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Jesus is not the liar..

It is the authors of the fictional story that are to blame...

They are just writing stories and making up events as they go along. They never said they know jesus or somebody that knows him. They did not even say why they wrote the story or how it affected them and why people should believe it.....


That Is why the Catholic church who has the patent right to the jesus character never wanted anybody to own a copy of the new testament. Cardinal Worsley is on record to have said "if we don't destroy this invention now, this invention will one day destroy us"...this was after a certain German invented the printing press...
Just like every fictional tale ...the characters come and go....

Nooo..

It only means God has not sanctioned what he said...

In any case, maybe he miss heard what God said..

The language of God is silence..

jaephoenix:
Who and where is this spiritualist?

Somebody well vexed in spiritual matters..

jaephoenix:
Where's this oracle? Who has access?

A spiritualist...

jaephoenix:
How do you know this? Again I ask

Through the oracle...

Maynman:
All you do is assume on ignorance with no references. You have no facts or evidences to your jargons.
You lack knowledge on this topic and instead of you to sit down and learn you’ll be throwing tantrums.

Do you think tanakh is an history book?
Do you think the book of isiah was written in one century?
Do you think book of Isaiah was written by “isiah”.

Before you make assumptions, try to have knowledge on it, not everyone is an illiterate like you.

My candid advice.

This is your cyrus story that you’ve been basing your life on without proper knowledge.

You see what I mean...

Which point have you made now?

The Torah is still about The two brothers Enki and Enlil. The only difference is who is telling the story....The Elohim is divided into two sides, the right side which comprises of Enlil, his sons and daughters and the left side which is Enlil, his sons and daughters...
The Baals and Asherahs are the sons and daughters of Enlil. They where in charge or kings and queens over those cities...
So try to read and understand first...you might not need to argue blindly...

Maynman, all you do is copy and paste and screen shot from Wikipedia without proper understanding. I have been following this conversation..,it leaves little to be desired from you..

All you do is jump in, without even trying to understand anything. Then you go off tangent to post a screen shot from Google without even trying to read the whole article...

You won't learn like that.

Just my candid advice...

Way...to where?

NNTR:
You are a spiritual being, with a soul, who is housed in a body, and you have the spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka wind of God, that gives you, the power of continuance of life in the land of the living.

The moment, you draw your last breath, because the spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka wind of God, has expired, then means, you physically die and cross over from the land of the living into the abode of the dead.

Now watch this. The heavenly hosts, (i.e. celestial beings) too are spiritual beings, just as you are, however the difference between you and them is one thing. The soul. You have a soul, you are soul, soul is you, but celestial beings do not have souls.They dont have soul like human being and animals have souls

Good.

Matthew 10:28
Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Well, if you dont know that the soul does need to be saved from damnation and destruction, then means you've been deceived

If you dont know that human being are tripartite, and that the soul (i.e. which is you) is distinct and that the soul (i.e. which is you), is recognisably different from the spirit, then betrays a level high of incompetence, that kept prisoner within the limits of intellectual confinement and rendered you unexposed to this basic eternal truth

[bHebrews 9:27][/b]
And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once
and after this [comes certain] judgment,

2 Corinthians 5:10
All of us must appear in front of Christ's judgment seat.
Then all people will receive what they deserve for the good or evil they have done while living in their bodies.

No one has said anything about judgment for spirit.

Whats to judge about the spirit, when essentially, it merely is a life-force simply, that also doubles up as a glorified recorder and an antenna for receiving info, instructions, communications transmitted from heavenly realms

Without the spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka wind of God breathed into Adam's nostril, he would have remained an inanimate soul (i.e. a lifeless soul)

The moment the spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka breath of God expires in the body, the soul of that human being, will vacate the body, essentially be transported out of that body, to a lounge place to await departure to place on day that Judgment will occur.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Death acquits us....


Man is a soul made up of spirit from God+ body from earth...

God made the body from the dust of the earth then he breathed into its nostrils, Man became a living soul. Man is dual components...

Not three.

Man needs only two parents not three...


I don't know why it is hard to comprehend?

The man's sperm carries the spirit, that's why it is called living waters..

