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@ gadogado

You people have the wrong idea about this issue, to say that "my meal is coming from ND" while I remain "unproductive" since I lack more valuable "natural resources" lacks logic. A northerner by virtue of his Nigerian citizenship has a right and a claim to the oil found within Nigeria's territory, Ijaws dont own the oil. [/b]Nigerians do. Nigeria happens to be a modern state, not ethnic kingdoms.
[b]Fact is, you did nothing to get the oil, its there by accident. You're not working to keep the oil, you cant keep resources to yourself and opt to be a member of club Nigeria (Africa's most populous nation and Africa's largest military and potentially Africa's largest economy by virtue of human capital resources NOT oil)

I have earlier thought u were ignorant I have just realised u are just desperate to continue having access to the ND oil. The US model u have been pointing at shows the locals run the show while they pay tax to d centre. So what d heck are u spitting? If ND states had 50% control like d US locals do now do u think they will be desperate to come to Abuja. And the same should be for all federating units. This was d case after independence and it worked perfectly well for the units. With cocoa money all Awo's infrastructural achievements are still d biggest in d SW dotting every area of d section. The same thing in the North Ahmodu Bello achieved a lot with just groundnut paying rebate to the centre.

If u like commit suicide he who owns the land owns the resources therein just like it practised in the US govt u claim to work for. ND will one day have 100% control of the resources on their land and pay tax to d centre if they are still a part of Nigeria.

@ gadogado

Your comments are laughable. Firstly, Nigeria will never break up. It never will because that would cause a domino effect in the rest of Africa where "unnatural borders" are also prevalent. Its against the Economic interests of African countries to start splitting on ethnic lines, the economic effect will be felt for generations because in terms of stability, you'd be pushing the continent back 100 years. An educated and rational African knows this. You are merely sentimental and emotional not rational. The Idea that Nigeria will break up is unrealistic because it cant, its too complex to break up. Yugoslavia broke up due to the fact that communism as an economic order died. Much like Russia, the death of communism is what separated them. Nigeria has never been a communist state!! To break a state, it has to experience economic shock, not even political. Iraq could've broken and it would have if the shock and awe was economic rather than political. Its not an easy business to break up a country, i hope you know this. Its not easy at all. Especially complex nation states in our times. If Nigeria breaks up then you know for sure that law and order will break with it, What stops you from turning into somalia?
breaking up a country is not easy. Its one of the most difficult things possible. If you read, you'll know this

Everything in the existence of the Nation has always shown it will come to an end one day. Especially the events culminating in 2011 elections will rather catalyse the break-up.


Here u have an ND frontrunner (obviously not ready to loose the election) and the North not willing to compromise  for where their meal is currently being sourced. If these 2 groups of opponents go into election without reaching a compromise then Nigeria will gradually become a history. GEJ loss means reasons for boys to reck immeasurable havoc on all installations bring d whole country to a halt. And since people like u bleive oil is nothing may be these boys should blow up all the oil installations in ND first and lets see what happen to your state economy. On the other hand a victory for GEJ wil not go without serious acrimony and insurgencies from Boko Harams and d likes of IBB ready to frustrate any plans he has to achieve his promises.

For umpteen time I will advise u to brace-up for a Nation of your own state alone. That way even if ND leaves tomorrow u wont feel the pains much.

@ gadogado

Fool, take a look at this link before you open your big mouth

I am sory I didnt draw an important line across the offshore area ( I am sure you must have heard about offshore and deep offshore). I have not said the US Federal has no stake at all in oil but what I am telling u is that the primary owner is who owns the land owns the resources therein. The link you posted is Obama exercising US Federal control on US territorial waters well away from the littoral states and their immediate waters. And if ND leaves Nigeria today both the continental shelve and the deep sea belongs to them by international conventions. OK the following link will give u more information.

