₦airaland Forum

Toks2008:
Please stop making a fool of yourself.

If what I said does not make sense to you, that is a terrible indictment on your ability to comprehend.

EmekaBlue:
Relax...its not really about the cultism activities but the Money and Connection it brings, or didn't u read where they say involved in prostitution and drug trafficking...if u even read well u will see he even drives a Ferari

Which Ferrari?

Better read again "

Gobengroup:
why are you like this, it's clear the army went there and kill peaceful protesters

It is clear how?

I am a tired Nigerian like you. I want to believe you... So show me what makes it clear.

openmine:

See how you are fruitlessly and hilariously defending those rogues as if you have a stake in their empire!
You read it in simple English language that they DID NOT OPEN FIRE ON THE PROTESTERS....in simple terms,WE DID NOT SHOOT AT THEM!
Simple English language.....unless you want to be evasive,which will make you sound unintelligent!

But on this same news,Its apparent that they shot at the protesters,hence to cover up such acts,they claim they fired blank ammunition...!

But....
Did they fire or shot at protesters...yes or no?
Did they claim before now that they never fired or open fire or shoot at protesters yes or no?
Did they initially claim they were not at lekki and that the video footage of their presence in lekki was photo shopped...yes or no?

Please next time concoct a decent defence for the army because this one up there is dead on arrival!

Lol... So truly you don't know that shooting and shooting at someone are not the same?

If you shoot in the air have you shot at anyone?

donnie:
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Mr. educated dunce... you're eager to partake of the sin of those murderous devils because of selfish interests. Go ahead

And what are these selfishl interests?

Be there correcting typos.

openmine:
https://www.nairaland.com/6210478/governor-sanwo-olu-invited-us-intervene

BREAKING: Army denies shooting #EndSARS protesters

The 81 Division of the Nigerian Army (NA) has denied allegation soldiers opened fire on #ENDSARS protesters at the Lekki Toll Plaza last Tuesday.

In a statement by the Acting Director Army Public Relations (ADPR), Major Osoba Olaniyi, the Division however confirmed the involvement of soldiers in restoring order in Lagos following the declaration of curfew by Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu.

The Nation reports this is the first time the division is speaking about the incident that occurred last week.

It said: “The attention of Headquarters 81 Division Nigerian Army has been drawn to a viral video on social media in which it was alleged that civilian protesters were massacred by soldiers at Lekki Toll Plaza. This allegation is untrue, unfounded and aimed at causing anarchy in the country.

“At no time did soldiers of the Nigerian Army open fire on any civilian. From the onset of the ENDSARS protest, there was no time personnel of 81 Division Nigerian Army Lagos were involved.

So you don't think there is a big difference between saying we did not shoot at anyone and saying we did not shoot?

Don't you think that we did not shoot at anyone and saying we fired blanks is saying the same thing since you cannot shoot a blank at anyone?

Unlike the narrative you trying to promote?

donnie:
Stupid thing. So if you fire live bullets in the dark, there'll be no sparks? The blood of those killed will visit your family with the same type of blanks soldiers used.

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I can't get offended with you because it's is not your fault. You are just responding based on your level of education and exposure.

Now what you need to know it is that the explosion is not the same, it is way more powerful and will not emotionally those weak sparks that we're seen in the videos.

Bevista:
First, they said - WE WERE NOT THERE.
Then, later, they said - WE WERE THERE, BUT WE DIDN'T SHOOT.
Now, it's - WE SHOT, BUT WE ONLY SHOT BLANK AMMOS
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Next, we'll hear - WE SHOT LIVE AMMOS, BUT WE ONLY SHOT THEM IN THE AIR.

Na wa o. You see how you people invent false narratives? When was this said?

I said it from day one.

The explosions from those guns resembled foreworks so it was clear they were firing blanks.

jude79:
Sanwolu; I did not order for the massacre
Army: we were not there.
Sanwolu: it was the army
Army: we were there, but did not fire
Tinubu's son : sanwolu ordered us to remove cameras
Tinubu: I don't know anything about the lekki tollgate, I'm not the government
Army: sanwolu ordered us to lekki tollgate.
Fashola:. Haha, I'm the camera detector, ah!!! I just found a hidden camera.
Army: we used blank bullets.
We the people: we are not in a hurry, una go vomit the truth.

