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dollarnaira:
Venue pls?

Federal palace hotel

Shalomc:
What is the problem with these people? One of them said it was 18k for 10W-40 semisynthetic. Is the one you priced conventional oil?

It was 9500 and api sl. I was excited because I was looking for such grade to service a freelander and I managed Total Q7000. The synthetic goes for 13500. I was amused that MRS intend to sell in the Ecowas region hence the bilingual info on the gallon. The lub manager promised to send the details that I asked for but I am still waiting for his call. Thanks for your efforts. With the upward review of the minimum benchmark to Api sf, all those oils that are a disgrace to the brand should be withdrawn from the market. SON should have taken the review to Api sj which will allow better products into the market. Honda baby boy v6 requires 5w20 api sj and the owners are using any 20w50 they find.
Investigation continues....... Join me at the auto fair tomorrow. It is a must be event. Our vehicles future is at stake.

The 10w40 that I saw which is 9500 is api sl. The total oil packages are not healthy. The lub guy promised to call back but he has not done that. He claimed that the api sc/sd on the sae 50 is an error. On where they got the NIS sticker, though it is voluntary, we decided to talk later. I cannot advice anyone to use the 5w40 when we dont have any vehicle approval for the oil. At least let it even be Gm diesel.

dollarnaira:
What!!!!
Api Sc?
This is evil..

Na today? Some driver will buy the oil to service a 17m Toyota Corolla and claim good for our weather.

Shalomc:
Call this 014614505 that should be the lubricant manager

Thanks. I have spoken to him now

Shalomc:
Oh good. I just spoke with an engineer at the mrs head office... Who promised to give me the number of the lubricant manager. Kudos.

How did they get NIS logo on the API SC SD and SF?

Waiting for the number. Been trying to call those lines you gave and it is a waste of funds. Like I stated earlier, the new minimum benchmark is API SF. And it is becoming interesting.........

Findings

Just called SON and they told me that they recently upgraded the minimum oil benchmark to API SF and that there are no additives to even support API SD obsolete oils. The NIS mark on MRS products is misleading as they cannot use the mark on an API SC which was below their minimum benchmark in 2004. The API Sd has been on since 2004 and was recently reviewed to API SF. So what are we doing with all these obsolete oils in the country. Even the SF is obsolete but SON used their church mind and reviewed it.

Investigation continues.....

They are truthful sha o. They put danfo and santana fotos on one of their oils while forgetting that danfo drivers use roadside oil to service their buses

Shalomc:
Oh good. I just spoke with an engineer at the mrs head office... Who promised to give me the number of the lubricant manager. Kudos.

How did they get NIS logo on the API SC SD and SF?

That is what baffles me. I need the lubricant number please. This oil is something else. They are hoarding information.

Shalomc:
Be fast with the report.

At your behest, I went to the MRS at ile zik and saw the elusive synthetic oil. Apart from it being an Api sn, there is no information about the vehicles that it has approval for, only that it was made in Holland. I saw the other obsolete oils. Api sc/sd and api sf and it even has NIS logo on it.
Investigation continues

Shalomc:
Be fast with the report.

Yes ma.

Merci

Shalomc:
Sir you will have to get the oil yourself. Happy oiling.

Laissé tombé alors. The review is not feasible without the oil. Do it yourself. Oil that is not even on your website, is that oil?

Shalomc:
Correct. We await the response and your review. The SAE 50 is API SF.

Api sf for cars produced in 1988. 30 years old vehicles. Peugeot 504 sl and Gr. Vw Santana and Lada and Volga, and Vw igala, and Vw beetles aka tortoise car and Suzuki. Api SF was the reason SON raided the warehouse of Seahorse claiming substandard products. Why are the avoiding the major oil dealers is strange. Anyway, good to know. We are on. Dont forget to send me all those information and oil so that we can start the process. Good morning

Anyway, it is good to note that you are interested in the review of the MRS Synthetic oil. On your website, there is no information about the oil.