The law regulating oil and gas ownership in the U.S. generally differs significantly from laws in Europe because oil and gas are often owned privately in the U.S.
[edit]Jurisdiction
In the U.S., extraction of oil and gas is generally regulated by the individual states through statutes and common law. Federal and constitutional law apply as well.
[edit]Ownership

In the United States, oil and gas rights to a particular parcel may be owned by private individuals, corporations, Indian tribes, or by local, state, or federal governments. Oil and gas rights extend vertically downward from the property line. Unless explicitly separated by a deed, oil and gas rights are owned by the surface landowner. Once severed from surface ownership, oil and gas rights may be bought, sold, or transferred, like other real estate property.
Oil and gas rights offshore are owned by either the state or federal government and leased to oil companies for development. The tidelands controversy involve the limits of state ownership.
Although oil and gas laws vary by state, the laws regarding ownership prior to, at, and after extraction are nearly universal. An owner of real estate also owns the minerals underneath the surface, unless the minerals are severed under a previous deed or an agreement.
[edit]Prior to and at extraction
Unless mineral rights are severed, whoever owns the fee of the soil owns everything below the surface, limited by the extent of the surface rights (Del Monte Mining & Milling Co. v. Last Chance Mining & Milling Co.). Because oil and gas are fluids, they may flow in the subsurface across property boundaries. In this way, an operator may permissibly extract oil and gas from beneath the land of another, if the extraction is lawfully conducted on his own property (Kelly v. Ohio Oil Co.). An operator may not, however, angle a well to penetrate beneath property not owned by or leased to him.
The two conflicting legal doctrines covering oil and gas extraction are the rule of capture, and the correlative rights doctrine. Which of the doctrines applies in a particular case depends on state law, which varies considerably from state to state, or in the case of the federal offshore zone, on US federal law.
The rule of capture gives land owners an incentive to pump out oil as quickly as possible to capture the oil of their neighbors. Such practice may deplete the gas pressure needed to force oil out of the ground. Government agencies such as the Texas Railroad Commission therefore regulate extraction by individual owners.
[edit]Ownership of extracted oil and gas
Refined hydrocarbons that escape into the ground are not subject to the law of capture, unless evidence shows that the refiner abandoned them. Champlin Exploration, Inc. v. Western Bridge & Steel Col, Inc. Extracted oil and gas which are subsequently stored in underground reservoirs are considered as personal property, rather than as an interest in real estate. Texas American Energy Corporation v. Citizens Fidelity Bank & Trust Company.

Look, no one is scared. Just dont take people for fools. What is resource control in a modern nation state that is practicing a federal system of government. The statutory laws of Nigeria clearly state the all natural resources belong to the federal government. It does not say that natural resources belong to whatever ethnic group that happens to be the closest to the source of the natural resource. This means that natural resources irrespective of where they're found fall under the jurisdiction and preserve of the federal government of Nigeria. What the Niger Deltans are arguing is that the oil belongs to the Ijaw nation or whatever ethnic nationality found there. If we were a loosely confederated alliance of ethnic nationalities then I would understand. But unless the status of Nigeria changes to reflect that, the status quo remains. Every Nigerian citizens owns the oil. Every Saudi owns the oil not just those in Dammam, every Russian owns and has a stake in Russian oil and gas not just Siberian tribes. Oil and gas are extracted and sold with the sole beneficiary being the federal government of Russia not regional governments. Do you people know what a country is? If you start saying the resource in my village belong to only me then you're not a country, you have effectively become ethnic nationalities and you're going back to those pre European tribal days.

Firstly FGN total control on oil resources is an aberration and its wrong and this will surely be addressed one day. From 3% derivation went to 10% derivation and presently 13% derivation so be prepared it will get to 100% one day.

Have u taken a look at the balkanized products of the former soviet union? Kazzarztan is one of them with huge oil and gas deposits. The Kazza is now a flourishing economy without any form of continue affiliation with the former Lords (Russia) and dont need Russia to do anything. Ukraine is another product of old soviet union and some couples of months ago Ukraine threatened to block all flow-lines passing through her territory taking gas from Russia to other European countries unless her stake is increased in the business. Siberia is an integral part of Russia well catered after by the government, ND have always told d rest of d nation they dont belong here and have been abandoned by FGN.

There are 2 possible ends to d Nigerian nation just like former Yugoslavia that separated violently of former Soviet that separated peacefully an end to d country will come one day and you should concentrate on what you can do for your landmass that represents your home and stop living-off of resources from other sections in the name of one nation.

did you notice that I ignored you, i dont want to join issues with you, know why? because you haven't the slightest clue what you what you're talking about. I live in America and work for the US federal government. You dont know anything. by the say, I noticed you spelled Palin wrong twice.

