₦airaland Forum

cornelboy:
No.

And you just believe because you read it from a book.

And what are you again?

cornelboy:
Nothing you say here can disprove the facts that spirit beings exist.

Have you seen any?

OkCornel:
Humor me some more. Apostle Peter that was killed by Nero as part of the persecution of the Christians by the Roman Empire is a ghost too right?

Pontius Pilate that condemned Jesus to death is also a fictional character corroborated by Tacitus right?

It was the Christians that reported those. Not historians...these your point does not hold water,

OkCornel:
Where was Christianity derived from?

The Romans that persecuted Christians, crucified some and fed some to lions?

Tell me another joke abeg.

Christianity started in Egypt as the worship of serapis.it is not based on a demi god. The idea of God mating with human is not part of Judaism...

I told you before that whatever those Jewish scholars know about Jesus , they heard them from Christians....

And we have shown here that Christianity is not derived from Judaism, so where dafuq did jebus come from?

OkCornel:
He existed. Case closed.

Now entertain me some more.

No he didn't.

You can end this discussion by providing testimonies by People who actually saw him and heard him.

Or a historian reporting about the earthquake that happened at his execution

Or the zombies coming out from their graves..

Or Herods infanticide...

Any of these will do..

MaxInDHouse:
And live for how long?

70 years

Three score and ten.

MaxInDHouse:
When i find a better performing group!

It is not about a group.

Are you scared of being alone, is it that you don't enjoy your own company?

Hmm..your problems are deeper seated..

MaxInDHouse:
Adam was to live where and for how long?

Lol...
What I saw was, he was to "Replenish the earth"

Did you miss that part.

MaxInDHouse:
Improvement is personal you can't help anyone if there's no visible proof that you yourself have improved!

Lol..you are just trying to be funny.

When you are ready to let go of your beliefs and embrace truth and reality.

I will be here..

MaxInDHouse:
Bible!

Really?

Quote the passage, because I saw something different.

Bleepbleep:
Jesus asked. What kind of a father when asked for food by his child would rather give him snakes.

Guess what??

Your bible god gave his children snakes in the wilderness because they disobeyed him.. lol.

Jesus said. A thief commeth not but to kill, steal and distroy. And that is what the bible god did.


In the bible you will see Jesus saying. " Moses said this... But I say this ..

This is a way him letting you know that the Christian god was not the true God. He was just one of those Elohim that came from the sky..

We are very backward because rather than look within, take responsibility, work together in love and one accord. We tend to be cry babies ..so very religious we rather choose to religious bigots.

I know it's hard. It's what we've been birn into , thought from small and it's already oart if us. But there is still time to think deep. To reflect. And become responsible to ourselves. The unbelievers die just the way the xtians die.
They do business just the way the xtians do.
They get sick just the way the xtians do
Xtians loss their loved ones and fall sick just the way unbelievers do.

But we tend to find excuses for this "Sky Daddy" and fight for him.

The western world spend time on research añd knowledge seeking. They hold themselves responsible for their mistakes. They spend time working and trying to find solutions to problems. They invent most of the technologies that works like magic of which we in Africa majorly consumes massively. We spend millions and billions buying this techs from them.

Whilst we sit down praying to some Sky god to help out without taking any major reasonable steps.

Wake up pls.

Exactly...

Waiting for the god that was used to subdue us to come and save us..how gullible can one be..

People just say and write a lot of things without even stopping for a moment to listen to themselves or try to make sense of what they are saying..

You have to understand what you believe before trying to convince somebody else about it.

The purpose of the new spirit of God is to make you aware, to increase your awareness. If you have the spirit and you still believe a woman gave birth without the input of a man you are still in the same place. Or you believe a man defiled gravity and went to space. It means you have not made any progress.

Awareness comes with knowing who you are. Like a sage once said "Man know thyself"
The second is understanding that the kingdom of God is within you..you understand the singularity of the dual concepts...
Thirdly is to see everyone as a version of you and treat them accordingly. Lastly it be ones effortless to obey the divine laws..you will learn to forgive yourself and by extension ...others.

Then, truly them can you be regarded as "Righteous"

God is the universe itself.

God is existence itself.

It is not something that is outside of us, we are in it, it is in us. It is in him we have our being.

