that what you do when you make the step up (or even down) that counts. But you seem to write off the ambitions of players who knowingly make the step down. Thats why I brought people like Darron Gibson into it. Seeing as he could have been the natural step up to the role of Scholes from within, where was the ambition in going out to improve himself or SAF couldnt spare him? But he has won things, so is he now ambitious?

Oh by the way, I guess Michael Owen is at the biggest he can ever get then. Oh wait, that Ballon D'Or thingy, didnt he beat one guy named Raul to it. Go figure. Ambitious isnt about age my guy. Its about conquering new fronts like you say. Michael Owen is a gambling addicted-lazy-fork!

@Starboard, sorry I had a quick tea break, you were saying?

coogar:
the mind of a gaynner never ceases to amaze me. they never compare like for like.

--michael owen is 29 at the dusk of his career. . . .comparing him to nasri/valencia in their early 20s is laughable
--darron gibson is a reserve player. his contribution to the league title is extremely negligible.
--sturridge opting to leave chelsea is a loan move for an upcoming player. it has nothing to do with nasri/valencia who were signed to get into the first team of their respective clubs.

Comparing who, I'm saying all these silverware, bigger club definitions and analogies of ambitions is mightily flawed.

At 29 I presume Owen is allowed to say 'he'd rather sit on the bench at Old trafford than go play regularly elsewhere'. Wait, its about their ages. Gayner mind: we just cant compare like for like? Ologbeni I hope you know Mr Gibson is same age as Nasri. Oh sorry he is at the dawn of his career, we cant compare. These for you are examples of unambitious champions.

On the other hand, Sturrdige too could have chosen to play a 'negligible' part in Chelsea push, and if his form at Bolton was anything to go buy, he just might have copped a premiership winners medal for that. Yet he knew to get regular games he had to leave, seeing as Chelsea decided to put faith in a big name. Footballwise that is ambition.

Looking to get better where you are now, so you can move to the next stage that fits your improved ability.

A bigger club buying a better player in a lower club is as normal as morning coffee, what's ambitious about that?

Wow, see all these definitions of 'ambitious' flying around. So if you leave small club to join big club it means you are straight up ambitous. Or if you have won more trophies.

Please how ambitious is Michael Owen in that light?

I bet Darron Gibson with more premiership medals is more ambitious than Cesc Fabregas.

Oh wait, Sturridge opting to leave Chelsea to go on loan to Bolton to improve his play time and hence his game is not ambitious.

#Just wondering

coogar:
errors are natural. . . .only reetards miss the tone of the message and go after errors. what you have highlighted have not dented the fact that valencia has more ambitions than nasri and talking about queers at old trafford is a bit rich considering the word "arse" can be found in arsenal and arsene. . . . .and i also remember wenger pushing a vibrating phone in ashley cole's rectum in 2004.

Valencia Sharon, why u dey catch feelings na.  

coogar:
you are a fat fool! what ambitions has nasri got? plucked from obscurity from marseille by a french manager and yet he has nothing to show for his 3 year stint in the english league. valencia got to wigan from recreativo(a club he had single-handedly helped to gain promotion). he spent 3 yrs in wigan and made the big money move to [size=14pt]valencia[/size] and hasn't looked back since then. . . . .from an ordinary winger in [size=14pt]valencia[/size] to the division's best in a matter of months and winning trophies with it - that's ambition.

so nasri moving from marseille to arsenal is what you call ambition? what has he won in that period? nothing! he's so ambitious and he wants to leave that club in the top 4 and regularly in top 8 in europe when he hasn't won nada for them. one can understand henry, vieira, etc for leaving arsenal - they won quite a lot there and they wanted new challenges. . . . .a tactless nasri wants to leave a club he won nothing for and you say he has ambitions. . . . .your intelligence quotient has sunken to a new low. not even jacques cousteau can reach such depths, you ignoramus!

Ambition: An eager or strong desire to achieve something

i ask again. . . .what has nasri achieved?

Okay, we know how you queers guys like to get down at the Old Toilet , but please isnt this d**k riding getting out of hand! Sharon o de calm down!!!!

@Poster:

If e dey piss you off, go wee wee

Vector ooooshe!