Just making things up. No cameras were removed.

Nbotee:
Y are u ppl jus talking from every corner of ur mouth... First d Army was neva there.. And then d army was there but dey didn't open fire and now dey fired but used blanks?

When was this said?

Foolishbuhari:
You understand this. This na war for the soul of our nation but people no know.

You'd see policemen on the road and even without any incriminating items on you, your heart would skip a beat simply because you're at their mercy and they could simply lay allegations on you or shoot you if they felt like and nothing would happen. That has to stop!

Well for now, a breakthrough has been made. Good faith demands that you wait and see if there are any genuine changes.

RedPhoenix:
Kasala

Can you hire someone or make someone an offer to oversee your business while you inspect at the close of work each day, so you work and earn a salary and you can channel the salaries towards the growth, development and establishment of the business. This is how the veterans do it. Cause along the line you'll need scarce financial resources essential to have your business established

This could work with strong inventory control.

CID11:
My friend, they are not Nigerian police force who gets information by torture. There are now technology, used to catch criminals

Amnesty International has some special technology used to catch criminals? Oh really?

Do tell me more.

BTW let me just help you avoid unnecessary mental athletics. Amnesty has already said it got its info from the same eyewitnesses that everyone is relying on.

No such tech.

Foolishbuhari:
Me inclusive of course. No single sympathy for any popo

Well, fair play to you as all is fair in war.

CodeTemplar:
. . . I go with AI here and not some paid propagandist. Why were they shot at in the first place? Who ordered it? Who are the soldiers involved? AI seem to be answering more question than those who run the country and are doing it far more intelligently. They used solid evidences to plot what happened unlike those who asked the killer soldiers to narrate what happened to them.

Start with:

1. Were they really shot at?
2. Who exactly was shot among those who were shot at?

dont forget to add:

3. Where is Amnesty getting its information and evidence?

Foolishbuhari:
Protest was peaceful even with aggression meted out on them by the police and paid thugs. It was all still peaceful and people restrained themselves until your bastard president ordered the murder in cold blood of citizens whose only defense was the Nigerian flag!

[b]These [/b]are the monsters they made. Now it's blood for blood and I will see how those bastards in black will keep up

You inclusive or other people's children?

Charmingrascal:
When a man is bitten by a dog, it is not a big deal but when a man bites a dog it becomes a fuss.


Police have been killing innocent Nigerians, they seize and destroy their properties and nothing has happened over the years.


People who lost their loved ones to Police brutality have cried on several occasions and nothing has happened, few of the Officers have been allegedly brought to book (even though we know it is mere eye service and lies) no Police was publicly prosecuted for their assault on innocent citizens.


Now their men died and properties destroyed they are lamenting.

They have not seen anything yet if they don't desist from their brutality and maiming of innocent citizens it's a matter of time before the second wave of attack which might likely be deadlier and bloody on both sides than what we earlier had, because even their families won't be spared.

Are these the peaceful protesters?

wonder233:
The various interests groups in the end SARS saga:

1. A corrupt government eager to maintain the status quo. A status quo that allows them unfettered access to plunder the national wealth for them and their families.

2. Foreign Arms dealers to whose interests it will be for us to be at war. They are powerful and highly skilled lobbyists and propagandists. They study vulnerable societies and exploit their fault lines to advantage. They partner with willing politicians and influencers to put out content to sway public opinion.

3. A largely vacuous youthful public, who though educated are incapable of thinking for themselves - reason the "influencers" are in business in the first place.

The government realized this late and are making a poor attempt at catch-up (the fashola camera et al).

A minute segment of us are neither for the government nor the "protesters". We think for ourselves and analyze every occurrence on their individual merits.
We support peaceful protests for specific realistic demands, but won't let anyone brainwash us into a utopian bandwagon for their selfish interests.

There was no massacre and there was no camera.

Honestly seeing how few and far between the objective ones are, I don't believe in Nigeria again.

The current leadership, I need not speak anything about them, but the masses of the youth have shown themselves to be shockingly incapable of leadership. Highly emotional and resistant to logic any logic that does not fit their narrative.

felzokugo:
this should b one of dem...paid elements.

