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cornelboy:
Sorry I don't wanna discuss anything with you.

I believe that the Bible in whatever language it was written, is inspired by the creator of the universe and only the JWs have the accurate interpretation.

Good luck with your new found faith

If this is not delusion, what is it?

There Are Different Kinds Of Souls. There Are Old Souls & There Are New Borns.

New Borns Are People That Are Here For The First Time.

They Are Experiencing Everything For The First Time.

So They Want To Be At Every Party. Want To Do Everything. Want To Smoke. Want To Drink.

New Borns Are Loud. They Are The People That Always Say They Get "Bored Easily". Those Are New Borns. Very Impatient. Very Curious.

On The Other Hand You Have Old Souls. An Old Soul Is Quiet.

A Lot Of Things Feel Pointless. Old Souls Don't Mind Being Alone.

They Enjoy Their Own Company. They Don't Care About Being Famous. Don't Care About Trends.

An Old Soul Can Be 19 On The ID But 45 Spiritually.

Listening To Music People Their Age Can't Understand.

Always On Torah. Reading About Topics People Their Age Can't Understand.

An Old Soul Has Been Here Before. Nothing About The World Feels New.

Nature Is Their Happy Place. While New Borns Prefer The Club & So On.

Only For Torah Conscious Minded People.

If this idea is not pagan, I don't know what is..

The Christian idea of a trinity contradicts the most basic tenet of Judaism - that G-d is One. Jews have declared their belief in a single unified G-d twice daily ever since the giving of the Torah at Sinai - almost two thousand years before Christianity.

The trinity suggests a three part deity: The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).

In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry; one of the three cardinal sins for which a person should rather give up his life than transgress. The idea of the trinity is absolutely incompatible with Judaism.

MaxInDHouse:
Black Jew!

Lol...

I prefer Delta man

Christianity believes that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

The Torah states that God cannot not take any form.:

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

"You did not see any form on the day God spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

As little as we may know about God's nature, Judaism has always believed that God is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. God is Eternal, He is Infinite; above time and beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die.

Christianity denies the eternal relevance of Torah Law, basing the concept of the New Testament on a mistranslation of a verse in Jeremiah
In Jeremiah 31:30 the Hebrew states: "Henei yamim baim Neum Hashem VeCharati Brit Chadash" They translate: "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new Testament with the house of Israel "

"Brit" does not mean Testament. Throughout Scripture "Brit" means covenant. See for example Genesis 17:2, 15:18 Exodus 24:8, Leviticus 26:42, Numbers 25:12.

It is a fundamental principle of Judaism that the Torah received at Sinai will never be changed nor become obsolete. This concept is mentioned in the Torah no less than 24 times, with the words: "This is an eternal law for all generations"

(Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy29:28)

It is absurd to accept the Divine origin of the Torah yet deny it's eternal relevance. Judaism is a religion of action; it has always taught that through performance of the commandments one declares the belief of the heart. To dispense with the legal body of the Torah and reduce it to a book of morals would cut it down to less than half it's size. Can this really be the meaning of those words an eternal law for all generations?

cornelboy:
Sorry I don't wanna discuss anything with you.

I believe that the Bible in whatever language it was written, is inspired by the creator of the universe and only the JWs have the accurate interpretation.

Good luck with your new found faith

Your delusion has gone super sonic...

Esther30:
Christianity is a way of life not a theory to argue on. When you experience that like Paul then you will understand the scripture that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom

God did not sanction it.

Christianity has got nothing to do with god.

It is a mythological story about a dying and rising god.


Learn the laws and principles of life and keep them. Not believe in absurdity

ICEKING95:
You believe in the old testament but dont believe in Prophet Isaiah's prophecy, unto us a child is born and unto us a son is given....

The son has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying . In fact he was 6 years old. Isaiah was talking about future king Hezekiah.

A child is born means past continuous tense.

Not future tense...

Got it??

