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MaxInDHouse:
Is this how you want to convert people into the reincarnation concept?
You don't know what to say you just jumped into a discussion with nothing to offer than insults.
You want to prove you're intelligent yet you forgot that the so called book you've always been referring to says there are spirit persons with names.
At last after you've lost it you now want to start playing the insult game.
Well i'm not interested in exchanging insults with you Mr reincarnation, tell everyone on this forum who are Michael and Gabriel according to the Hebrew scriptures!



This is your comment that dragged you into the quagmire, now i said Michael and Gabriel are spirit persons with names so deal with it and stop the shameless insult game!

Let me help you. What you call spirits are just personification of natural laws and principles. Nothing more. Example includes death, love, wisdom, air, darkness. ..etc.

In babylonian mythology where the Bible writers got most of the story from. Michael would be Marduk. That slew the dragon tiamat. Which is just a story to tell how marduk brought order to chaos. Enki is the God of wisdom, (you can say spirit of wisdom) Enlil is the God of the air ..etc.
Gabriel would be the equivalent of Mercury in Roman mythology. He is the messenger of the gods.

Why don't you study wide...it will cure your ignorance..

MaxInDHouse:
You just jumped into what i said before realizing how stupidly you goofed!
So next time look before you leap, Michael and Gabriel are spirit persons with names

Your mumu don mature...

Bishopkingsley:
I asked you a few questions last time and you ran away

Question one
Why then did God permit them to carve an image of a bronze serpent and put it on a tree and ask them to look at it when snakes bite them

It is not the creator...that was Ninghiszida..that was a false God. Not the creator. I don't know how to stress this enough..

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ningishzida


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ningishzida#:~:text=Ningishzida%20(Sumerian%3A%20%F0%92%80%AD%F0%92%8A%A9%F0%92%8C%86%F0%92%84%91%F0%92%8D%A3%F0%92%81%95%2Cnin,of%20vegetation%20and%20the%20underworld.

MaxInDHouse:
Are they not spirit persons with names?
Àbí na your Papa give them names?

Lol..I know for you oh..

But you must sha...this your jw Cult has really taken hold of you.

You are just incapable of independent thought..

And you call your self an adult..


Shame.

Bishopkingsley:
I have given you an example when God command the Israelites to look at bronze serpent and anyone who looked will be safe from the serpent bite

That is the same way any one who looks at Jesus will be saved

When did he say we can do that ? Or are you now God's adviser ?


◄ Deuteronomy 4:15-16 ►

15 Take therefore good heed to yourselves; for you saw no kind of form on the day that Yahweh spoke to you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire.
16 Lest you corrupt yourselves,and make yourself an engraved image in the form of ANY figure, the likeness of MALE (j.e.s.u.s.) or female, (MARY) SO WHY IS THERE AN IMAGE OF J.C.? and why are you guys bowing down to it? Why are you worshiping an idol like j.c. when YAHWEH TELLS YOU NOT TO DO IT?

MaxInDHouse:
Michael and Gabriel are spirit persons with names, so say something else Ọ̀DẸ̀!

Your mumu don mature.....

Lol..Michael and Gabriel indeed.

Bishopkingsley:
I hope you now believe in the Messiah which is Jesus

You want God to punish me for committing idolatry?

MaxInDHouse:
Call it anything you like it's a million times reasonable than your reincarnation nonsense!

Lol...when you grow up and have sense..you will understand it....

Time is the only judge..

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not chatting with you on personality but if you want to take it up face me directly and stop popping out of nowhere to ask stupid questions!

It is you who says spirits have names....you are just a dummy..

MaxInDHouse:
They are intelligent beings (persons) with names!

Do you have a picture of any so I can know....I don't just believe, I need to see so I can be sure...
You can also give me his contact or phone number or Facebook profile so I can interact with them.

Thanks..

MaxInDHouse:
Prophecies about the Messiah are not written like that, if you don't want to know fine, but keep your madness to yourself Jesus is the wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father and Prince of Peace!
Just present a group of people who were counseled by Hezekiah so that Hezekiah could be properly refered to as Wonderful Counselor!

Lol...brainwashed cultist.....

This your Cult has really done a good number on you.

MaxInDHouse:
Hezekiah is the wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting father and Prince of Peace, shey?
Clap for yourself!

Stop this your stupidity.. look at what Isaiah wrote, not what the lying romans translated.

https://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/15940/jewish/Chapter-9.htm


Start from beginning to end. To understand the message Isaiah was passing..

How many times will I go over this for you?

Candidlady:
hmmm this is new! How did you come bout this please?

Blacks, whites, Chinese, Japanese....the evidence is all around you..

So what are you looking for?

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible at least mentioned names like Michael and Gabriel, if you're not stupid are they not spirits? Daniel 9:21; 12:1

What do you think spirit are? Men or women ?

Adam means man and Eve means woman...there were more than one set of human beings created...

MaxInDHouse:
Spirits are persons that's why they have names!

How did you know names of spirits ?

This guy...no forget your medicine oh..

Iyaebe:
What is the real name?

We igbos call it chukwu...I hear the yorubas calls it Eledumare...

MaxInDHouse:
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace!

Well there can never be any Wonderful Counselor when you can't present those that were counseled by him!

Lol...it is king Hezekiah. He did that when he was on the thrown as king of Judah...it is not talking about 700 or 1000 or 1000009 years into the future..

