₦airaland Forum

Moferere:
Because this soldier is army spokesperson

This is lazy journalism. If you want to get information about the Nigerian Army, contact their spokesman

On the contrary, instead of going to the spokesperson for the usual polished lines, he went the extra mile to speak to someone on the ground. That is what is considered good journalism.

goatandyam:
Which means you have the power/connection to request for soldiers or police to do your bidding if you want.

Which now means you also have the power/connection to invite the soldiers for the lekki shootings if you want.

Good one

That Tinunbu is a powerful man is well established. Not sure what point you think you are proving

SoBright101:
I hate when government ask youths to come negotiate. Negotiate what? Do anyone has to negotiate about good governance? All we are saying is make Nigeria habitable for everyone not only the political class and their family.

Beware Nigerians. This is the time to know and understand the true identity of those who cause tribalism on here, they are paid agents, they are neither from east or west. They have more than twenty accounts, they would create tribal topics and make tribal comments with another accounts to cause chaos between southerners. Though, they have no conscience but you can try to educate them or better ignore them. They are easy to identify, use your head brothers.

[b]Also Be aware that tactics and plans has been deployed to cover up the massacre since all their efforts to break southern unity were not fruitful. They have created a lot of Facebook and Twitter accounts with Yoruba or Igbo names for this purpose, one of them is to post pictures or video of people who debunked being killed, those pictures were scripted and earlier been circulated for this purpose. They would discredit real occurrence and give it another title and narratives. [/b]Beware of the propaganda

They dominates this platform, they are agents of destruction. They operates mostly in the midnight.

lol!!

Why not post the real pics then?

sureway1:
like seriously.. does it mean arise tv played edited videos clips that night?
i didn't see any dead body in the video, but if you tell me that there were dead bodies.. i won't argue with with you. in fact an intelligent person does not need to be told that people died after watching those clips..

my advice to those saying nobody died.
when there's an event of this kind please watch the news, it will save you from a lot of argument that will make you look/sound foolish.

lol...are you sure you are intelligent? or you simply hope so?

If you say intelligence would lead on to conclude that people died, that is an assertion which you are yet to back with reasoning.

I'm eager to hear it.

Rhapsodia:
Okay


Oya BMC food don land....take over....

Shey lekki massacre didn't happen ahbi

Massa for crying out loud, Gov. Sanwo Olu has confirmed that two people died in the period of time without telling us who they were or confirming how they died. So that one person is speaking up now does not necessarily support a contrary narrative.

That said, it is good that she has spoken up, and we hope that the families of all the departed will do the same.

I know you are not trying to convince us that out of thousands present one person was "massacred".

AIIyIic:
Even though i disagree with you, i like your analysis. Yes, we know the army fired bullets. Whether fired into the air or aimed at people, the truth is both are lethal. Just do a little bit of goggling and tell me what you see. Of course, people will hype and overflog the points just to make it really ridiculous, but in anyway, people were hit. Injuries occurred, as a result of bullets and definitely, you don't expect everyone to survive.

Now concerning a lot of lies that you mentioned. The truth is that even the government sef dey lie.

Didn't the army deny ever been there?

Thats a reasonable take. I know there is a chance of injury depending on the angle at which the gun is fired and I want to reconcile both sides by believing that this is what may have happened.

I have seen some videos of injured people which do seem like gunshot wounds.

OfficialAwol:
I like it when I hear the word "reason".

You she the observation you made, I did too.

I'm more reasonable than emotional.

In the clip available to the public, the soldiers clearly shot up in the air.

But ask yourself, what happened after the clip ended?

Did they continue shooting upwards or did they point their guns downwards at a time?

Now what do you make of the eyewitness account of what happened?

That's the big question. I choose to believe that they did not because I believe that we have a professional army and that the soldiers had no motivation to kill people unless ordered to do so, but then such am order would have been ostensibly, political suicide.

That said, I'm not going to dig in my heels and deny the possibility that they did shoot at the protesters. I just need believable evidence.

Now, there are several people who claim they were eyewitnesses but unfortunately we have seen so many of them discredited already.

All the images of people who supposedly died who turned out not to be dead, would cause a reasonable person to pause and ask, why so many lies?

If the incident really happened why would anyone need to fabricate proof? So as is, there is some undetermined reason why some people are actually spreading lies and that would cause a reasonable man to doubt any further eyewitness account until it is corroborated.

At this stage we need to see bodies, or hear from a person who was shot and survived with evidence.

