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Yes because those in power at the club didn't enjoy being sidelined income of the decisions that concerns player management.

What were you expecting them to say? Allow him push them off where they got favors?

tbaba1234:
False, as far back as last year, Oliseh's behavior was described as a ticking timebomb

Sentiments shared sir.

Kog45:
Sir,let me end it here

Because a Dutch writer did, I should swallow such writings?

If he's got bad man management as being preached, why was he winning matches with the players thereby setting records? Was he using mercheneries?

Humility017:
nobody has a presumed mindset about him...
his nasty character is telling on him....
mind you same character he manifested when he handled the super eagles came to play in netherland..and watch...it will still play out in his next coaching job...he has a bad attitude...they've been many coaches fired or suspended because of Similiar issue may be refusal to party to the club dubious schemes if the allegations by oliseh is anything to go by...
but this coaches will never utter any of such irresponsible words he said after his suspension....

don't forget a Dutch journalist wrote about his poor man managerial skill some time ago which lead to the resignation of some of his backroom staffs....but we took it lightly and now the everything have been left open...and here you're talking about presumption

Thank God someone else is seeing beyond the media propoganda.

Mickael2:
it baffles me that people are even keying into that rubbish. I mean this was the same Oliseh that took a bunch of unknowns to the top of the league,winning almost all their games at home, if that does not mean that the players are behind their coach I wonder what is. Then Oliseh is sacked and they lost(AT HOME) to a team that they should have defeated handsomely, if that is not the players voicing out their disappointment I wonder what is.

Fortuna Sittard is a local team and most of the top guys want their kids playing for the first team, and this was why Oliseh was sacked

Your question has nothing to do with what I have been typing. Stay within the context of my post if we're discussing my post.

Kog45:
Sir you haven't answer my question

If oliseh was so bad as they have painted it, how then did he set all the records? With which players and staff? Shouldn't all of them be against him or at least most?

Make we reason am na.

Some poeple already have a pre-assumed mindset of Oliseh so anything that supports this, they lash on.

When things was rosy and he was enjoying good performance, some here we're putting up the 'but' in their statements waiting for one slip so they can say "I told you".


Weird set of Nigerians.

Why should I name one when I didn't argue any?

Are you reading my post at all?

There is no new coach with Oliseh's performance rate so far, when you find a new coach who set records for a club without one, we can discuss the "naming" thing.

Kog45:
Sir,pls named a coach sack with attitude issue not poor results then we end this and move on.

I read it and it's still the same "blank or general statement" things.

Meaning he got sacked because he dared to behave like how successful coaches behave at his own level?

If you check those against him at the club, you won't be surprised to find out that they are the unchangeable lots who are not ready to have anyone come change things without them.

Kog45:
Oh what a question,meaning you did not read Fortuna Sittard press release on his suspension or what went wrong between him and the club.

Pls can you name a coach sack due to bad attitude and not poor results then we continue.....

Who are the players he "disrespected" at fortuna, and also those staff and workers?

It's easy to paint people bad when they are to be thrown away.

I have at least read how he demoted some of their old players there who happened to be blocking the progress of the club and we all saw the effect in the club's performance

Some people are known to be against change and when they encounter people who come with drastic one, they fight tooth and nails against it.

Oliseh is a change enthusiast which happens to be very vocal, opinionated and blunt. These characteristics aren't what people are ready to face. People with these traits are hated almost by everyone who aren't in line with change or such character traits.


BTW, Ferguson was foul mouthed as a coach and even dealt with some known players.

Same with Mourinho
Same with Simione.
Roy keane

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/879086-the-20-angriest-coaches-in-sports
Same with Pep but he's very discreet with his own ways.

We have alot of coaches with these traits, difference is that they are already big so people don't count these traits as biggie again.

Maradona isn't left out, same with Gatuso.

List goes on.

tbaba1234:
Disrespecting players, staff and other workers at the club. I am curious to know your examples that match Olisehs'...

Okay just can't wait.

tbaba1234:
Usually the list is released 2 weeks before the game..So sometime in the second week of March

Haba, e too far na..

What about the one for the next friendly?

tbaba1234:
That will be released in May

Which still raises my question: what is that bad attitude that "only" Oliseh has that other coaches don't have?

