₦airaland Forum

anonymous1759:
When the law in a country says they don’t want LGBTQ what’s the offense ? The legislators are representatives of their host communities and that’s what they passed in their house of assembly .

The Supreme Court of a standard democracy ought to find that such a law is unconstitutional because it violates the certain freedoms that are guaranteed to others.

anonymous1759:
Democracy is the tyranny of the majority. The Majority of Africans don’t like LGBTQ simple no one stops LGBTQ ppl to seek asylum else where the west preaches democracy they should allow Africa to be in their stance on LGBTQ.

Wrong. Democracy is based on the rule of law, not the rule of the majority, and it protects against all forms of tyranny, including that of the majority. That is why we have Courts that are empowered to defy the majority by overruling popular but unfair laws.

Israel07:
I was actually enjoying ur dialogue with the guy u quoted till u started deviating n lacing ur statements with sentiments.
Gej didn't do nothing about subsidy till 2014, Tinubu vehemently went against him with his goons cos he knew he could leverage on it to get himself in a position to get power. I don't Tinubu but I know he's intelligent. It takes intelligence, cunning and smartness to be a successful drug dealer and bad ass politician. I'm a very open minded person and I learn even from my enemies and opponents. Tinubu knew very well that GEJ move to remove the subsidy will benefit the people in the long term and the effect is that PDP 'll remain in power if that should happen. It was a selfish move from Tinubu and you saying Tinubu was "merely" a party member is the most foolish statement any reasonable adult Nigerian 'll ever make. On what stance was the "Emi lokan" if he was just merely affiliated to Buhari through party membership. There 'll be no APC without Tinubu. It was his influence that destabilized PDP. Atiku is a very good friend of Tinubu who also helped in destroying PDP from within. Atiku with his goons only went back to PDP when they saw Tinubu intentions albeit too late. BAT enthroned Buhari which was what solidified his influence beyond Lagos.
Him coming back to remove fuel subsidy he fought against simply tells you the kind of person he really is. He's not really done anything worthy of praise yet. I wonder if Nigerians are educated at all sometimes. Subsidy n naira devaluation is actually detrimental to the purchasing power of Naira. And finally what provision did Tinubu make to cushion the effect of the subsidy removal in an even more harsh economic condition than it was in 2014. I wish Nigerians can just drop their emotions aside and embrace logic. Support Tinubu, it is not a crime but u must be very open minded n logical abt it. I support PO and very open minded abt it. No adult should devote blind loyalty to a politician as they all have a common interest which is power. I'm very political myself so I understand how this thing works. Tinubu is a very brilliant politician and makes power moves which I admire much but u must understand that to attain such level you 'll sacrifice morals. Look at the Power move Akpabio made to become a senate president. He knew when to compromise, stayed loyal to Tinubu who he knew he can't go Toe to Toe with by stepping down for him n compare him with Osinbajo who killed his political career by going against Tinubu. A good power player knows never to outshine his master.
PDP had every chance to take power back but selfishness of Atiku and Woke bottled it. Atiku has no business contesting in the first place and Wike felt it should be him and not Peter Obi. If you look within PDP they've produced Presidents from both SW and SS so it was normal to go for SE which would have boosted their chances more, it didn't work, now I feel they could have gone for Atiku again with PO as vice since they didn't like the Idea of Wike being their flag bearer. I also wish PO had compromised by agreeing to be VP but with condition attached that he 'll take over as president eventually. PDP and PO needed each other to win. Look at what Tinubu also did, he went for a Muslim VP. Do u want to tell me he doesn't know that it is not morally right considering the religious climate of Nigeria? This is where I admire him even more, it's all abt making a call for a greater good. You have to know that there's a difference between what's right for you n what's good for you. Instead of y'all learning from this old men y'all choose to fight yourselves over nothing.
I learn from them and 'll make the right compromise to be with them and get closer to power myself. That's how you become leader of tomorrow not all this nonsense y'all do on social media. PO getting that seat back from Tinubu in a country like Nigeria is close to impossible. I know this. This is an extremely corrupt country n it's on this foundation this country thrives.

