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TimeTraveler369:
Integrating the Jesus hypothesis into the Simulation Concept and the Theory of Everything is a huge challenge, but the answers are right before our eyes.

It is a fact that Jesus Christ or Iesus Kristos or Issa Ibn Mariam or Yahushua Ha Masiach did exist but the name could have been different from the European Portrait that Christians now worship or adore.

I understand the works of Corpenicus and how St. James and the European Priesthood in adulterating the Gnostic Christianity (Shamanic Christian Faith).

So the Jesus I am talking about is the Yeshua of the Gnostic Gospel, the real Gnostic Christianity and not the Orthodox version of Christianity that knows little or nothing about the root words in the Gnostic Christianity.

It is also a fact that the real Jesus was a hybrid being. He was fathered by an Alien (Spirit Being) and incubated by a Human Mother (Virgin Mary) - so Jesus was half-human/half Extraterrestrial Alien and had to be physically on Earth to complete his mission.

The Physical Body (Avatar) was Jesus, but the Spirit was from a parallel universe, a higher vibration consciousness system. Which is why they say he was fathered by the Holy Spirit, not human spirit.

That Spirit could be Arch Angel Michael, which is also an Avatar by the way, or Marduk which is Extraterrestrial multidimensional entity from another planet system of higher consciousness or he could be just any higher being like Arch Angel Metatron etc. But physical Avatar was who we come to know as Jesus.

Does it make sense?

Some of it.. Marduk is the Lord of the old testament..the creator of the Universe as contained in the enuma Elish... He is the begetter of the gods, the lugal dimmer Ankia which literally translate to the divine king Of heaven and earth..

I will be scared of the mark of the beast when China, Russia, usa and North Korea becomes friends...

MistadeRegal:
Since the time man sinned against GOD in disobeying GOD by eating the fruit of the forbidden tree of knowledge of good and evil, sin entered into the fountain of man because all these descendants came from Adam.

Observing closely, when Eve first ate the fruit, her eyes were not yet opened, but as soon as Adam ate it, the eyes of both of them were opened, cleared, understanding came to them and they knew they were naked instantly. Why? Because Eve was made out of Adam. Immediately the fountain was corrupted, they both became corrupt.

And before that, GOD had spoken upon that tree that if they should eat the tree, they will surely die. But they have never experienced nor witnessed death or dying before, so they just kept to it till Eve was beguiled.

Now, since man disobeyed GOD and sin came upon man, the word that GOD had spoken upon the tree that they will die, instantly came up activated. Preparing to kill them but not instantly. So, sin got into man and death followed. (Though from the beginning, GOD made man perfect)

Now, sin and the consequence of disobeying GOD is upon man. And to remove this sin and its consequence, blood was required as blood is life.
In those days, GOD commanded them to use the blood of rams, goats, bulls etc. But this does not last as it is required to carry a continuous process of sacrificing.

These goes on for a period of time. They sacrificed several animals and it was a continuous process. It came to a time that GOD told them He is not interested in their sacrifices. But that He will send his BRANCH who will come and they will be taught of the LORD.

Now, they believed the prophecy and waited for long for the Messiah to come. Indeed, they were expecting the Messiah but when the Messiah came, they never knew.
But since they never repented of their sins still, GOD decided to remove this world and create another one and that when the time comes, He will terminate this current world and make another replace it forever.

To stop these animal sacrificing for atonement, blood is still required. And since all men have been defiled by sins they committed, none of them was pure and holy enough to be used as the ultimate sacrifice. This is why GOD had to send His Word, a personality in GOD Himself like when you say something should be done and that what you said got it done.

Now, the Word came into the world, clothed in flesh but no man knew him because instead of descending as a mighty man, He came as someone not recognizable. They saw Him as a nobody because they couldn't understand who He really was at that time.

Now, before JESUS CHRIST died, He had told His disciples that He will be going to Jerusalem to be delivered to the hands of sinners that they might kill Him and He will rise again on the third day. He went indeed, even the Word of GOD went to Jerusalem where He was taken and eventually killed.

