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Petrol, registered but it has been sold

mastro:
hmm so let me get this straight,
Customer takes car to mecho, Mecho works on car, charges customer money, car isn't fixed.
Mecho then proceeds t say it's not his fault that car isn't fixed.
I would laugh if it wasn't exactly the problem with most of our mechanics, sooperrescue or whatever you call yourself, by taking the customers money you have a responsibility to deliver a service in this case a fixed car. Ths you haven't done that's the long and short of it.
Based on above I wouldn't give sooperrescue my bicycle to fix, and would advise that everyone on Nairaland steer clear of him.

obviously you did not read well. On handing over the car to him, he discovered that his headlamps are not working well and made the electrician to reverse almost all the job already done because his headlamp is powered by relays and the car fuse box has been bypassed. Unless he has not agreed to be truthful, let him deny that. Cnairo, you can make yourself look stupid by your insults but let a good electrician restore your electronic to its original state. If a speedclock is not working, can gears select? Mr adviser, keep your advice to yourself. I know my works and i know that my God always accept my being. I have nothing more to say. I am unfollowing you all. Thanks

freshvine:
Sir, Apology is not enough! One thing you should understand in business is that the customer is always right and they're the reason you're in business. Create a certified customer and not a disgruntled one.
Call this guy back and help fix his car at little or NO extra cost to him. He'll come back here testifying with satisfaction.
I think I can relate to his predicament. If I take my car in for maintenance, NO auto medics dare tamper with the original specifications of the vehicle. I won't tolerate any bypass I rather buy a replacement for a faulty item. No matter how he try to convince me I'll insist on "carry come" echoed in the local parlance

What do you now do to a car that the original specification has been turned inside out, the speed clock was not working and after fixing all, the client, instead of telling us to find a way to make his headlamps work factory wise, he insisted on using all the relays that were not supported by the car. The customer is always right but his being right is not justifiable. If I had scammed him or had intention of doing so, I would not have given him a replacement car that was even more recent and expensive than his car because he claimed that he will lose money if he is not mobile that night. I am supposed to be the one crying here because I was not paid for the parts that we fixed. If he was not satisfied, he was expected to return the car instead of telling me that the car is not in order, but because he knew that he did not pay for even the electrician work who charged 12k for the job, he came online to complain. Did we tell him that we changed spark plug and it was not so, or the trans and engine oils, or the prnd and the speed clock is not working? He can also acknowledge that the car without a good engine seat was no longer vibrating and yet he claimed that it was worse. I drove the car home with practically no fuel because I thought that the guage was faulty and it did not stop on the way, it was when he wanted to leave that he called me and told me that the fuel gauge is working and there was no fuel, we gave him four litres of fuel to enable him drive to the petrol station and buy fuel.

XX01:
I have no problem if they delete it because it is offtopic, why don't they delete the others that are praising him to the highest heaven. I hardly visit the auto or car talk section so i was easily beguiled by all the wonderful testimonies. I hardly post on Nairaland except i have an issue because i don't like trouble. The guy was all so nice to me not knowing he was digging a knife deep into my back.
When i took my car to Honda Place, i could not believe what they said they had to fix. I was ready to fight them because i believed so much that he had done his work. My thoughts were that my driver had damaged something. Only for them to bill me for everything he said he had fixed and more.
I now know better than to believe all these "fantastic" ways people hype themselves online. Make i go search for PTA. Thread unfollowed.

Madam, dont believe what you are told at the dealerships. They are not reliable . I once had an issue with a customer who owns a range rover 05. We towed the car from Asaba because the gear was gone. He did not tell us that he dragged the car from warri to asaba instead of carrying the car by truck. After fixing the gear abd other issues, the auxiliary was not ok and I told him that it was not included in the bill. The young man got angry and drove the car to Coscharis who checked the car and gave him a bill of 1,4m to fix the job we asked him to pay 80k extra for. In the end, he begged us to go and pick up the car from Coscharis. They demanded for 80k for diagnostics. We finally took the car and drove it to warri and the auxiliary was now ok. 1.4m to repair a car he wanted to sell for N1.5m. We are still the best no matter how aggrieved a client will be, Nissparts, Gazzuz and other high end mechs are the reason why many Nigerians will buy a car that does not have a franchised dealer in the country because they know that there are guys out there who have invested in upgrading their skills. There used to be a time when these garages will refuse to repair american specs of cars and the owners were confused. Now you can bring in any car in the world because we are here to put your most expensive mobile investment on the road at all times.