Corporations control the Alaskan oil sector, the pay taxes to the state. The federal govt. has the power to freeze all activities related to oil exploration/extraction. When it comes to power in America, the federal government is clearly superior, the supreme court case McCulloch V. Maryland clearly solidified the superiority of the national government over the state governments. The president has the power to regulate state activities but the state can only challenge federal powers in court. The US constitution trumps any state constitution. Youngstown sheet & tube V. Sawyer (another US supreme court case) gave the president enough room to acquire private property under certain conditions. i.e: that the private owner is duly compensated etc. In America, resources ultimately belong to the federal govt., the fed can come into your state and designate as federal monument any part of that state and make it a federal reserve.

When the native Americans got their reservations, did they sign the agreements with the states or federal government?? In the state of Wisconsin, there is a reservation for the Oneida tribe and even though its inside Wisconsin's boundaries/borders, the federal government had the power to give them that land and guarantee it without the states permission or input. So don't give lessons to someone who can name all the US presidents by heart. Im a bonafide student of American history.

U probably ignore me because u are scared of the thruth. U working in with US govt doesnt mean u understand oil economy. In fact u have shown u do not understand oil economy in anyway.

Stop muddling-up US Federal powers over other issues with d topic of discussion which is who controls the oil .  

If I must educate u again, all on-shore oil reserves in the US are owned by individuals that own the land (prove this wrong with an evidence)

And secondly permit to tap or not to tap off-shore reserves lies with the State and not US Federal govt (prove this wrong if u can)

Are you educated? does have a naturally occurring resource in the atlantic ocean imply that people from the Niger Delta are productive? because if you say I'm parasitic, then I must be benefiting from your productivity. Natural resources do not make you productive, if sand were to become a valuable resource, and its abundant in sokoto, does that mean those people in sokoto are productive?? maybe you should negotiate state taxes instead of resource control, because all Nigerians own the oil. I have a stake in the oil by virtue of my Nigerian citizenship.

Let me further beat it into your thick selfish skull. This oil belongs to Nigeria and Nigerians not Niger Deltans or Ijaws. Have you ever heard people that are indigenous to Siberia demand resource control from Moscow, Have you ever heard the people of Dammam in Saudi saying the royal family should come from their town since they produce oil or that Jeddah or Riyadh shouldn't have access to the oil revenue or that Mecca that doesn't produce oil is parasitic for using oil revenue?? Have you?? If you want the oil to yourselves, why not get that old man edwin clark and declare independence, do that! Then we wont have to listen to your rubbish, then we can finally invade you as a foreign force since you're so tiny, occupy and annex you then you'll enter your senses.

See let me tell you something, even if you were to declare independence, you would not get it unless you agree to certain conditions like paying the other regions a certain amount for many different things, when you dont pay, they invade. Worst case scenario. You people are so selfish with this oil, so what are you going to do when it becomes valueless??

You'll never get this resource control rubbish because its an alien concept that only Niger Deltans can cook up. If you google resource control, you'll find only Nigeria and native American Indians as results. No other civilized nation state does this resource control rubbish. the oil belongs to all Nigerians, the limestone in the north belongs to Ijaws as much as it belongs to Gombe state indigenes because all are Nigerian citizens. We need to find better ways of ensuring that the revenue generated by all resources are better utilized and used for the benefit of the people. Even if you have 50% of oil revenue going to 5 or 6 states while the other 30 share the remaining 50% (thats your plan right) how will it better your lives, the same Iboris and co will pop up and make sure the money remains at the very top with only a few sharing it amongst themselves. Billionaire government officials is the only thing that will achieve since you have the same social problems as the whole country.

Now you are so angry and scared of letting them go and yet claim you can do without them.

Wake up if u are from my village or from the north ND resources currently feed most of our people and the wise thing to do is to negotiate with them and and at the same time be improving on economic base of our own states too.

d) The federal government owns all natural resources irrespective of region. They give out the exploration permits, the oil bloc allocations, and control the oil sector, why because the oil belong to the ENTIRE CITIZENRY OF NIGERIA not just Ijaws or whatever. A Nigerian from sokoto will tell a foreigner that he is a Nigerian citizen and his country's major export is oil. Meaning he has a stake in this oil by virtue of him being a citizen of Nigeria. I have never heard anything close to resource control in any oil producing country ever.