See a copied part from the website. FUELS & LUBRICANTS
Our Product & Services
MRS offers numerous products and services designed specifically for the consumer. The company markets fuels in Nigeria under the MRS brand. In addition to branded fuels, we also offer consumers a variety of high-quality lubricants. The lubricants are manufactured and supplied from the company’s state of the art proprietary blending facility located at apapa.

MRS provides businesses country wide with superior and reliable products and services. The company’s fuels, lubricants, commercial, industrial and retail operations nation wide allows businesses to focus on their core strengths while leaving the service aspect to us.

Our Fuels Product Lines

Petroleum motor spirit (PMS) They claimed it is high quality. Unleaded Regular is now high quality
Automotive Gas Oil (AGO)
Dual Purpose Kerosene (DPK)
Aviation Kerosene (ATK)
Low pour fuel Oil (LPFO)
Our Lubricants Product Lines

Petrol Engine
MRS Premier Xtra Formula ( Is this the synthetic? I dont think so either. So where can I review the oil if I cant get any info on your website.)
MRS Premier Super SAE 40 ( This is the one you use for your C 240? Chei, Benz don hear am for Naija. Nigerian people, una too wicked.)
MRS Premier Motor Oil SAE 50. ( You complained about API Specification but on your website, there is no mention if they are all API SD or SF)
Diesel Engine ( Make I waka pass)
MRS Stallion Xtra Premium 15W 40
MRS Stallion Diesel Super LA 40
MRS Stallion Diesel HD 40
Greases
MRS Crystal grease 3
MRS Crystal All purpose EP 2
Automotive Gear Oil
MRS Motorgear EP 90 ( What happened to 75w90 gear oils. Abi the hot weather is affecting the axles?
Industrial Oils
MRS Turbo R&O
MRS Hydro HD
MRS Gearbox When you say gearbox, what does that mean?

To make my review easier, please send us the two gallons. We can pick it up at your Ile Zik outlet. You can call me too on 08098534267. Let us help your products by giving it an objective review. Note that Oando has moved to 5w30 full synthetic with BMW LL04 and many more. You can also send me the number of the lubricant manager so that I can bypass protocol. You can also send me the data spec sheet of the 5w40 through automobilesng@yahoo.com and the approved vehicles list. let me use this week to know more about the oil. I am taking up the challenge because I believe that we should not judge a book by the cover.

Thanks, will do that

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Make it available for him now. Abi you didn't see where he has been saying he is looking for the oil?[/quote]Thank you o for coming to help. Doportivo, where are you. I want to use your sienna to crosscheck the Mrs oil in your car if the viscosity is still intact.

Are you ready for the off road competition?

I will do that if you can direct me to where I can get the oil. Meanwhile I will be at the auto fair on Tuesday in Victoria Island. Hope you will be there too.

dollarnaira:
Well said shalomc his concerns should b d Api grading in Nigeria.Visco 2000 is Sl whether it is sl or not i dont v d tech to determine dat.How is he even sure whether d imported api too are true.Oh bc it is imported?

Visco super static is API SG 20w50 and it is obsolete. Like you rightly stated, we dont even know if what they claim to be is true. I am not promoting imported oils but making the local oil marketers to change their orientation about the market specification for our oil. SON is still putting their logo on obsolete oils and since that is the order of the day, then we should look elsewhere. Has MRS improved on their products since they took over from Texaco?

If you have read the thread, you will notice that I have not said a word about MRS. I have not seen the product and so I cant even talk about it/ There is an outlet at Ajah and I wanted to buy from them and they had none. I was at Grammar school rd junction at Ojodu and I did ask for it and they did not have it. There is even an outlet at the back of my workshop at ille zik and it is not there, the few times that I have gone to buy fuel there. Should I engage a town crier?

