I don't know, just telling you there was actual system error.
bishopkay: Isn't that their problem? Why would they pay over? They delayed payment saying they were fixing a new payment gateway. That was the same excuse in September; seriously? I laugh at those stupid corpers who think the country gives a flying fork about them. Continue SERVING you hear? Ur reward is in heaven! 19800 when no even reach chop food,they'd still delay it while looking for tactics to embezzle it.
How can this be considered to be the deadliest after 9/11 in America when few months ago, someone shot more than 70 poeple at a concert in this same US of A? Because it couldn't be linked to the religion America loves to blame for everything?
Amoze777: America is seriously under attack from both enemy within and without. Barely days after an ISIS sympathizer mauled several people dead, an attack considered as the deadliest since the 9/11 attack, another man at the weekend entered a church and gunned down more than two dozen Christians, mostly children.
The 26-year-old is thought to have lived in New Braunfels, a city on the outskirts of San Antonio, about 35 miles from where the attack, described as the worst mass shooting in the state’s modern history by Texas Governor Greg Abbot, took place in Sutherland Springs. [url] http://nationaldailyng.com/meet-the-anti-christ-who-killed-26-people-inside-a-church/[/url]
You mean I should become jobless and start searching for all your rantings that are on your mention just to be taken serious by a noise maker like you?
Until I see you on TV doing same things you are accusing others of not doing, you remain a noise maker.
anonimi: To be taken serious, you will have to show where so much public space is devoted to my life and where my twitter rants are posted on nairaland and even make its front page. Deal or no deal
And were you there too or just spamming the internet as usual?
anonimi: Was he with Charlie Boy when he was protesting successfully to force Bubu, leader of te 40 thieves cabal to end his medical tourism abroad and return home? Can anyone share Ali Baba's pictures at any of the rallies? Thanks in advance.
He was talking to the Pharisees and the saducees who were judist and under the law, they weren't Christians and Jesus was yet to fulfill he law then. Reason this well before you quote me.
Are you a Pharisee or saducee?
Did Jesus pay any tithe? Was it ever recorded any of the disciples/apostles paid tithe?
Tithe was for the Jewish people under the law but now that Christ have risen, Christians aren't under the law and tithe not applicable to us.
Matthew 23:23 (TLB) "Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders--hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things--justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone.
Tithes and offetings are principled in the kingdom of God. It has always been there before the law came . Right from the days of Abraham it has come to stay . Just like other principles like worship , prayer , alms , fasting etc . Testaments don’t change principles
We are saying the same thing bros but from different angles.
DanXplore: To be honest, i am quite busy. If u noticed, i did not give full scriptural references and even the few i mentioned where paraphrased. If i had the time, i would bring out all the scriptural references to tithe and prove to you that we are to even eat part of the tithe if we go by the actual standards of tithing. I might do that in future if i still remember this dialogue, but for now, I am squeezing out time to respond because this subject is very sensitive and the unveilment of truth is long overdue. You can choose to disagree at the inferences made if it does not agree with your understanding of the principles of the gospel as u like, that is not my business. What is most important is that you are truly saved.
Why are you trying to mix tithing up with giving? Jesus encouraged giving and not tithing, Jesus lived during the era of law but didn't pay tithe, none of his disciples did too, true or false?
He encoruaged giving without compulsion, any given borne out of compulsion have no heavenly blessings attached to it, true or false?
You still ended up flooding the whole place with Malachi 3:8-10
Did you bother to read Malachi 2 downward to see that the chapter in 3:10 was talking about the priests that gets 10% from the rest of the levites to fill up the house of God so that strangers and the orphanage/widows etc can see food to eat?
The order of tithe as at then which you can read from the verses I dropped.
3 types of tithes (all from land procduce and none from cash)
Yearly, 3 years and 7 years each
One for the levites which the levites are expected to give a 10th to the priest. ( I believe you know the difference between the levites and the priests?)
