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Someone brought some Mobil 1 advance fuel economy engine oil for the next generation of Toyota engines. I am yet to get the price list and I will put his number on the thread soon. The oil is 10000 miles guaranteed unlike most of us who have the belief that Extended performance is good for small engine. Advance fuel economy Mobil 1 is the way to go. A Toyota 2.7 engine cannot use the same oil with a 5.0 Range Rover engine. Don't waste your money on frivolities. Buy the engine oil that is suitable for your car. Our Favoil Engine Oil test will soon begin once my TV crew resume transmission on DStv. The numbers of participants were overwhelming but we only needed 5 motorists. It's time to get rid of overhyped engine oils and use the right one for your engine

radautoworks:
ROFL!! i've posted it on NL a couple of times. You can always log into our website to see pricing and inventory availability in both Lekki and Florida.
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Oil is under "Heavy Duty, Chemicals, Accessories & Tools". If you open a commercial account you get different prices and your own portal with your own username and password where you can actually place orders 24/7 from either Lekki or Florida.

I will do that.

[quote author=radautoworks post=98340365][/quote]Please ma, I was shocked that you have royal purple and you never told us or do you want me to travel to the island to know what is available in your office? I am interested in the oil. My range rover brand needs better oil

Activity77:
Boss what's the best oil for camry 2008 i4 engine though I have been using 5w30 synthetic... Thanks

Your 2008 Toyota Camry recommends 5w20 or 0w20 and not 5w30. But you are advised to use the 5w30 if the recommended oil is not available and revert immediately to the recommended oil. One thing that I am always curious about is that Toyota started recommending 5w20 ditto Honda 3 years before Range Rover began recommending 5w20 and many more years before they asked us to be using 0w20. When people are using Mobil 1 extended performance 5w20 on a Toyota, it's like using premium unleaded fuel on a 2007 Camry. The 5w20 recommended for Toyota cars in 2007 is not the same 5w20 recommended for a 5.0 V8 engine of a Range Rover. Waste of money. Someone asked why should royal purple API SL be rated higher than Mobil 1 API SN? For Toyota cars that requires API SL and SJ, the royal purple is very suitable for it than Mobil 1 API SN because though it is backward compatible with the lower specifications, it's better to use the one suitable for the car.

CHIMCO:
Please Sir, have you checked the review of the prime Guild oil in the US?

I will do it tonight and let you know

radautoworks:
That doesn't look like US stock. Can you get a clearer picture of it straight on?

I have invited the seller to come on board to answer your queries.

radautoworks:
this royal purple doesn't look right... Where did it come from?

The US. According to the importer, it's an API SL and diesel engine oil. The one that you displayed is the API SN but his own is the API SL variant. It is only available for cars that requires SL. Your Lexus is under the range of the oil

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According to him, it has zinc properties and it's also a gasoline and diesel engine oil

CHIMCO:
Thanks Sir. so grateful. I will like to have the contact no of the distributor of the Royal Purple.

I will send it out later today

aieromon:
Maybe or maybe not, you are yet to share literature or personal oil analysis that supports this claim. I prefer to focus on API ratings rather than delve into arguments about the best oil manufacturers. Why would I leave a SN+ or SP certified oil and use one with SL ratings just because of the hype about the brand?

There's no way I will recommend any engine oil with SL or SM rating for use in 2021.

You are very correct. I will not do the same but what we are talking about is those cars that requires API SL. If API SP works best for Toyota that requires SL, good but if the engine of Toyotas is one of the best selling engines in the market, why not prevent it by using the right API rating. Toyota tiny light requires API SJ. If I use 5w30 SN, can it work perfectly on the car seeing that it is backward compatible? Or I can use an API SL rating on the car and it will work perfectly than using SN plus on an Apl SL required vehicle.

aieromon:
Edit: I can't seem to find any Royal Purple 5w30 with SL rating online. Maybe you should reconfirm the API rating.

I have called for the gallon pic. The importer imported large quantities with out understanding the dynamic of the oil specifications. All he imported was the API SL just like Motul energy is also API SL but according to the vehicle spec sheet, Motul API SL is recommended for range rover brand but I have not tried it on a range rover. Generally, Royal purple is higher than Castrol and Mobil 1 in oil ratings but the one available right now locally is the API SL variant which like I said, will suit Toyota cars that calls for 5w30 API SL

aieromon:
Pardon my ignorance, do you have any literature or personal oil analysis data to support this?

