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GothamCities:
No. It's not.

Really....that's fresh.

Please educate me what it is based on..

Luciii:
Evidence has been provided, write your own journal and peer reviewed paper to the academic community disputing their consensus as wrong and prove said(your) ramblings of an anonymous nobody on the internet against established reputable scholars so we adopt it as fact. No?!😁

Are you saying that no body who actually saw him wrote anything down..

So sad, and the earliest anybody heard the name jesus was actually after the NICea council.
Does it not mean that it was that council that actually invented him?

No matter how passionate you are, jesus is not a historical figure...that is why it is all faith based. Not knowledge....

It is a thing of faith..
If it was true, nobody' will forc you to believe it....

GothamCities:
Abeg, go and sit down.

I'm a Yoruba man and not a kid. I know what it entails. Nobody has to tell me anything. You should go and tell your lies to your kids. When did you ever see me or any Christian doing human sacrifices?

The witches you so much love have blinded your eyes.

Is Christianity not founded on human sacrifice?

GothamCities:
Absolute nonsense!

Did you watch it?

God is the universal divine consciousness fully embodied....not a bearded old Jewish man up in the sky...

He is within us....

Steep:
The "I am a God thoelogy" is a luciferian teaching, taught by pastor Chris and other penticostal and charismatic movements.

What is the luciferian teaching?

Lucifer was one of God's most beautiful and intelligent creation ever made however he sought to be like the most High. Is 14:14.

Lucifer has always wanted to exalt himself, and he is called the father of lies, he rejected the truth because the truth would expose him and render his quest of equating himself with God useless.
Though he is no longer an angel of God but Satan an opposer of God and God's way.

Still spread this ideology of becoming God or equal with God this ideology is what is called the luciferian ideology.
What is God?
God is one who is uncreated, he is eternal and sovereign, meaning he has absolute power and authority and he is worshiped
What is an idol?

An idol is a creation mimicking or equating himself to God. An idol is a lie because and idol is created why God is uncreated.

1 Chronicles 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.

Just like Jesus or is he an exception?

It was there form the beginning until somebody decided that you don't need to know more...or else, their offering bowl will dry up...

It was at the synold of Hippo in morden day Algeria that the canon of the Bible was decided..

GothamCities:
Lol. Yet, we use the words of the Bible to break the words of ifa and the witches that ifa acknowledges.

If ifa is greater than the Bible, please show me the control ifa's words have had over the nations as demonstrated on this thread for the Bible.

Continue deceiving yourself..

The revelation is upon us..

Be prepared for what is coming..

GothamCities:
God's special gift for human sacrifices, appeasement of witches, bowing down to wood and stone, referring demons, etc?

Why are you so ignorant?

Because the people that enslaved your ancestors told you so it must be true...

When will you ever grow up.

And they gave you a religion built on human sacrifice....

You are just the worst kind of human being..

Gabrielshow24:
Of all interpretations yours is so different.
Very abysmal

But the most authentic...

GothamCities:
Thanks very much. You nailed it!

I've not seen anyone so ignorant like sonmvayina, yet he thinks he knows more than everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y2IHhYJzg4?si=EdcbUXb54HK_0kTe


Watch this video, if you don't have mb, drop your number, I will load for you..

You will learn a lot.

Gabrielshow24:
Rapture is real!

Continue deluding yourself...

AntiChristian:
Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford. All good will be for its own benefit, and all evil will be to its own loss. Jesus will answer for his own matters while we all will answer for our own!

I did not say anything about Allah.
Allah is the moon God Nanna/sin..he is the god of darkness...not the creator of the universe.
That the cult of Allah became a dominant force in arabia is nobody's fault.

ichuka:
Dude, without the shading of blood there's no forgiveness of sin.
Hebrew9:22..In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

That is what Paul said...
It is a cult thing. It got nothing to do with God..
It is not God's position.
It was a cult like free masons....

It got nothing whatsoever to do with God.
He abhors human sacrifice...is he not the one who created humans. Why would you kill anyone for him? Does it really make any sense?

Lucifyre:
Ignorant and confident, very dangerous combo typical of close minded folks.  Anyways let me use a fine comb to comb said ignorance and school you. I'll start with Dr Bart Ehrman which you confidently, amusingly and ignorantly claimed to support a position which if you just took a couple of secs to educate urself would have found contradicts the claim you were making, least i forget the hilarious mention of Kenneth Humphreys.  I already cited one of Dr Bart's works up there "Misquoting Jesus" as a source.

In addition his books "Did Jesus Exist" and "Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet Of The New Millennium" further addresses and asserts the historicity of Jesus. Bart had this to say in a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship on the subject matter, Ehrman wrote: "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees." Reputable historian James Dunn also writes: "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed.

Other notable scholars like Maurice Casey of University of Nottingham in his book "Jesus: Evidence and Argument or Mythicist Myths?" addresses the mythicist claim that Jesus didn't exist. Funny thing is the question of historicity was generally settled in scholarship in the early 20th century, before you even thought to exist.
Mark Smith, John Meier, Paula Frederiksen and Helen Bond amongst others have all supported this consensus view in their various works. So anyone still questioning this at this time obviously doesn't know what they're saying and are not to be taken seriously...