U seem tired of ND may be u shuld break them away and lets see

b) Alaska is not doing any resource control rubbish, the oil market is open to investors, you invest you money in an oil company and get your profits, from this profit, you pay out tax to the state and federal govt. TRUE CAPITALISM. The govt only regulates the activities of oil companies.
c) what is resource control The federal republic of Nigeria owns all natural resources in Nigeria and her territorial waters. Just because you are from Rivers doesn't mean you own the oil, or your silly little tribe owns it. Thats a foolish way of belonging to a nation state. YOU DONT OWN THE RESOURCES! so why control something you dont own?
d) The federal government owns all natural resources irrespective of region. They give out the exploration permits, the oil bloc allocations, and control the oil sector, why because the oil belong to the ENTIRE CITIZENRY OF NIGERIA not just Ijaws or whatever. A Nigerian from sokoto will tell a foreigner that he is a Nigerian citizen and his country's major export is oil. Meaning he has a stake in this oil by virtue of him being a citizen of Nigeria. I have never heard anything close to resource control in any oil producing country ever.

Wrong again as usual Alaska controls off-shore oil in Alaska while individuals control any oil found on their lands. Last year inspite of Obama's appeal to allow offshore drilling in Alaska, Sarah Paulin will not have it and so it remained until she changed her mind.

Weather u like it not a day will come(and the day is near with 2011 elections results) when ND wil have full control over the oil resources found on their land. Stop wasting your energy to control ND resources from the centre. I used to do that b/4 but I am wiser and now concentrate on any little way I can tap from my state and improve its economy.

@ Stallion

This dude is delusional! he thinks because IBB's running mate is yoruba, then the entire yoruba people will fall in line, he is so wrong, he won't even win his village. Shameless slowpoke!

Please tell me Im missing something. Has IBB picked his running mate?

Dr Kunle Olajide[b][/b]

Another hungry slowpoke!

source?

The alleged reply to Dokpesi rant by Ima Niboro, the Special Adviser, Media and Publicity, to President Goodluck E Jonathan is very un-presidential, lame in texture and uncharacteristic of a democratic leader.

I guess u have not read Dokpesi's allegation. His choice of words is very belligerent and Niboro did not do a good job in not replying with an equal measure.

IBB is very corny and this is exactly what is campaign plans are to wield people sentiments and GEJ microphones need to up their game against diz Evil cult.

1) The Texas oil industry is open to all investors including foreigners like the Nigerian Kase Lawal and middle eastern royalty. Like I said, Investors who put up the businesses get their profits and then pay state and federal taxes which run into the billions. The federal government does whatever is on its agenda with such tax revenue and so does the state. The investors get their profits but they dont necessarily invest the proceeds in the state of Texas as you subtly implied. There is no law that mandates this or tells them what to do with their profits. The Texas oil industry is a free and open market not just to Texans. The state govt. develops the state with tax revenue. Investors are free to take their profits and invest in Mississippi backwoods or Siberian ice deserts.

Like some1 has already pointed out to u, there are so many contradictions in your arguments. U said government paid a family in South Dakota to acquire an oil-field found on their land and still claim individuals dont control oil resources. The family has the right to say no deal and nothing will happen, the government will just carry go with their money. There is an impact crater in Arizona the US govt has been begging the owner to sell to govt since 1945 and the heirs to the property till now has refused to let go of it.

And my question is how much has the FGN paid to acquire the land of d ND people b/4 controlling their resources?

U claim that d fact that 90% of Nigeria income come from ND does not mean they contribute anything in terms of productivity to the Nation. I served in Bonny Island for 1 year and can tell u this small Island represents the most economically prosperous town in Nigeria. Not because there are sky-scrapers, big roads and those flashy things in Abuja and Lagos for instance but because >70% of the population are gainfully employed, constant power supply (24/7/356), very low crime rate and relative peaceful co-existence btw the locals and d expatriates.

My DEDE this place is near-perfect because of one overriding factor: is it is an Island and the locals have consistently rejected attempts to build a connecting bridge to the mainland in P/H. The day the ND people succeed in carving their land out of Nigeria I can bet u even if they are the dullest in the world their country will naturally gravitate toward economy prosperity with the assistance of ever-willing oil-drinking super powers. If u are still doubting the role of lucrative resources in a nation's productivity I will giv u 2 more examples. UAE (where Dubai is located) only has 40 % of the population to be indegens. The country is a desert and decided to open up her economy to foreigners to develop, ditching out tax-holidays. Dubai 40% aboriginal population lacks nothing and government practically beg/pay them to work.