First of all you need to learn proper forum etiquette. Quoting someone with that huge wall of text, no paragraphs, not to mention being rude in your introductory paragraphs is quite off-putting.

I didn't read through everything you wrote but from all I can see there you have simply buttressed the point I was making.

Essentially, Tinubu's policies are not populist, since they will bring initial hardship for the masses. That's what I was saying. Secondly that when he opposed GEJ's subsidy removal, he was not being genuine to his own policy positions, but was appealing to populist sentiment.

I also mentioned that Tinubu was not a part of the last regime, I did not say he had no relationship with it. I said he had no control of Buhari's decisions.

Cheers.

Cantonese:
No, I did not disagree with the policy of ending subsidy. My complain remains that it should have been allowed to take effect in 2014. By now, Nigerians would have been enjoying the benefits, if the looting politicians would ever allow.

Nigerians, including BAT seem to have been bamboozled in 2014, making them protest and absolutely rejecting the removal. Having suffered the effects in the last eight years, including embezzlements (which I always emphasize), the same BAT, having felt the mood of the people, reverted to it.

Next, the multiplier effect of subsidy removal is already felt, as you can see, with the cost of living. For me, we should expect more increases, with the naira valued presently at 664 and fuel importers who get their forex from the banks, expected to spend more naira for imports. Expect the price of fuel to increase, until the refineries are able to work.

May I ask why the previous regime, part of which BAT was, led Nigeria to such terrible state?

BAT has always supported subsidy removal - even in 2011 when they were harassing Jonathan, he clearly said at that time, that fuel subsidy has to go but the conditions were not ripe for it. Now, that to me indicts his previous pro-subsidy stance as being populist whereas the current anti-subsidy stance is a genuine policy he has always believed in.

But if we're fair, was BAT part of Buhari's regime? Does merely belonging to the same party imply a shared responsibility when you have no control over the man in the seat?

Don't you think this was clearly demonstrated in the naira redesign episode which Tinubu vehemently opposed?

Cantonese:
Certainly they are different things wound up together in putting my conclusion. I am largely concerned about our nation and the quality of leaders that we have. I am concerned about the citizens and the tendencies to support wrong leaders. Even the leaders ask the people to be careful with their choices.

Again in talking about populist policies, I simply drew our attention to events of many years ago, when most of those on this forum were not born.

With the benefit of hindsight, can we say that the present moves of the Federal government are not the same as those of GEJ? People got tired of PMB’s horrible policies and needed a change. Those same policies before PMB are the same they we see today, is it not so? Is it not that government felt the mood of the people and took advantage of it, just like IBB did?

But if you agree that PMB's policies were not good, then why do you disagree with BAT changing them even if its just to assuage the mood of the people?

In any case, I'm not so sure that it is true that BAT's moves have been populist. Removing fuel subsidies, which is the main move he's made, has not been populist at all, since the masses are most inconvenienced by the short term effects.

Harmonizing the exchange regimes is not populist either since to the common man there's really no difference between the new harmonized rates and the old parallel market rate that was accessible to the public.

These policies, when taken together will ensure that fuel prices will certainly stay up and there will be some increase in other associated costs such as food and transportation.

So are these policies populist in real terms?

Okealaaye:
What do you know, boy of Yesterday! You do not know how to read between the lines, taking everything literally.

My apologies dear ancestor, since ive wrongly taken it literally, please enlighten me as to the figurative meaning of your statement.

Cheers.

Cantonese:
How are his policies different from GEJ’s?

When PMB became the Nigerian head of state in Dec 31, 1985, his government introduced policies that were quite harsh on Nigerians. IBB and Sani Abacha removed him from office and quickly introduced populist policies. Nigerians jumped when IBB asked Nigerians their opinion about either an IMF loan or what was called structural adjustment program. Nigerians by preferred SAP and the rest became history. IBB systematically reduced this country to its knees with his bad policies.