Lol.

jlinkd78:
They didn't only kill unarmed protesters but prevented d injured from receiving emergency attention the ambulance was to provide. The Army can't escape the consequences of their unprofessional actions and their barefaced lies to the people from denying ever being mobilized to Lekki to changing the narrative that they were there but on invitation of d governor cos of curfew. The Army forgot that as at d time this attacks were carried out d curfew has already been reviewed upward to commence from 9pm so their curfew argument baseless. We hope d international community keep putting pressure to unmask these unknown soldiers

So are you arguing that the army came their solely to kill protesters?

isaiah4life:
when you want to apply for a graduate trainee position as a fresh graduate and they post age limit 22-23 then you will thank parents for rushing their kids.

That may be an incidental consideration but is not likely the reason for this trend.

The likely reason is simply that Nigerians love to compete and to most, the younger one's kids are in school and out of it, the smarter they appear to be, and the more points the parent has with which to boast in the next family gathering.

bolaayenimo:
All Jonathan's people who they described as clueless are doing big on the world stage

Ngozi Okonjo Iweala was never indicted in the terrible things that are alleged to have happened under Jonathan.

I am interested in knowing who the others are that are doing well.

Ennyhorlar:
This wasn’t trended on any social media, this was posted on Facebook.

And only few people take Facebook posts serious

Facebook is not social media?

lexy2014:
Even if it's along with d governor of Lagos and Lagos& ogun share a common border, what is d significance of d lekki incident to ogun state that warrants d governor leaving his state on d night of d incident to go around checking mortuaries? Has d Lagos State governor run out of staff?

The severity of the matter justifies it. I can't understand why you keep insisting that the governor of Lagos has staff. Had he sent his staff instead won't you have criticized him for not caring?

Obviously the two governors share a good relationship and he was there as an escort.

lexy2014:
So a sitting governor left his state to come and "tour" mortuaries at lekki, ikoyi and island on behalf of d governor of Lagos state

Along with the governor of Lagos not on behalf of. Given the proximity of Lagos and Ogon states, and the severity of the matter, perfectly understandable.

What's your issue?

lexy2014:
Pls read again. He didn't say anything about tour.


“That night, we started going round to all the hospitals around Lekki, Ikoyi and the Island; we went to all the morgues; called for people who have missing corpse to come and report."

D sitting governor of a state left his state to help d governor of another state to inspect mortuary. Is he now a staff of d governor of Lagos State?

Lol... What is your understanding of the word tour? Somebody said he went round all the hospitals on Lekki, Ikoyi and the Island and you arguing that he didn't use the word tour?

Bar1941:
How did you know Mr Aproko? Have you relocated your state secretariat to Lekki? Some times these people need to just keep quiet rather than provoking the people unnecessarily.

Why not read and see that he joined Governor Sanwo Olu on this tour?

Unik3030:
arise tv caused all these problems n if I were to b one of d major stakeholders in access we will sue Dem.
they gave the news that snippers are on top of access bank n protesters went to burn d place.


I won't b surprised if the owner have a hidden agenda cos he's igbo

Just imagine...which snipers?

Honestly if the affected bank sues them they may go out of business coz the damages will be huge.

Mayniaa:
In the morning during the interview he said no fatal causalities only mild injuries, can mild injuries lead to death? I thought you are smart, can't you see the inconsistency? Chai, peanuts don block your brain

Who and who is buhari referring to?

You have not repented of this folly? I had consigned you to perpetually be ignored Hut for the sake of those Nigerian youth who will read this your post in udeducated fervour I must dispel your misinformation.

In his initial report he clearly said that 2 people had critical injuries and required operations.

He subsequently updated that one had passed.

And updated again that there was a second victim of blunt force trauma.

crestedaguiyi:
mtchew.

working for a bad company makes you a bad person

working for a clueless boss makes you a clueless person

working for a genocidist makes you a genocidist

i no accuse any body o

lie lie pastor i hail o.

wetin you dey wait to condemn the state governors that hid the masses palliative. That is not part of your job i guess. evidence of cluelessness

What kind of logic is this?

Moferere:
It is against military rules of engagement

Thats for the soldier to worry about, not the journalist.

And please rules of engagement relate to the grounds upon a soldier is justified in firing his weapon.