To support which?

9icetoo:
How can royal purple with api SL be better than Mobil 1 with API SN?
On what planet does that happen?

Royal purple is in the group 5 of the base oils used to produce it. Royal purple is my recommendation for cars that requires API SL . Mobil 1 is backward compatible and if it is losing oil on some cars, then there's need to focus on the specific oil for your car

Great specifications. It is very current. But testing the efficiency is what is needed. I did a review of Castrol extended performance 5w20 on a 2014 Hyundai sonata and to our surprise, the oil was low. just four months of usage. It's not that it's fake but it's not proper for the oil to be used on the car because when Porsche and Range Rover recommends Castrol oil, Hyundai will never do the same. Every car has its own Oil requirements and we should follow the instructions or meet radautoworks for revival of your car

CHIMCO:
Please Sir what do have to say about Prime Guild Motor Oil? They have full synthetic and blend synthetic of 5w 30. According to them it is a US oil with the same standard with Mobile 1. 5w 30. You did not mention it at all I'm your Review. Please I need your opinion.

I am yet to come across the oil. In the yard where I work, it has not even appeared there. I also have a way to check out its review in the US and I will try to do so. For those of you looking for the best oil with no shortage and performance rating very high. There is Royal purple sold in Nigeria but it is an API SL and so Toyota lovers should take advantage of the season. I will invite the guy to the thread to talk about his product. Royal purple is higher than Mobil 1 but the one available is the API SL variant of 5w30.

dollarnaira:
Can d owner of this thread close it once and for all?

All i noticed here is, condemn one oil to sell another oil.
Thread summary.

My car is old ooo but i make use of mineral oil forte oil 20w..... The shocking part of my life is dat d engine sound keeps improving after 3yrs of continuous use bc my manual says so.

Okay. There was a time when we complained that Cars45 were selling junk cars to the public and I was wondering if they were the manufacturer of the junk cars. We have oil marketing companies in the country who are selling oil for our cars, cars majorly imported from the USA and it behoves on these companies to produce oils suitable for these cars. In the 90s, it was the European cars that were in vogue but from 2002 when the Americans decided to make Nigeria their hub, our motor industry has enveloped into something else. All those guys fixing Peugeot are now experts in other brands except The Lion King. A common comparison is the yellow taxi in Lagos who are still waiting in their taxi stand for passengers while everyone is using Uber to come and pick them up. The Taxi drivers are not aware that time has passed them by. So the question is this, why are the oil marketing companies still selling outdated oils to us when they know that the oil that they import to sell locally is not good for the current crop of cars from the USA. Like the Lion King stated, engines and gearboxes are being imported daily into ladipo because the market is booming. Why do engines fail here? The use of wrong oil is the only reason. Overheating in cars is also caused by the oil because the oil is supposed to be a coolant that removes heat from the engine and if you claim that your Forte oil makes your engine quieter, good luck to you. A lot of people are using their cars without thermostat and the fan running always, the engine will never get to the normal operating temperature and when you look at those engines, they are awaiting results of when a mechanic and the parts seller will renew their friendship by the purchase of a used Engine. I have seen scenarios of when a range rover engine goes bad, and the engine is over 3m, the owner sells it off as scrap. As for the oil as per your manual, continue with it because it is good to follow the instructions of the manufacturer. Final question, if Toyota says that you should use 0w20 for the car, where will you get the oil among our local oil marketing companies?

timenamoney:
who needs your audience? , when the audience are just reading and leaning the truth

You never answered any of my technical questions to your unrecommended recommendations , so I think you're not technically inclined

U are the one that is I'll mannered , when u are busy quoting DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN when am giving a recommended advise , as if you know me In person or know more than me , but at last you're the one having fraudulent complains in the trend by nairaland users

There are engine oils in Nigeria that clearly says FOR PETROL ENGINE and that's what Toyota normally recommend , so stop the dancing around

Am not in any competition with you , am only paying attention to your unrecommended advise that may harm nairalanders engines

We disagree to agree

Cheers anyway

oh, so because of that statement of don't listen to this man, you started your tirade. Why don't you go back to the original statement and read if I was the one that made the statement. And there is nothing like wrong recomendations. Car manufacturers never envisaged that a lot of people will ignore their simple recommendations of the use of the oil. The engine flush works very well and it has not been banned in the USA because it was made there for their cars. If there are oils sold locally that suits Toyota and Honda requirements, let us know.

