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The Bible is clear enough that you would always need a second party to help you misunderstand it. If people will just take God's word the way it is without reading their thoughts, dreams and ambitions into it, there would be no need to argue any point without a sincere and profitable conclusion which would be to the benefits of all. The Apostles had several arguments (reading from the book of Acts) but they always followed the Scripture through for clarity and a profitable conclusion. Sometimes we need to argue a point from many angles in order to get it right. However, we must be careful to pursue only that which bring peace, if the arguments won't do any good to anybody, it's just better to drop it. The fact that a man just want to keep arguing even when he can see clearly from the Bible that his points are void shows that the man is pioneering a very devilish ambition. @Pilgrim1 and Kunle I've been following your posts and it's to my interest that your arguments is leading to a very good conclusion that many believers can benefit from. God's word holds the final say over all subjects in the Christendom. We cannot add to it, we dare not take away from it, we can only choose to obey and practice it. Having this at the back of our minds that only the doer of the word is blessed in his deeds! I guess Pilgrim must be seeing the practice of tithe with better insight now |
I shake my head! ![]() |
whether win or lose, I no dey bother my head ontop naija again! I don sign out! |
Whatever! |
@emporium |
UP BLUES |
I'm happy President Obama is snubbing Nigeria. Yar'Adua is not a good president. The guy is sick for God's sake!!! How can a sick man lead us? What were his achievements when he was the Governor of Katsina State? When I see Yar'Adua's pictures, I'm always having a feeling that he might die in office Cry Cry Cry He looks frail. A sick man leading Nigeria is a bad omen. It has spiritual connotations for the future of our country. We need to do something dramatic in 2011. Cheers.Harsh words But true talk! |
when will they be recruiting a new cook, i swear am really interested, I love cooking esp for governors0le! |
Up Barca! ![]() |
Democracy in Nigeria, if ever, was well before my time. ![]() |
I understand you have to live to die. Democracy in Nigeria is yet unborn and therefore impossible to have bin killed except the Military regimes committed accelerated abortions. Now, that's the vital bit. NOT SURE WE EVER HAD ONE |
well typical NigeriaIt's for cover up. I hiss too! |
I'm a student of Environmental mgt and toxicology and I had to do a water analysis practical course. I tested Gossy water, Eva and Ragolis. Their pH levels were remarkably neutral ranging from 6.9-7.1. Gossy was 7.0! Dissolved solid analysis was also very very low ranging from 0.001 to 0.010, again Gossy was lowest. Dissolved calcium and conductivity levels were also in line with WHO standards. One brand of sachet water also did very well. As much as we all want to believe they are impure, they actually are doing a great job. I stopped abusing those brands of water after that practical session because we compared them with well water and tap water using WHO requirements. If I didn't do it personally, I'd still not believe but I do now.This will help. Thanks for the post. |
@Pastor AIOowo ni keke ihin rere, abi no be so ![]() |
@ttalks your post explains my view on the matter, just want to be sure I'm not getting it wrong. Thanks! |
@solosimpleMy submissions was based on the original post, and I hope I have explained from the scriptures why it is not the responsibilities of Pastors (considering the reason for their calling) to develop their nations, which you also attested to. However, to say the church must stand to always help the poor and needy would mean starting another topic. In that case, you are very correct, anyone who truly studies the Bible knows that giving to the poor and helping the needy is taught throughout the Bible, from Genesis to Jude. However, something is not very clear to me about giving to the poor and helping the needy. Is the admonishment or (call it obligation) primarily to the poor and the needy among believers or is it general. From my readings, it appears to me that most time ("I'm not saying in all cases" people of God gave to the poor who happens to be among them or believers in other places. The contributions that was done in the days of the Apostles were either distributed among saints according to their needs or sent to other saints in another place who are in need (they did not take the money to the poor in the street.***I don't mean to say that they weren't helping those who are not Christian and so we should not. Jesus feed multitudes of people among whom there are many who did not believe but are only interested in his gifts***)Consider the scriptures which says: DO GOOD TO ALL MEN ESPECIALLY TO THOSE OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH once again it appears to me that helping the poor and the needy is primarily referring to the poor and the needy among believers. You can share your understanding. |
Pls people, don't let us confuse issues here, Pastors are not the same as Presidents or Senators, their major scope of operation is spiritual and not carnal(natural). It's good to define who a pastor is and hence get the correct knowledge of what we should expect from them. Every citizen of a nation must contribute to the development of the nation in anyway he can. Paying Tax is one good example, Pastors too should pay tax, not because they are pastors but because they are citizens of the nation. Same thing goes for other prescribed obligation that every citizens must obey, having this in mind that God is the one who institute all authorities and He told us to obeys Governmental rules. A Pastor would need to fulfill his own quota as a citizen of the nation BUT NOT AS A PASTOR WHO IS UNDER A SPECIAL OBLIGATION TO DO SO. The reason for Pastors or Xtain leaders is for the up building of the Church, not the nations. See Eph 4:11-14. A president of a nation is elected by the people to serve the people of the nation. A Pastor emerged by the grace and the calling of God attested with good virtues(1Cor1:26-28, 1Cor 15:10, 1Tim 3, Act 6), and his primary responsibility is to the Church. The responsibility he has to the nation would be to evangelize the sinners in the nation (Mt. 28:19-20), to pray for the leaders and to pray for peace in the nation (1Tim 2). He has no special mandate to ensure the development of the nation. Adeboye for instance has no special mandate to make Nigeria better, he is suppose to make the believers better by equipping them with the sincere and unbiased word of truth which is able to transform any life for good, he is suppose to lead the believers under him in continuous spiritual activities and admonish them by God's word and Spirit