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illicit:
Reminds me of the prophet Noah....

When last did you read your Bible?

FuckThaMod:
Na so England rush and used tammy abraham for just 30 seconds, now he is been dumped. Then they rushed and used bukayo, he'll soon be dumped. Dele alli has been dumped already. Once Nigeria don dey chook eye them go call the player up.
I pity people that thinks Britain means well for Nigeria

That's the name of the game.

Farki:
He might play more here but then he might like staying in England more. His choice in the end.

Don't know why people don't see this. These players are all aware of the risks of choosing England in terms of playing time, but for some that may be a dream that may make the risk worthwhile.

sapientia:
The police Bosses cannot do without a money making Unit.

Nothing will be different between them and SARS.

SARS that was trained by UK police turned out a mess more of this hurriedly packaged group.

Never seen a situation where a security unit is hurriedly put up and training started immediately unless its an active conventional war time.

When did they have the time to carefully articulate a training doctrine based real events happening on ground?

Very insensitive people.

A nation still using police stations built in 80s

These are not civilians recruited off the street. They are already police officers with training and years of experience.

Now that SARS has been disbanded, who should tackle violent crime? Is it not the police?

These are the same ones who would have done it. The difference is now at least they are being given some extra training.

What more do you want?

pocohantas:
When I saw him being dragged, I also wondered if he killed someone. A particular IG blog was even trying to silence him with pictures of his babymamas- can you beat that? I really do hate cheats, but I couldn’t find the correlation between his speech, the insults on his person and digging into his private life.

Anyway, it is the new trend on social media- they never take their time to process information. Here on NL, once the first few commenters post in one direction, it would take a really brave person to face another direction. Trust me, some know the noise wasn’t worth it, but they are scared of being e-lynched by our recent hyperactive online Martin Luthers.

Precisely. You even see them repeating certain phrases used by these posters.

calberian:
The fact of the matter is this:

The army claims that they were called upon to restore order and, [/i]more importantly manage the curfew[i] (italicised emphasis mine) but I posit that the reverse was the case:

The curfew was introduced to manage the impending advent of a military exercise at lekki which, believe what you may, was admittedly beyond the powers of the governor.

This is so because, if the main instruction was to restore and maintain order, they’d have been deployed to locations where incidents of violence from civil unrest had been recorded. There’s no need to list them.

The Lekki toll gate never recorded any such incidence until the evening of Tuesday, October 20, 2020. The objective at Lekki could not have been to restore order because no such intervention was needed. Protesting at the toll gate or any other public location was fully within the ambits of the rights of the protesters so there were no grounds for such a move. Nothing was scratched, let alone damaged at that toll gate. Infact, there seemed to be a team saddled with the responsibility of managing the integrity of the toll plaza and evidently, their performance was stellar. So, application of such level of force at that place however, was most befuddling.

I’ll just say this to whom it may concern:
You can fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time however, you can NEVER fool all of the people all of the time.

That is a logical submission worthy of some thought.

Racoon:
This is false assertion by the lying army.All these cascade of events were the aftermath effects of the army involvement in the Lekki shootings.Abeg make una dey lie with sense.A fact is the army have not portends itself as a credible organisation with lying all the way as far as this issue is concern.

Seems you didn't follow the news well then.

On that particular day so many attacks had already taken place around Lagos, and these are available in the public domain.

ezenwaforj:
Nothing will come out of it .We don't have a credible judicial system in Nigeria

I can hint you that the goal is not for the Nigerian Legal system to provide a remedy. I am certain that the goal is to take this matter tot the African Commission on Human and People's Rights.

That is where SERAP and Media Rights Agenda do most of their work.

OfficialAwol:
Lol. But when they hear somebody who was claimed to have died in Lekki has spoken up, boom, you see them foaming in the mouth.

Logically what is there to comment on here?

Even you have not commented on the topic.

Let's apply more reason.

starbuck:
Like i said earlier, I am not trying to be pessimistic, the old people you still see in this era, are they not our parents and grandparents

Lol... What is this one saying... Our generation obviously cannot have attained 90 so if the trend is still observable as recently as our grandparents and parents, then there is no reason to suggest a change.

superior1:
When the panel summons, it’s the Gov doing so

The Lagos Govt authority has been vested on the panel over this matter

Yeye army

But the army does not even answer to the Lagos State government. The army is entirely under the control of the federal executive and everyone knows that.

emmyN:
How does a professional shoot without intention to kill but at dangerous angle? That's a laughable submission. Both the soldiers and police present there that night were following the same orders. If the police did a deliberate kill, the soldiers definitely did too.