He was a murder fucqing snitch...

According to the Christian Bible, personal salvation (heaven) can only be achieved through faith in Jesus. From a Jewish theological perspective, this claim is deeply problematic because there is no concept in Judaism that faith in the Messiah ben David leads to personal salvation. There is not a single verse in the Torah or the prophets that states or implies that belief in the Messiah ben David is required for or related to personal salvation. Missionaries should be asked to explain the total absence of this fundamental Christian concept in the Torah. Since the Torah and the prophets frequently repeat every major theological concept for clarity and emphasis, it is impossible to believe that God would not have revealed this “truth” to the Jewish People. Instead, the Torah states that “life” (one’s share in the World to Come) requires Jews to love God, fear God, and keep His commandments:

The Torah says, “See, I [God] have set before you today life and good, death and evil, in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments…I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live.” (Deut.30: 15-19)

God asks Jews to love Him and keep His commandments thereby “choosing (eternal) life.” There is no concept in the Torah that faith in the Messiah ben David brings personal salvation.

The Torah says, “Now, O Israel, what does the Lord, your God, ask of you? Only to fear the Lord, your God, to go in all His ways and to love Him, and to serve the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, to observe the commandments of Hashem and His decrees…” (Deut. 10:12). This concept is also expressed in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.

Fearing God means respecting boundaries and fearing the consequences of our behavior. God may be compared to a father who must be both loved and feared in order for his children to reach their full potential. Love alone produces spoiled children who lack discipline and boundaries; fear alone produces children who lack compassion and the ability to love. God requires both love and fear for human potential to be realized.

The Torah makes clear that Jewish salvation is through loving and fearing God and keeping the commandments of God’s Torah. Significantly, no other method of achieving salvation is mentioned in the Jewish Bible.

No be me talk am oh

The meaning of mitzvot

Judaism is a system of mitzvot - actions we are to perform or to avoid day in and day out. These mitzvot, based on the Torah and the interpretations of the Sages, reflect Judaism's understanding of what it means to live a Godly life.

Although it is possible to discuss the mitzvot individually and the reasons for observing them - and the Sages themselves found reasons for the vast majority of them, as did Maimonides and other Jewish philosophers - it is also possible to look for a general principle or purpose that governs the entire system. If that principle is valid, then perhaps it is worth observing the mitzvot regardless of one's point of view.

Rabbi Hertzel Fishman often quoted the rabbinic statement "The mitzvot were given only in order to purify human beings as a justification for observing them today. Thus the entire purpose of observing any of them is in order to improve ourselves, to make us better people - more caring, more loving, more concerned. The mitzvot are not magic, they do not help God nor do they earn us rewards, but they are valuable for the way in which they improve our character and thereby benefit the society in which we live.

Rabbinic literature also reflects this desire to find an underlying principle behind the way of mitzvot. Rabbi Simlai, a 3rd century Amora, taught that David reduced the 613 mitzvot to 11, Isaiah to six, Micah to three (do justly, love mercy and walk humbly before Your God, Isaiah again to two (keep justice and do righteousnes and finally Amos to one, "Seek Me and live." Simlai was not saying that we did not need to observe the 613 mitzvot, something that Pauline Christianity had asserted, but rather that all the mitzvot were to be seen as an attempt to bring justice and righteousness into the world. They are our way of truly seeking God. The 613 mitzvot are details of a larger philosophy, a greater belief, intended to improve the character of each person.

That which distinguishes
Judaism as a religious way of life is the emphasis on deeds rather than on abstract belief. This does not denigrate the importance of belief, indeed a belief in God as One and as concerned with morality is the basis of Judaism, but these beliefs must be translated into specific deeds. Moreover, actions are the way in which character is molded.
Another attempt to find the basic principle underlying the Torah, the principle behind all the mitzvot, was made earlier by the great Rabbi Akiba. He said that "Love your neighbor as yourself" (Leviticus 19:18) was the basic principle. In this teaching, Akiba followed his predecessor, Hillel the Elder, who told a non-Jew who was willing to convert if Hillel could teach him all the Torah while standing on one foot, "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is all the Torah. The rest is commentary." This was a negative Aramaic formulation of the verse "Love your neighbor as yourself." By this Akiba and Hillel meant that all the mitzvot had but one purpose: to produce a person who would love his neighbor.