Chei, for hyundai matter. I will Apologise to Emeka My Eminent and esteemed client. I did not scam you and i will never do that. Maybe you were used to kazeem but my labour charge is moderate and like you stated, i am old with grey hair but Fashola is older than me and his grey hair is not for old age. Cnairo, i am sorry but i wont ask for you to bring the car back. Let an electrician make your car work without improvised relays and your fuse box to be controlling your car electronics. Then you will enjoy the car. All the gurus, thanks for your time. I appreciate all of you. One free octane booster. Merci a tous

Everyone has written what is on their mind and I appreciate all of you. The switches that connects the gear inside the engine has Sev :oen wires all leading to the engine is the can network which was not communicating. His gear selector on the dashboard shows only reverse. That was rectified. After the whole job was done, i took the car home and brought it back the next day. It was working fine. I noticed his fuel guage was low and that it takes an hour before the temperature guage will get near middle. I called him and asked if the guage is working and he said yes and that why is the guage taking that long to get to the normal operating level, he told me that the guage used to get to the level but it will overheat and that it was part of the reason he is paying us to fix the car. I also noticed that it was only one headlight that worked that night and he said both headlamps are in order before he brought it. On the day he was to puck up the car, he made my electriciaN to undo all the job he did on the car because the headlamps and fog lamps had a special relay to power them. When they were done, he left with the car. I believe that in making the rewire to let the lights work as it used to, instead of the way we redesigned it, it made the gear to relaspe. If i had deceived him, i would have told him that we need a new gear and leave his old gear without doing anything. I dont despise any car, when he came and saw all the range rovers in the workshop, he regretted that he just sold the his range rover because of the high maintenance cost. If I like doing big cars, i wont even tell him to come. Anyone from nairaland knows that they get high premium service whenever they visit my shop because of my respect for the forum. The electrician that drove the car confirmed that the Gear was selecting, i took it home and it was selecting and i heard noise in the exhaust and when he came for the car, i told him that the car was with the panel beater who later came back that there was no catalyst converter in the exhaust and he comfirmed it. The electrician told me in his presence that there was no thermostat in the engine, that is why the temperature is permanently below operating temperature. He made us undo most of the electronics on the day he took the car and he cannot now come here and cry wolf. All these incidents are not in his report. He was there when they brought the plugs and he saw it. He can also attest that his gear selector is showing the prnd on his dashboard. I was the one that begged him to use his mechanic to fix the engine seat and get the air intake hose as i dont have the means of looking for parts that are difficult to find. When he said he does not want castrol oil, we drained it and put mobil for him. I know how much i buy the castrol in 1 litre can and the seller asks for his money as soon as it is supplied. He was also there. Were was he scammed or what feeling is he getting if he was told that we changed parts which were not changed.

When I said my boys will collect the money from him, i meant that when he buys a better car, one of my boys might in the future become his mechanic and they will collect that money. It is glad to know that you are a heart reader to know which one is evil or good. If the gear is bad, how come the car can get to 100 kms with the rpm on 3000? My auto business is in safe hands and i have thousands of nairalanders whom i have not met that i have been doing business with. And they are reading this topic and wondering if emeka is on oshogbo weed.

Siena:
[color=Blue]Sooper, good to her from you.
The one aspect I find impossible to justify is the price for 5 litres of oil. N21,500 is outrageous whichever way you look at it. I've seen pints blood that cost less.
What grade and brand was that oil? Just so I know to avoid it, and leave it on the shelf in my local shop.[/color]

Good evening Siena, that quote was an error and it was rectified when he pointed it to us. We used Castrol 5w30 oil for his car