Just a slight alteration in the angle of fire can have exponentially different impacts. If a gun is fired directly upwards, the bullet is harmless but just a few degree of variation even less than 45 degrees can render that bullet dangerous enough to inflict injury but not to kill.

That's what the evidence points to with respect to the soldiers who shot at Lekki.

It's rather disappointing that the army could use live bullets in such a careless manner.

I have continually rejected the narrative of the Lekki massacre, which is of course, at least in my opinion, based on hearsay and exaggeration.

I believe that the soldiers fired in the air not intending to kill but did so at a dangerous angle and still need to be held accountable for this.

Meanwhile the truth is that the police did more deliberate killing on that day.

lexy2014:
If there's a building that is designated as a classroom, it's still a classroom whether functional or otherwise, until it is put to other use. If a building was designated to serve as a morgue, it is still a morgue. It's non functionality doesn't deprive it of it's designated status. It's like saying a car isn't a car because it's non functional.

According to u:
"By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?"

U tell me. It's u who said d hospital was under renovation.

So now ur story is changing from d non existence of a morgue to a building exist that used to function as a morgue but no longer does.

Young man I don't think I have time to do this with you all day.

1. If there is a building that is designated a classroom and then is no longer designated a classroom, perhaps because it is no longer fit for purpose, then it is simply not a classroom. This requires no debate. As to your car analogy, the proper analogy is car is to building as taxi is to morgue. So while a car is always a car, if you stop using it as a taxi it is a car but not a taxi. Similarly, a building can be used as a morgue until you stop using it as such. There is little room for argument here so I don't know what your problem is.


2. Secondly, once again, you refuse to be straightforward.

I started by pointing out to you two alternative explanations for why IDH does not have a morgue. You chose to run down the rabbit hole with the second one and now you are turning around to claim that I am changing positioning when right from the get go i posited that there were multiple possible explanations. If you have a short attention span don't think I do.

For the third and final time, I don't know why IDH does not have a morgue. As to why it is possible that they do not have one,
a. This is Nigeria where too many things are not as should be
b. It is stated that the place is under renovation which could mean there is a non functional morgue space to be renovated.

We do not need to agree so I am not pursuing this with you any further.

lexy2014:
For d fact that something is "totally degraded", does it mean that d thing isn't present? Does "totally degraded" mean d same thing as non existent? Was d hospital that u say was "under renovation" "totally degraded"?

Yes to the first question. The status of a functional unit like a morgue is determined by use and not by the existence of the building on its own. The building can be there but if it is not being used then the morgue does not exist.


By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?

In this case when they say there is no morgue they are not necessarily saying there is no building that used to be the morgue or that there is no space allocated for it.

They are simply saying there is currently no place that is designated and functioning as the morgue.

lexy2014:
Does renovation mean that certain things in d hospital aren't present or that they are present but being upgraded?

It could mean they are totally degraded and in need of an upgrade and have not yet received it. Hence...the need for the renovation.

lexy2014:
It is on d strength of what I read that I responded to u. Or didn't u read what u wrote?

Sir I said the hospital is/was under renovation and you should make of that what you will.

Logically:

The hospital is not/has not been in good condition and therefore should not be expected to be in the normal state of a fully functional hospital.

That, I expected, would lead you to conclude that you should not find it surprising if some things which ought to be present are not present.

lexy2014:
Oga spare me d personal attacks. It doesn't change d fact that u shot urself in d foot. What were u referring when u mentioned "under renovation"?

Go back and read. I didn't type in French.

lexy2014:
So u are more straightforward and u are contradicting urself? Am d one who asked u to write that d hospitals morgue is under renovation? U are a victim of ur own words. Don't blame me for entangling urself and shooting urself in d foot. Take responsibility for ur actions. If u didn't want me to scrutinize ur comment, u shouldn't have written it

I'm convinced you are sleep typing. Or like I said, you simply are not a straightforward person.


Where did I mention the hospital's morgue?

lexy2014:
Is "Under renovation" d same thing as it doesn't have? What exactly are u defending?

So you left the body of my text to reply to the very last sentence... why?

Is it not obvious that the main message is what precedes?

try to be straightforward in your dealings sir.

lexy2014:
Where did u answer that u don't know that u are asking "haven't I answered"?

Its not rocket science to no that a hospital that size should have a morgue. That hospital shouldn't have anything less than 200beds conservatively speaking. A big hospital like that has d capacity to treat more patients based on it's size, both walk in patients or those on admission. In course doing this, it's going to record deaths especially for those on admission. Where will it keep d corpses? Even d military hospital in Benin which is much smaller, has a morgue. Y would this one with a bigger size not have a morgue?

