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ironheart:
bros look at the chart and stop misinforming people. 20w50 can be used from a temperature range of -7'C to as high as it gets. Thats a 2012 car, made 6yrs ago. I did not print this manual myself.

Maybe you are trying to console yourself that you are using 20w50. I am not begging you to buy oil from me. Why does the US spec put 0w20 on their oil cover, gasoline engines, energy conserving and the SA spec does not put it there? You are looking at the chart from the top instead of the bottom. 0w20, 5w20 and 5w30 all covers minus to plus degrees and if you feel that you know better than the manufacturer, good luck to you. How many brand new Toyotas bought locally in 2012 that are still good looking, engine wise? You will see a 2006 Toyota imported from the US and it will look brand new than the brand new bought here.

Shalomc:
I am surprised at a lot of information on this thread. The relevant issues here should be the API classification. In fact the first digits of the multigrade oils are absolutely irrelevant to our climate.
We should fight the evil oil Dealers still selling API SA, SB, SC, SD, SE, SF SG, and SH in Nigeria

All obsolete oils. SA 1930
SB 1951
SC 1967
SD 1971
SE 1979
SF 1988
SG 1993
SH 1996
UNLESS YOUR CARS CORRESPOND WITH THE STATED YEARS.

Good to know that you know much about oil. API SD is the minimum oil benchmark that SON allows to be produced locally or even import. Oando, Mobil, Forte, Total and others are still producing these oils in 20w50 classifications and many happy buyers are buying. Imagine SON allowing oils made for 1971 engines to be used in 2018.
As for your Benz, when you try that diesel oil, please bring the car to us to help you demolish it. That car has 12 plugs and as we speak, the sludge inside the engine can block pen cinema drainage. First flush the engine and look for Mobil 1 USA. There is nowhere you can find API SJ, so I will advise that you settle for the API SN. They are backward compatible. Everyone has moved forward, it is only in Nigeria that oil marketers are producing oil for their grandfathers cars of yore.

I can respond well now. The previous oil chart you posted, showed that the chart was for older cars wey back the 90s while the current chart is for modern cars. If api sf was valid at the time of the old chart, then it is very obvious that it was old. From the new chart, you can see the oil sequence. 0w20, 5w20 and 5w30 are suitable for all weather. All weather and then the last on the list is the 20w50 in case you happen to find yourself in the desert. From the same chart, you can see that the fuel recommended is premium unleaded fuel for toyota cars, the type recommended for bmw and audi and acura etc. Now we have a problem. If you use the 20w50 oil and you use regular fuel, on a car that the manufacturer has recommended otherwise, what will be the outcome? The two issues that torment our vehicles in this country is oil and fuel and it is a sad reminder that we are enjoying this ignorance.

ironheart:
that chart is in the owner manual of a 2012 avensis..

The chart for 2012 avensis without the 0w20? That is good to know that as at 2012, we had toyota cars that were using 5w20 as the recommended oils

dumo1:
@sooperrescue I was thinking since our fuel octane rating here in Nigeria isn't really good for these Range Rivers without the use of octane boosters, isn't it advisable to do a MCG or LPG conversion kit on the Range Rover vehicles?

It wont work. I had been observing the taxis whenever I am in Benin because almost all painted taxis run on lpg there. For the most recent Audi 80 with fuel injectors, it was not successful as they claim that it jerks all the time. But nearly all cars run on premium fuel nowadays including Toyota cars. The bottom line is to use the right oil and get octane boosters

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TheCar:
Just follow what’s written in your car manual, if you don’t have any, simply Google “Car Make, Model and Year - Car Manual” e.g. “Toyota Camry 2013 Car Manual” and used what your car manufacturer specify as Engine Oil Grade. It is that simple.

Also, if your car manufacturer says use 0w-20 and you think 20w-50 is the best Engine Oil for your car, that’s also a good and wise decision, since it’s your car, your money and your decision.

The op that start the thread is yet to advertise anything and even if he does, you make the final decision since it’s your money and your car.