They killed Him thinking they did for envy and hatred but never knew the prophecy has been fulfilled.
They no longer need to offer any animal as sacrifices anymore because the blood of who had been shed, a blood most precious.

Since no man was qualified, neither by holiness...nor any virtue, GOD sent His Word, a personality in GOD. Who was humiliated and later killed.
Now, the Word had done that sacrifice using the body provided for Him as a human instead of rams, bulls, goats etc because GOD will not use any human as sacrifice.

Now, the warning is that since GOD is going to terminate this world, He laid it down that whosoever shall believe on the Word whom He the FATHER has sent will not be added to the things He will not be needing in the new earth but will burn such up with eternal fire.

This is why we have been telling you to believe and accept Him that you might not get added to those things He will not be needing in the new earth. Which is the Kingdom of Heaven.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John:1:1-5,9-12,14
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
John:1:17

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John:3:15-19,33-36

So God deceived them?.. What did God tell them the Messiah was coming to accomplish?

Kobojunkie:
Like I said before, we don't serve the same God.

I reverence the creator of the Universe, (heaven and earth) . Who do you?

TimeTraveler369:
It is not the existence of God that you should be really focused on, but the Super Programmer who designed the Gods and Goddesses as well as the Universes.

@Billynaire.. Is that you?.. I could guess that.. I was following your line of thought until you brought Jesus into the matter.. Who are you patronizing? Who are you pandering to?..

Except you figure out that Jesus is Michael the supposed archangel or that Jesus is Marduk the son of Enki.. Truth be told.. He is neither man nor God. It was Athanasius at the council of nicea who said he was both God and man. He wanted to satisfy all the factions.. Eusebius had to Forge a human history for the deception.. The rest is history..

All I am trying to say is that the gospel stories comes from ancient tales about Marduk..

ThinkBrave:
I just have some simple questions for anyone who things a live outside of Jesus makes any meaning.

The questions are :
Questions 1: Lets assume there is no God as the atheist things. Who are you? What do you live for? Why should you live?
Questions 2[/b]: For anyone who do not believe in Jesus as the saviour. please, I'm not saying you are going to hell or [/b]
your religion is wrong. What will you do when you die and finds out that Jesus is actually the saviour? What will you tel him?
What will be your best defense? What stopped you from getting save now?.

If I ever finds out there is no God I have actually lost nothing, than to find out there is God and I choose not believe in him.

let him that thinketh he stands should take hid less he falls. The first shall be the last.
Let all those who call on the name of the Lord depart iniquity.
Give your life to Jesus today! May God bless you all and help us all.

When did God say we have to believe in the Messiah in other to be saved?

Judaism and Christianity are two different religions. The new testament is not a continuation of the old testament.. The Jewish people wrote their Tanakh for their people.. Not for Romans or Greeks or Africans.. It is the Romans /Greeks who attached their own books at the end of the tanakh.
They pick passages from the old testament out of context and interpolate them into their religion..
The Jews never added verses or chapters, that is a Christian creation and addition..
What the jews believe is different from what the Christian believe.. Judaism is a spirituality while Christianity is a dualism.. Two separate God's for both good and evil.. In Judaism there is only one God responsible for both. The creator of the Universe.. There is just nothing he created that he can't control..

That is what I believe too.. The existence of a Christian devil is laughable and ridiculous to say the least..

I believe and reverence the creator which I am 1000000 % sure is not a man or human being..

letu:
The Karzah Jews whom you worship are not real Hebrews of the Bible/Tanakh, they are the kind of people that can be know as Fake Hebrews.

Lol.. I am not Jewish. I am from delta state in Nigeria.. We have our own belief system or omenani. Only a slave will abandon his heritage for a foreign one... I am a free born...

I only quote the old testament because that is what most people know.. And most of the belief is consistent with the igbo omenala..