The real test of one's religiosity then, is not so much in the scrupulous observance of each detail, or in the numerical adding up of how many mitzvot one has observed, but in the way in which this observance has changed the individual. Are we "purified" by our observance, more loving of our fellow? If so, the performance of the mitzvot has achieved its purpose. If not, it has been in vain.

Idolatrous faiths confuse God with human beings: either that God becomes human, or that humans become God. In biblical history, one sees this confusion with Pharaoh, and with Haman, as well as with Antiochus, the Syrian King against whom the Maccabees rebelled. Contrary to pagan thought, throughout the Bible we are taught not to confuse God and Man. For example, in Hosea 11:9, God explicitly tells us, ‘…for I am God and not a man.’ All of the great Jewish figures of the Hebrew Bible — the Patriarchs and Matriarchs, Moses, King David and others — are shown as fully human, not divine.

Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures, there is a sharp contrast made between God on one hand, and human beings on the other. First of all, there is always a reprimand against any human being who claims to be God, or Divine, as we read in Ezekiel 28:2:

Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Eternal God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God. [Ezekiel 28:2]

Then there is the verse from Hosea in which God specifically tells us that Gd is not a human being:

I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God and not a man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city. [Hosea 11:9]

In Numbers 23:19, God specifically tells us that if God were a human being, then He would be a liar, as all human beings do lie on occasion. Furthermore, this verse tells us that if God were a human being, He would be in need of repentance because all human beings sin at some point in their lives. Finally, this verse also tells us that if God were a human being, then He would make promises, but not keep them:

Gd is not a man that he should lie; neither the Son of Man that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? [Numbers 23:19]

God is the same, God does not lie, and God is God and Human Beings are Human Beings, and God does not become a Human Being, and Human Beings do not become God.

Perhaps this idea of confusing God and man also explains Christian belief in the Virgin Birth — the joining of God and the human woman Mary, who supposedly became pregnant without the sex act in some mysterious way not related to reality as we know it. Numerous gods and heroes in the ancient world were the product of a human mother and a god for a father., Heracles’ mother was the human woman Alcmene and his father was Zeus. Dionysus’ human mother was Semele and his father was Zeus. Perseus’ human mother was Danae and his father was Zeus. As a matter of fact, Zeus made Danae pregnant without the sex act, and therefore her pregnancy was a form of immaculate conception, and her son’s birth was like a virgin birth, in that it was not the result of the sexual act.

This confusion, the mixing of man with gods, was common in the ancient pagan world.

Jesus is a hoax .

We can tell he is a hoax from the gospels alone.

1. Anybody claiming a virgin birth is a liar.

2. Stars don't hover

3. Bethlehem was never called the City of David

4. There never was a tax that required people to travel to the birthplace of one particular ancestor from 1000 years previous.

5. There never was a mass murder of children in Bethlehem committed by Herod.

6. Nazareth wasn't founded until 330AD

7. The dead never came out of their graves

8. People can't fly

The battle is within ...

The real jihad is within.

The letter killeth...

Christianity is a scam, there is nothing divine about it. It was created by men who wanted power, money and control. There is no where in the Hebrew scriptures where it was written that God will send his son to die for sins. NO WHERE.God already provided a solution to the the problem of sin. God only gave humanity laws to keep and follow in other to live in peace and prosper. At the end of our lives our body returns to the earth where it was taken and our breath back to God who gave it.

All the gods crowned Marduk their king when he fought and defeated Tiamat.
With her carcass he created the heavens and the earth and give each god their station and domain..