Massa:

SmartyPants:
I don't know mate. But if you insist it does, where is the evidence?

There could be any number of answers to your question which seem rather intuitive. One, this is Nigeria where so much is not the way it ought to be. your question is like asking why a big country like Nigeria does not have power supply.

I'm sure i also saw that the place is under renovation so make of that what you will.

misano:
U don't even understand what I said. Ha! dat shows U're not even half as intelligent as I taught.

Lol.

Or you don't even see the irony in what you wrote. But then, you wouldn't!

lexy2014:
I haven't insisted on anything. I asked a simple question.

how can a hospital as big as d military hospital in ikoyi not have a mortuary?

Haven't I answered? I don't know.

Why must it have a mortuary just because it is big?

Beverlyjean:
U and ur goons will b put to shame very soon... i hope u dont runaway from NL when the trurh prevails...

TRUTH IS LIKE PREGNANCY...NO MATTER HOW MUCH U DENY IT, IT WILL STILL SHOW IN THE END

It's actually showing already dear. You just don't want to accept it.

lexy2014:
Off point. Answer d question:

how can a hospital as big as d military hospital in ikoyi not have a mortuary?

I don't know mate. But if you insist it does, where is the evidence?

lexy2014:
Oga, how can a hospital as big as d military hospital in ikoyi not have a mortuary? Do u even no what u are saying?

Why not go there and take pics na

misano:
Sorry Nigerians are not fools. U can fool some people all the time but U can't fool all the people all the time.

Lol.

So Nigerians are not fools except some time?

Mokason288:
I’m telling you... from you can’t come in because we don’t know you were coming to no mortuary... I HATE Nigeria , I HATE Buhari

Lol.

And how do these conflict?

It is normal army protocol to regulate entry and the visitors were allowed in after mere 30 minutes upon clearance from superiors.

It is the panel who are now reporting that there is no morgue.


What's your issue?

membranus:
You will only see what you want to see.

The evidences are everywhere, some of the concerned families have been crying out, and the medias have been publishing these for all to see.

But YOU only want to see and believe lies, because you have been appointed agent of misinformation, that's why you are here flexing your lung to defend lies.

Continue believing your lies and deception.

But we that know the TRUTH will stick to IT.

Oh really? You are the objective one abi? Lol.

Continue.

strangest:
How many have spoken since the shiites incidence? You need brain

You are comparing stark literates of a reclusive sect, who have actually protested severally, with the highly literally and social media savvy population of the south and feeling smart. Lol!

Sanchez01:
1. Soldiers truly shot at protesters and people were killed.
2. Soldiers carted away bodies that night (There are video evidences of soldiers freely walking into the midst of protesters to take away bodies).
3. We all watched how someone died during the live session of DJ Switch after being hit by a bullet.
4. Bullet shell casings were also found the next day.
5. Several were wounded and rushed to the hospital.
6. Sanwo-Olu initially said no one died but later came around to say only two persons were confirmed dead. (What killed them?).
7. The military denied ever been at the Lekki toll gate that night. As a matter of fact, they planted badges and ranks on the scene after they left.
8. If families aren't coming out, it is because they are either scared or not living close to the dead victims to even suspect they went to protest.
9. Several missing person cases took over Twitter 3 days after the Lekki onslaught and families were directed to several hospitals which took in these victims.

There is no denying that the Nigerian Army, through the soldiers, took away bodies that night, possible to reduce the outrage of the military killing unarmed protesters in modern age.

What's worse is that the event of that was premeditated and carefully executed. First, they took out cameras, then cut off power around the area to prevent people from recording their atrocities. We all saw videos of on and off the scene of that night.

Anyone with a straight head knows there is a massive cover-up attempt by the government. People were shot at; people were killed and soldiers took bodies away that night.

So you mean of all the victims, an entire two dozen or more, there cannot be found one single relative to speak? Not one?

Are you normal?

We saw videos of shootings, Lagos government has confirmed shootings, the army has confirmed shootings.

The discovery of bullet casings is therefore not news.

What we need to know are:

1. Where those bullets blanks or live?
2. Was anyone shot or were bullets merely fired in the air?

Toks2008:
You are still making a fool of yourself.

First and foremost go and look up the meaning of shoot.

Secondly a blank bullet can kill or inflict serious injury but the stupidity of the Nigerian army makes them very ignorant of this so please dont share in their folly.

Happy weekend.

You know the only reason I engage you is because you are one of the posters I have respected small over many years.

Sadly you are talking trash and you are doing so authoritatively.

A blank cartridge is a shell that contains gunpowder alone with no bullet. For you to argue otherwise is, like i said, an indictment on intellect.

Do better!