Is it that a new coach isn't suppose to have it even if it's in alot of successful coaches?

Kog45:
On ghost mode reading your good discussion with Lucque and junnyake.

Pls think of this,one thing is cleared coaches get sack due to poor results but Olishe was sacked due to poor attitude.

What do you have to say on above paragraph.

Waiting for the list o..

35 man list o..

Hehe.. just pointing out how your statement would sound to some people, leave confusion on their minds.

goldfish80:
Yes, he died in a ski accident at the winter Olympics.

Define bad that's only found in Oliseh and no one else.

Define the bad that only Oliseh needs to be "rebuked" on even when ohers have it and are never rebuked like the way some do when it comes to Oliseh.

Lucque:
So because other kids are bad you won't correct urs wen he is wrong??

Is Neurer dead?

goldfish80:
Just like Ter stergen will always be 2nd choice if Manuel Neurer is alive.

And you think he's the worst of all coaches out out there character wise? Tried reading about some of the big names out there? What exactly makes him a bad character person? Let's use 2 incidence as a case study to see if it's just him or other good coaches have same traits.

junnyjake:
I'm a practical person, and I'd make an illustration with a simple electronic circuit made of two decoders.

in programming, we have just two important numbers which are (high) & 0(low) depending on the different intrinsic make up of the circuit, each of these input determines which out of the outputs of the decoder becomes active.

It would be stupid of me to input a low enabling line, without the presence of an inverter to an active high decoder line and expect a high output where I need it for the whole system to work.

So, I'm fully aware of every probable outcome of each and every parameters I have while designing.

How this relates to Oliseh? He's just starting out, you don't go about upsetting systems and structures that have already been established. Changes, no matter how beneficial are not effected in that manner. How did Mourinho, Pep, Capello, Biesla, Ferguson, Mancini etc. started their carriers.

It's not a matter of me being happy about his sacking, or expecting a trophy, I knew already before now that the path he was taking would lead to his eventual downfall, the question was 'when' and not 'if it was going to happen'.

As an employer, if I notice you have a character problem, I'd go ahead to employ you, if you are good at what you do, have someone understudy you, then fire your arrogant a$$ when I'm done with you.

Being good at what you do get you a job, but character puts you in the job.

And you think Oliseh's display folly of by going to the media and accusing the team of illegal activities, which I might suggest 'match fixing' would get him another job easily?

BTW, what working system does fortuna sittard have that didn't win them a pencil in 25 years? If the so called system was working, they wouldn't be where they are. To make things happen, you need people with strong opinionated mindset. Anyways since they feel he can't be worked with even after setting all the records the club currently have, they can as well part ways as done already.

You know little about Bostwana!

yeyerolling:
If only the whites had allowed mandela rule in the 1960s. SA for be lik botswana or burundi. The black man appears to be cursed

Torunarigha is rated as 67 in FIFA 2018 (game), mind you the game updates daily using their current form to either add or remove from their stats.

Balogun is around 76.

TheSuperNerd:
Bundesliga Action returns and we have the battle of the German machine-based Nigerian Rocks...


Torunarigha VS Balogun

Hertha Berlin Vs Mainz O5..... and both Jordan and Leon will be starting.

Leon Balogun will play on the right of a back three while Jordan Torunarigha will play in central defence on the left side near the LB in a back four.

Get ready for the match up people....

Minding your business is why the world has turned upside down.

Let's keep minding our business o.

When thieves that you refused to caution when they were younger come calling at your gate at night, don't call on neighbors to help you out o.

When prostitutes called slay mamas that you refused to caution when they were changing boyfriends like pads snatch your husband, give your brother disease, don't come disturbing us with so stories o.

It takes a community to raise sane people but when the community is filled with insane people, what do we do?

Let's keep minding our businesses wahon?

That means opening a filling station doesn't cost much then since the report didn't tell us how she gathered the money and for how long.

What was her kerosene Business like? On what scale was she selling, average profits per month etc?

Except she was getting the kerosene for free, or saved for a very long time (like 10-20 years) an average of #200k monthly or someone invested in the business for her to start up, then I wouldn't say more than this.

Wetin this one dey talk self? Nobi old men dey win electiona for America? Cos you get just 1-2, you dey make am sound like na young people dey run govt for Yankee.