One of his policies the was the then second tier foreign exchange market in September 1986. By this policy the naira was devalued and it became an issue up till this day.

The same popular policies are what we see today with fuel and foreign exchange.

Nigerians are in for a very long ride until they choose to elect leaders who they can hold accountable. Our leaders travel to Europe, Asia, USA and see how developed their societies are. They embezzle public funds in Nigeria and take such funds abroad to enjoy decent societies. Blind Nigerians who do not know how societies work support them to continue the embezzlement. Until Nigerians wake up from their slumber, wahala go remain.

Your conclusion does not follow your argument.

You laid the foundation by claiming populist polocies dont work.

You concluded by asserting the need for accountable leadership.

These are completely separate trains of thought.

Adultry is a crime under the penal code which applies up north.

Under the criminal code which applies down south, it is not.

Should it be a crime? No - because it is a civil or private matter that does not concern the society.

finallybusy:
You can go against a contract. That is a crime. Doing so is punishable by law.

Breaking a contract is not a crime and it is not punishable by any law

Okealaaye:
Den of Robbers, that's IPMAN. Ever since the so-called liberalisation of the industry Nigeria and Nigerians have not been the same. When we're growing up, there's nothing like downstream and upstream sectors in the Petroleum industry. These are the appellations the crude oil crooks employ to deceive Nigerians. No government can succeed without walking through NNPC and it's affiliates and NEPA too.

That's global industry terminology not a Nigerian thing. I don't see how it helps to deceive Nigerians in anyway

Acekidc4:
Why will you kill Yourself Over Loan Debt?? Why not Discuss your Problem out, Someone might help. A closed Mouth is a closed Destiny!!Sorosoke Werey!!

You need to realize that most people who commit suicide have underlying challenges.

It may have been debts that pushed him off the edge but that man was probably already depressed.

EyeCumInPiece:
Everybody just avoiding accusing Buhari, who was the Oga On Top & Commander in Chief.

Same way Jonathan was spared. Its a tacit rule ... you dont go after ex presidents in a country like Nigeria

incandescentena:
Lol....was Sarcasms guy...try to dey flow na

Lol one can never be too sure with Nigerians

incandescentena:
Really .....I didn't know that

Just like that you've accepted that this person is telling the truth. Won't you ask further, perhaps for evidence?

Is that how you will now start telling all your friends "I heard Sanwo Olu did this or that" as Nigerians love to do? I'm not even saying it may not be true, but learn to interrogate before you accept.

judatech:
Thought they said they were stranded over there?
So 9ja is so bad...that some people are ready to be stranded in Europe than come back here,even with scholarship

Has nothing to do with naija, after all I'm sure you can see he offered Benin, Mauritius and Ghana.

The simple fact is those boys are criminals who have probably gotten themselves into the web of Nigerian cultists and scammers that infest Cyprus.

They have chosen their path and will get their reward.

DamianDd:
What pissed me off asides from things he said was the fact that he was putting himself down and the family down with his words all because of what other people will think. God! I hate it so much because he's been doing that for years always comparing us to other people, wanting us to behave in a way that won't upset people, to be seen as perfect and likable by everybody and when I realized this fact I start working on myself till this day, i still get that feeling of timidity but I always push through because really who gives a Bleep what people think of me that's why I was so timid when younger that I hated myself. Coming home late was wrong and I told him that yes it's true but those things he was saying is where we had the issue.

When you grow up you will realize that your father may be affected by his own life circumstances; thus, he may be wrong to make you feel conscious of what others may say but you are wrong to resent him for it.

In the words of John Legend:

We’re just ordinary people
We don’t know which way to go
‘Cause we’re ordinary people
Maybe we should take it slow
Take it slow
This time we’ll take it slow
Take it slow
This time we’ll take it slow

Your dad is an ordinary person too. Take it slow with him.

TemplarLandry:
Now it's clear they've been benefiting from the discrepancies of our economic system.