So he brought the car to me and we started analyzing the problems with the car. The transmission fluid was grey in colour, completely burnt, the gear selector on the dashboard does not show except on reverse, the car had four different spark plugs, the air intake hose was torn and an adhesive tape was used to wrap it up, the engine oil chamber was full of sludge, the air filter was clogged, the engine seat was completely unseated that if you select reverse on that Santa Fe, it will feel like it is going to explode, the car has an okada pressing horn instead of the one designed by Hyundai, the gear electronics were muddled up together and the engine and gear were not in its normal state. When I saw the car, I gave it to my technician to test drive and he said we need to change the starter switch to make the gear to identify the gears it selects. Emeka Nwokolo was in a hurry to take the car back that day and I was all day contemplating on what to do, where we will get the parts because the Santa Fe parts are not common. I called all known suppliers for NGK PFR5N spark plugs and there was a guy called Bisi in Agindingbi who told me that there is someone who will get it for me for 10000 for 4 and 15k for 6 as the car is a V6. Emeka agreed to the price and said that we should go ahead. That was the second day. He only made a deposit of N10,000 on that first day. The second day, we told him that his car will not be ready as the electrician has not even started the work. He cried out that he will lose a million naira if he does not go home with that car that night. So from the cars in my workshop, I told him to try and drive the commander and see if it will be convenient for him so that he can take it home and not lose the one million that he will make that night. I jokingly told him that I have 50k inside the n1m that he will make that night. He drove the car out, went and bought fuel and came back and told us that he can manage it. The guy that supplies us transmission parts gave us the starting switch and two other switches with ten wires each. The one in the car has been joined left to right and it was an eyesore. We paid 30,000 for those items and we changed the smelly transmission fluid using our Pureguard which is compatible with SP 111. We used 5 litres.
The electrician that worked on the car did not understand the mess that was created in the car and in trying to put them right, discovered that the fuel was pouring into the engine. The cold start switch was not even connected on the car. I now advised him to use good synthetic oil on his car or we can use Mobil HXP. He initially gave us the go ahead and we used Castrol 5 w 30 in the car which he later denied and we had to drain the oil out and went to buy Mobil for him. He wanted to see the switches that we bought and I told him that if I remove the battery and bring out the switches, he will be responsible for the result. He insisted and I unplugged the switch for him to see and he then agreed to pay for the switches. This happened after we have been calling him to come and pick up his car. Someone who was anxious to use his car failed to come and pick it until the 4th day when he came with the determination to question my bill. Although we made an error in the bill adding an extra 3500 to the oil bill, Emeka Nwokolo said he had the intention of paying 7k for Labour, he does not need the synthetic Castrol oil, and that we should pour it out, which we did and bought him Mobil with our money. In order not to be provoked, I told him that whatever he want to pay, he should give them to my boys because I will never labour for 7k. Initially he agreed to pay for the switches and was about paying with the POS for 17k. I told my Secretary to follow him to the bank and collect the 17k. On getting there, he changed his mind and said that he will pay only 5k for the Mobil oil. I told my Secretary to let him go with the money as I am no longer interested in what he is up to. He dropped my Secretary and left. In all , he paid 60,000, the spark plugs, the switches, the starting switch, the transmission fluid SP111, 5 litres, the 5 litres Castrol oil, the Mobil HXP, the Air filter and the relays and wiring, one nozzle, and the countless phone calls to traders in the market and transportation to the market. And HE, Emeka Joseph Nwokolo is claiming here on Nairaland that he was scammed. Be the Judge

From the man that was scammed.
Hello,

I need help with my Hyundai Santa Fe 2002 v6 2.7 L. I'll try to give as much detailed explanation of the problem as possible.

Being my first car, I treat it like a baby. I service it every 2 months (I change oil and oil filter). I run to Baba Saheed (my own Kazeem) anytime I hear a strange sound or the movement doesn't feel right. I must confess that beyond the regular servicing, I didn't know much about my car till 3 weeks ago when my car started acting funny.

The problem is that when I start the car cold, it moves very smoothly without problems, but If I have a reason to stop or slow down after about 30 minutes (or the car heats up), it becomes difficult to accelerate. The best way to explain this is that it feels as if I'm trying to move a stationary manual transmission with gear 3 instead of gear 1. When the car picks up speed, it becomes a beast, everything returns to normal; but problem starts again if I have cause to slow down. I sometimes perceive the smell of oil when this happens, but don't know which oil that is. Also, if I happen to drive into a car wash, and I need to climb the elevated washing platform so that they can wash the under properly, the car doesn't have enough power to climb the raised platform. I was in Abeokuta last week, and drove down a sloppy street. When it was time to come out, the car didn't have enough power to drive up the slope again (which was very embarrassing), I had to drive out of the street with reverse (the reverse has full power, if not too much power sef - it can climb anything).

I usually get home very late, so by the time I drive to Baba Saheed the next morning, my car is acting all nice and driving smoothly, so it becomes difficult for him to fully grasp what I'm trying to explain. As a novice, I've spent almost 70k in 2 weeks, and it's pretty obvious the problem hasn't even been touched. I've changed Air Flow Meter, Spark Plugs, Injector Mouth, and Coil just to name a few.

Frustrated, I took to google few days ago, and I almost hid my head in shame when I realized all the basic things I never knew and/or never paid attention to. I'm glad I did cos in few days I can say I've learnt so much. The Hyundai forums have been very helpful also, but I can say I've been able to narrow down the problem to transmission (or so I think).

Before spending another dime on the car (or taking it to Hyundai, which is what I intend doing next), I want to hear from all the car gurus in the house for suggestions based on what I've described above.

NB: My gear oil is dark brownish red in colour, and I can't describe the smell jare. I was advised in the Hyundai forum to drain the gear oil and replace with SP III, Where can I get original SP III in Lagos?
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Matic j or pureguard dexron6

Sorry to say this, the manufacturer has forgotten the bora and can't remember what they did, please be observant, how many bora cars are still on the road? They are all parked somewhere.

Chief, i have a 2013 but upgraded to 2014 with the introduction lights for sale. Pictures enclosed

What about range rover engines and cleaning tools? Is it included?