Dtruthspeaker:
Because you are not able to ask any reasonable question, therefore, you have become ridiculous and have begun insulting!

Far from it.. You don't even know what God is and is not.. You are just fascinated by the idea.. I really don't know where to start the lecture.. Well add me on WhatsApp 0.8.0.3.3.6.8.3.8.3.6...i can spare some time to educate you.. But why don't you start by watching Enki35 productions video on YouTube.. Start with who is God.. She does a very good comparative analysis of the ancient religions..

Kobojunkie:
Pandemic is a punishment from God? Cheezzuss!
What kind of nonsense is that? Punishment for what? And since when did the world become the state of Israel?
Why would God need to punish a world already condemned by the Old Covenant which He made long ago with Israel?

Are you off your med?.. Or you took overdose.. There is only one God, I have always told you this.. We are part of it and it is part of us... Stop trying to contain it in your small mind...

Smartini:
If Jesus was God, why did he say nothing when the Devil came to tempt him 3 times?

Remember the 3rd test when he said he had all the power and authority over the riches of the world and all he needed was for Jesus to fall down and worship him? If Jesus (GOD) was really the controller of the world at that time, why didn't he question the Devil's claim for ownership, Sir?

Why did thanos eliminate half the population, when it is not him that created it..

Story, story story...

Dtruthspeaker:
1. What is God? (or Who is God? For a thing can not be a god, hence it is not "what" but Who which means a Person or Personality)

Answer- I am a Creation and I created myself. So like every creation I remain in the place where my Creator kept me.

So if you ask me about my Creator, Whom, I Call God, I can not answer you much because I am a Creation, Knowing only the things around me.

Just iPhone can not tell you anything or all about Steve Jobs, but Steve Jobs can tell you all about iPhone.

So also is it for me that my Creator can talk about me, but I am unable to say much about Him.

And just like the iPhone and Camry, I do not know His House address or Country of Origin, even His True Name I can not know.

But what I do know is what He Told Me when He came to see Me. And also what I saw when He came to See me. And the things He told me.

That is what I can talk more My Creator, the Most Mighty, Who I Call God.

I have invariably answered question 2) without realising it, But I am happy to stand on and by answer.

Still interested? any more reasonable questions?

Was it a white Man that came to you? Or you have not taken your medications..

Satan66:
I refuse to read the book of a false god.

Blessed are the destroyers of false hope, for they are the true Messiahs - Cursed are the god-adorers, for they shall be shorn sheep!
From the book of satan, The one true God.

Lol..

The pandemic is a punishment from God.... This is what we must do..

2nd Chronicles 7 : 12-14.

Dtruthspeaker:
Great!

Since the Messenger came First, You Must thereafter Listen to the Message and form your own opinion on the message as you want.

But, it is Settled and Understood that it is not the message of the Messenger (else he would not be a messenger) but that the Message which the Messenger Delivers, is a Communication from God, Himself.

That being Settled, therefore, If God Sends a Messenger, if we honour and Respect God, are we not bound to Listen to the Messenger? (I have asked you many questions, so it is my turn now, so I proceed and you can respond)

Therefore, if God Sends Anyone, I Would Listen to Him because I Love God and I know a lot about Him and I am definitely going to act on the message, which I have heard and I do not see anything Wrong with His Message.

It is even that I have Special Understanding of Who Christ is, that even Makes me now worship Him for He (Christ) is the same Lord God through out what is wrongly called old Testament.

His Father, the Most High Spoke Scantily, Exactly as a King Shall Do at the beginning in Genesis, which a Good Son Must Respond to His Father's Command, as we are told in John 1:1-4. (Except you do not want the testimony of John, but this is My Connection of Genesis 1:3-28)

By John 1, It was Christ Who Created Everything in Line with the Commandment of His Father, The Highest!

And after Creation by the authorities of Mathew 11:27 and John 5:22, the same Person who we call Christ Jesus, is the same who is Lord, God or Lord. Or God, referred to After The Creation of the World and man

It is He, who did all the talking and meetings with man through out the what is wrongly called old testament until He came for His Final Visitation of Man, as though He were a son of man.