When you are ready to provide evidence for the historicity of Jesus let me know..

Can't you get what somebody who actually met him and what they wrote about him.
Is it not funny that the "son of God" made an entrance and nobody noticed it. Somebody the authors said his ministry went as far as Syria..common man..

Luciii:
(Fucking Nairaland deleting my comments for adding sources. wth! Ill add em as a pic instead)

...Even if you want to go by concensus by countries. There is not a single country on earth that i know of with a consensus that Jesus never existed: see attached image.

Also the 2015 survey of scholars in the field of New Testament studies conuninformed the Society For Biblical Literature SBL, reported 93% of respondents believed Jesus existed historically, 6% were uncertain, 1% did not believe Jesus existed.

What evidence did these reputable scholars with years of experience studying this the world over, examine to come to the conlusion and consensus they did more than 80 years ago?! One, the synoptic gospels themselves and before you say it can't be used as evidence this is what the legendary Dr Bart which you cited had to say "To dismiss the Gospels from the historical record is neither fair nor scholarly." Another is the Pauline epistles which were even written before the gospels and i mean the actual 7 Pauline letters out of the attributed 13.

The interesting thing is they analysed external evidence to corroborate and add to the evidence of the new testament texts which led to the consensus. Jewish historian Jospehus in his book Antiquities, that specifically mentions Jesus twice and his crucifixion by Pontius Pilate. Roman historian Tacitus In his Annals mentions Jesus' execution by Pontius Pilate and refers to the existence of Christians in Rome, whom he describes as followers of “Christus.”

Add another Roman historian Suetonius: In The Lives of the Caesars, Suetonius mentions disturbances in Rome “at the instigation of Christus”. This is nor even considering Eusebius as he's controversial or the historical context of other messianic claimants around the same time period. and contextual evidence from the documented matyrdom of followers and the rapid spread of christianity.

Then more than 80 years later after the historicity had been established, one psuedo informed, anonymous random on the internet who can't even get his references right comes to state otherwise all cause he consumed some half baked info from garbage youtube sources,  when experts already had this settled before the birth of his parents?!. What an uninformed close minded joker. I'm not even a christain but common sense says facts are facts. Over to you, lets see your "sources" and "evidences" and the academic community that backs it.  lol!

Which evidences did they consider?

Every body knows that the evidence in Josephus work is fake as it was Christians who had it and added those stuff..
All the others are too far to be considered evidence...

I see you trying so hard...simply because you don't want to accept the fact that you have lived your whole life believing a lie...and probably wasted your whole money on it..

GothamCities:
Lol. Yet, we use the words of the Bible to break the words of ifa and the witches that ifa acknowledges.

If ifa is greater than the Bible, please show me the control ifa's words have had over the nations as demonstrated on this thread for the Bible.

Ifa is God's special gift to the yoruba people.
Every nation have their own...their own oracle.
The Jews have theirs and the yorubas have theirs...
God is God everywhere...there is only one God who is the creator of heaven and earth.. it is just the name that is different.
I think you are reading too much of the Jewish myths, that you have lost track with reality...there is only one power on earth..not two ...one and it belongs to the creator...
The so called sons of God are what the yorubas call orisha. They represents sent laws and principles of life...

Rapture is fake..

We all live under God's dome...the firmament.

I guess the point of the dream is that you have to strive for a higher consciousness. And to achieve that you have to do away with the pleasures of the body...like smoking, drinkin excessively....etc.

God is the universal divine consciousness fully embodied..

The king of persia is a principality (ie principle of life) it is a metaphor for procastination.
The prince of persia is procastination nothing more.
I go ...
I go...
I go..
For 21 days,
Until he summoned the strength(Michael) to do it.......

Message here: avoid procastination it is the thief of time..

Because he was a Roman construct...

The real Messiah is a king..

He will be the one to collect both tax and tithe....

Not pay them.

GothamCities:
But you said ifa is superior to the God of Israel.

No..ifa is superior to the Bible

Olodumare is same as the God of Israel...with a different name..

A father can't be put to death for the sins of his son.
A son can't be put to death for the sins of the father...
A man dying for the sin of another goes against natural justice. If it does not work with man, it certainly won't work with God...

A human sacrifice for sin belongs to the realm of Lucifer. It is an abomination in the site of God..when he sent Jonah to Ninevah to preach to them. They repented of their sins and God forgave them. No human or animal sacrifice was needed or required..
All he desires is a sincere repentance and he would forgive. Except you want to advice God that his solution is not sufficient..Then take it up with him. If God says if I repent, he would forgive me..I think I am ok with that. It is the same God who said "Thou shall not kill"..He is not turning around to use the death of a human being as a "get out of jail card"....that is in the realm of Lucifer...

GothamCities:
Are you talking about Olodumare or ifa?

Olodumare is the creator
Ifa is the word of God...

ichuka:
Why does God not declare himself as the God of Adam? For we know that Abraham sinned even as Adam did. Why then did He not call himself the God of Adam? Why did He not say the God of Abel, the seed of Adam? Why instead did He call himself the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob? Why according to the flesh was our Lord Jesus presented in the New Testament as having been born of the seed of Abraham? Why from among all men should God have called himself the God of these three particular persons?

