₦airaland Forum

larride:
Since SAF retired, how many club has won the league?

Let me help you:

Chelsea - 2
City - 3
Leicester - 1
Man Utd - 0
Liverpool - 0

If Chelsea did not at least put up a fight, City could have won it 5 times in 6.

See how it sounds?

Even the 9 seasons after Mourinho came before Fergie retired. He won 5 titles, lost 2 on the final days( one on one goal difference and another by a single point). That's was a period when English team were at their strongest. But he didn't face any competition....LMFAO.

nihilistjnr:
Who was the competition between 1992 and 2004?

Stop trying to be mischievous Fergie didn't retire in 2004 but I will still engage you.

He competed against "Moneybag" Blackburn,Keegan Newcastle and Wenger for 6 years (98-04), before Mourinho arrived.

nihilistjnr:
Well, make I no lie the man was good, and to be honest looking at some of the players that won trophies under him - Wes brown, John O'Shea, Cleverly, Anderson - the man Sabi work small.

But you are absolutely right, the playing field in those days no level at all.

Manyoo were often the highest spenders.

They had the best players

They had all the referees- it was almost impossible for away teams to get a penalty at old trafford, even if the foul involved firearms, and Manyoo dey unlimited extra time to play if they were losing

The competition was more or less absent

Now wey all man do tear eye, day come break and everywhere burst, Ferguson japa straight to boardroom

This guy is always ignorant yet won't shut the feck up

A40:
Klopp acquired higher than the highest points total than all of Fergie's title wins in one season. Let that sink in. Far fetched I know but if Fergie had to face any of last season's Liverpool, Man City 18/19 or 17/18 every year he would have 0 League titles

Secondly Ferguson is not surviving losing his best players every blessed season so the premise of Liverpool crashing and burning because of what happened with Dortmund is erroneous. No Klopp team sufficiently armed financially will fail to compete

Finally I was not posting a comparison just bringing some perspective

PS: I don't agree with any list that claims Fergie is the greatest manager

Using point tally is flawed. They were not competeting against each other. Even at that
In 2012-13 season we had 77 points in 30 games before getting complacent and that was with players like Cleverley, Welbeck, past it Rio, Vidic, Evra in the side. One thing you have got to realize is that when Jose came and took the Premier league by storm, Fergie waited patiently and developed a team that eventually upended them. There is nothing to suggest that Fergie wouldn't have been able to do the same now to take on Pep. There was never a challenge that he didn't rise to
This isn't the first time the scope of the premier league has changed. By the was his United team of 2007/2008 is the best in this premier league era.

raumdeuter:
It helps if your only rival for most of the time is Arsenal led by Wenger

The disrespect Wenger gets is amazing. people tend to forget how good his Arsenal team was in the late 90's and early 2000's..

Kimbeast:
Same fate will happen to his Liverpool side when this curent team runs it's course. It will crash and crumble like it did in Germany.

Some managers can be very good at building a team and having a good 2, 3 and maybe 4 years max but rebuilding and keeping the players motivated is the true mark of a great manager. That's why Fergie Is tha Boss.

raumdeuter:
Sacking Mourinho was the right move, appointing OGS was the wrong move

My friend a liverpool fan was praying that Man Utd appoints OGS and overlook Poch because we all knew OGS will likely flop and that will be about 2 seasons lost

OGS had the initial bounce but didn't have a game plan when he started.

Even when Pep and Klopp didnt win you could see a pattern. I remember when Pep and Klopp started and were not winning people started saying it won't work in EPL but nateevs or nihilist told them that you better pray it doesnt work and they can leave the league because they can see an ambitious tactical plan based on attacking football
if it worked the whole league wont be the same again
Nowadays your 90plus points most likely won't win the league

I see an attacking coach with a plan in Poch, he hasn't finetuned it like Pep and Klopp but if he gets the right environment and it works it could be the beginning of something great

This is the first unbiased post I have seen from you. Why can't you be this objective all the time?

raumdeuter:
Same way Klopp was at Dortmund last season before joining Liverpool

Exactly. Carbon copy of Klopp last season at Dortmund,they were flirting around the relegation zone in December. The cycle is over for Poch at Spurs. He needs new challenge and Spurs players need new tactical ideas. Time for everyone to move on.

Some of our fans are truly special breed.