NNTR:
Any 'With no understanding.' is actually plaguing you

1. After death what happens to the spirit, as in meaning, where does the spirit return back to and/or where does the same spirit end at?
2. After death what happens to the body, as in meaning, where does the body return back to and/or where does the same body end at?
3. After death what happens to the soul, as in meaning, where does the soul go to and/or where does the same soul end at?

When the spirit expires in your body, thats when you physically die, and your soul, (i.e. you) gets transported to a waiting lounge.

You cease operating in the land of living , when your breath expires (i.e. when the spirit returns back to its Owner)

You are dead to the land of the living, but you are alive, after crossing over, being that you'll (i.e. Soul, which is you) have to give account where you step in to the dock on Judgment Day

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

1. There is nothing like after death..we are spiritual beings dwelling within a physical body made from dust. The spirit returns back to God(universe) Psalm 104;29-31.
2. The body was made from the dust of the earth. It is buried or cremated for it to return back to the earth and becomes one with it...
3.tge soul ceases to exist. It is when the spirit enters the body that it becomes a soul. A soul simply means a conscious being. When God takes the sport the soul experiences "death"
No, the soul is the sport dwelling within the body. That. Is a living body is a soul. The spirit goes to the owner. It belongs to God (his breath) it is pure and does not need to be saved from anything..

Judgement is only for the living..

There is no where in the bible that speaks of judgement for a spirit ...

It can be sent by God to finish its mission if it has not completed it....

NNTR:
Genesis 2:7
then the LORD God formed [that is, created the body of] man from the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and the man became a living being (i.e. a living soul, an individual complete in body and spirit)

Human being bodies are required in order to lawfully and legally operate on earth,.
Now, a human being comprises of a body, soul and spirit.

On this side of eternity, particularly, in the land of the living, when the spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka breath of God, habits a body, the soul becomes a living soul

The spirit, aka life-force, aka ruach, and aka breath of God, came and/or comes from God, while, its the body, that is made from dust.

You are soul, and vice versa, meaning, soul is you.
It is your soul, meaning, it is you, who will give account of all your thoughts, deeds, actions conversations, et cetera on Judgment Day, when you had the body.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Hahaah, you are just pissing every where..

With no understanding.

God sends the spirit into the body made from dust and it became a living soul..

When God takes his spirit it becomes a dead soul or body....
Why are you dancing about like a headless chicken...

Maynman:
You see, much better than assuming on ignorance and lying on “real scholars”.

I meant "copy and paste" without proper understanding...and screen shotting..

terrezo2002:
I need to teach you. But I doubt you will learn cos your mind is filled. Empty yourself of those wrong knowledge and humble yourself to learn the truth.
1. God is the Father of Jesus Christ. The baby in womb of Mary was Jesus. For the purpose of restoring mankind, He sent His Son in the form of man.
2. 2 Chronicles 7:14 actually says if you repent, He will forgive you. I doubt you even read the verse. You just quote based on what you are told or what you copied from others.

If I repents

He forgives me,

When did he tell you he will impregnate another man's wife?

elated177:
Ihe efu! You have not freed your own mind and you want to free the mind of Elated177 who has been born of the Spirit of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God? How foolish of you, sonmvayina!

You just quoted the words of the Son and the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, Yahushua the Messiah, whom you claim is fictional character. Hilarious! Can you now see how confused you are, sonmvayina?

Lol...

Your case is unredeemable...

Maynman:
There’s only one evil, and it’s Ignorance.

Whose ignorance?

From where ?

Human mind or....

terrezo2002:
God who created man and woman can also put baby in the womb of a woman without sexual intercourse

Then who will be the baby's father and where will he be from?

Why did he create a man?

God can put a baby in a woman's womb without a man but he can't forgive us when he repent sincerely....like he asked in 2nd chronicles 7:14...

I think it high time you change God

HellVictorinho7:
that's not ur worst,u can as well go offpoint like Kobojunkie

Stick to your begging...

Leave these matters for intellectuals...

MaxInDHouse:
Then Witnesses are useless in this case!

Yes they are...

Or can you name one person who actually heard him speak. Is it not worrisome for the "son of God" to make an entrance and no body noticed..

MaxInDHouse:
Ok no wahala make him obey your Yahweh!

The creator of heaven and earth..

Texcyndy:
You guessed. Wild assumptions.
Matthew, Mark, Like, John were not anonymous. They were known people.