And that is why He Authoritatively tells us that No One Can Go Directly to God (Neither do you want to) but you Must all Stop at His Office.

He is the Personal Assistant of God.

And all these are the reasons why!

Now Your questions.

I don't really know where to start this lecture from.. You just shit full everywhere..

Well let me start somewhere..
1. What is God?
2. What is the nature of God?
Maybe the answers to this question will give me a pointer to where to start..

Please don't be offended..

Dtruthspeaker:
Who came first, the messenger or the Commandment?

The messenger... We are born with the commandment in our heart..

"your word I have hidden in my heart that I may not sin against thee"

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I asked on the other thread if God Appoints a Person either from heaven (which you do not know) or from earth (where you are) would you know or would you be there at the time of His Appointment to see it? When Moses was Appointed by God, where you there?

God calls human as prophets to deliver his message to people..if they are of God what they say must be in line with the laws of God.. If it is not, then they are not of God.. If somebody comes and says "God has approved for us to commit adultery"... Would you believe the person came from God?..

You will easily know the person is not speaking the mind of God... As God can't go against his laws or change.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have still not clearly answered the question for I am not asking how you shall choose to respond to a messenger.

I am asking when a person is Appointed by God, would you be there to verify and authenticate the validity of His Appointment?

the ONLY way to verify is their message must be consistent with the laws of God.....if not, there are only trying to be deceptive...

Dtruthspeaker:
You are still evading and refusing to answer the question put to you.

Where and when God Appoints a Person either from heaven or earth would you know or would you be there at the time of His Appointment to see it?

i know you are not as dumb as this your question....so, go back and read my response again. the only way for us to know is in their message..it must be consistent with the laws of God..if not it is not from God...just men being men, trying to deceive as usual..

eplanning:
Dont fool yourself... to relate with whatever you claim to know, you have to believe it.

lol..i am not walking down that road with you..i know ALGEBRA...does it mean i believe in Algebra? the laws or words of God is like a torch, to guide our steps....at the end of the day the purpose is to have a fulfilling, meaningful and purposeful life

eplanning:
And how did you know adultery is wrong?
Some African cultures eat human beings... I believe that too is good.
They bury dead kings with their servants and wives.... its an amazing culture right?

somebody bleeped my girl friend when i was in uniben and she was in ambrose ali university, i know how i felt when i heard...imagine that happening to a wife that was legally married and the bride price paid..it will destroy the man....i dont want that feeling, so i wont do it to somebody else...those are really bad pratices..and a lot of education needs to be done for we to say good bye to those practices..culture is dynamic...

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I asked on the other thread if God Appoints a Person either from heaven (which you do not know) or from earth (where you are) would you know or would you be there at the time of His Appointment to see it? When Moses was Appointed by God, where you there?

God calls human as prophets to deliver his message to people..if they are of God what they say must be in line with the laws of God.. If it is not, then they are not of God.. If somebody comes and says "God has approved for us to commit adultery"... Would you believe the person came from God?..

You will easily know the person is not speaking the mind of God... As God can't go against his laws or change.

Dtruthspeaker:
I would answer all your questions above in this thread but you are avoiding answering my question. Please answer the question

"if God Appointed A Certain Person Either from Heaven (that no man knows) or on Earth, Would you know?

Or shall you be there when God makes His Appointment? Moses whom you accept, where you there at his Appointment? Or did God call you or write you when He Appointed Moses, before the Commandments?

I would know.. Because his message will be consistent with God's laws and commandments.. It won't go against it..
If somebody tells me, that God said I have to sacrifice my son.. I won't believe it, because I know God does not accept human sacrifice.. It is an abomination to him..

Dtruthspeaker:
I agree but if the All-Mighty Has Appointed A Certain Person for that purpose as He Once Appointed the Levites, are you not going to Comply and Obey such Appointment?