Send two gallons of the oil to my workshop and let me check it out. Also bring 6 litres of the dexron 111 too. Thanks And there is also a possibility that we might invite you to our radio program AUTOWATCH on radio 103.5 FM to tell the motoring public more about the oil. Reminder that the MRS and Forte are the only 5w40 that claims to be synthetic. Total Q9000 is synthetic blemd

Shalomc:
What do you think about MRS synthetic oil or liqui moly synthetic oil 5W 40, 10W 40? Is their quality reliable? I am interested in this cause.

Are you working for MRS? You seem to be asking questions about the product. Can you help highlight the attributes of the oil and the approvals with major brands of vehicles?

How much is 2018 toyots corrola?

Every car has the manufacturer approval suitability to use their oil. You get this Api Sn and then when you read the approvals, you will see Bmw LL01 and MB 229.1 or 3. So many inconsistencies. Modern oiks needs BMW approval for Long life 04. Some just write it on their sticker like Forte sunth. Theirs is LL01 and there are so many oils like that that knows that we dont read. There is this wonderful oil called G Life that has all the numbers but they wrote at the back of their gallon that their oil is suitable for compact cars. Even with that infomation, I see people using the oil on Lexus V8 all because it is a 5w20.

I have not used any. When you look at the gallon of MRS, you will be afraid of the content in that gallon. I was once a fan of texaco ATF because as at 2008, it was the only Dexron 111 in Nigeria that you can get openly. Then you now see the atf sold by MRS, then you will run away from their outlets. I have been hearing of Liqui Moly but the guy marketing it does not know what he is marketing. I was at Olowu market in Ikeja and I say ADLER 5w20 and they will put some cars approval on it. Mercedes was 229.1 while the current is 229.5. That was how Forte added GM diesel as approved to use their SYNTH 10000. I asked the Manager why should the oil be suitable for Diesel cars and not gasoline cars? Have you seen GM brands that are diesel powered to the point that an oil will be suitable for it. Maybe it is suitable for Opel diesel cars.

Shalomc:
We are not recommending 20W 50. 50 grade oil might be too thick. Like I said 20W, 5W 10W are all the same in our climate... Then follow your manufacturers recommended grade for the second digits.... using the recommended API. I don't trust oando though. What did you do to get your range back to shape? This thread is to learn I believe.

The Range Sport is dead, so also with over 10 owners that followed my advice on using the Oando synthetic because of my experience with the drums. We wanted to sue them as a class action because their quality assurance was not up to date. They were at my office on two occasions looking for oil samples. Their oil was drying up every week and you had to be topping regularly even when I dont get to 100kms in one week. There was another time when a Sport was being towed into the workshop and a Representative of Eterna Oil was in the workshop. That Range knocked its engine from using Castrol edge 5w40. All these oil guys do is to pretend that maybe you bought adulterated oil and not their original oils. Imagine that Oando was boasting that Dexron 11 is their fastest selling atf. Dexron 11D cannot even work on Toyota tiny light or Honda baby boy but in 2016, it was their fastest selling fluid. Total has Dexron 6 in France but we are still using dexron 11d in 2018. Mobil has the famous 3309 ATF but we have Dexron 11e here. It is a policy to destroy our cars and then allow more to be shipped into the country. Toyota from 2010 says 0w20. There is even no donut sign because the 0w20 is unique. Go to the Auto fair starting tomorrow and you will see the oils that will be displayed. They claimed the 20w50 is the best selling oil in Nigeria but you will be shocked at the API specification. Even Sahara group produces sae 40 and API Sl 20w50 too