I'm also willing too accept that people were shot accidentally, but that the Army deliberately targeted and shot at the crowd, I find hard to accept.

If they wanted to kill people then certainly they did a bad job!!

Midas01:
You're a mad man. God will punish you and every stupid person like you that's trying to deny the lekki incidence.

I understand. You lack the capacity to reason at a certain level so those who do so appear mad to you.

Not your fault, Nigerian education failed you.

OfficialAwol:
By saying you do not dispute the presence of Nigerian soldiers at the scene, and that you do not dispute them firing at protesters, do you therefore admit that the Nigerian army lied when it dismissed reports of them being at Lekki as "Fake News"?

Secondly, do also therefore, admit that the videos of the soldiers shooting at protesters were not "photoshopped", "doctored" and "dubbed" as claimed by your Fulani army?

Lets reason for a mintue.

I for one, from the first minute I saw those videos, repeatedly remarked that the soldiers were firing into the air and not at protesters.

That is the narrative that is being questioned.

The soldiers were clearly there. That they fired is not in doubt.

That they fired at anyone is where the doubt lies, and so far there is still no evidence. Because even this person who is claiming to have conducted forensic examination affirms that the soldiers were firing upwards.

mustafaa:
Please stop blaming the North. We are not your problems. Hold your leaders accountable. Overnight success dey purge. Yahoo Yahoo, money ritual, armed robbery, ashawo etc, dey purge.

Change begins with you.

The North doesn't receive the most allocation. In fact, y'all tagged us illiterate and underdeveloped. But look at what's happening in the south today, everyone is on a looting spree. Then you wonder why you don't live in peace with SARS?

Change yourselves, my brothers. Humanity first before anything else.

Ask your Fulani brothers to stop wreaking havoc on innocents first!

ePoster:
Fool! Counter the post with reason... You all wanted an eyewitness account, here you go.

Who asked for an eyewitness account?

Another nameless, faceless "eyewitness"?

Logical people are simply asking for incontrovertible evidence, the kind that would hold up to scrutiny in a court of law.

We've heard these stories before. Thanks, now provide evidence!

Farki:
Nairaland zombies will still deny that there was a shooting at Lekki.

I'm astounded at most of you.

This is the coupe de grace to the massacre narrative.

Buhari has not addressed the issue and instead challenged foreign governments to seek clarification. Meaning he is confident there is something that is not visible to the masses which he doesn't care to reveal for now.

Gov. Same Olu has said no one died and has been doing a lot of running around d and apology without acknowledging that anyone was shot at Lekki specifically.

Now he is calling for petitions.

The fact is that by the time no one comes forward with credible evidence, that is where the narrative ends. But Sanwo Olu is too smart to let Nigerians make him the enemy so he will simply allow you all to kill the narrative by yourselves.

YorubaMod:
In dede-one-day's voice - Obaseki just reason am, if na you, you go return

You would be surprised.

Most of them will likely be destitute, u able to return to family or friends who which is where the government will look first, and lacking resources to begin a new life.

printemps:
Nigeria has a long way to go with the way they treat suspects. You don't dehumanize people like the way this People did in the video just because you're enforcing law or whatever. This camera parading of suspects need to stop!

Absolutely nothing wrong with this.

The soldiers simply asked them questions on camera. What is dehumanizing about that?

So armored personnel carriers are now armored tanks?

ibedun:
Emotional alaigbo illiterates won’t listen

I must honestly say that the manner in which this protest went has completely eroded my faith in the bulk of these Nigerian youth.

Awol1:
What will zombies say now?

What will these cows do now that their herder has admitted what they have been running pillar to post to deny?

Try to read with understanding.

69 people killed over the course of the whole protest not 69 people killed at Lekki.

Rugaria:
The police failed this society in so many ways! They re paid to secure lives and property and not to start check points to collect toles. In moments like this, the police should never have collapsed totally! The disappearance of the police was deliberate and should be investigated. It was as if the police wanted to use such actions to teach the people some rare lessons forgetting that not everyone was even in support of the mass actions! This should be investigated!

We have seen many countries that witnessed such uprisings, the police did their job, arresting hoodlums while protecting both properties and civil protesters. But here, it seems like protests have been criminalized. Once you say no and match, you become the new enemy of the state... If the policeman can not stand firm and enforce the law during jumpy periods, such characters should not be in the police force! The Nigerian Police Force failed woefully yet again.. period!

Police that are being assaulted and killed? You expect them not to take up a defensive posture?

daddytime:
I dey wait for SEGA response to them.

