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Adisaowallla:
After spending close to £600m in the last 5 years on transfers & a wage bill that was the 2nd highest in the world at some point?

Let's cut the niggas some slack here biko

It's fascinating how the board has gradually lowered the standards for this club in the last 6 years and made the current situation acceptable to some fans.

Maybe it's just me but I don't understand how the words in that DM relates to sueing for peace.

Amoto94:
Eruditor you said that Barça went two seasons without a trophy I countered with fact and you're changing mouth to 2years when we both know that football at club level in most leagues is played in overlapping years i.e 2006-7. You don't admit that you're wrong just like the heads of Citadel of Knowledge and Aparisports.
You are all about winning arguments even when your points are flawed.

if you referring to the super cup its a useless trophy. You compete in it for your exploits in the previous seasons. Nobody cares about that trophy only pep fans when they want to use it to hype him shouting six trophies and other bullshit.

KingAzubuike:
Playing for Nigeria wouldn't have been any better. He go regret am here too.

Playing for Nigeria guarantees more playing time,better international career and more chances of winning a trophy.

Kimbeast:
@Roland17 Thoughts on pioli appointment.

Pioli is a shhit coach with a terrible track record.

BikeMan:
See as your existent defence dey wallow in eph12th

Because the season ends in October. Sit down

Chrisus:
Chelsea and Arsenal must go unbeaten for the rest of this season o, ehen!

Leave them. Especially Chelsea with their non existent defense.

Eruditor:
I brought Ballon D'Or to show the impact Pep made to Messi's career.

Infact it was even Messi who gave pep a career. With or without guardiola Messi would have been great. He is a generational talent. Developed yes but not made like Uncle dayo was claiming which is fallacy.

Eruditor:
The same way it relates to structure where only Valdes and Puyol from Rijkaard's team that won the UCL is the reason Pep won his own.

You just wanted to claim Dortmund had no pedigree and deserved to be relegated. Lol

And who said the bolded?



Mr Man Klopp had over achieved with Dortmund that even if he relegates them nobody will dare talk shittt about him. He earned it.

....

Eruditor:
Hahaha

The same way you don't check a lot of things before talking

Dormtund have won a UCL. They did so in 1997.

According to you people. They had a structure which Klopp inherited.

What is good for the goose is good for Uganda?

Lol

You have said rubbish. How does winning Champions league in 97 relate to a team going to a final in 13? Don't be this daft

Eruditor:
Not everybody must win ballon d'or to improve

But it was under him that Ini and Xavi made podium.

Under him that Raheem is now getting to world best convos.

You were the one who brought balon d'or. I told dayo pep developed Messi he said no but rather pep made him. So If pep can make a nobody like Messi to win 4 balon dor why has he not made another player to even win One?

Eruditor:
Want to bet this is confabulatory BS?

Didn't check so I might be wrong but he took them to their first champions final in more than 13yrs. He earned the right to do whatever he likes

Eruditor:
Lol. CR7 was 4-1 down in Ballon D'ors when Pep was there.

Pep left and CR7 equalized.

And how many other players has pep helped to win the balon d'or?

sleekdot:
Sterling that used to be a joke before is now one of the best attackers in Europe

So is he the other Messi pep has created?

Eruditor:
Lol.

But the RM that won after Mou does not prove he was not using them well.

Bayern before 2011..from 2001 1 UCL

From 2012-2019 only 1

But it is Pep's fault. Nobody blames the other coaches that were there between 2001-2011.

But when Pep won 2 with Barca.

It was Rijkaard's credit. Lol

Man took a team club that have been eliminated at the round of 16 for six successive seasons to 3 semi finals but he wasn't using them well LMFAO. PEP INHERITED A BAYERN THAT WENT TO THREE FINALS IN FOUR YEARS AND COULDN'T REACH ANY.

Eruditor:
Your question is stupid.

Let me prove it.

Before Pep what other Barca coach had won 6 titles in one season?

Why 6 years for RM? Why not 10 years?

You have jumped to six trophies again. Uhmmm are we still talking about pep and Mourinho at Bayern/Madrid who what

Eruditor:
Klopp managed Dortmund that he got to a finals with and almost relegated them before he left.

Lol

Klopp took Dortmund to their first champions final in more than 25yrs. He has earned the right to relegate them and no one will say anything.

sleekdot:
List 5 let me list 5 for Pep

What is my business with pep own? You said attackers don't Excel under Mourinho and I want to shame you. Should I name them

sleekdot:
Sterling before Pep was a single digit goals scoring player.