Another example is Brunei. The country was negotiating with Malaysia for merger because it is a tiny country and need security. But a week to the final signing of the merger agreement oil was discovered in Brunei, your guest is a good as mine. Brunei is being protected by Britons and American Navies and Armies. I ave a friend from Brunei whose upkeep budget in a year is 100x mine and she claims her parents are just civil servants.

ND resources are enough to sustain a ND nation at least in the next 40 years even if they all decided not to work. In fact the US and UK will prefer they dont work and just get paid.

Your fear is real (and that is my fear too) and I will advise you to focus on how to harness whatever resources in your state and be prepared if ND breaks away from our financial liabilities one day.

whose duty is it to provide security for all Nigerians

GEJ can only provide security for Dokpesi but cannot pay his tax for him

You may need to read Dokpesi statements very well. He obviously does not have respect for GEJ office and just stop short of accusing GEJ of planning his woes.

After reading d full text of Dokpesi I am now more angry with him than ever and now I think Niboro was too terse in his reply. He was using divisive statements just like his boss to gain sympathy. Instead of campaigning for his boss he is actually attacking GEJ right to vie for presidency by liking a vote for GEJ as a vote for anarchy.These are very strong words from an owner of a strategic TV station like AIT and should be met wit all 'brutality' from GEJ camp.

In politics u dont sit back and continue taking punches from opponents in the name of peace. Peace doesnt solve all problems just d same way violence doesnt destroy all good things.

From now on I care not about any action taken against diz ignoramus by GEJ camp. Why cant he see GEJ has already won d PDP primaries and his strong verbal attacks on GEJ now may just b repaid in d nearest future?

The problem with this kind of behaviour is you could simply be legitimising the actions of some from other parts of the country who also have other reasons to use violence. Who is to say Boko Haram can not wake up tomorrow and say violence against the Jonathan campaign is also legitimate because they do not approve of his candidacy? Who is it down to, to measure what violence is noble and which is'nt?

Let us be careful because at the rate we are going, we may end up with an ungovernable country after the election. Does Somalia or Rwanda come to mind here? Folks must be careful . . . . . . the best place to reject IBB is with your votes at the poll.

With my church mind I think Niboro condescended too low to answer Dokpesi. GEJ barkers should have been d one tongue-lashing him. I agree with u GEJ shuld be seen to b against any form of political violence against Dokpesi. The problem is dat Dokpesi's AIT is strategic and pitching his tent with d Demon will naturally attract heat from GEJ. But my fear for Dokpesi is not even GEJ but some ND youths dat wil use d opportunity to 'touch' anything dat is related to him. I have no mercy for d Evil one and no apology.

We shud just 4get a free and fair elction next year not with IBB in d race. Like I hav always said events of recent days have shown d PDP primaries are already being rigged in GEJ favours. But will he allow free and fair general election?

@ Naijaking

No violence in elections, its not right.
Dokpesi has a right to support whosoever he choses--that's called democracy. Any attempt to shut him up is undemocratic.
I support Jonathan, and will probably contribute to his campaign if needed, but this idea of using a governemnt paid presidential spokeman to answer every political rant against a candidate who has not even "officially" declared his interest is wrong.
This is the time for one of the million plus one Jonathan/Sambo for president groups to speak up and defend their principal.

Im sorry violence against IBB will be celebrated by all and sundry even in the grave (Vatsa, MKO, Dele Giwa). He deserves no pity from any1. I cant wait for GEJ to give him more political punches. Honestly I have to admit GEJ is either weak or must be a very patient man with strong self-control.

@ gadogado

Oil producing countries practice many different systems of government but its only Nigeria that you hear this rubbish. You have no claim over the oil. Since the govt started with the oil derivation formula, has the region seen anything better?

U seem scared of the truth like many of  us from outside Niger Delta. I can authoritatively tell u, u are completely wrong in your assertions.

Most countries petroleum law is based on d old legal latin statement that he who owns the land owns the resources therein. America for instance almost all the oil reserves are own by individuals. As a matter of fact all the on-shore oil reservoirs belong to individuals owning the lands while all the offshore reservoirs are controlled by the states. Alaska for instance under Sarah Paulin disallowed offshore drilling in Alaska for years until the last year economic recession forced her to relax the ban.

In the UK all onshore oil reserves are controlled by individuals while the offshore blocs are controlled by the UKCS (a federal agency) and the litoral county closest to the offshore field.