Another is for the tither to eat in the temple and in the presence of God
The last is for the tither to take to the temple to feed both the levites, homeless, animals, fatherless, widows e.t.c which is done every 7 days.
Please I'm not here to argue with you, I am here to make you understand what tithing is, how it was expected to be done and by who to who.
Now that there is no more temple in Jerusalem (destroyed by the Muslims and yet to be rebuilt), there is no more levites in Israel or anywhere else in the world. The site of the temple in this present day house a very BIG mosque in the center of Jerusalem. Do your own research, read Jewish books (those were the tither practictioner not Christians.
Tithe was for Jews and judist and not for Christians. Paying tithe means you are trying to buy God's favor via "works"!
adegeye38: Honour the Lord with your wealth, and the first fruit of all your crops and your barn will be filled with over flowing, and your Vats will brim over with new wine"
If the world and everything in it truly belong to the Lord, why wouldn’t this principle be true?
This isn’t the only time that the Lord promises his people that he’ll reward generosity with plenty (Deut. 15:10; Prov. 11:25; Malachi 3:8–12).
The challenge is that one must have the faith to give sacrificially to see if the Lord keeps his word.
The robbing of God (Mal. 3:8–9)Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, “How have we robbed you?” In your tithes and contributions. You are cursed with a curse, for youare robbing me, the whole nation of you"
Christ also talks about how to tithe the right way, he also talks about not tithing as an act of duty, but on faith for further study....
-Testing God in the tithe (Mal.3:10–12)
-Giving in secret (Matt. 6:1–4)
-The faithful giver (Mark 12:41–44)
-.Tithing and justice (Luke 11:42)
- Tithing and pride (Luke 18:9–14)
In the end, tithing wasn’t something God's people did in the same way we mindlessly toss a gratuity down with our bill at a restaurant.
It was an intentional practice through which God intended to teach his people about his sovereign ownership of everything.
Instead of being consumers of their blessings, they had to stop and think through just how much blessing they had.
Through the tithe, God took care of his people—and through the act of generous giving, God continues to bless his people.
Yes it was made for the levites and also for the down throden/strangers in the land.
Levites were forbidden from owning properties or working outside the temple, so their own part of the inheritance in Israel was the 10th gotten from the other tribes (only land produce).
DanXplore: The primary purpose of tithing is not to feed levites with it. According to the program of God, tithing was meant for those who could not cater for themselves. Now, since the Levites were not to work or have portions like the other 11 tribes, part of the tithe was to be their inheritance. It is an exaggeration on your part to say tithing in its totality is an inheritance for the levites. They are only subsets of those who are to partake of tithes. Other partakers are widows, the homeless etc. Levites are only entrusted to be custodians of the keys to the store house and according to the principle that says that oxes should not be muzzled while treading the grains, it becomes expedient that they partake of the collections...in addition to the fact that they were not to work
Certain things are not explicitly stated in the bible but by deductive logic, one could draw meaningful principles by connecting scripture with scripture. If God had left Israelites to make their own rules, they would have adopted a laissaz-faire system of economy where no one cared for the other. atleast we can see this from the lamentations of the prophets of old. Every rule was made to promote a system of love and unity. Alot of laws such as eye for eye and so many others were written in the old testqment and if not that Jesus mentioned somewhere in the gospels that those laws were made by Moses becauseof the wickedness of their hearts, we would have thought it was God that made that law.
God made all the laws to benefit man. Jesus himself said the law was made to serve man. God foresaw the greed in men's heart and their proclivity to neglect those in need, as adumbrated in the story of cain and abel, tithing was then a good measure to control it. That a verdict is not explicitly stated in the bible does not in any way discredit it's truthfuless when common logic supports it. It will at most limit its receptivity
No, you said tithe was instituted because the other 11 tribes of Israel we're greedy and I disputed that by proving via the bible why it was instituted at that time and why tithe is no longer needed in this dispensation. Jews don't even pay tithe again because the temple has been destroyed. I don't pay tithe, was only correcting a wrong notion in your write up.
