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What happened to the gifts they brought...? I heard to was sold to buy food. As the family was going through hard times....nobody was buying furniture, and joseph had to resort to selling pure water to support

The authors choose the name Mary...if they had used Bridget..you would have said Bridget. She is just a character in a story...

The inventors of the story did not include that in their narrative...not important to them..

So anybody can make up anything..

Happy holiday...nairalanders..

budaatum:
I think you don't think at all!

Is Adam and Eve not mythology? Is Abraham not mythology? Are not all the tales about God that you read in the Torah not mythology?


No one has ever said satan was God or that either exists outside mythology, least I haven't to my knowledge, so I really do not get your point. The Torah itself is a collection of stories full of myths from all over the place, so adding to it is not new at all. The idea of satan appears by the the third chapter of Genesis in the Torah and is believed to have been prefixed to the Jewish Historical myth that follows just as the New Testament is a suffix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve?wprov=sfla1

I said the jews dont have the idea of god mating with human as part of their belief ...it is a roman / greek stuff. Christianity is a roman creation, Not an offshort of judaism..they added it at the end of tbe Tanakh is purely propaganda..

budaatum:
Seems your sincerity was very short lived. Glad to see you know what a dummy must sound like though. It makes me confident you will eventually recognise one.


Son of the God Zeus, or Jupiter, according to some. What about him? Do you think he is excluded from my, "Did research. Found it's common for Gods to have virgin or otherwise unusual births"? Or did you just not understand what you read?

I tbought i was having a conversation with a smart guy..i guess i tbought wrong..


Thats put both in the realm of mythology...which was prevalent in the greek/ roman religious beliefs. The jews dont have it. Why put it at the end of the jewish one..

The jews worship or reverence just one God. That is responsible for both good and evil..and i full control of everything he created. There is no devil running around and doing whatever he likes .

budaatum:
I always appreciate sincerity. And more so your use of the word "understand". Don't like the "suppose" however, because what it accomplishes depends on the individual. Like beauty, according to the understanding of the beholding mind.

Ma is a nurse. A maternity nurse with thousands of babies. When I was younger and the poor come to baby, I boil the water and listen to their crying and ma making fun of them that they should have thought about it before spreading their legs for the man.
Lesson. Spread legs man, baby in oven!

Now, years later I find this book talking about a virgin giving birth. You can imagine how much fun can be had by an atheist with just that, but buda is curious. Did research. Found it's common for Gods to have virgin or otherwise unusual births. So what could it mean. So I studied Mary, the Virgin Mother of God. Found out she was the learned one, an educated daughter of a priest/scholar of the day who could read and was not defiled by the williness of men hence a Virgin, unlike Eve who was corrupted by Adam's lies! I mean, you do know the Jewish prayer, that goes "I would rather be a Gentile than a woman"? Keep them stupid, keep them ignorant marry loads of them and keep them servile, seemed to be the religious motto of the day.

Well, Mary was a virgin from all that, as in, that nonsense had not defiled her mind. No wonder she was able to teach Jesus to become the Son of God, I figured.

Now, Imagine your wife or daughter or your mother understood what I just wrote above. Imagine the sort of children your mother might rear, how much smarter you might have become, and your children and grandchildren after their mother educates them like Mary educated her Son. Can you see a purpose?



Aside. I was on the bus typing the above and got carried away and missed my stop and two more after. Thankfully the stop I awoke was opposite the off licence. So I went in and bought the below to celebrate your sincerity. May it last.

Hahaha hah...you are just a dummy...sorry to say..

What about Perseus...of the "clash of the titans " story?

He is also a son of God you know...

budaatum:
You can not imagine how much respect you have from me for the above and fact that you have to sleep over it. That is because by design I am not writing for your eyes that see but comprehendeth not, but for your mind that takes what your eyes see and works when you sleep to interprete it to you and give you meaning.

You are at fault. Having had the opportunity to engage buda for years and understand buda (note, not believe!), you have only just begun reading buda, but you have not yet learnt to ask questions, which is the next level in your education.


Can you possibly consider that you say the above because you lack understanding? After all, millions have been led to God by that which has led not you. Or is it your opinion that they all lie?

Do note that by adding it, the Romans have made the New Testament a part of God's Words, though like all texts, one must first tune to the God Channels to comprehend.


buda is not like you son, and should not assume nor generalise that everyone has the experiences thst you have. After being an atheist from birth, and not having buda's head filled with bull shit, buda only adopted religion in January last year, and buda is not finding it hard to learn and understand at all and not believe, which is where you err.

You judge by believability, perhaps. Like if you are told a virgin gave birth to a child you must decide to believe it or not, and since you rightly can not believe it you call it all bull shit. That is what many do. That which they do not understand they call names.

buda has no such problem of being obliged to believe because it is obvious that a woman can not give birth without receiving sperm. This makes buda seek understanding of what could possibly be meant by [i]The Virgin Mary gave birth in a manger, which I am of the opinion you do not do but discard instead.[/i]

Your eyes will surely open. Seek, and be patient on the Lord Almighty.

How do you understand the virgin birth..its a sincere question.

Hiw does it make sense and what is it surppose to accomplish..

GofuckYourself:
Okay I shall begin shortly

I have people scheduled though out today up till midnight

Send me an email some minutes to your session with your mobile and I will contact you

I am here for you

Please don't feel judged at all

Feel free to discuss anything that worries you
Your thoughts your desires

Ask your questions I am here for you and observe the strictest confidentially


PS booking for tomorrow's sessywill start in the evening because I have some physical sessions during the day but will have online sessions tomorrow

Can i send my digit...i need to talk to you

GofuckYourself:
Like i said

You will come to understand

Have a wonderful holiday

He sure will...

budaatum:
So, all along, son, your argument is one myth is superior to another?