Olamyyde:
I personally believe that prime de lima was close to prime messi's level. But messi is the best dribbler of all time and also a better goalscorer than ronaldo was. When you consider vision and passing again you'll understand why messi is the UNDISPUTED GOAT

LMFAO.. .MESSI is not the best at anything of all time. Stop showing your age. Their have been better goalscorers,passers, dribblers,Freekick takers,etc Messi is a generational talent no doubt, best of his Era and posses many skill sets unlike Cristiano which make him a contender for the greatest of all time but that's were it ends.

Messi a better goalscorer lol. De Lima ronaldo already had more than 200 career goals at the age of 20/21. See if not for injuries he would have been the undisputed Greatest of all time but for now that honor belongs to Maradonna.

thorrvik55:
How true is this?


cc: Oasis007 Lana1 and all ye scummies.

Why are you now suddenly interested in our transfer business?

Adiwana:
Ronaldo may have had it all in terms of what was needed from a no 9 but to say Messi and Maradona talent wise don't come close to R9 is being flat out ignorant.What does he have they don't have?? Apart from heading due to limitations in height,what else?? Dribbling,explosive power,touch in front of goal,Ability to score free kicks. They all do this things as no tens,can operate and easily adapt to multiple roles in the team.

We don't have to hate one to love another.

Can you show me were I said the bolded? Talent level Maradonna and De Lima are god tier.

nihilistjnr:
[s] How many people watched Gerd Muller in 1964?

How many people had TVs in the 1960s

The guy finished his career 2 years after the first TV station opened in Nigeria, how will he enter the conversation with Maradona who many people on this very forum watched live?

If i shine torchlight on your left ear, are you sure that your bulging eyebulbs wont light up like halogen lamp? Cos you type like you outsourced your brain functions to a call centre in India [/s]

Alaye Jor Jor Jor. Nobody rates Gerd Muller above Maradonna world wide . Stop dropping trash in my mentions.

ddippset:
Oya sorry.

Alaye Jor Jor Jor. Pull the stats of gerd Muller let's compare with your goats Henry,Messi and the rest .

nihilistjnr:
[s] Says who?

Why are you such a rank idiot?

Muller is a 3 time balon dor podium finalist, winning once.

In his era he was in the GOAT conversation.

Outside of Pele, how many names from the 60s are mentioned in football discussions today?

NTA was founded in 1977. Gerd Muller's career in Europe in 1979. I can bet your dad was one of those guys who used to enter bus to another hood every sunday to go and watch NTA news at 9.

So if we're so far removed from watching Muller in his heyday, how do you expect his name to keep appearing in this era?

If Pele was not a perpetual media presence, his name wont be coming up in the GOAT conversation either.

People watched Maradona in living memory so of course they will talk about him, not a guy who started playing ball the year Nigeria became a republic

spillo, you stupid sha [/s]

Who is this dullard. Nobody places Gerd Muller above Maradonna when talking about GOAT Discussion world wide. You are a disgrace.

ddippset:
lol

I only said "how"

That's all i said.

I think Afrodoc and Spillo are the same person.

Their IQ's match.

I was even trying to be civil with you explaining how in those eras (80's and 90's) it was more difficult for attackers due to many factors involved. The rules then and now were totally different,pitches,sport science,tactics, nutrition even how refs offer more protection now to players etc. Players now are better equipped to look after their diet and body compared to back then. But no all you care about is goals.

ddippset:
The guy that made the comment talked about 700 goals and this one has limited everything to world cup.
Are we sure this brother is okay?
The way he claimed he jumped onto my list without looking at 1 to 9, he has also jumped onto this one without reading properly.

Is that how you jump in and out of your senses?

Oga pull Messi, Maradonna and ronaldo stats let's compare to Gerd Muller since goals are you guys bread and butter. One is shouting 700 goals like it automatically make ronaldo better than de Lima or Maradonna.

spillo1:
That idiot is just shouting 700goals like Messi and ronaldo are the first to reach those figures. Talking of pure stats Gerd Muller shitts on Messi and Maradonna but no one will ever place Muller above Maradonna in anything. Gerd Muller with all his stats is not top5 but mofo is calling ronaldo.... LMFAO.

Did you read my initial post or you just jumped on what tesspidd ignorantly quoted

GrammarNazi1:
Arguments don't work that way. When you make a claim, you have to include at least a reason.

ddippset:
lol How?

Pull up Gerd Muller stats and compare with ronaldo,Messi and Maradonna.

Swissh:
It's always surprising how Gerd Muller's name is overlooked when it comes to GOAT
discussions.