to live a life that is worthy of The faith they are called to, that which is worthy of emulation, in the world of darkness in which they must shine as lights. I believe that when Pastor are doing what they are suppose to do, as it is laid down in the Bible, we would have more Godly people in the nation who in turn will affect the nation for good. Bankers, Politicians, Government officers, Journalists and people of all cadres of work attend one church or the other. If Xtain Leaders in this nation will give room for the Spirit of God and not the Spirit of greed, if they would keep to God's word and his precepts alone and not their own dreams, if they would lead their in the way of the Lord and not in the way of lust, the miracle of having a better nation will happen shortly. Search the NT and you would find out that non of the Apostles or The Lord Jesus himself was busy on how to develop Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria etc. They were rather concerned with the business of transforming lives. When the lives of the people of a nation are transformed by the influence of God's word and Spirit, the nation will enjoy peace and wealth. Don't forget: RIGHTEOUSNESS PROMOTES A NATION The only sad thing is that MOST of those who are suppose to lead in proclaiming RIGHTEOUSNESS have turned out to be proclaiming and pursuing RICHES out of their selfishness and greed. SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF NIGERIA. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY (THE BAD EGGS AMONG THEM WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE MOST INFLUENTIAL) ARE NOT BUILDING THE BODY OF CHRIST. Xtain are the salt of the world, but when the salt looses his savor it becomes useless. I'm afraid that is the problem we have among believers in Nigeria in this present age. However, you and I as believers must keep contendind for the true faith that was delivered to us. And as citizens of Nigeria we must be ready to make Nigeria a better nation. God bless Nigeria! |
The fact she got pregnant before her wedding does not prove she's not a Christian; nor does it prove she's one.GOOD! |
@dammybee Your name abi, ![]() I too gbadun the name! |
Countdown to CL 2009 I stand in for whoever wins, cos my team is out! |
This reminds me of a friend who always leave a message on my answer phone to say Kay-yode called. His name as far s I know is Kayode. You couldn't make it up hahaha Lol ! ! !Some guys can actually pronounce their names but they are just trying to put up a front of a yankee sort of guy or chick. It is common with naija dudes who just return from foreign nations (London, USA etc) . I keep wondering what for? Superiority complex or Inferiority complex? I begi, If your name is Agunlegika, Pronounce it well, answer it well, and be proud you are Agunlegika and not Yvouvidiskiyon. I'm out of here! |
Good for the lad. Hope this wud step him up to a better club. |
5. A bank official might have compromise your card by having all your card details.There are some bad eggs in the Banking sector. I believe one of their staff cud have actually done it. |
********Just Speechless men, ********** |
much as much as i love to support ribadu i wont do it,you see one big problem who have in nigeria is doublestandards by our public officals,it is everywhere you go,go into any government office today and you will understand what i mean,why didnt ribadu ask obasanjo anything,why was he only against a selected group? |
I went to the Bank and saw this rough Dude.As be was trying to fill WU form on a pavement,his shirt flew up and I saw his rotten ass.He din't had panties on and I was like what the Hell, Na by force to immitate Oyinbo?Some even want you to see the cheap ibo made versace of whatever fake designer they have underneath but most of them look very dirty like panties they've been wearing for months.When you see it you feel throwing up. |
Well,two things might have happened; |
Or is it the traffic that is the root cause? i am trying to wonder whether the bankers in jigawa or ebonyi face this kind of stress like lagos bankers encounter daily? UndecidedI think the problem is synonymous to Lagos, considering other states. My friends who work in other states told me they close as early as 5-6pm and they are in their homes before 7pm. You know say everything for Lagos nah in excess we dey do ham! |
I will vote for an Ex-Politician's offspring if he or she has demonstrated the will to toe a different path away from the corrupt antics of his or her father. If the aspirant is honest and has a track record of excellence, he or she has my vote. I wouldnt want to judge people because they come from a certain family. Cheers. |
Pilgrim and kunle, both of you saying same thing here.I expect both of them to drop the issue 'cos it seems they have different intentions. When discussion like this turns into argument and misuse of words against one another, the wise thing to do is to drop the issue. |
@Pilgrim. 1 I'm not hear because of u. Hope u don't mind if I just ignore u at this point as your words have no more relevance to me. Bye! |
Actually, this issue about giving (whatever we term it: tithe, contribution, collection, etc) should not be taken as a personal fiasco. It does not have to hinge on whatever pilgrim.1 says or what KunleOshob feels - let's learn to see how we can balance issues for our mutual benefit and for others who are genuinely seeking what this is all about.Oh I now understand where you are coming from. I think this thread is about thanksgiving and offering. Why are you trying to narrow it down to giving just because you want to tell us to give in church. Well, I have a place I fellowship and I give offering every Sunday(for a relevant need). I understand that there are need for church administration and we need to give in support of that. My point, however, is that we must be wise to define what we are giving for, else we would been falling prey to the deception of those who twist the scriptures to raise money for themselves. Solosimple, I hope everything is okay with you? It seems you have problems and have deviated from addressing the discussion to taking things personally. Which one gets you going - your complaints, or the topic?Finally, u've manifested your true person. I didn't expect you would, perhaps because you know you can't.You not said anything meaningful or sensible. |

people of God gave to the poor who happens to be among them or believers in other places. The contributions that was done in the days of the Apostles were either distributed among saints according to their needs or sent to other saints in another place who are in need (they did not take the money to the poor in the street.***I don't mean to say that they weren't helping those who are not Christian and so we should not. Jesus feed multitudes of people among whom there are many who did not believe but are only interested in his gifts***)