What I still don't get is how inanna(Lucifer) became enemies with Marduk.

And while in the Christian religion she (inanna) bore a son (Jesus) for him under a different name (Mary).

Oyinbo and their bull shiit as usual..

FYI: Christianity started as the worship of serapis.the transformation from Serapis to jesus happened during the church councils in Turkey from 325 CE to 560CE.
But the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about Marduk.


For more information see Bart Erhmans latest blog post

The bible never said there is only one god. In fact it did mention quite a few. Where they came from, no one knows. They are the Anunaki's of old.
The Jews, more from propaganda than anything else, has given the world the impression that their god is the only one. They worship the creator of all or the king of the gods. This creator is also worshipped all over the world under different names..




Sorry for my rants, God is just the universal consciousnesses, reverenced all round the world under different names and titles.like Eledumare, chukwu, osanobua, Abassi....etc
All other thing is just basically BS

Dtruthspeaker:
Is there any one compelling you to believe?

That aside, by the Law of Power and Rule only One can be the greatest else there must be a war to determine who rules.

What if it was done by trick rather than a war?

TI1919:
Who get Nokia charger?

Small pin or big pin?

God is not a man or a human being.
God is the creator of heaven and earth

God is not part of his creation.

God does not look like anything he created.

Any reference to physical thing is merely a metaphor .

Lastly God has no physical form

Worshipping a man as God is tantamount to idolatry..

It is forbidden.

Christianity is rebranded paganism..

Flee from it...

JOSHUAsalami:
1.There is no other name given by wich we must be saved except by the name of jesus ONLY

2. It was his divine power that gave us all things for life ,and godliness ,we can by ourselves do nothing unless we abide with him .

Saved from what?

delkuf:
This is not success. This is eternity. Where your soul will end up. Your success end here on earth but if after you die which will definitely happen, where are going to spend eternity .

Why was I before I was born ?

Kobojunkie:
Salvation has never been about success. In fact, you essentially give up any hopes of succeeding according to the world's standard when you choose Salvation.

The simplest form of the message that is Jesus Christ is "accept Jesus Christ or perish in the grave!"

Says who?

Joshthefirst:
His father in heaven

Ok..


Are they two or 1 person

I have checked and asked.

I don't seem to understand the reason why people seek for salvation outside of themselves .

Whatever we need to succeed is already within us,

Incredible Hulk is calling you to come join the avengers....

OkCornel:
Tell that to the Jewish historians and scholars below.

Perhaps you know their history better than them.

What ever the Jews know about Jesus ,they got from Christians..

There are no independent attestation on Jesus.


So no long story.

OkCornel:
Can't you see how hopelessly unlettered you are?

I specifically asked for evidences of Jewish scholars and historians denying the existence of Jesus Christ. You brought up a video that has no correlation whatsoever to the existence or otherwise of Jesus Christ. Definitely, a consistent display of serious deficiency in critical reasoning on your part.

When you are ready to provide evidence(s) of all Jewish scholars and historians UNANwIMOUSLY DENYING THE EXISTENCE of Jesus Christ, don't bother me.

How can somebody deny the existence of what does not exist?

elated177:
Which "God" are you talking about? Different souls are ruled by various spirits.

You can only decipher the kind of spirit that rules the soul of a particular individual by the deeds of such an individual. By their fruit you will recognize them, you see.

I mean the creator of heaven and earth., and everything that is in them. Whatever name you wish to call him is up to you...I am Igbo, and collectively we call him Chukwu
There is ONLY him. He is indivisible, and there is nothing he created that is like him.... distinct...

elated177:
You and who are all soul tied? "It depends on who gets home first"? What does that mean?

So, which one do you believe or accept?

Sonmvayina, we have some unfinished business. Remember that thread?

Yes..


All men need a woman to be complete , that is why they are commanded to get marry.