Ikenna351:
If that video and images I attached on that my posts are too hard for you to understand, then I honestly cannot level with you technically. For the information on that video and images concerning that oil, PSA engines and Nigeria are clearly stated on them in ABC (even the video clearly stated/showed Nigeria as one of the countries the oil is recommended for, for those PSA engines). Unless you suddenly considered Nigeria as the coldest country in the world. For gosh sake, the "HTC" on the oil stands for "High Temperature Countries". Maybe to you, Nigeria is hotter, dustier and hasher than deserts/middle East? Or to you, Nigeria weather is too cold and mild to use engine oil meant to handle hot weather, bad fuel and dusty environment?

Since I started breathing in this body and having memories, I have never set my eyes physically on any Total oil with 0w-20 label. Why is that a problem to you? If it exists in Lagos, does it mean it's here in Abuja city too and that I must have seen it and lying about it? Why don't you tell us where it exists in Total fuel stations in Abuja city? My average visit to Total fuel station weekly is once or twice and I haven't seen that oil or one caught my attention. And if even if they do exist here, it's meaningless to me, for no modern Peugeot petrol engine is recommended to use any 0w-20, irrespective of oil brand. So why should I care?

As for you saying I condemned all Total oils before, I am wondering if you are mistaken me for someone else or you have shown me the other side of you I didn't know was there. Majority of my haters on Car Talk do so because of my love and promotion of French cars (Peugeot) and French Oils (Total), because of their hatred for these 2 brands. And you are here saying the opposite (I was condemning what they hated me for?). You could as well claim I was condemning all Peugeot vehicles to sweeten your claim.

I recalled publishing that THP Peugeot engine users should avoid using Total Quartz INEO MC3 5w-30 in their engines, since Peugeot/PSA didn't recommend that oil for those THP engines. It's that what you considered as "Lion King was condemning Total INEO oils"? So to you, any oil with Total label can be used in Peugeot or is good for Peugeot? Total INEO is a series of about 15 different engine oils from Total, out of which only about 4 of them were approved by Peugeot/PSA to be used in their THP, EP6, VTi ,etc, engines. So my advice to people not to use these Total oils that are not recommended for
those Peugeot engines, meant to you that I was condemning Total oils? Or you meant my posts, articles, videos and my other publications where I strongly advised people not to use Total Quartz 5000 20w-50 in their modern PSA engines, meant to you I was condemning Total oils?

Like I said, I don't think I can level with you technically, especially on PSA vehicles. Moving on.

Lion King - Monk.

Thanks for your time. Is the advanced synthetic oil of the HTC that you quoted in the service chart, the same as the synthetic technology that your pictures showed that was available in Abuja? You are in contact with the Total specialties manager. Please ask him for the Futures 0w20 if it exists here and for which vehicles.

timenamoney:
Toyota do not RECOMMEND using engine oils for petrol and Diesel engines, like favoil, for there engines , rather they recommend oils for petrol engines ONLY

Why do you have problems with manufacturers recommendations

ARE you addicted to damaging customers engines , stupid kaseem, take it easy

I think you are naturally wicked , because you have been randomly informed of the disadvantages , but you still insist just to put more money in your pocket and have more sales

I didn't want to give audience to you because of your ill mannered approach to technical details. We are not in any competition neither did I start the topic you wanted to start. For your information, Total is petrol and diesel, Oando is Petrol and Diesel, Mobil 1 esp 5w30 and 0w40 are all petrol and diesel, Forte 5w30 is petrol and diesel. Hardex is 5w30 but is gasoline engine only and it dries. Micking is 5w30 gasoline engine only but it dries too. Favoil is an English engine oil and if it can stop oil shortage in cars and reduce the heat in an engine, good. A lot of people are using G life engine oil on a 3.5, 4.8 Toyota engines but they refused to read at the back of the gallon that G Life is suitable for Compact small engine and people are using it for a v8. I don't import engine oil neither do I sell. I once used a 20w50 Oil on my Range Rover Sport and the engine almost died because the oil was too heavy for the engine. In fact the engine never recovered from the wahala. Sludge is a major problem affecting a lot of cars using mineral oil and these oils does not have sludge protection. Whenever an engine clatters, the major problem is because of the use of wrong oil. When an engine oil mixes with water, the oil cooler could not handle the wrong use of the oil and so it goes awry. The essence of the thread of which you are free to contribute the awesome knowledge that you have read, is to educate motorists to consider the people who will buy the car after they have misused the car and listen to the manufacturer. No nigerian oil marketing company is selling the oil meant for Toyota, not now and not in the future because Toyota Camry 07 has no oil that the manufacturer has recommended for the car. Experience should be your best teacher and not knowledge.