Whether Used or Brand New Car, just follow your car manufacturer specifications.

Very Simple and Straight Forward.

You have summarised the whole matter. Thank you very much. I have no interest in any particular oil. If the motorists like, let them use groundnut oil but in the end, someone else will buy the crap and go through pains trying to fix what the previous owner has destroyed. That is the reason for this thread. You cannot buy a car for 1m and then use 4k oil, then good luck. If the manufacturer tells you to use a particular oil and your mechanic tells you to use another for our hot weather, goodluck. In all their manuals, they always recommend an oil grade for all weather.

dollarnaira:
Bros are u saying all sae 20w50 are bad irrespective of their company?Not all cars carry sae type on their engine oil cap.Hence,see owners manual will b d next option.A certain car manual recommended Sae 5w30 but said frantically that if sae 5w30 is not available then one can choose from d available list which included Sae 20w50.Pls dont label ppu ignorant just like that just bc they use oil with not too old technology.Your reasoning is like telling ppu to discard their old phones just bc d latest android version is 8.1 while those using android 4.4 are label ignorant.Most of us in Nigeria still drive tokunbo cars bro.Some as old as 1993 to 2000 editions of cars.And they all have stated oil that still work.The most current Api is SN have it in mind too that 2nd current is Sl which is where some sae 20w50 belong.

You are correct but if your phone has a 4g network and you decide to use 2g, what will you get? That is the same with oils. All toyotas, kia, and hondas sold brand new in the country does not carry the oil specification sign on the cap. That is the begining of deceit. Meanwhile, there are too many info on the US spec oil cover telling first that it must be gasoline engines only, must be 5w30, the Api specification is listed there and then you get energy conserving. So the oil must not be diesel and gasoline like mobil 1 from Egypt, must be the api specified and the oil it has been tested to use.

Good. Send me a hard copy

Shalomc:
Are you condemning the world famous 20W-50 oil grade?

I fit? It is Nigeria's famous oil used by ignorant folks and made popular by stingy motorists. I have never seen any car that wrote 20w50 oil on the oil cap. It is only the cars sold by local dealerships that sells cars with no information on the cover cap except see owners manual. And there is no local oil company that is even producing 20w50 Api SN. Api SN was introduced in 2010 and 8yrs down the line, no SN. The whole blame goes to SON and the Nigerian motorists that accepts such oils.

pannyman:
How did you reach this conclusion? Please explain.

In my years as a lube bay operator with Total, cars that uses the mineral oils are given a 3000 miles or 3months sticker and because the oil is not meant for these cars, they are at risk of sludge because the oil cannot protect the engine any further. On some oils, it turns to gel within two months and you lose protection. In this case, the oil is supposed to be changed on the 4th of May. Please use the correct oil for your car. You dont know the damages these oils cause to vehicles.

LeJeun3:


When fitting back the back axle, I am 85% sure exhaust is touching the body of the car.

Carry the motor come na....

Na range rover you dey call motor? Be kiaful o

Why una still dey this matter. Is it not a safetrip he just had with the car? This issue is a clarion call to all those who misuse their cars to change their style and maintain their vehicles properly so that the next buyer will not cry over the wahala wey he buy

Anything after 5th will result to sludge

dumo1:
Oga sooperrescue your help is needed urgently here.

I dey here o. The guy was on my thread and I have asked him some questions which he has not responded to.

What did they do at the back? Is it Range Rover Sport or Range Rover? What is bouncing? Is it the air suspension or the tyres? Get in touch

mayor2013:
You don dey fat too much wey you no fit enter enter under motor again

Fat ke, that is anger management. I will call Gazzuzz later because he should be a leader in solving problems as per Japs. Like someone stated sometime ago, it is because of guys on cartalk that people are bringing all kind of cars into the country because they know that the indys have improved. Imagine recently, I was asked if I can fix Lamborghini. I asked the man if he has asked me whether I have seen Lamborghini before? I have not seen one and so how can I fix what I have not seen talkless to sit down inside and to move the car go front.

luvinhubby:
The only low point i know is the expensive nature of the engine coupled with the fact that it does not tolerate blocked catalysts.