Are Abraham, Moses and Adam and Eve less mythology than Jesus?

Well, I like the Word of God. In it we read that, If all the trees on earth were pens, and the ocean were ink, replenished by seven more oceans, the writing of Allah's Words (His wonderful signs and creations) would not be exhausted; surely Allah is Mighty Wise.

Therefore, do not live by bread alone or you will become malnourished!

This your sandwich approach is not helping matters, you will start with something good. Add something bad in the middle then conclude with another good idea...thats why i dont follow your line of thought...sometimes i have to sleep over it before i remove the shaft from the grain..

The jesus myth is a big distraction. It DOES not lead anybody to God but rather away from God. Everything the christain claim about their God is an abomination to the creator. The new testament is not a continuation of the old. That the romans added it at the end of the jewish one does not mean it is inspired. It is the deception. I have realised that and i am not falling for it again...

I know how hard it is to unlearn the bull shit..it was for me..

enilove:
I didn't know Jacobu is the same person as Israeli . I thought Jacobu was a Nigerian and Israel a Pakistani.

Thank you for the correction .

Am sure you will soon bcom the apostle of Jesus , by His grace , in Jesus' name.

I dont worship idols...i only worship my creator and he does not require a mediator or intermediary...

Do not have any other god before me...(do you think he will punish me for obeying him?)

budaatum:
You will only not get the understanding you'll get if you stop halfway.

The torah is the way , the truth and life....it is the complete parkage..

This whole christianity ideology is so confusing and undefendable..i think i will just stick with the torah..

It makes better sense..

enilove:
You are wrong , it is not Israel but Jacobu.

Ode....jacob was renamed israel..

So why do you keep quoting it to support your jesus sacrifice bull shit?

enilove:
OP , pls read this prophecy written concerning Jesus' death about 900 years b4 he came :

Isaiah 53:7-12 KJV
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. [8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. [9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. [10] Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he [b]shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall [/b]prosper in his hand. [11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by[i] his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall[/i] bear their iniquities. [12] Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

I have explained this to you before, nobody dies for anybody. It is tslking about a righteous servant. His days was prolonged, he had children..it cant be jesus remotely or otherwise..

The righteous servant is israel..

The Almighty Created Evil, He is Over All. There is no competing power.
Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am YHWH, that doeth all these things."
New Testament believers have an issue with this because it goes against the Zoroastrianism concepts taught in their New Testament.

The Almighty Created Evil, He is Over All. There is no competing power.
Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am YHWH, that doeth all these things."
New Testament believers have an issue with this because it goes against the Zoroastrianism concepts taught in their New Testament.

Even okocha self....

Adakintroy:
Ok agreed. Don't follow the messaih..let everything be follow love. It's that ok with you.

Yea...love, that is the language of angels..

paulemmy19:
Zlatan

Yea...i think he has to be on top there...

I think i will go with Sergio Ramos..the real madrid defender who always makes the team of the competition.

I have a new angel to the anti christ bruhaha.....i think the anti christ is santa clause...He is the one that has replaced jesus in christmas...

Adakintroy:
Ask questions if you ask questions make statement if you are make my statements.

Christ came to show you a path to God. Love one another dutifully. Have you done that honestly and see if it does not lead to God?.

God only gave us laws to obey to make our human life more enjoyable...he never asked anybody to follow the messiah, the messiah was coming to save the people of israel from their enemies. Not to replace God or be worship.

God is already in us..Life is a journey of self discovery..

Kobojunkie:
I fail to see what any of the above truly has to fo with what Jesus Christ taught His followers.

Who knows what jesus taught his disciples?...if he actually existed. He did not write anything down, there is nothing from those who might have seen him,

You have to wait 300+ years after the time he was said to have lived to read up anything about him, from unknown authors, who never stated how they came about the story..

There is no such being as satan...he is a christian creation and the muslims took it from there..whatever happens, happens because it is the will of God..whether good or bad..God created evil as a learning tool...

Nah bad belle pastor talk say nah sin, and all of them get their regular room they maintain in choice hotels...God no talk say nah sin any where...he only gave us the list of people we should never approach for sex...read leviticus 18..

The funny thing about those who claim to believe in God is that they have zero knowledge of God. All they do here is to try and make sense of context of written words. They fail to realize that its all allegory and metaphorical.

The stories are all about the journey...from birth to death, that is the human experience. The journey from Egypt to the promise land..

The destination is given, not the journey. So God gave us his Torah to guide our choices...

I watched the movie "lucy" yestersay again. I could not help but notice that the knowledge of the universe was given to a black man (morgan freeman) in the midst of other intellectuals.

Why the hell do we patronize the white man and his made up religious bull shit?

God is conciouseness. Not a jewish magician up in the sky or a genie that grants wishes. The universe is conciouse. We are conciouse beings in a physical body made from dust of the earth..at death, our conciouseness goes back to the universe and becomes one with it. Our body goes back to the earth and becones one with it...

The only thing the universe demands from us is to a human being. To be one with ourselves and with nature.

The universe is a unit..
There are no personal gods, just those who have gone before us, who are always ready to teach us and lead us to achieve our aims.
We are all part of the whole..the only way to have a relationship with God is to obey his commandments..

We are all Gods having a human experience..so if you believe there is God, you are right, if you dont..you are also right.

Adakintroy:
Am driving at it ends in disaster according to the goat farmers whose books have survived many civilizations.

Was it Gods plan or some mumbo jumbo? If it is Gods plan can anybody really over ride it? What is the wisdom behind letting people suffer, if you have sent your son to suffer in their place? Why make them go through that kind of suffering.

You see, christianity has no ground zero, all these bull shit where added as time went on, to still put people in fear and easy to control .
God NEVER Planed any of these stuff...