Ikenna351:
Like I said earlier, you are not a Peugeot expert/specialist or understand Peugeot systems and their fluid recommendations. All you needed to do was listen to a Peugeot expert (Me) educating you rather than argue what you don't understand.

This is the Peugeot 3008 you claimed is not recommended for INEO HTC 5w-30, unless you want also want to tell me Nigeria is hotter and dustier than Middle East.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_MWu-dtRfM

Attached below are service schedules from Peugeot (PSA) for Peugeot 508, 3008 and other lions with THP engines in Nigeria you claimed are not recommended for Total Quartz INEO HTC 5w-30.

If you are interested, you can contact me off the forum via WhatsApp to educate you on PSA fluid recommendations (I have your WhatsApp line already).

Lion king - Monk.

Thank you sir monk. But the oil that you are quoting is from the middle East. We have Total in Nigeria, I will suggest that you show us the video from Nigeria. I have told my secretary to read your posts on this thread where you condemned all the oils from Total stable just some years ago and you are now praising the ineos while Total is selling the Futures 0w20 in their outlets and you claimed that you are not aware of the oil. I have never claimed to be a Peugeot expert because it is hard to be one especially on a Peugeot

timenamoney:
I can see you are addicted to engine flush products , and like experimenting with customers car engines , maybe because the customer you knocked his engine with engine flush at your Abuja kazeem outlet didn't ask u to pay , maybe one day you will meet your March and DOOM ,

MANUFACTURERS DO NOT RECOMMEND ENGINE FLUSH

if I have a kazeem outlet like you , I will advise customers to do shorter oil change to remove sludge OR with engine oil that have more cleaning ADDICTIVES , e.g SEMI SYNTHETIC BEFORE GOING SYNTHETIC

U ARE SO UNRECOMMENDED and I pity those who will fall victim to your junkyard kazeem ideas

Remember to check PERSONAL CRANCASE VENTILATION VALVE ( PCV)of the engines before you proceed , because it's responsible for engine ventilation ,if it's not sucking heat and blow-by from the engine , oil temps increase and start burning and pressure can start damaging engine oil seals

Try posting the API RATING of the engines oil so that customers can see if it's compatible with their cars

REMEMBER this engine oil is a FULLY SYNTHETIC OIL with more cleaning ADDICTIVES that can do the job, but can harm the engine if there's too much sludge , using unrecommended aftermarket flush before using FULLY SYNTHETIC won't produce cleaning results, because the engine maybe already cleaned , so why will you want to over clean a customer engine

Pls note: A 5000 miles old customer's dirty oil will not be best option to put those flush, used half of it if you insist , to reduce damaging another engine

Timenamoney the automobile lord

Thanks for your advice.

Ikenna351:
That's not correct. You do understand I specialise in Peugeot? I don't do theories or hearsay when it comes to Peugeot.

I can understand you don't understand Peugeot at all, including their recommendations and practicality (online opinions and offline experiences from users/repairers).

Lion King - Monk.

Lion king, good evening. This your new love for Ineos is outstanding. If I have the time, I will look for your post where you condemned the oils that Total currently sells. Peugeot 3008 recommended oil is Total activa, ditto the 508, I used to go to Oluwalogbon motors in Alausa and when I asked them where to find the oil, they said that the car must be brought to the dealership before the oil can be used. Google the oil requirements for the Peugeot 3008 and tell us if it is the same with Ineos. Mobil 1 esp has a higher recommendation than the Ineos and if you claim that you have not seen the 0w20 variant of Total, go to their Abuja office or come to Total at Sheraton and you will get it there.

alphaNomega:
How does oil filter affect sludge in an engine?