@Lateef, how e take dey do you? Silence kini, ur nickname na Lecter? Oya diiiig I yam lizzening. Don't worry, I will pay you £10, you won't have to dig for 5 years.

Haba Debo, this is Lateef we are talking about here o. The £100m-no-transfer-for-5-years-genius.

About Nasri, see there is the problem. Arsenal fans don't know how to pick their heroes. They insult players who were made and and in some instances fiercely loyal to the club, claiming they are only loyal because they aren't good enough for other teams. And go mental about people we had to pay big money to bring here. Then cry foul when they set their eyes elsewhere.

@Debo, when did Nasri earn the right to demand signings in order for him to stay? I have no beef with him oh, I just hate the way he's beginning to make this about money. And Man-forking-U? He needs a new publicist!

Eldigitty, wherefore hast thou been man.

How do you define bonafide then, if they don't have the right to sell the rights to his song as he has claimed here.

The main problem as far as I'm concerned is the hapzard way these guys contracts are structured. And the so many people that end up having some form of rights to a song. From marketer, to show promoter, to the artiste, his own personal label, the bigger distribution label he has a deal with etc etc.

He won't get that much it seems, but you don't ask for the precise amount you want from the onset do you. And he is not suing Nokia X3, he is suing Nokia, the corporation itself.

Coupla new folks coming in it seems. For the price of admission. In nothing less than 500words, please state, discribe and justify your opinion of Denilson, Almunia and Diaby. . .aka Dem Whipping Boiz.

@debo, an important thing folks seem to miss when talking about this aerial, corner whatchacallit is the fact that we are talking percentages here. The reason it is high is cos we allow less chances in open play.

Hangeland/Samba etc etc might be good in clearances but how will they fare when holding a highline, playing it out from the back, recovering when the trap has been beaten. The Hangeland being postulated here is so slow its painful to watch. Hodgson could get away with so many away draws because he had them sitting tite defending deep.

Let everyone keep mentioning their preferred defender. Jus remember after defending dat corner, we still need to put it back on the deck. And the vidic/ferdinand type of defenders who can do both don't come cheap.

@DK, usually don't deals aren't official until july 1. But that's all paperwork sha. Wat I refer to Arsenal who if its possible we won't ever announce a signing.

On the flip side though once the window officially opens contrary to popular opinion, when going for first teamers Arsene wenger does his business very early in the summer.

@Debosky tenhutt, at ease officer. Baba mi abeg na, make una swallow gum keep dis matter under seal na. You no see as dem mention Muki, Dk don quickly show. E ma koba mi o.

@Dudu, baba mi, abeg chop cellotape make u put am on d isssh!! :* Me and Muki dey put am on the under-g. Make all these estrogen infested ni99as no come shank me out of jealousy!

M-to-d-Kizzle too much sizzle. Hawt mama. Jor oh. Lol.

50million, 30million I hope we don't sell Fabregas. Why sell the best midfielder (I'd say player, but some people go just start to dey convulse) in the league if you are trying to win things.

@Debosky my priority will be a DM, substitute for Song or who can relieve Wilshere. Diaby has proven to be too injury prone to be entrusted with both roles at the same time.

Then of course whatever goliath ya'll fancy in defense.

v3:
Same ol'. .keeping things under wrap.

@duduspace n co
Is the Jenkinson deal done yet?

The transfer window does not open until July 1st, no official announcement can be made until then. Except stuff like 'has agreed to join'. . .'captured the signature of' . . . . etc

Renaming an institutional facilty to bear its own name, from the acronyms of a politician is now vendetta? What logic? Can they just arrest that buffo-on already?

Air Commodore Muki,

Shey because I fail to come for morning 'drill' , you have refused to do this name change I am still waiting oh . . . . .

Yours Sins-early,
The poster that should be formerly known as Slimshay


Meanwhile at Debo, Dipo and co. . . . .people seem to forget Kaka refused a move that would have made Ronaldo's transfer look like peanuts. Money may look like the be-all but it isnt everything in transfers. Too bad Arsenal is always talking figures. Oh by the way, when will people start dissing Nasri for holding out for more pay?