Op, just pay us only 15k instead of 50k and we go use our flatbed truck carry am comot. You will do your daddy a big favour say him good pikin use flatbed truck instead of those wakapass wooden truck carry the car to its final destination

Dw 1 or pureguard dexron vi

There are some dexron 3 that claims to be atf z1 compatible but the nigerian economy is not too bouyant for trial and errors. And many atf being sold in the market are not what they claim to be and therefore will not be able to vouch for any atf that I have not tried or used in my garage

I have heard too but you can use Pureguard Dexron vi. We are the one that market the oil.

No, Mobil atf is dexron 2 and it has its limits. Use dw 1 for your Honda cars

You are welcome. 8 litres please

Seen, that's d 123 shift. Use Mobil atf. It will work well

Is your gear the d+ shift? I know oando is scarce but let me know your gear type first

Let him drain the oil and use oando dexron3

Dexron 111, is ur ml fittef with d plus gear

We have already been forgiven. My driver was agonized for over a week lamenting over the matter. Na the owner want it done. They even accompanied them there and recorded the event. Na only the rims the owner took away.

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Some Engine Oils Currently on the Shelves Can Harm Your Engine - Read the Lables!

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The current API Service Classification is SN

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Watch for the "W"

Whereas the labeling on the bottle of engine oil may suggest the product is a 5W-30, note, if there is no "W" between the 5 and the 30 it may not be a 5W-30. As an example, a SAE 5-30 is not the same as an SAE 5W-30.

The next 'code" to look for is the API Service Classification. Although it might appear complicated to understand at the start, it is really a simple system to get your arms around. Think of it this way, when cars were first built, the oil they required needed an API SA Service Classification. From there, it moved to SB, SC, SD, and so on (skipping only SI and SK). The current API Service Classification is SN.

So if you buy an engine oil meeting only API SA, it's an engine oil formulated for use in vehicles built in the 1920s. And SA is not hard to find mixed in with SM on the shelves at c-stores and others. Furthermore, it's also not hard to find SF, SJ and other API Service Categories on the shelves. Also, don't let price guide you. Engine oils with a Service Classification prior to SN (including SA) are often priced close to that of API SN.

The service rating of passenger car and commercial automotive motor oils is classified by the American Petroleum Institute (API). The program certifies that an oil meets certain Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) quality and performance standards. The service rating is shown in the API "Service Symbol Donut" on the product label.

The labels include two important pieces of information to determine if an engine oil is appropriate for use in your vehicle. The first piece of information speaks to viscosity grade. The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) defines a numerical system for grading motor oils according to viscosity. The suffixes (0, 5, 10, 15 and 25) followed by the letter W designate the engine oil's "winter" grade.

Look to your owner's manual. It specifies the viscosity grade required for your car's engine. Today, the most common grades are 5W-30 and 10W-30.



Watch for the "W"

Whereas the labeling on the bottle of engine oil may suggest the product is a 10W-30, note, if there is no "W" between the 10 and the 30 it may not be a 10W-30. As an example, a SAE 10-30 is not the same as an SAE 10W30.

The next 'code" to look for is the API Service Classification. Although it might appear complicated to understand at the start, it is really a simple system to get your arms around. Think of it this way, when cars were first built, the oil they required needed an API SA Service Classification. From there, it moved to SB, SC, SD, and so on (skipping only SI). The current API Service Classification is SM.

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Always consult your vehicle owner's manual to determine what motor oil you should use, and READ THE LABELS ON THE OIL YOU BUY.



American Petroleum Institute
Gasoline Engine Oil Service Classifications
Category Status Service
SN Current Introduced in October 2010 for 2011 and older vehicles, designed to provide improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons, more stringent sludge control, and seal compatibility. API SN with Resource
Conserving matches ILSAC GF-5 by combining API SN performance with improved fuel economy, turbocharger protection, emission control system compatibility, and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing
fuels up to E85.
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SL Current For 2004 and older automotive engines.
SJ Current For 2001 and older automotive engines.
SH Obsolete
SG Obsolete
SF Obsolete
SE Obsolete CAUTION - Not suitable for use in gasoline-powered automobile engines built after 1979.
SD Obsolete CAUTION - Not suitable for use in gasoline-powered automobile engines built after 1971. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.
SC Obsolete CAUTION - Not suitable for use in gasoline-powered automobile engines built after 1967. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.
SB Obsolete CAUTION - Not suitable for use in gasoline-powered automobile engines built after 1951. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.
SA Obsolete CAUTION - Not suitable for use in gasoline-powered automobile engines built after 1930. Use in more modern engines may cause unsatisfactory performance or equipment harm.

Chief, Don't go there..right hand conversion?

I have fixed the vogue and an x6 and currently on a tdv6. The def is not available in the country, so you will have to Import it. You cannot drive the diesel if there is no def in the range