Oil filter, like the name implies is designed to filter the oil circulating the engine and maintain a debris free engine. Everytime you start your car, there's an explosion between the spark plugs and the fuel and once it ignites, the car starts and at some point, the oil flows and dumps the dirt into the filter. There are filters that are long interval and there are those we term 3rd party insurance. Using such filters and mineral oil is a recipe for disaster.

Please I am currently reviewing Favoil Engine Oil. I want to do free oil change for any Toyota that is losing oil and with little sludge. We are testing the 5w30 variant of the oil. First 5 interested motorists with any brand of Toyota that is shorting oil should please send me an SMS on 08098534267. You will provide the air and oil filters and we will supply the engine oil. The review of the oil will determine the suitability of the oil for your car and get rid of those expensive Oil

alphaNomega:
The duration of mineral oil use does not matter. You shouldn't have used engine flush, synthetic oil would gradually take out all and any sludge in the engine as long as you change the oil regularly (i.e. every 5000 miles unless otherwise specified by the car manufacturer)

I used to be worried about switching from 20w50 to 5w-x, not any more. One of my major concerns was the cost of synthetic oi, but considering the time and money spent due to engine failure from 20w-50 use, it is worth it

You are correct but I have been using 20w50 on cars that requires synthetic oil and it was for 3000 miles or 3 months and it worked perfectly and we also put a service sticker on the car. I saw that a lot of the customers adhered to the regime of 3000 miles but there was no protection against sludge and after 3 days or less, you will find sludge on the oil cover. For it to be there, it means that it has accumulated inside the engine. So a lot of people are not aware that the 20w50 does not have sludge protection and the oil strainer gets blocked, and the oil pump is finding it difficult to flow easily and coupled with cheap oil filter( no one who uses mineral oil will never buy filters above N1500) and so these factors produces the sludge. Not every synthetic oil can eliminate sludge, instead the sludge dries up the oil and you will be hearing the old news of 2rz engine having an engine defect. The reason for this thread is to help us to reduce the ugly acronym that Nigeria is the last bus stop for every car that made a mistake to follow the ship on a cruise sailing to Africa and ended up in Nigeria.

timenamoney:
what wrong even if he has been using it for years? Do u know his oil change intervals , did u ask the for used oil analysis or compression test results ? Did he tell you he has sludge to give such a unrecommended advise ?hmm DO MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMEND ENGINE FLUSH? Because you wrongly flush and knocked someone else good or dieing engine Instead of using a semi synthetic oil to gradually flush the engine with shorter oil change intervals before going to synthetic , Go Learn how to give advice on automobile question ok? Or concentrate in your engine oil business Mr Abuja outlet
Fxxk you for knocking that engine

Maybe the corona phase 2 is affecting you.

Berachahrent:
Genuine Autoparts.

This tyres with the C is for which car?

alphaNomega:
if your engine oils changes have been regular, you can switch to synthetic oil with no problems. Speaking from experience.

You would notice better performance from your car especially during cold starts.

He said that he has been using the oil for many years. There was a guy who brought his Toyota to our former outlet in Abuja and the car was filled with sludge. We used engine flush and the engine knocked. It is a dicey scenario

If I may recall, the new 508 and 3008 turbo boost, the oil that is recommended for both cars by Peugeot is Total Activa, so ineos can not be the oil solution for Peugeot.

Ikenna351:
TOTAL QUARTZ INEO HTC 5W-30 IS NOW AVAILABLE AT TOTAL NIGERIA IN ABUJA FOR SALE:

If own and drive PSA vehicles with THP, VTi and other newer Peugeot Engines in newer Peugeot vehicles like Peugeot 207, 208, 2008, 308, 3008, 508, RCZ, etc, the Peugeot recommended Engine oil from Total is now available in Abuja at cheaper price (N17,500 per 5-liter, as of today 10/01/2021).

If you don't want to be complaining of frequent turbocharger failure, timing chain & tensioner failures, complete engine failure, rapid oil burn or oil shortage, etc, go and get yours now, as many as you can, before it goes out of stock or price increases. I purchased 2 containers (10 liters) for a client this afternoon when I saw them at Zone 4 Junction Total fuel station, Abuja.

Also, users of some other PSA engines like EW10J4 can also use the oil, including other PSA Engines recommended to use B71 2297 oil certification which I have listed numerous times.

Lion King - Monk.

Great info for all Peugeot owners. Have you seen the 0w20 variant from Total and what is the vehicles that it is recommended for?

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