Matthew is also referred to as Levi, the son of Alphaeus, the Tax Collector who later became the follower of Jesus.
He was with the other 10 disciples at the ascension of Jesus, providing the eyewitness account in Matthew 28:16-20.

John Mark traveled with Saul and Barnabas on their first missionary journey (Acts 13:5). Other comments of Paul in Philemon 24 and 2 Timothy 4:11 show how Paul appreciated Mark and found him “helpful in ministry” (2 Timothy 4:11).
Even though Mark was not considered an immediate disciple of Jesus, he was found in the presence of the apostles and disciples throughout the early church.

Luke
First, we know he was a highly educated man. In Colossians 4:1, Paul refers to Luke as ‘the doctor.’
much of the language and writing styles are consistent with a first-century physician (Acts 28:6). Second, the many Greek expressions throughout both Luke and Acts would also suggest that he was not of Hebrew origin. He was a Greek gentile writing to other Greeks, hence why many Jewish traditions mentioned in the Gospel of Luke are so detailed.

John was the son of Zebedee and the brother of James (who was among the first disciples called to follow Jesus).

Let me do what Maynman does best..

The gospels are anonymous..

It was the church who added those names..

elated177:
Yet you are fixated on it like your whole existence depended on it.

Ezi ohia, you are, sonmvayina.

You don't even know what independent thinking means, sonmvayina.

I am trying to take the chains of your mind...

But you are foolishly not having it....

Spirit can't impregnate a woman.

What is born of spirit is spirit

What is born of flesh is flesh...


They are two different realms.....

Maynman:
why “who”, why not “what”?

Which ever one you choose....


I need your input...

MaxInDHouse:
I will prefer CULT a million times than arguing endlessly without agreeing on terms with those living around me!

We are just smoothing the rough edges..

End of the day he obeys the divine laws...

That's all that is required...

MaxInDHouse:
The true God arranged for four persons to bear witness about His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, they are:
1 Matthew
2 Mark
3 Luke
4 John
Jesus later said his own Witnesses will be in all nations of the earth {Act 1:8} and today a group is zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood today about God's Kingdom emphasizing on the part Jesus played in the past and what he will still do in the future.
So after seeing JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but you still harbor doubts then you're not ready for the truth!

You want to pretend you don't know the gospel were written by anonymous authors....that it was the Catholic church that added those names..

I guess the Catholic churchpope Alexander) is the god after all..and his son(Cesare Borgia's) is Jesus Christ....


Now you know....

elated177:
What do we make of a certified dumbo, who is unaware of his "dumboness", calling someone who is trying to enlighten him, a Dumbo? We call it a clear case of "ihe efu" and the height of iberiberism.

Save that pity for your pitiful confused self, sonmvayina.

Is it not the people who came to enslave your ancestors that sold you that story of God impregnating another man's wife...and you foolishly believed it...

Atulu like you...

No capacity for independent thought..

terrezo2002:
I am in the truth. Come learn from me

Truth!!

That God impregnated another man's wife?

Maynman:
Which of the gods are you thanking illiterate?

Continue to bask in your ignorance.

Do you think the tanakh has only one deity?

Don't let concern you..

So back to my op..

Who brings the evil?

Maynman:
El.
El.
El.

El was the one that gave israEl to yahweh as inheritance.
The books in the tanakh goes beyond “jew”.
Didn’t i show you earlier that judaism is from yahwism?

This is world history, call me “world history scholar” bwahahahah

Thank you...

I understand the myth now.....

Maynman:
El.
El.
El.

El was the one that gave israEl to yahweh as inheritance.
The books in the tanakh goes beyond “jew”.
Didn’t i show you earlier that judaism is from yahwism?

This is world history, call me “world history scholar” bwahahahah

Thank God you laugh for the end. Because you know say you dull.

Continue to hype your ignorance..

So El is the one that called Cyrus by name ?

And asked him to free the captives in Isaiah 45 ?

Texcyndy:
Dtruthspeaker is right. How do you measure truth?

I don't know..


Is that not why you need two or three witnesses in a court case....

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So argue with him over what he knows against what you know after all each of you only rely on his own point of view there's nothing to point as living proof of what you're arguing on!

Thank you..

But we can't complicate it by belonging to a cult....

Nah