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He hasn't.... That is the Bone of contention.. He has not.. Provide the place where he has..

Provide the place where God said his son will die for sins or the Messiah.. I am waiting..

Dtruthspeaker:
That is why I asked you, if God Appointed A Certain Person Either from Heaven that no man knows or on Earth, Would you know?

Or shall you be there when God makes His Appointment?

Lol.. And I said if somebody is from God, his message from God will be in line with God's laws.. God can't go against his laws...

If God says "thou shall not kill".. He is not going to ask you for human sacrifice.. You got it now..?

eplanning:
Leave story. You're an ancestor worshipper, period. And how did you know the laws he gave from the beginning? Leave us who believe the bible alone biko.

Lol... Educate yourself.. It was never about believing.. But knowing.. My people perish for lack of knowledge..

eplanning:
You don't believe the bible in the first place. So stop pretending as though you're interested in pleasing God.

I follow the laws of God that he gave from the beginning.. Not the paganism men has added to it..

Dtruthspeaker:
It is our own duty and obligation to destroy the works of Wickedness and the giving of offences in us, so that we can once more attain and restore to our Father the Creator, His purposes of our Creation.

Which is what the Risen Lord first Taught and we are supposed to take up.

Then by His Sacrifice, we having Cleansed ourselves through His words and Teachings, we would obtain the Sure Mercies and Forgiveness of the Highest, whom we previously offended in Line and in Compliance with the Commandment in Exodus 29:36 and Leviticus 4:1-5:13; 6:24-30) for we know we offend the Lord, God Everyday!

And the Offering of the Lord, is the Most Holy and Pure offering we can ever have to comply with the Commandment of sin offering which we know that unblemished bullock is not Holy.

All God ask is for us to confess and forsake, he will forgive and bless.. Somebody else can't do that for you.. It won't work. It is your soul that is tainted, it is you that will cleanse your soul by your self...

Dtruthspeaker:
Ok, you said it.

Now, tell me knowing the Commandments, should the Lord, God send a Person, like he did to Sodom and Gomorrah, Shall men know?

Knowing the Commandments, should such a Person be honoured and respected? If yes, how much respect and honour would you consider is due to such Person?

Do you reasonably expect that such a Person Would Lie About the Message He Delivers From The Lord?

And should the Person inform you of His Appointed Rule over you, do you think it reasonable to controvert or resist or challenge his appointment?

And is the messager of God, Not God At the Time of Delivering His Message as Moses was to pharoah?

For I am very sure that since you love the Commandments of God, therefore you are aware of these Commandments in Exodus.

"Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

So, Knowing these and many other Commandments of Honour and Respect, do you think that the Lord God, shall be offended if pay much respects to His Messengers/Employees or Appointees?

I could not make heads or tails of your post, but I might say something.
It is important we listen to God's message and messengers, very very important. Those messages must be in line with his laws.. Anybody who comes with a new law is a false prophet. Read deuteronomy 13.. Even if he does signs and wonders and they came to pass, it is God testing his people.. They won't listen to such a person but will kill him, to purge the evil..
Numbers 23 :19 says God is not a man or human being. So if a man is claiming God what do you expect to be his fate,?.. That person must be either psychotic or delusional... Prophet Amos says God always reveal to his prophet what he is going to do before he does them. Amos3 :7.. I have read all the prophet, there is no one that said anything remotely about Jesus.. Point it out if you think there is...

How is the belief in all these crap going to make us better people in God's eyes??

Maximus69:
I hope this doesn't end in insults, abuses and curses!

Why should it..?

DappaD:
Jehovah had already appointed Joshua to take the place of Moses (Numbers 27:18-23)
So who is this ‘Prophet’ at Deuteronomy 18:15-18? It didn't apply to Joshua so who was that place talking about?

Joshua and the ones after him.. Context is key.. Moses was a addressing the people in his front.. Not addressing a future generation... Read it in context..