The author wrote it like that...

Your job is to read it and learn the spiritual message in it...

Not question it...

GothamCities:
I have proven on this thread that the God of Israel has control over the nations. Now prove for us how your ifa is more superior to the God whom has demonstrated that He is the Creator of the world? Who is ifa?

The yoruba belief system.
Where Olodumare reigns supreme..
As the creator of the universe and man...

Everybody coming here to blab,

What I have always done is show that Christianity is not derived from Judaism..

It developed most likely in Egypt during the time of Ptolemy 1 soter as the worship of serapis...

Captain4Jehovah:
Enlil also known as Elil and Ellil is a Mesopotamia god of wind, air, earth and storms. He was a chief deity of the Sumerian pantheon but later worshipped by Akkadians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Hurrians[All Mesopotamians] Do know that God called Abraham out of Mesopotamia which was a chief center for idols worshipping and spiritual engagements including magic, spiritism, etc. Joshua 24:2 says, "And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood[Mesopotamia, emphasis is mine] in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods."

Why did the holy God ordered Abraham to leave Haran(Haran was in Mesopotamia and it is the present day Iraq) his native land? The first thing evident in his call was to establish His name.(Gen.12, 15; Exo.6:3). The second thing is to continue and actualize His original plan for the earth. The third thing is for the race of man to understand the BEING to relate with;other gods were being worshipped before his call, abominable things were being done while he was in his native land. Libations to unknown gods(Acts17:22-23), adultery, human sacrifices, witchcrafts, spiritism and medium consultation, magic, etc were their common practices.
Each tribe and tongue has its own pantheon and supreme deity's name they worship except the tribe of Israel whose form of religion is monotheistic in nature.

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6 : 4

Note that the Israelites were punished each time they served other gods(Exodus 32; compare Psalm 16:4).

For Jews calling Yahweh "Hashem", means "the name" is a way to honour God because of the holy reverence attached to God's personal name, YHWH_"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, HALLOWED BE THY NAME."
Matthew 6 : 9

Anyway, I am still doubting the name of God, YHWH in Yoruba as "OLODUMARE."

What do yorubas call the creator of the universe? Either Olodumare or Eledumare....which is same being as YHWH in Judaism..

Why do people always fall for the Jewish propaganda? And hold their myth every other myth...I don't get it...
The yoruba ifa is 1000 times more superior than the Jewish propaganda...

Explain to me...

Satan is just the Orisha of the air or wind...

He is of great importance to us as we have learnt to harness it for energy by building a wind vane.

Some countries has even constructed a wind farm to generate large energy for the society, we are talking of clean energy.

He also helps to cool our bodies on a hot day...

See, satan is not evil at all, for any case, he is a good ally.
Evil comes from people making bad judgement and from ignorance...

God, so loved us...he can't create an evil being to torment us....

Anybody thinking so, is nothing but demented

Lucifer is not a proper name ...it is a title. And only a female can have such title.
Much like "iye oba" . Only a woman can have that title. Lucifer means light bearer. The last time I checked only a woman can bear, the man just provide the seed.
Lucifer was a title for Venus.(A goddess). She is the morning star.
The Christians also know her as Mary the mother of jesus, because jesus is the light according to the gospel of John. St. Jerome was the first to use that word in his Latin vulgate ,was giving you all a code, only few can decipher..
Lucifer is a title for the so called queen of heaven and several goddess come into play. Inanna, Aphrodite, Venus, Kali, Ishtar, Isis, osun(in Yoruba mythology) etc...are all different incarnations of Lucifer..

She is the goddess(Orisha) of love, wisdom, death, war and destruction....

Love her or hate her....she Is the keeper of balance..

I really don't know why she and Marduk are enemies..Any body here can help me out.

In Isaiah 43:10 when God says he's the only one and besides him there's no other god formed neither shall there be after him. I'm just curious as to which part of God is speaking? Is it the Father, Son, Holy Spirit or is it all three speaking at the same time?

I am 100% sure I am living for myself and I AM enjoying it to the full nest...

I am God(pure consciousness) living within a physical body made from dust.
After this life is over, I go back being God....I may decide to comeback here again...if I desire..or go and explore other world.

The laws of this world firmly written in my heart....I am walking with and in perfect unity with the source....

Whatever I desire, I speak it into existence...and it is established...

GothamCities:
You're really dumb! Too dumb for that matter!

Why Cyrus might think it was Marduk that was helping him, it was actually YHWH. Cyrus didn't know YHWH. 150yrs before Cyrus was born, YHWH already foretold about Cyrus.

Isaiah 45:4

"For the sake of my servant Jacob and Israel my chosen, I call you by your name, giving you a title, though you do not know me."

It is the height of dumbness to think that since YHWH helped Cyrus, and Cyrus worshipped Marduk, hence YHWH is Marduk. Very unintelligent conclusion.

Believe what you like..

The truth is the truth.....whatever you believe does not change it...