Nigeria has a similar arrangement to these countries except that the oil fields are currently being controlled by d Federal government. For instance all wells and oil activities in Akwa-Ibom will be christened to reflect the host communities like Eket-01, Adanga-A3, the only thing is dat these people are not controlling the resources but get 13% derivation allocation from d FGN.

The ND have all d right to fight for control of resources on their land because they bare the brunt of all environmental hazards that come with oil exploration. Afterall before the military came into power the old Northern, Eastern and Western section of d country were all controlling resources in their territory and paying rebate to the FGN.

This is a wake-up call to other sections (including my own state) of d country to stop sole-dependency on oil because diz Nation may balkanise one day and the ND will surely control their territorial waters and the resources therein.

Our attention has been drawn to statements by the Director General of the General Ibrahim Babangida campaign organisation, Chief Raymond Dokpesi, to the effect that the Presidency is after his life.
He is also alleged to have said that there is a plot to kidnap his son, as a means of forcing him to abandon the Babangida campaign. Obviously, these are lies, and it beats us hollow what Dokpesi stands to gain by them beyond introducing chilling and quite sinister dimensions to the contest for the presidency in 2011.

Nigerians know those who are the "Masters" in the art of political violence and it is not President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. Nigeria had enough of such deadly power games under the jack boots of dictators past, and in embracing democracy and freedom, we have said a resounding NO to them once and for all.

Nigerians are also aware of the inclinations of the political family Dokpesi belongs to in the South South, and their past roles as purveyors of violence and political “militancy”.  Everyone knows that Jonathan has never been associated with such distasteful things.

We also note Dokpesi’s claim that the tax authorities are after him, and ask that he nurses no fears since we assume he has been paying his taxes as at when due. We are after all, a law abiding society, and no one should fear the taxman if their taxes are up to date. Making unsubstantiated claims would not stop the tax authorities from doing their jobs.

This is our position. And we stand resolutely by it.

Ima Niboro
Special Adviser, Media and Publicity, to the President.
11th September, 2010.

source http://www.saharareporters.com/press-release/kidnap-threat-against-dokpesi-tissue-lies-let-him-pay-his-taxes-%E2%80%93jonathan-fires-back

I have warned this ignoramus. This is just d beginning and this time around he doesnt even have our sympathies like he used to have when OBJ govt was harassing his station. He has sold his soul to d Demon and if u kill a big snake u should have a big pot to cook it.

I have warned this ignoramous called Dokpesi he has to b sure he has no skeleton in his cupboard b/4 going against GEJ. Unlike IBB who is enjoying 'immunity' based on commonsensical respect from GEJ, Dokpesi go hear wehn.
Please I want to appeal to d militants please leave his family out of diz ooo. U can go after Dokps and his master in the Minna hill. I will borrow from the bank to pay u for IBB head

we dont know what u talking about but know Mimiko won d election and PDP stole d victory and we are happy he got his mandate back. whichever way he used in getting it back we dont care

Again, if GEJ runs as presidential candidate of PDP against the backdrop of the party’s zoning formula as entrenched in the constitution, he is more poisonous than IBB.

When it comes to IBB I always have erections. How in diz world u compare IBB wit GEJ. IBB was one of the anti-angels banished by Jehovah into d world . This guy marks the upper limit for evil scale. U shuld be comparing IBB with Hitler, Mobutu, Idi-Amin and co which have special places in Lucifa's palace.

If this is true this is the beginning of d end for Tinubu's political life. He has just played into PDPs hands by failling to 4give or 4get any differences he is aving wit Fashola. With his popularity, achievements and federal might with GEJ desperate for Lagos votes PDP has just won a lottery for 2011 Lagos guber poll.

@ Dede1
[quote

I am not ashamed of broadcasting the fact that thinking of how to make Nigeria great does not cross my mind. My prayers were centered on the well-being of anything that could lead the disintegration of Nigeria. Biafra or Republic of Igboland, I am for it. Also, I shall support any form of confederation which consists Ibibio, Annang and Ogoni.

If it is divine for GEJ to lead Nigeria through 2015, I must not fail to remind his supporters that it should be a work of divinity he will be swept out of office through a coup. I have no respect for any person in power that flouts common rules.

GEJ will get my vote if he runs under another party instead of PDP.

][quote][/quote]I cannot but wish u good luck in your quest but some of us are perhaps not lucky like u and have our legs on either sides of the Niger. We have no choice but to pray and work for d common happiness of our people on both sides of d Niger.