DanXplore: All i have said is within the boundaries of these scriptures. I doubt that you went through these references that you probably copied hook, line and sinker from the internet before posting else you would see that it clearly defines all i have been saying.
If you like, give your tithe, i am not against it as long as it is from a heart of faith and revelation. But the fact is that tithing is as powerless as worshipping on the sabbath. It does not mean they're wrong, it just means that they have no effect when it comes to your spiritual being.
Apart from Malachi 3:10 most of you quote out of context, kindly drop bible references showing God asked us to pay money as tithe to him.
I am waiting for the bible verses.
Thanks
adegeye38: every reference to tithe in d entire bible but the old and the new testament spoke in support of it
Jesus Christ refrences to tithe all supported tithing
Tithing is not an obligation, but a spiritual thing between the tither and God
tithing is an act of faith, and the blessings are wat u experience, so am not speaking abstractly no one forces me to pay tithe, it was a biblical and mainly personal conviction due to my faith.
some time people like you think you have reason and logic, but when it comes to God ur logic and reason equals foolishness
I look at Freeze and i see a man,
whose Knowledge of God is Zero
whose understanding of Christianity is Zero
whose knowledge of God's word is Zero
and he calls himself a bible teacher, you are teacher of the world of a "God" you have absolutely no knowledge of
the bible is not a textbook, but light, God speaks to you from the bible,sometimes God speak to you and what he says matches wat is in d bible
Is dat not logic and reasoning defying?
so sometimes wen freeze talks i laugh, thinking in his own mind he has made perfect sense, whereas he has just said something extremely foolish based on extreme ignorance.
If you are not a born a gain Christian, give ur life to him, Christ say unless a man his born again he will not see the kingdom of God, its a spiritual reborn that will resonate on ur physical life and all you have to do is accept Christ as your Lord and saviour
and you will see the Light and experience life in a whole new way, because Christianity is not a religion but Life itself
a day is coming that that will be d only thing that matters.
DanXplore: The primary purpose of tithing is not to feed levites with it. According to the program of God, tithing was meant for those who could not cater for themselves. Now, since the Levites were not to work or have portions like the other 11 tribes, part of the tithe was to be their inheritance. It is an exaggeration on your part to say tithing in its totality is an inheritance for the levites. They are only subsets of those who are to partake of tithes. Other partakers are widows, the homeless etc. Levites are only entrusted to be custodians of the keys to the store house and according to the principle that says that oxes should not be muzzled while treading the grains, it becomes expedient that they partake of the collections...in addition to the fact that they were not to work
Certain things are not explicitly stated in the bible but by deductive logic, one could draw meaningful principles by connecting scripture with scripture. If God had left Israelites to make their own rules, they would have adopted a laissaz-faire system of economy where no one cared for the other. atleast we can see this from the lamentations of the prophets of old. Every rule was made to promote a system of love and unity. Alot of laws such as eye for eye and so many others were written in the old testqment and if not that Jesus mentioned somewhere in the gospels that those laws were made by Moses becauseof the wickedness of their hearts, we would have thought it was God that made that law.
God made all the laws to benefit man. Jesus himself said the law was made to serve man. God foresaw the greed in men's heart and their proclivity to neglect those in need, as adumbrated in the story of cain and abel, tithing was then a good measure to control it. That a verdict is not explicitly stated in the bible does not in any way discredit it's truthfuless when common logic supports it. It will at most limit its receptivity
God didn't make tithe a law because of greedy people, rather it was an inheritance for the levites then since they had no share in the land then.
Even the Jews no longer pay tithe because the temple has been destroyed and until it's rebuilt, there is no real levite out there again.
DanXplore: I am a Christian and i love God and it is my civic obligation to acknowledge the truth. What freeze in his own unique way has said is the pure truth. I might not be the wisest man on earth but when i hear the plain truth i know.