Make I join una this morning. In all these complaints about the V6, what oil are these owners using? I used to fix Honda cars in Abuja and even though we were using TOTAL Q9000 on them then, there was really no issue with that car. When you guys say, engine is expensive, how much were you expecting it to be sold? Gazzuzz, if you can say that about the evil spirit, then we get problem o because by now, you should have found a solution to these problems. Those complaints from the US are from those that use the dealership. We all know how Honda used to tell us that they dont have the software for US spec cars until guys like you folks started giving them a run for their lies and you will now see Honda Place fixing Acura. In America, they dont have guys like luvinhubby, gazzuzz etc that have excelled against all odds and yet this dem say talk is upsetting.
Let me go jog as una don provoke me this morning

dru23:
So how much does the castrol extended castrol 5quarts go for

It depends on the source. On my whatapps forum, someone has volunteered to sell at N25k for the Castrol edge 5w30 and 5w20 extended performance and many have shown interest and we are all buying 4 gallons each to last a year. But a source in Lekki sells for 30-35k because, according to him, the duty for the oil is very high when containerised. Using extended performance will protect the engine not to the 15k miles range but at least the 6000 miles will be in order.

dumo1:
Out of curiosity so Coscharis as a whole conglomerate cannot do partnership with these lubricant companies and ship and market these oils into the country at a discount for use on these vehicles? They decided to go for Mobil 1 which is not suitable for the brand. I reserve my comment.

As at 2005, and till date, they were the importers of Abro ATF type A into the country. They denied that they use such oils in their workshops and we went to their warehouse down their lane where we saw the abro but I was thinking that they will show me the one that they are using on their current cars but they never did. I was even taken to their workshop and I was awed because everywhere was clean unlike mine and many others fixing the brand.They complained of sludge in the BMW 7 series but none on the 5 and 3 series using Mobil 1. How well have these cars fared on our roads and where are they now is another story. Is there anyone that bought his Range Rover from Coscharis since 2005 and the car is still on the road? Tell us your experience. Lets hear from you in order for our forum members to learn more and make informed choices of either buying a new Range Rover from Coscharis or buying used from the US. The market source of the Range Rovers from Coscharis is unknown, their parts especially the amplifier, you can never get it from the internet either on Ebay, Carid, Amazon or even British Atlantic. They are the only one that can source for the parts for you. But they sell Abro batteries in their garages of which I am yet to determine if their batteries have expired or not. Someone once told me that all the Castrol that he imported has been cleared by Coscharis and they were all magnatec and the white GTX, no extended performance of the Castrol.

Timothy3113:
there is no restitution in the new testament,


If God has forgiven you, old things have passed away, if your want to restitute, let your spirit direct you.

1 John 1:8-10
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves
and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he
is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and
purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we
have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his
word is not in us.

Says who? Zaccheus could not see Jesus because he was a short man and so he decided to climb a tree. Jesus came under the tree and called him to come down. His meeting with Jesus made him repent and gave back all he took and added a fifth. Young man, let go of the certificate and go for another exam. 70% of the people who are jobless in the country today are exam cheats. They cheated with the connivance of their parents and when they get the certificates, they will be surprised when the photocopies of their certificates will be used to wrap fried plaintain and groundnuts. That is what it is good for.

Thanks for the offer but please make it the extended performance of Castrol like I told you in another thread. The engine is too expensive to be toyed with low quality oils. The extended performance will do good. There are many owners of BMW and VW and AUDI that will gladly buy from you. Even the new breed Toyotas will also gladly buy from you.

Range rover sport for sale 2008 models 4m each
We can upgrade the interior of your range rover to a new look

Mrdigitech:
Bros, Thanks for checking up on me. I never forget ooh...But as I said I should be back this week. As soon as I'm back I will check my Excel sheet to accurately specify the services he offered and upload some of the receipts in my possession with the names edited...

Instead of enjoying yourself over there, you still dey plan update. Leave matter and bring bobozi come for me and some other guys here wey shame nor let them ask.