For us anti-IBB die-hards GEJ for now is d only antidote to d ravaging poison called IBB

Bro gadogado

your a bloody fool. 1) The south south constitute a minority, minorities dont have rights over majorities. 2) They cant dump an agreement half way into it, zoning has to be fully adhered to. 3) people like you are complete idiots, so do they go and farm the oil? is it their blood and sweat that gets the oil? just because a resource most of which is in the atlantic ocean, some sitting deep underground happens to be close to the are doesn't give them any right over the resource. They do have the right to demand compensation for environmental pollution however. But the resource belong to all Nigerians unless Nigeria's corporate existence ceases to continue, the resources belong to the federal government of Nigeria, the FG being the only entity that has full rights over any activity that has anything to do with oil. Its not the south-south peoples assembly or local monarchs that give oil blocks, its the FG.

Have you ever heard anyone in Saudi Arabia (largest oil producer) claim that since the oil is from my part of the country, I should get more money? or we should be the royal family? Have you ever heard anybody from any oil producing country make such preposterous claims? And mind you, in Saudi, they have many tribes who speak in several different arabic dialects. You're just a buffoon, a complete ignorant fool. Its only in Nigeria and Sudan, epitomes of the third world that you hear idiotic africans saying things like "the oil is from my region" so what?? do you want to localize the oil and have full control over it and maybe give the rest of the country charity or better yet keep it to yourselves an not give anybody? you're an with no concept of what a nation state implies.

Its only laziness that produces this type of mentality, dont you know that its a backward and laughable thing in the international community if a country derives most of its revenue from a natural resource "A NATURALLY OCCURRING RESOURCE" as opposed to productivity through manufacturing and services and technology. This is like in America, Texans and Alaskans saying they have the right to produce a president because they produce oil. Nonsense.

Take it eazy ooo. But if u look at it there are so many good things that can come out of GEJ presidency if handled well and if he is competent.
At least it is now an open secret that all Nigerian federation units currently collect their allawe from oil produce from d Niger Delta region and a leader from this region should calm d fray nerves of the resltless youths dat always prop up marginalization as their reason 4 blowing up oil installations.

Again if GEJ is competent he represents a generational change in leadership with relatively sordid past and killing records like IBB who will surely carry d day if GEJ did not contest.

Another good thing is that legally-speaking GEJ is not entitled to another term if elected again as stated by d constitution and he remains d only one legally bounded by d constitution from 2015 presidential election if he won d 2011 contest.

There's no question IBB is an evil man, but the principles of democracy says that you should support whoever you prefer, and not hinder other people's support for their own candidates. If you try to punish Dokpesi for supporting IBB, you wouldn't be applying true democratic principles, if you try to punish him, it wouldn't make any sense at all. You should focus on gathering enough votes for your own candidate to beat the one you didn't like, not on punishing people who supported your opponent.

You don't have sound like ED Clark who has not only forgotten his own actions in the past, but seems bent on thwarting basic democratic principles. Unfortunately, Goodluck has let him make all these blunder without caution.

U should not expect a free and fair election with IBB in d race. On a good day IBB should b slugging it out with Bode George on who should b d Cell leader in Kirikiri.

The terrain has never been level with IBB Billions of pounds in UK(d only one I am dead sure of). He just gave journalists N250K as transport fares and started buying more votes.

I am particularly emotional about IBB dream because I am one of many people that lost their dear ones to IBB's ignoble days. Its a big insult that some1 that killed a democratic process and denied people happiness is even contesting for d Nation's number 1 post without any sign of remorse of all his past attrocities.

I am not GEJ lackluster fan but I have realised he is d only one that has d resources and power to squeeze IBB's ballls d way I have always dreamt. IBB doesnt deserve any fair democratic principles like u preach ( I will only advocate that for leser devils). IBB has lived all his life on deceits, manipulations, forgery, drug, killings that I cannot wait for him to be deceived, manipulated, and killed like he killed Vatsa,MKO and my friend.

If u want to campaign for free and fair election u better take IBB out of d race or u can  never have one at least not in 2011

I might have forgotten that some people truely and honestly don't know of eastern Nigeria, it's people, and boundaries. These oil fields are not real geographical indicators of Igboland, Ijawland, or even Ogoniland, but merely spots where oil was located. Before the oil was found, people actively lived and owned these lands.