Tithing was and is never a part of the new covenant. I repeat, tithing is not a part of the new covenant. While i know that most pastors teach tithing out of a heart of sincerity, the doctrine in itself is wrong! It is bad and dangerous when error is taught with utmost sincerity and zeal. Zeal that does not come from knowledge and truth is catastrophic.
What God requires in the new covenant is obedience. Not following some old ritual.
Nevertheless, your actions become spiritual when faith is applied it. If u decide to give 10% to a local assembly because you feel their is a need to be met or because you want to honour God, then that is fine. Another person can decide to give 50%. All is done according to one's faith. If the church fully practices what the founding fathers practiced as christianity, people will even give more than 10%. Authentic blessing will flow if one follows the teachings of Jesus.
Tithing came with the Law and is of the law. Abraham tithed before the law to honour a man of God, melchizedeck. God had to make tithing a command because the people were inherently greedy and so he had to force a way, by means of the law, to cause men to give. This is not so in the new covenant. Our giving should not be forced based on some religious promulgation, but based on the love and truth that is on the tablets of our heart.
Scripture is palpable enough to be misconstrued. Paul said if he could not spare his Son, how much more will he give us all things. James said true religion is to help those in need. Your love for God is seen in service to men. God will not bless you because you are faithful in giving 10% of your money but rather in your consistency in maintaining the character of christ in your environment. In another place, it says he has given unto us all that pertain to life and godliness through the knowledge of Jesus christ...NOT through the law. knowledge in this context represents the systems of the kingdom of Christ which is predicated upon love, trust and sincerity and not some law.
PointZerom: During the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, He used the highest means of transportation (Horse). It is not a sin if a pastor uses private Jet which is also the highest means of transportation as at today.
hope you are not lying for God? You must be lying for your pastor. Jesus didn't at no time ride a horse except you are reading a fake bible.
What he rode was a BORROWED colt and only to signify the "second coming". (Triumphant entry).
Yes giving must be without compulsion and must be sacrificial. Tithe is the opposite and Christians aren't bond to it.
OBAGADAFFI: Giving is part of Christianity, but must be willingly.
But any giving in Christianity must be sacrificial.
He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. [3] "I tell you the truth," he said, "this poor widow has put in more than all the others. [4] All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on
Are you a Jew or a Christian? Jesus was operating under the Jewish/Judaist system when he was on earth even though he didn't pay tithe for once nor his followers. After his death closed the chapter of "holiness by works" and opened the chapter of "holiness by grace".
Please to know how to be a true Christian, read more of Matthew to John. You will get the gospel of Jesus Christ. If whatever you're doing is outside Christ's teachings, you are nothing but a judist/Muslim.
ooshinibos: Daddy freeze quoted Matthew 23:23 but he did not finished the verse he quote ...Jesus did not say people should not pay tithe , he actually said , -..people have neglected the weightier portion of the law , justice and mercy and faithfulness but these are things they should have done without neglecting the others referring to the TITHE ..read it for yourself
Lying just to prove others wrong? Can you name names?
ooshinibos: some northern clerics have private jets , ..apart from Nigeria ..Saudi Arabia and UAE have clerics that hat private by the way .. I support pastors that have private jet if its is used for the work of ministry . The issue here people are used to associating poverty with Christianity- this is wrong
anochuko01: but you've seen the one that marries a teen... what about the one that supports religious killing? or the sheeples that blow themselves up? truth is, if you dare, they'll blow you up, simple!
Have you ever called anyone yet to be convicted a thief before? Think before you answer.
HIGHESTPOPORI: Zombie,you call him theif when he has not be convicted,Buhari refused to obey court orders,how do you zombie reason,you are stil the person that keeps defending Apc politicians
You made it sound like Nwakali is invited to fill a DM vacant position. Check all your comments so far. Except he was called upon for another position, the DM isn't vacant!
tbaba1234: The coach has the prerogative on the positions, he intends to fill.
If he is looking for an extra DM, that is his decision
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