The difference is the market it is destined for. Mobil 1 0w40 from Egypt is destined for North Africa while the 0w40 from the US is for cars made for the American market. I once ordered for an ECU of a 2007 Audi A6 from Germany and we were told that we should order from the US as that car was a US spec and the European Ecu will not work. I believe that the oil issue is also the same. Mobil 1 from Egypt is not destined for the same market as the one from the US

makavele:
. . . and no wonder he couldn't sleep

Abi. I dey hear noise for my ear as if na mosquitoes dey do night shift, naim I check wetin dey happen to Dino and come see where una dey call my name.

dumo1:
You have lectured us well. More blessings to you sir.

Thanks bros

Thanks bros.

No wonder I could not sleep well. The octane booster is not made in Nigeria. 90% of this product is made in the US. I was contemplating producing mine in 2009 before I stumbled upon Johnsens and it was cheaper at that time. AMGs and Mseries uses a higher premium fuel different from the regular premium. Hence the need for octane boosters now came up. It is true that the knock sensor will adjust the engine timing but it will result to poor fuel economy and in the long run will damage your engine. The car manufacturers always warn that using low octane fuel will damage your engine. I have an MDX 2011 model that was given to us to transport to Abuja. The gear was defective and the owner commissioned us to change the gear before trucking it to Abuja. Since 2014 till date, the owner has been using octane boosters regularly and he confessed that. that car, apart from servicing, no issue whatsoever. Back to the question. Acura does not recommend premium, they say you must use it only. that means no alternative. The end result has always been numerous, Oxygen sensors, sluggishness, gear box failures and engine gasping for breath. Four years ago, MDX used to be everywhere, where are they now? Coupled with the use of wrong engine oil and fuel, how will they survive the stress in Nigeria? Have you ever seen an MDX on the road cruising like a Range Rover? They move on the road as if they are going to the next street and so they take life easy. Where are the VWs and the Nissans? Who owns an acura that has not changed the gearbox or engine before abandoning it? What is responsible for the sluggishness? Low octane fuel and the wrong oil. My octane booster works and works well. Your MDX is sluggish and consuming fuel and there is no other solution than to boost your fuel or you wait for Dangote to decide when he wants to commission his refinery.

EgunMogaji:
Chineke Odinma

5 US quart is tentatively N20,000 but includes tax and ecological waste fee.

But coupon code Azikwe will get you 10% store wide.

These una cheap prices, make una fear god o.

On Amazon, it is 28$ and that is N10000 plus. The big question is why is Mobil dumping useless oils to us and selling it above the price of the better oils. Mobil 1 5w30 Extended performance is cheaper than Mobil 1 5w30 esp and 0w40 sold here and the quality are miles apart. If the oil is sold at Amazon at that amount, imagine if Mobil ships it directly the way they bring their 0w40 from Egypt, we would have been better off with it.
The Mobil oils in the US and the one sold locally are not the same category. We have 2 choices of oil for our cars using Mobil products. 5w30 and 0w40. Which modern cars request for these oils today? Is it Honda or Toyota of 2010?

GAZZUZZ:
Small boi, can you compete with 13,500 for 5liters?

make una start the oil war. irag and Iran. i dey watch

Jazzlite:
Did you ask if it includes costs of fixing the issues discovered?

Coscharis charges 80k for diagnosis on Range Rovers

LeJeun3:


Air Suspension

Guy, see Gazzuzz don increase his price. Dont increase oil price o. Keep all information confidential.

EgunMogaji:
Serious question.

Apart from the hydraulic suspension on those vehicles that still maintain them, what makes a Range inspection any different?

I think a 60 point inspection is same on all 2 axle vehicles.

Are the rear brakes inboard or outboard?

Revealing these information is a breach of my fundamental human rights. I am claiming the 5th amendment.[

quote author=GAZZUZZ post=67007103]

Uncle you will just be using range rover to bully sombory, can I not Inspect a lexus LX570 2016? [/quote]Bros, sorry. I hate being an oppressor.