So without begininng another thread on the boundries of Igboland, it's common knowledge that both Port Harcourt(Igwe Ocha) and Bonny(Igwe Nga) were unquestionably Igboland with the inhabitants speaking Igbo or a variations of it.

The Hausa people designated these cities and subsequent oil fields into a "more friendly" Rivers State using the Nasir boundary adjustment commision, but in reality, it has not always been so. I would only assume that if Ijaws want to form their own country, they would so without traditional and historical Igbolands.

Very interesting information! But in as much as stand for my people I am not desperate to annex others land to sustain a course. What happens if the Rivers people decide to allign with the rest of Niger Delta? I lived and worked in P/H for 3 years, and inspite of the closeness of d largest group culture to Igbos (d Ikweres) they see themselves as different people and dont seem to me to buy into Biafra. A referendum for instance in Rivers will most likely be against Biafra.

We should start concentrating on how to make d best out of what we have and if we remain in Nigeria should cont demanding for our right in the scheme of things.

@ Dede

I will not only vote against Goodluck Elelechukwu Azikiwe Jonathan but do everything within my powers to see him crash if he contests 2011 presidential election under PDP banner. If GEJ can not observe the dictates of his party constitution as entrenched under section 7-2C, I suggest he has no business leading democratic bunch.  

I do not give a fig about IBB ambition. If PDP produces him as zoning formula of the party guarantees, I say so be it. I repeatedly begged Ndigbo to steer clear of Nigeria and its leadership image of imbecility. Nigeria can shove 2015 through its arse I really do not care. All I ask for about Nigeria is disintegration of the colonial cesspit.

Its too late by accident or divinity GEJ has been positioned to lead Naija into 2015. Your vote wont change anything. I agree with u dat the Indigbos have really had it rough in the scheme of things in Nigeria,since d civil war but we ave found ourself in Nigeria and may have 2 concentrate on how take a rightful place in d scheme of things and better d lots of our people.

U should b bordered about IBB aspirations because more dan GEJ IBB represents a retrogressive machine dat will take d future of Nigeria including Ndigbos back into d stone age. He has never kept his words and will never do. His victory means some Nigerians running abroad and those planning to come home changing their mind. He will muscle up all oppositions and make sure his son succeds him in presidency after dying on the sit.

I do not agree in its entirity what Dokpesi has to say. But the Ijaws must remember that if every Nigerian support their Kinsman, no Ijaw will be President of Nigeria in the next 10years.

So those who support Jonathan but try to bully Dokpesi for supporting an outsider are simply shortsighted. They are simply telling folks from the North who have already indicated interest in supporting Jonathan that they are fools.

This is a very good and intelligent point and I hope GEJ barkers especially Edwin Clarke will apply restraints in his utterances.

But to Dokpesi the only wrong thing he has done is pitching his tent with d Devil. Fewer people would ave questioned his action if he had announced supports for Buhari for instance. But IBB represents a plague no one should touch not even with a long stick. Moreover wen his AIT hitherto has shown that IBB is evil and of no good for leadership but now pilotting d same IBB campaign train shows he needs d money badly and has consequently betrayed d confidence reposed in him by many.

@ Dede

t is amazing most of the fools just woke up from deep political slumber, including Goodluck Jonathan, who seemed to flirt with idea of dislike for northern region of Nigeria had failed to ask why did their fathers, uncles, aunts, brothers and sisters went to bed with northern Nigerian politicians and soldiers in 1967.

True federalism, resource control, revenue derivation, electricity, removal of quota systems and meritorious services were cornerstones of eastern region agitation in 1966. I now believe pig will always beget pig. Campaign based on loud noise is bound to crash.

U mix-up so many things up here! U sound like one of my bitter brothers but u putting GEJ candle out will not brighten Indigbos chances in 2015. As a matter of fact IBB presidency will b a live presidency (just like OBJ tried) but IBB wil make sure he didnt fail like OBJ by killing all oppositions.

@ Naija

Once again, why is everybody sounding like Biafra? Before we seperate Niger delta from Nigeria, maybe we should first revise the Justice Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment of 1967 to give Igbo people back their land as it was before the civil war.
Don't sound smart today, 40 years after you blindly fought Igbos trying to establish the same principle you're talking about now.

u are not clear in whatever u are saying and u need to be more explicit. Do u mean the Bonga field, Escravos, Adanga field, kuale field etc are parts of the SE geopolitical zone?