MaxInDHouse:
Messiah will be killed and Jerusalem will be destroyed and from then on war will ever continue to ravage Jerusalem! Daniel 9:26

Jesus was killed, Jerusalem was destroyed in the year 66 ce, ever since then Jerusalem has continued to experience wars until now!

He will be counted worthy to die among transgressors, and his sacrificial death will be for the redemption of many souls!Isaiah 53:12
Jesus was executed along with criminals! Matthew 27:38
And he gave his life as a propitiatory sacrifice for the sin of the world! John 3:16

Is there anything like resurrection and second coming ? Or absolution for sins??

In your desperate attempt to make a point, all you could do was clutch on straws. Hahahahahha.

Max for real, Jesus is serapis, he is a Roman creation.
How can a woman become pregnant without a male input? Common, I suppose you went to school. Shouldn't that be a red flag for you?

That 200000000 + people believe in it those not make it true. That I decided to follow God's original commandments those not mean I am alone or is a lie...read Daniel 9 that you quoted. Start from the first verse and educate yourself.

It was about obeying God's laws...

Myer:
Well it was supposedly a mystery so that the devil would not be able to prevent it.

But the closest reference in the OT would be Isaiah 53 emphasis on verse 7.

Your question is very valid though as this is why till date most Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah.

Lol..the devil (if he exist ) would be God's son/ daughter and servant
He works for God. He does only what God tell him or her to do. No more no less. God can't say A and the devil will change it to B. That is impossible. That aside, Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant. He was suffering because of what was done to him. And 8 times prior to chapter 53 Isaiah already told us who the servant it. So this is not a point. Read Isaiah 41:1-9 for clue...or 45 :1-10...

Nobody dies in 53, if you continue reading it says "he shall see his offspring(children) and he shall prolong his days and the will of the lord shall prosper in his hands....nobody died .

Dtruthspeaker:
You begged me last year and I told you NEVER!

My position has not changed!

You are just a woman in a man's body..

MaxInDHouse:
I have quoted it several times but you never listened!

I have decided to use NWT
See the underlined. A time frame was given for the sign. It has got nothing to do with Jesus..

Waiting for another quote

MaxInDHouse:
I have quoted it several times but you never listened!

How did I miss it..?

You posted Isaiah 9:6, we read it together it says

"A son has been born it us....meaning the child was alive when Isaiah was prophesied. A careful read of the next verse shows just that.

Again you quoted Isaiah 7:14 my answer was that the sign or oracle was for king ahaz who was scared of his kingdom being over run. If you continue reading you will discover a time frame was given for the sign..

So I pointed out to you that what you are saying is not what is there...and you know it. But MaxInDHouse must be MaxInDHouse...

Dtruthspeaker:
I had this argument 4 or 5 times and IN ALL OCCASIONS YOU COULD NOT ANSWER and then you started insulting me.

SO, I WILL NEVER ENTER INTO IT AGAIN!

Lol..post your answer for those who might have missed it..please. I am begging you..

Myer:
We have a lot of rubbing of minds to do.
You just may be right.

I love you already..

MaxInDHouse:
And they will reincarnate later, right?

Maybe..but do you know the odds?

Why not educate yourself and know and become like God. In stead of the continuous cycle of life and death.

Myer:
Well. The devil is in various religions in different names.
If God is behind good. The devil is behind evil meaning Esu is the devil in yoruba.
Hades is the devil in Greek mythology, etc.

Lol..so funny.
God is responsible for both good and evil. Only his will is done. He is in perfect control of all his creation. To think otherwise is an insult.
Isaiah 45:7

Dtruthspeaker:
You surely had his time. For me, immediately he said Christ Jesus was a fabrication of the Romans and man is God, he was kookoo, to me.

Is there anywhere from Genesis to Malachi where it was written that the creator will send his son to come and die for sin of mankind? If you have it point it to me. I will wait. The jews are saying it did not originate from them and have nothing to do with them, the Messiah their God promised them is a human king that is coming to rule in an era of peace.

So where did the authors of the So called new testament get the idea of a dying son of god?

Dont beat about the bush, just answer me and let's see whether dummy is?

MaxInDHouse:
So what will happen if we refuse to listen to you?

Mother nature will get rid of you...so you are your like will perish in a flood or fire and brimstone like the folks in Sodom and Gomorrah..

Dtruthspeaker:
You surely had his time. For me, immediately he said Christ Jesus was a fabrication of the Romans and man is God, he was kookoo, to me.

When the time comes....

MaxInDHouse:
So if man has been judged and there is no solution, what is the purpose of your running up and down on Nairaland?
You're going to die and there's nothing afterwards just like everyone else, so what are you doing here everyday?

To educate folks like you who are deep into idolatry. The universe detest us doing that. We were created in the creators image and likeness.. you stooping so low to worship a figure that was created by the romans is taking us below monkeys and apes...

The purpose is to move humanity forward. You guys are taking us backwards..

Myer:
Now while I agree with some of points about the stories helping to educate man about the relation with God, I must disagree that not all religions refer to God as the universe.
In fact a Christian would find it insulting if you refer to God as the universe.

To you, God might be the universe.
But if I may ask, if God is the universe what does that make the devil?

The devil is a Christian invention. It does not exist in ibo traditional religion or yoruba or Judaism.

Demons, angels are natural laws and principles..
The yorubas calls them orishas...