It is called different names in different cultures...

This is Marduk, Osanobua, chukwu, Ra, Hashem, Eledumare, Vishnu or Brahma, etc...with the universe as his garments...same being, different nomenclature..


I just pray people stop looking at my fingers when I am pointing to the moon..

LOOK AT THE MOON.

God is everything and everywhere..

God is the universal consciousnesses...personified

The God of Hezue, Nzemeke and Okolie...(all my ancestors). .

Only slaves worship their masters god....

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible humans are supposed to live on this planet forever as youths but the sin of one PERFECT man brought death to the entire human race.
It's the SACRIFICE of a perfect human life that can redeem mankind so mankind need it for our salvation! Psalms 49:7-9
So Jesus is the Sacrificial lamb that takes away the sin of the world! Isaiah 53:7

Where did you get that from?

OkCornel:
So according to you, the Israelite author - Isaiah uses the collective pronoun “WE” and “US” in Isaiah 52 v 2-3, and those collective pronouns does not refer to Israel BUT;

The singular pronoun “HE” which is further clarified to be “A MAN” (the suffering servant) is Israel?

Are you examining your thought process at all? Does this make any sense to you?

It is not Isaiah that is talking.

He was writing what the king of the earth would say when they discover that the Jews where innocent and right all along..

MaxInDHouse:
Facts supposed to WORK OUT what is VISIBLE and BENEFITIAL to one and all.
So if you can't point to any benefit enjoyed by adherents of your beliefs how are you sure that it's facts?

You are still not getting it.

Do you want to improve yourself?

If yes, it is not about crowd or affiliations.

Break the boundaries....learn.

It will make you uncomfortable at first, but it is worth it.

MaxInDHouse:
Where are their WORKS?

Jehovah's Witnesses (working with Jesus) is also a group that has used what is written in the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities, diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, erased politics and racism from all their hearts making them vow never to enrol in military services for war! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Can any of those groups do the same?

Do you want to improve YOURSELF?

OkCornel:
Prophet Isaiah is an Israelite author of Isaiah 53 right? If yes, look at the pronouns used in Isaiah 52 v 2-3 I brought out as an example.

Who does the singular pronoun “HE” refer to?
Who does the collective pronoun “US” and “WE” refer to?

Remember, the author of that passage is an Israelite. So please, how can the suffering servant be Israel in this context? Hmmm?

Start from the last chapter of 52 you will understand who is talking..
Clue: they where the kings of the earth. No Isaiah.

MaxInDHouse:
Where are they?
So i can know how well they're ORGANIZED since everyone in religion believes they're walking in God's light. Matthew 7:16-18

Those who follow his commandments.

Be rest assured there are millions of people who do.

These are groups you can join.

MaxInDHouse:
Each person is entitled to his own PERSONAL opinion!

I agree.

But you don't follow facts. That is the difference between you and me..

cornelboy:
Lol. That's totally incorrect.
Why would Babylonians have the story of how Israelites left Egypt and journeyed to the promise land?

Read again.."edited"..
Judaism became the national religion of the Jews when they left Babylon from the exile. God sent everyone there to go and learn about him.

This teaching is better done on phone.
So you can understand well

MaxInDHouse:
When you are able to present an organized people practicing what you believe that's the time to call me for inspection as for now keep preaching what is in your head!

Lol..is it about crowd?

Or those walking in Gods light?
Choose for yourself.

cornelboy:
Your very far in what exactly?

Life is about the journey.(from Egypt to the promised land, i.e from ignorance to spiritual enlightenment) I have already crossed the red sea and heading there, you are still comfortable in Egypt (i.e ignorance). ..

That is the extent.

cornelboy:
See if you have anything tangible to bring just bring it.

Was the Torah inspired by God or work of literature?

The Torah was edited from the Babylonian Torah by Ezra when they left the Babylonian exile. It is the official book of Judaism. Which is the national religion of the Jewish nation .

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is alive!

No..he is just a figment of somebody's imagination..

cornelboy:
So how far have you gone with your open minded mentality?

Very far.

You have not even set out for your own journey..

cornelboy:
Yes

What does it mean ?

MaxInDHouse:
OK no further questions, shey?

Where do I start from?