dollarnaira:
As u can see

From the chart, Standards Organisation of Nigeria allows the production of oil with the classification of API SD. SAE 40 is API SE sold locally by all oil marketers. API SF and SG is still being sold by Mobil, Forte Oil and Seahorse. There is one thing you guys should understand. Before Oando started selling their synthetic oils in gallons, I was one of the few to have bought the oil in drums. Not one drum, but 5 drums. I used all to service my customers cars in Benin, Abuja and Lagos. That oil was API SN 5w40. No noise, no shortage, but pure performance. Before then, I used Oando SM 20w50 in 2013 on my range Rover Sport. The oil was too thick for the car, that from Lagos to Abuja, it took me one week to get there. I lost my catalyst, the plugs were all soaked the nozzles were blocked, the radiator was vibrating and I lost the transmission fluid and in Lokoja, the fan belt gave way. That was when Oando staff now brought to my notice, that they have synthetic oil and after my verdict, they launched the oil in gallon but I recall that it was withdrawn from the market on many occasions before they finally stabilized with the production of the oil. Our dispute led them to take samples of the oil to SGS Paris for analysis and they now forwarded the report to me. So the problem right now is not the 20w50 but the quality. Going through Total oil website, I discovered that the oils being sold in France does not exist here in Nigeria. Peugeot has never recommended 20w50 for their cars of the 2000s. Peugeot 508 cannot use Q9000 and therefore the owners are at a crossroad. It was someone that now clarified that Motorists should use Mobil 1 5w30 ESP for the current models of peugeot but on the car, the sticker is still recommending Total activa and this is a car that is assembled in Nigeria. If 20w50 is ideal for our modern cars, Kaduna PAN would not recommend 5w30. Someone used Cepsa 20w50 API SN on his range rover and his car started misbehaving and soaking plugs. Can you buy a 17m car and use a 4k oil? That is the problem I am facing with some companies who bring their Toyotas for service to us. Why will your price be higher that Elizade? They forgot the reason why they brought the car to us, the engine vibrates and consume a lot of fuel and there is sludge. Toyota Hiace requires 5w30 but people use 20w50 and they dont understand what is going on. It is an awareness thread and not a manufacturer's thread. Even the manual is not followed, is it this thread that you will listen to? I am a practitioner till date and so I talk from experience. We just ordered 12 gallons of Castrol Extended Performance for my Range Rover Club Members because the situation on ground is threatening the well being of the brand.

Shalomc:
Toyota has always included the 20W-50 oil grade in its manual. That being said... The API Ilsac acea characteristics are of more importance than the first number on the multiverse oils. It is irrelevant to use 0W, 5W, here.... Given the temperature specs which never falls below 22°c most of the time in subsaharan Africa we might as well use the 15W, 20W, or 25W specs. While the second digits.... We are okay with 30, 40, and sometimes 50 grade oils. Now what I expect that you should be concerned about is the API ACEA and ILSAC characteristics of the oils on the Nigerian market. This where the evils are being implemented on the poor Nigerian consumers!

This morning there's dew everywhere but the weather temperature is 24°c!!! So bro kindly stop with the funny information and hold the aspects that are necessary.

hmmm. When you see api sl being used on a toyota and you see api sh being sold in the country, even api sf sold as 20w50 and a lot of people are using it on cars that require api sn, what will you do? Have you seen any Api sn sold locally? The highest is Sm in 20w50 and that is Oando and MRS. What is the oil used in Dubai? Api sf or sg? Are they not even hotter than Nigeria?

Continue using the mineral oil. I dont know why you are pained. If Toyota recommends 20w50 for hot weather, go ahead and use it but if you look at the chart again, you will understand. When you talk of the first charts you posted earlier, you will find out that you dont even understand what you posted. On that chart, sae 40 was recommended, 5w20 was for colder climates only and you said that it was recent? The second charts you posted now shows that 5w20 is now an all weather oil. Everyone talk about our hot weather and thereforr are using mineral oil. The donut sign on the oil cap, does it apply to 20w50? The gasoline engines, the energy.conserving and the api sn? You guys are the reason why Nigerian used cars are scraps because of the poor maintenance culture. Anyone buying a naija used car always go through pains restoring the car back to normal.

Shalomc:
Sorry sir. My car has no sludge. And this is not the first time I am using diesel/petrol engine oil. It works fine all the time.

So why are you looking for the oil that you have used before?