Arondizuogu:
At 25 a councillor? Nigeria needs help. Speaker Paul Ryan became a US congressman at that age. UN ambassador Hayley was a state congresswoman at that age and a Governor by 32.

And you are happy it happened? You want a trophy for it? We know him to be very opinionated and "arrogant". Being sacked due to whatever reason given isn't peculiar to him alone so what's the fuse? Some of us here are even worse off attitude wise. His life, his issues. He's made his name already and this won't even stop him from getting another job having been a successful footballer.

junnyjake:
somehow, I hope you've seen what I've been telling you about Oliseh come to reality?

And the rest won't play too or everyone else will lose except El kanemi?

obaataaokpaewu:
If elkanemi gets 3points, they will move from 20th to 8th

Like he did some months ago too and did it stop this one? You think it's by trying to please everyone.

Mtchew.

Governors, take responsibility!

cosmatika:
In d next few days, u ll hear that President Trump visits Florida. But 73 ppl were murdered in Benue, Buhari said nothing

Like the same they did before that stopped this one abi?

vlogger:
Y'all just watch and see how their government would handle this school shooting. And maybe probably ban the rifle in some states and the killer boy would face the law. But here, our fulani herdsmen kill everyday and our government doesn't seem to care less. They just putting out propagandas here and there.

Time for the lad to come show his skills. been watching and reading their tweets (Sophia and co)

TheSuperNerd:
Good one especially when we consider Lateed Omidiji Jnr is based abroad.....

Nice read so far...

Waiting to see the 35 man list from the coach.

Greedy, stinginess and poverty is wonderful in this situation, don't bring God into it.

Narldon:


I just finished eating before someone started knocking at the Door


Is our God not wonderful?

Nigerians have gathered as usual to further pull down theirs.

A country filled up with sadist.

It's a circle, make una continue, your own turn dey come.

Meaning you as a person don't preach nor does your pastors preach since most including you can't preach with your life?

Chris Okotie, Chris Oyakhilome, Benny Hill e.t.c all still preach even though we know they have divorced their wives and some remarried when the bible teaches against divorce except if its infidelity, and you are not expected to remarry until the ex dies.

So what do you say about that? different rule for different people based on who you like or hate right?

ImaIma1:
A person who preaches is meant to preach with his/her life first. You cannot expect a homosexual, lesbian, transgender, etc...to come and preach God's word. I am supposed to block out what i see and just listen?

My pastor is married with children. That is what i see. His life preaches first before his mouth. Any other hidden thing is between him and God and cannot be hidden forever. Besides i worship God and not him.

Point of correction, my pastor doesn't dictate to me. I have a bible that makes what i should do clear.

The message and the messenger should be one. You cannot be drinking coke and you are advertising pepsi.

So you can excuse your pastor's hidden sins because hes not a media person, yet you're castigating another cos you can see his "girlfriend"? double standards right?

abegggggi!!!

He's preaching the word of God, he didn't ask you to copy his marital lifestyle, he's been married before same with the way he married, both of their spouses are alive and the bible said if you're divorced, you must stay single unless your ex dies.

For him not to keep having multiple partners, he decided to stick to one, is it a sin? yes, but i will leave that to God to decide when they meet.

Your pastor might be doing worse yet hides it yet he preaches to you, lay hands on your forehead and even dictates to you on what is right or wrong without you calling him out except you want to say your pastor is a saint. so just pick the message and leave the messenger alone.

ImaIma1:
I didn't say he is pastor. I said he preaches. What exactly is he preaching? That it is ok to live with a woman that you are not married to? Because that is what his life preaches.

You typed my mind!

tk4rd:
The fact that the society had made it the duty of guys to woo the lady, most guys are truly naive and can't woo..
So, only the very few guys that got the courage do the wooing and the fúcking. And these guys end up deflowering up to six or seven ladies in all their various adventures before finally settling down, while the naive guys stay alone waiting for who would genuinely love them..
And when the naive guys - who happens to be the majority of guys - finally get the lady that gave them enough attention, it always happens that the lady had already tasted all manner of chop-and-run courageous guys that had wooed them in the past.
It's nobody's fault anyway..
I'm just trying to say that most guys can't woo ladies, and thus, they decide to stay alone..
That means, more guys end up marrying as virgins than ladies.