With pep he has established himself as a double-digit goal scoring option

LMFAO So that's the other Messi he has created/made

sleekdot:
bring your facts out and lets see. Pep based on the facts above made the Messi we know today. Changed the Messi 16 goals a season winger to the Messi forward 40goals a season

What other Messi has he created or made? Messi is a generational talent and would have reached those heights with or without Messi. If you had said he helped developed Messi I would have understand but made na man

sleekdot:
We saw Juup and Ancelotti managing that team and they didnt make a final

Thanks to guardiola destroying a perfect Bayern.

sleekdot:
His players said they played their best football under him
His employers said they played some of the best football they have ever seen under him

But it was Guardiola hindering them. How did the same Schweini perform at United immediately after leaving Bayern

Give us another story not that they have peaked to excuse pep champions league failures.

Eruditor:
Mou inherited a team that had 96pts.

When Mou came Barca had only won 2 la ligas not 3


Liar

Mourinho league title was the first for Madrid in 4 seasons. Are you disputing that?

sleekdot:
Player improvement is one of the goals of a coach unlike one Mourinho where attacking players get worse under him

Should I list players who had their best goal output under Mourinho?

Eruditor:
Madrid peaked 2003 and signed poorly to replace those players so they suffered. From 2007, the new rebuilding process took shape and by 2009 that team was reaching its peak. Pellegrini had 96pts with that team. They fired him because they felt he was not fully maximising the peak of the team so they hired Mou. He did only one better by winning league. He did not maximise the team so he too was fired. Then Carlo and Zidane did the rest.

Pep met Barca that had passed their peak. Rijkaard signed aged already established players and they helped him from 2003-2006. By 2007 they lost their way. They let him try but by 2008 it was clear he could not maximise their potential so they fired him. Which is where the story gets interesting. They wanted a manager to maximise the team's potential but Pep said I will get rid of Ronnie..Deco etc and rebuild. Enjoy the ride.

That is why your structure argument was rubbish. That is why your Mou and UCL arguments are rubbish.

No need for long Epistles .
For the six seasons before Mourinho came to Madrid, tell us the round in which they were eliminated from the Champions league that's all I asked you

sleekdot:
This generational talent did not score 20 goals a season before Pep

The evidence is there for everyone to see. Messi production before Pep and after Pep

Messi 06/07 - 17 goals in all competition
Messi 07/08 - 16 goals in all competition

Enter Pep Guardiola

Messi 08/09 - 38 goals in all compeition (More than doubled previous season)
Messi 09/10 - 47 goals in all competition
Messi 10/11 - 53 goals in all competition

You are spreading fallacy. Messi is a generational talent Be careful. Which other Messi has pep created?

kendrick93:
imagine...Messi wey I don hear since 2005 to be next maradona....
As at 2007 there were already calls that he was going to be the greatest player ever.... Messi was already amongst the best players In the world before anybody for this world even know they were calling Pep...
Hahhaaha....

Don't mind dayo. Messi was a generational talent right from his debut at Barca. He is spreading fallacy

kendrick93:
na so...that martinez- Bastian combo was so good but Pep destroyed that midfield before it even got started...he even stunted Alaba's growth by shifting him all over the pitch....
I remembered Alaba was the best LB in europe under Juup....
Alaba has still not hit those heights ever since

Now they want to claim the team had already peaked when guardiola rubbish style was hindering the team. Pep ruined Bayern

sleekdot:
Muller scored his highest number of goals under Pep Guardiola
Robben said he improved under Pep like he never did under any other coach(He played under Mourinho and Ancelotti)

Should we add those to pep achievement at Bayern?

Eruditor:
Stop changing mouth.

You was there when Pep won the league. You met Madrid who had not won in 2 seasons and still got bitch-slapped by Pep.

Mourinho league title was the first for Madrid in 4 seasons. That's the fact. He did not inherit a team that won the previous championship by 24fecking point like your fraud did at Bayern

Eruditor:
Stop changing mouth.

You was there when Pep won the league. You met Madrid who had not won in 2 seasons and still got bitch-slapped by Pep.

Mourinho league title was the first for Madrid in 4 seasons. That's the fact. He did not inherit a team that won the previous championship by 24fecking point like your fraud did.