Every Nigerian lost a certain percentage of their net worth following the devaluation. It's just basic - your naira wealth would have been calculated using the official rate of 460 thereaouts - now that that rate is gone, your naira denominated wealth will be evaluated at about 750 to the dollar.

XtraFortunes:
Nigeria is not one and can never be one. That is why you still hear the word one Nigeria decades after the civil war.

Have you ever heard any USA citizen saying one America or one USA? Did they not fight a civil war there too?

Buhari and the APC have divided this nation more than ever before and what they have done will sadly continue to be re echoed for generations to come

Don't comment on things you are not aware of. The US is struggling with worse division than Nigeria with many strong calls for secession including from some congress members. That's like a senator going to the national assembly to support IPOB. Can that happen here?

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
Nice one
What is wrong with the Nigeria youth

If you see the violent insult I dey receive here just because am not a supporter of this administration

But one thing they are not aware is that ain't scared because am a real niggar and I will continue to criticise this administration

If not that this place is a faceless forum...the number of people way police for don arrest for too many because worse people are here on nairaland

But you're a scammer by profession; wouldn't you be among the first to be picked up?

xristos:
Ok lesson teacher ...

Had respect for this guy.. until he blocked me on twitter because i told him to talk less about Obi's personal life .. sameway he doesn't want people to talk about his daughter

Otondo

You needed to be blocked and even physically caned for thinking that discussing a public figure is the same as bringing an innocent child into mockery.

Ihateheadslamer:
You ever wondered why Dangote is richer than Buhari and all of the past and present Nigeria leaders

Because he is a business man from a wealthy family.

ogaontop:
Make them fish out the identity of Kidnappers and terrorists that make phone calls with registered sims first, not to talk of sms that can easily be bypassed by technology

Fishing out kidnappers' identities is not the issue. Going to the bush to arrest them is.

Yankiss:
Why are people still able to threaten others anonymously with phone despite SIM registration using NIN? Why are terrorists still operating lines but not possible to be identified with the lines? What is the use of National Identity Number being linked to phone details?

I'm sure if you read you will see that cerrain persons have been have been directed to produce the identities of the culprits.

Go to the pharmacy and seek attention. But the major issue you have is that the bacteria that causes this is being incubated on your pillow. So you are being reinfected over and over

I'm 50% sure Kingsley Moghalu will be on the team.

BloomingDale:
So that newspaper was right afterall. Thunder fire Tinubu, fire CBN, fire Emefiele and fire that new Yoruba head.

No the paper was not right. At the time of writing there was no sucg move even though Tinubu jas always said he would do it.

Mordecai:


Where are the paid propagandists on NL?

Please explain to us in simple terms how this law will create any jobs. How any sort of enterpreneurial pursuit will result from it.

We are listening.

I mean is it not stated in the article? My friend posting this emoji doesn't mean you've said something smart.

Especially when the answer to your question is staring you in the face

gbagyiza:
How r u sure say na 4000 people. Do you have the true statistics or you r just taking him by his words.

Just taking him by his words

Diligent1:
The marketers want government to scrap NNPCL, I am not sure sha

That's not what the write up says and no marketer would ask for that anyway. It is not possible.

If CBN is truly floating the naira as we heard, then there is no story here.

JasonScoolari:
Though I commend him for helping youths, Atleast, he's better than some moronnic politicians giving their supporters only polo, cap and a miserable loaf of bread during campaigns.... It's not easy.

But I don't get why it's always when something or someone trends for whatever reason on the internet, that's when he comes out to show his philanthropic life.

Don't get me wrong, but that's what I noticed about him.

God bless him and others doing likewise silently.

According to him, he has 4000 people on scholarship. You would only know of the ones that trended for the very fact that they trended...but clearly 4000 people have not trended in past 4 years.

N3TRAL:
She's not lying.

She employed professionals from PR firms, medics, assistants + cost of production. She even signed a deal with a top tier law firm to handle legal matters.

Hilda worked with the best brains available. There was no how she would fail. I give her credit for being able to assemble a distinguished team.

For 80 million? Give us the break down.