That idiot is just shouting 700goals like Messi and ronaldo are the first to reach those figures. Talking of pure stats Gerd Muller shitts on Messi and Maradonna but no one will ever place Muller above Maradonna in anything. Gerd Muller with all his stats is not top5 but mofo is calling ronaldo.... LMFAO.

ddippset:
It's a taboo to mention arguably the premier league's greatest ever player cannot be mentioned in the top 10

Henry isn't that useless.


Saying Henry cannot be in a top 10 list is nothing but your personal opinion.


I put it to you that you are mad at my number ONE.
Stop covering up with my number 10.

Otherwise carry your keyboard and type your own instead of crying over mine.

Henry won't even make it into top 10 in his position of all time. Stop being naive.

ddippset:
modified
See above

Lol what are you modifying.?

nihilistjnr:
Marginally easier for who?

Why is nobody coming even remotely close to those numbers even in this easier era?

You are so ignorant it's irritating. This era of moi moi defenders. The sheep you Stan is just the modern day gerd muller.

nihilistjnr:
He brought the same wack argument to our thread and was promptly shut down.
Messi and Ronaldo are above any other footballer that ever did it.
We're talking about niggas with 700+ career goals here
That's 35 goals a season for 20 seasons.

Who is this one spewing trash here again.

afrodoc2:
Henry in a GOAT list?
Boko haram generation.

Lol... Leave the guy.

ddippset:
Who is this your guardian angel kimbeast?

At this rate i wouldn't be surprised to see kimbeast on you GOAT list.

Alaye Jor . Focus your energy on telling us how Ronaldinho and Henry are both in your GOAT List lol. See like I told you before you started watching football during the Ronaldinho era.

Kimbeast:
People tend to overstate Ronaldinho abilities because of his uniquely exaggerated futsal-inspired style with tricks and flicks (which often made him look sexier on the ball than others who could do the same in a much more efficient way) and happy-go-lucky nature. Anybody that says he is more talented than fat ronaldo is either clueless or just being mischievous.

I don't know how anyone can say Ronaldinho was more naturally gifted or talented, when the direct comparison is against De Lima fuckinggggg Ronaldo.. Ronaldo had all of Ronaldinho's tricks up his bag, but could pull them off going at the speed of lightening. That's something you can't teach. That guy is obviously trolling....LMFAO.

ddippset:
1. Messi 2. Maradona 3. Cristiano 4. Pele 5. Zidane 6. De Lima 7. Cryuff 8. Ronaldinho 9. Romario 10.Henry
Authentic GOAT list.

Seriously how old are you? Kimbeast come and see GOAT LIST.

ddippset:
1. Messi 2. Maradona 3. Cristiano 4. Pele 5. Zidane 6. De Lima 7. Cryuff 8. Ronaldinho 9. Romario 10.Henry
Authentic GOAT list.

Seriously how old are you? Kimbeast come and see GOAT LIST.

ddippset:
Maybe we need to consult Mr Injuries to find out what De Lima could have become if not for his rude interruption.


1.Goals
2.Heading
3.Freekicks
4.Passes
5.Dribbles
6.Ball control
7.Penalties

Give De Lima 1, 2.
Give Dinho 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

Alaye Jor Jor Jor. You didn't watch De Lima stop trying too hard. De Lima Ronaldo when fit was untouchable. When pre injury R9 had a good side around him he basically won everything, as top scorer.
He won all Copa Americas he started in, destroying the competition. Messi cannot even beat Chile for instance. He reached 2 World Cup finals in a row, that He carried Brazil at the age of 21 in France, if not for the convulsion he could have won 2 for 2 also.
Ronaldo's explosive genius and unparalleled dominance during his peak years won't make me shittt on Ronaldinho who too produced magic on a regular basis and at his best was spectacular but de Lima and Ronaldinho are not mates in anything. Stop being ignorant and take correction. The only O.G better than De lima in talent and ability is Maradonna.

ddippset:
Ronaldinho was 1 million times more talented than De Lima, son.

I repeat 1 million!.


Is this really an argument?

Damn!

How IQ's have depreciated!

LMFAO....Ok Chief.

Kimbeast:
Who said that

One Wikipedia analyst here... LMFAO. Ignorant posters.

Here is Mourinho on De Lima just few days ago.


"However, if we are talking strictly about talent and skill, nobody surpasses Ronaldo [Nazario].
"When he was at Barcelona with Bobby Robson, I realized that he was the best player I'd ever seen take to the field.

"Injuries killed a career that could have been even more incredible, but the talent that that 19-year-old boy had was something incredible.

You know matured men by their opinion.