Great accountability.

Abeg make dem keep balance money for the next action to #EndCorruption #EndNepotism #EndNassJumboPay #EndBadGovernance because #EndSars protest na just catalyst to ending every of the above.

Na the main issues wey dey disturb Nigerians.

Well not to be a cynic but providing unverified figures is not accountability, though that is not to say that they have not be upright.

Philistine:
Of course, there is nothing like lekki massacre, the massacre only occured in ur imagination.

Don't be a senseless boy this early morning!

2mch:
They will still try to form stubborn. Not realizing that this generation is entirely different. If they don’t back down from their stupid moves they will blow this country up in flames.

That would be true if the country was united but as it is, it would only be the south that be blown up in flames. Meaning, who heritage is tied to the south will lose.

Eastlink:
We have heard you Mr Sanwo-Olu, apologies accepted. But Lagosians would like to know those who carried out the shooting. At the cessation of this whole mess the following should be brought to face the law.

1. The arrest and prosecution of those who sent soldiers to use live bullets on protesters at the Lekki toll gate.
2. The compensation of families of those who lost their lives.
3. The police officers who fired directly at protesters in different parts of the state.
4. The arrest of hoodlums and criminals who used the opportunity of the protest to wreck mayhem these past days.
5. And an inquiry into allegations of Police brutality by members of the public.

Can't you read between the lines?

The governor has not assented to the allegation that there was any shooting of protesters. He rather spoked about the broader deaths that occurred across the state. and then underlined it by speaking of false news.

From the position of the government, at both state and federal levels, the "lekki massacre" so-called, never happened.

"False news and baiting was also spread across social media further causing more chaos."

At the appropriate time, the government will reveal it all.

Media houses that built a narrative supported only by "eyewitnesses told us..."

Youths that deliberately manufactured evidence

International stakeholders who, after days of silence, rushed to conclusions without assessing the evidence.

A lot of people will lose credibility.

Yet in all, the hope for a brighter Nigeria shines extremely bright.

YoungBlackRico:
Welcome to nairaland Bro . And that's a supermod oh

It appears to be a deliberate attempt at profiteering off the crisis.

therajah:
You dint watch the broadcast?

Did he suspend the protest or did he ask protesters to go home? Im sure you can tell there is a big difference

Amotolongbo:
At first, he said 0 life was lost
Later, he said 1 life was lost
Now, he just said 2 lives are lost.

Is Sanwo-Olu playing WHOT cards or which general market is he picking these numbers from?

If only you could read

What kind of wording is this...he obviously never said any such

PHOTSEE:
WHAT WAS THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THOSE INDIVIDIUALS?

How I go take know

Aflix:
So you mean more than 27 people got injured because"they panicked". Did you even see the pictures of those that got injured Do they look like injuries gotten from stumbling on each other, s[/b]ince as you said "they panicked".
[b]Going by Your "Panicky" Logic, wouldn't it be wise to say they panicked because the soldiers were shooting at them?

1. Yes...most of those people just had mild scrapes and were sitting up in chairs at the hospital.

2. They panicked because they believed soldiers were shooting at them. Even in the videos where the soldiers ere visibly shooting up, you should see people saying protesters were being shot at.

Apparently the average Nigerian does not know that a bullet fired upwards is harmless on its return flight.

Aflix:
Can you even read what you wrote Does it makes any sense to you If no one got shot, who did sanwo Olu visit at the hospital Why did sanwo Olu order Tinubu's son to turn off the billboard

Buhari Zombie!

People who got injured. There are many ways for that to happen in a panicky situation.

But let me modify my statement to reflect what I really meant which was "no one got shot at"

kasillars:
They should provide the video feeds, if truly they were not removed... [b][/b]simple

They said it will be provided today at the inquiry

Aflix:
1st they said nobody was shot, now they are saying the CCTVs weren't removed Bloody liars!
And those that believe that fairytale about people not being shot, abeg tell me, who sanwo olu was apologizing to yesterday Who did sanwo Olu visit at the hospital yesterday Who did Osinbajo in his tweets apologize to Why is the government setting up investigation panels to investigate the shooting at lekki toll gate

And why is it that only Known Buhari supporters on Nairaland are the ones denying that there was no shooting? We all know how their mouths emanates lies.

You guys still fighting to the bitter end Abi?

No one got shot but gov Saneo Olu is gently managing the truth in order to placate angry youths. Shebi the CCTV footage will be played...will you you reject that one?